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--Anittas 19:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Alexander for Admin

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Alexander_007 ,

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#Alexander_007 . I've nominated User:Alexander_007 as admin. Let's vote for him! -- Bonaparte talk & contribs 20:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Salut

Salut si bine ai venit! -- Bonaparte talk 12:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Fii atent ca asta e om periculos. --Anittas 12:38, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Cine Anittas? -- Bonaparte talk 12:54, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Io sau el? Anonimu 13:40, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Tu. lol! --Anittas 12:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Danke :) Bonaparte talk 12:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Illyria

Hai ma, intorcete pe Illyria. Spurcatii aia de draci au inceput sa ne frece tare, din nou.

• http://p083.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm10.showMessage?topicID=1277.topic
• http://p083.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm10.showMessage?topicID=1276.topic
• http://p083.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm10.showMessage?topicID=1275.topic

Si tot asa mai departe. Hai ca te las sa ma jignesti 7 zile, fara sa reactionez. Dankat s-a intors si el. --Anittas 12:30, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

hmmm... nu --Anonimu 15:39, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Suparare, suparare;

Niciodata suparare;

Daca ne mai suparam;

Luam valiza si plecam!

Hai ma, ca a venit si nebunul ala de Edlund si ne freaca... --Anittas 08:24, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

http://p083.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm10.showMessage?topicID=1279.topic Ah, acuma inteleg... --Anittas 10:45, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

te rog frumos.. io foloseam invective mai poetice, si oricum inca mai sunt mesaje d'ale mele pe'acolo si poti sa verifici ip'urile (apropo sti de ce am plecat si pana nu o sa se rezolve problema n'o sa revin in persona) --Anonimu 12:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Nu sunt sigur de ce ai plecat. Poate din cauza ungurilor. Daca il ating pe ungaro, o sa faca acelasi argument care ai facut si tu cand te-am atins. Cred ca deja iti este dor de forum. ;) --Anittas 12:59, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

no article about Sándor Petőfi in the Romanian Misplaced Pages

Hi, why did you insert a link to ro:Alexandru Petőfi? "Misplaced Pages nu are încă un articol referitor la Alexandru Petőfi." Adam78 16:05, 6 January 2006 (UTC) wait until tomorrow. i had a problem with the browser and the article wasn't created.

M-am uitat pe harta aia dar cred ca nu e tocmai 100% adevarata. De exemplu, la cetatea alba, nu sunt decat 1000 de romani. la babele, chishlitza si limanskoye sunt numai romani. la satul nou langa sarata sunt romani si acolo dar pe harta nu apare nimic. Am modificat si eu un pic harta ta pe baza datelor din recensamantul din 2001. zi-mi si mie ce crezi. Si poate i-mi arati si mie un site cu hartile astea din anul 1980. numai bine. Constantzeanu 19:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

imagini

L-am intrebat pe bogdan daca poate sa-mi faca niste imagini, dar vad ca nu mai raspunde. Stiu ca poti sa faci harti, dar nu stiu daca poti sa faci harti de batalie si alte chestii. Uite ce ai fi bine sa avem:

• Emblema (coat-of-arms) Moldovei;
• Batalia de la Codrii Cosminului;
• Batalia de la Razboieni;
• Batalia de la Baia

Poti sa faci unele din lucrurile alea? Emblema ar fi buna pentru articolul History of Moldavia, iar restul pentru articole despre batalii. Mersi. --Anittas 22:39, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Dlogosz

Am scris sursele pe Illyria. Poti sa le citesti aici. --Anittas 00:14, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Dobrogea

Am pus deja datele. A propos, mie personal cel puţin mi-au plăcut f. mult hărţile tale. Vroiam să ştiu, le-ai făcut după alte hărţi de pe internet sau pur şi simplu după datele de la recensăminte pentru fiecare localitate? Numai bine. Constantzeanu 02:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Tara Rumaneasca 1390

According to this map of yours, Bessarabia belonged to Wallachia. You also said:

Wallachia cca 1390, according to an internal document of 1387 and the Treaty with Poland of 1390

