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3RR at Party for Freedom

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At least I give an explanation for my reverts. Do you revert according to your moods now?

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National conservatism : Great Russia / Rodina

Hello,

You say to an anonymous user some days ago that Great Russia must not be included in National conservatism article because it's a fascist party, which is effectively true (to be more precise, a number of party's members have close ties with neo-fascist or even neo-nazi groups, particularly visible during street demonstrations). Nonetheless, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the corresponding article of Great Russia in Russian language here ru:Великая Россия (партия) mention in its infobox national conservatism (along with patriotism, russian nationalism, orthodox traditionalism) as an ideology of the party. So why not including this party in National conservatism article ? However, Rodina appears in this article while some observers labeled Rodina as neo-nazi, furthermore Dmitri Rogozin who is an important figure of Rodina was also the founder of Great Russia (which counts among its members some people that also belong to Rodina). --Martopa (talk) 10:15, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I do think that adding openly fascist type organizations such as Velikaya Rossiya and Jobbik, as I've explained here makes no sense, it taints moderate national conservative parties and furthermore, whitewashes the extremist character of such parties. Russian Misplaced Pages cannot always be relied on, e.g. it's impossible to remove the ridiculous notions there that United Russia is a liberal (!!!) conservative party. Velikaya Rossiya is widely seens as an ultranationalist, xenophobic and even fascist party by the pro-Western liberals: .Miacek (talk) 13:14, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

So, should we remove Rodina seeing that this party is also described as extremist/neo-nazi ? A few years earlier, Rodina was even banned by justice for incitement to racial hatred. Currently, Jobbik seems to be less radical than few years ago, it even formed electoral alliances in recent local elections with left-wing parties to defeat Fidesz's candidate, so it can't be comparable to Greek Golden Dawn or Italian New Force. On the other hand, Austrian FPÖ and French National Front appears in National conservatism article as they are "moderate". Nevertheless, in Wesrtern Europe, everybody (aside from supporters of National Front or FPÖ themselves who find "far-right" pejorative, it's the same thing for far-left parties, nobody wants to appear as extremist) considers these two parties as extremist, racist, far-right ; furthermore FPÖ was historically founded by former neo-nazis. --Martopa (talk) 17:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Agree on Rodina, disagree on FPÖ and FN. FPÖ was founded by former NSDAP members but it used to be semi-liberal for decades, FPD in Germany also had strong ex-NSDAP presence and for some time was considered the most right-wing among German mainstream parties, until it shifted towards social liberalism. The Verfassungsschutzbericht for Austria has to my knowledge never mentioned FPÖ, it does mention and monitor parties it considers far-right or far-left, and it's not just Verfassungsschutzbericht alone: it simply represents the scholarly consensus in Austria. With FN it is more difficult, it was founded as a far-right party and acted like that under the old Le Pen, but has shifted more to the center under its new leader.Miacek (talk) 08:38, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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Ukochany kraj

...a wikipedysta daje dwoje rąk. Teraz siegam po majteczki w kropeczki. Staszek Lem (talk) 02:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Dziękuję bardzo!Miacek (talk) 07:40, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Loveshy

Saw your edit and removal to Incel, thought you might find Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Love-shyness (2nd nomination) useful. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:45, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Oh dear. Even THIS has been deleted. I was pleasantly surprised that my article on the fringe phenomenon G0y was not nominated for deletion, however, English Misplaced Pages doesn't seem to be particularly tolerant on heterosexual variety. Oh well... Miacek (talk) 17:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

I didn't think loveshyness was an exclusively heterosexual concept. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:01, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

I've read some of Gilmartin and he identified loveshyness as an exclusively heterosexual phenomenon. He pointed out that gay courtship is fundamentally different from straight one in that even shy men there have a chance, such as getting courtship initiated by more extroverted dudes.Miacek (talk) 18:04, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Because women never initiate courtship with shy men? Actually, nevermind, this is going