Have you read these documents? Also, you once said that Bessarabia was probably given by Mircea to Alexandru, yet, when Stephen ruled, Bessarabia was first under the rulership of Hungary and Wallachia. Can you explain these exchanges of land? Also on that map, I see "Omlas" being a enclave of Wallachia. How come? And how come the norther border of Bessarabia has a an almost straight line? --Candide, or Optimism 15:18, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

in the 1390 treaty with poland, mircea was called Woyvoda Transalpinus, Fogaras et Omlas dux, seurinii comes, terrarum Dobrotici despotus et Tristri dominus. Omlas, Fagaras and Severin were feuds given by the hungarian king to mircea. in the hrisov of 1387, he mentions along his possesions къ Татарскым странами (hope i got it right), translated by most romanian historians as părţile tătăreşti ("tatar parts"). probably this was reffering to territories in southern moldavia, bessarabia and, maybe, northern dobruja. iorga said tht he found a map of wallachia from 1780 that shown besarabia proper (today's bugeac) as part of wallachia. from what i know, hungary never ruled bessarabia after year 1000 (hungarian tribes probably lived in the region before migrating to pannonia). i think you're talking about the port of killia, which was indeed ruled for some time in the 15th century by hungary and wallachia. the border is almost a straight line because nobody knows how much of moldavia did mircea rule. the border on the map is based on Petre Dan's description in Hotarele românismului în date (Litera International, Chişinău, ISBN 973-675-278-X -- ISBN 9975-74-902-X) "Sud Cetatea Albă, Nord Cahul, Nord Tecuci, Sud Pasul Oituz" (south of Cetatea Alba, north of Cahul, north of Tecuci, south of Oituz mountain pass. Anonimu 16:57, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I meant Chilia. I thought that was a part of Bessarabia. Thanks for the info, but do you know why Mircea received those lands from Hungary, and how Chilia became a Hungarian-Wallachian possession? I think Genova also had the port - or at least the fortress - but I don't know how they got it. They also had another fortress along the Nistru. --Candide, or Optimism 17:19, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, mircea didn't receive them, one of the previous rulers of wallachia did. Amlas, Fagaras and Severin were given by Louis I of Hungary to Vladislav I of Wallachia in october 1366, after the second accepted the hungarian suzerainty. i don't know for sure how chilia became hungarian and wallachian. in 1435 it was still part of moldavia Anonimu 18:24, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I see. Well, I think that when it comes to Severin, it was not given, but returned to Wallachia. If you know of any books that cover this period of time in detail, pls let me know. I once had the history of Stefan cel Mare by Iorga, but was too young to read it. Now, I don't know where it is. --Candide, or Optimism 18:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Harta

Buna; ar fi bine sa avem niste harti care arata conflictele din 1476 intre Stefan si Meñli Giray; Stefan si Mehmed; Dracula si Laiota; iar Dracula si Stefan cotropind Tara Ro. Harta ar si reprezentata cu sageti care arata ofensiva si retragere. Regiunele incluse sunt Moldova, Transilvania, si Tara Ro. Daca ai chef sa le faci, sa-mi spui si am sa-ti prezint date, etc. --Candide, or Optimism 05:14, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

i don't know.. let me see some info.. but anyway, they won't be free... you'll have to do something for me... Anonimu 13:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

You want me be to argue your case in Illyria? --Candide, or Optimism 15:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

i won't come back there!(of course if i'm invited i'll give it a thougt, but i don't want you to do that.. if you do it, i won't make the maps anymore) Anonimu 19:06, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, what is your request? --Candide, or Optimism 19:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Let's see first what can i do with those maps, then we'll talk about it... Anonimu 19:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, but wait for me to gather the info for the places, etc. Btw, Iasi played a tie ;) I'll message you soon, after Barca versus Madrid... --Candide, or Optimism 19:52, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, here's what I had in mind.

Colours: Moldavians (red), Tatars (brown), Ottomans (green), Wallachians under Laiota (blue), Army of Dracula and Bathory (black).

Map 1, July 1476: Army of Stefan is assembled at Bîrlad with 30,000 peasants and 10,000 boyars and curteni. Meñli Giray crosses the Dniester, pillages Orhei, crosses the prut and pillages Stefanesti (now Botosani county). Stefan allows the peasants to follow Giray and the armies meet near a forest, at Siret. The Tatar army flees across the Dniester, but few escape. The two armies were equal in size (30,000 each), so make sure the numbers correspond with the size of the two armies. --Candide, or Optimism 14:45, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

that's not much info. I tried to make a map based only on them, but i can't guarantee it's realistic. (Anyway, this isn't the final version of the map, if you decide it could help you, i'll make it nattier - i.e. lower the font size in country names) Anonimu 16:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

That's all the info I have on this event, taken from Iorga's book about Stephen. The map looks good. The only thing you could add is the Moldavians pursuing the Tatars over the Dnister, but not too far away. --Candide, or Optimism 20:47, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, you should include Iasi, Chilia, and Cetatea Alba, because they're all involved in this conflict. I'll get back to you soon with the second scenario. --Candide, or Optimism 20:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello? --Candide, or Optimism 18:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

draw it yourselfAnonimu 18:27, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, you could've told me this from the beginning. It would've been easier for both of us. --Candide, or Optimism 18:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

offside

http://p083.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm10.showMessageRange?topicID=1575.topic&start=41&stop=57 --Candide, or Optimism 07:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Vlachs

What do you know about Vlachs of Serbia, Vlachs? PANON is deleting any relation to romanian language. --Andrei George 16:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Anonimu, where are you? --218.126.98.124 13:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Cand te intorci pe forum? Nu mai am cu cine sa ma cert. :( --Candide, or Optimism 13:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Cand n'o sa mai am ban pe user si pe IP, desigur. Anonimu 14:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Nu mai ai. Torna frate! --Candide, or Optimism 12:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Parada

I-ai zis-o bine lui Ronline! Ce zici şi de argumentul meu, chiar sub ăla al tău?Biruitorul 11:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Farul-Galati 0-1

Ati mancat bataie. :))) --Candide, or Optimism 17:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC) ma doare'n p...

Civility

If you continue with the anti-homosexual, anti-immigrant, offensive remarks I will be forced to take action. I would encourage you to read the guidelines on civility. Misplaced Pages is not the place for homophobia and racism. - FrancisTyers 13:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not anti-immigrant or racist. Just against homosexuality. Ain't free speech allowed here? It's not like I edit some article to impose my POV Anonimu 13:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I have to agree with Anonimu: he has the right to say that he is against homo-sexuality; and he has the right to say that he thinks it is wrong. He is also allowed to be anti-immigrant, as long as it's not racism. Americans are allowed to say that they don't want more Mexicans to pass their border, don't they? --Candide, or Optimism 14:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

This strikes me as racist: "si combaterea imigratiei asiatice si africane". You don't mention you want to stop immigration, you mention you want to stop immigration of asians and africans. As I said, please read the guidelines at WP:CIVIL. Calling groups of human beings "anti-umana, anti-naturala" is not civil. - FrancisTyers 15:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

And to clarify, to say that you are opposed to homosexuality is fine, to brand it "anti-human" is not. Please be more careful in your choice of words in future. - FrancisTyers 16:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I didn't even say i want to stop immigration. I mentioned only africans and asians because i thought no european or american so poor that he couldn't raise a child would come to Romania. Simply, my policy would apply more to these categories of immigrants. How should i call a mental condition that could affect the human species on the long term? Anonimu 18:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Dahn

Ar trebui sa vezi si articolul Transylvania.--222.109.87.130 07:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Note

You're aware that you broke the 3RR, right? —Khoikhoi 10:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

abakharev 11:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Vino la pagina de discutii Transnistria

În 17 septembrie va fi referendum în Transnistria legat de independenţa regiunii. Cu această ocazie probabil multă lume va căuta pe Misplaced Pages informaţii despre Transnistria. Am încercat să adaug în articol nişte informaţii legate de acest referendum, anume:

- faptul că mai multe organizaţii antiseparatiste au lansat un apel la boicotare, considerînd referendumul "farsă"

- faptul că din 46 de ţări membre ale Consiliului Europei, 45 sînt împotriva recunoaşterii referendumului, numai RUsia are altă părere

- faptul că datele Comisiei Electorale Centrale din Tiraspol au fost schimbate în mod ciudat, anume numărul total de alegători s-a micşorat cu 7% faţă de 2005, ceea ce ridică suspiciuni asupra unei încercări de creştere artificială a prezenţei la vot prin raportarea unui număr mai mic de alegători înregistraţi.

Totdeauna am dat lincurile care dovedesc cele scrise de mine, n-am născocit nimic din burtă.

Userul Willian Mauco, care pare fan Tiraspol, mereu mi-a şters adăugirile. (vezi istoria paginii)

Puteţi vedea la pagina de discuţii Transnistria ce argumente a adus. Anume: ăia care cer boicotarea referendumului din Transnistria sînt foşti KGB-işti, că aşa zice o organizaţie rusească de analiză (a dat un linc pentru asta). Întîi a spus că respectivii nici nu sînt din Transnistria, ci doar din Basarabia, dar i-am dovedit că unii dintre semnatarii apelului la boicot sînt transnistreni. Am fost împăciuitor, i-am zis că n-are decît să adauge părerea organizaţiei ruseşti că antiseparatiştii sînt foşti KGBişti, că n-are decît să-i considere pe cei care vor boicotarea referendumului drept băieţi răi, dar faptul în sine, că s-a cerut boicotarea referendumului, trebuie menţionat. Degeaba, mereu mi s-au şters adăugirile - pentru celelalte 2 fapte nici n-a adus argumente.

A mai fost o adăugire care a şters-o, despre arestarea a 4 persoane din Transnistria care sînt împotriva separatismului (între timp li s-a dat drumul). În cazul ăsta am renunţat eu să mai insist pentru includerea informaţiei în articol (deşi informaţia e incontestabilă), tocmai fiindcă n-am vrut să mă cert prea mult.

În perioada asta cînd agenţiile de ştiri vor menţiona referendumul de la Tiraspol, se va citi articolul Transnistria în Misplaced Pages poate mai mult decît într-un an întreg. De aia acum e nevoie să existe în articol informaţii despre contestarea corectitudinii referendumului. Nu cer să se menţioneze ca adevăr absolut faptul că referendumul e incorect, ci doar că există unii (OSCE, 45 din 46 ţări ale Consiliului Europei, unele organizaţii din zonă şi din Basarabia) care consideră asta. Vă cer de aceea sprijinul ca să interveniţi pe pagina de discuţii Transnistria pentru a susţine rămînerea informaţiei în pagină şi să repuneţi informaţia atunci cînd Mauco o şterge (eu nu pot să verific chiar 24 de ore din 24). Evitaţi atacurile suburbane, păstraţi ton civilizat. mulţumesc.

Who is William Mauco Here is an article about a Misplaced Pages celebrity, William Mauco, and his relations with the International Council for Democratic Institutions and State Sovereignty (ICDISS), an organisation "which seems to be a front organisation for a Kremlin-backed rogue statelet called Transdniestria" (quote from the article) http://0.bypass-filter.com/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL2Vkd2FyZGx1Y2FzLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbS8yMDA2LzA4L2dvdGNoYS0yLmh0bWw%3D

Edward Lucas wrote about Mauco: "The other lead is William Mauco. He has an extensive record of posting intelligent and fairly neutral entries on Misplaced Pages, not only about TD but about other unrecognised statelets. Crucially, these predate ICDISS's birthday of January 2006. And he also claims to have been at their conference in Mexico City in April of this year. I have written to him asking to get in touch, and had a friendly email in reply. I am planning to follow up this research in an article in European Voice at the end of August, so watch this space!"--MariusM 08:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Anonimu can help you mariusM.

Votează contra ştergerii articolului Heaven of Transnistria

Împreună cu EvilAlex (un tip din Tighina - Transnistria) am creat un articol despre propaganda separatistă a Tiraspolului Heaven of Transnistria. I s-a cerut ştergerea. Te rog ajută-ne să păstrăm articolul, votînd contra ştergerii. Destul s-a şters din articolul principal Transnistria, Misplaced Pages e plină de propagandă a Tiraspolului, să avem măcar un articol care explică această propagandă--MariusM 18:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

So do you guys still use the Ceauşescu textbooks? I have a friend who is a Peace Corps volunteer in a village an hour north of Bucharest and she said the general conception seems to be the place to learn Romanian history is not in Romania. Germany and France collaborated and made a common historical textbook for certain school classes, do you think Romania could ever collaborate on one with Hungary?

Image:Battlrasb.png

Would it be possible to change this image to make colors of the two sides more distinct to make the map more readable to colorblind people? Perhaps red and blue, or solid black and white with black outline. Hirudo 15:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I made these two versions. What should i use in the article (right/left one)? (i uploaded it with no licence to make sure it will be deleted). Anonimu 19:56, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

3RR

You are about to violate Misplaced Pages:3RR on Dobruja, refrain from further reverts or you might be blocked.   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)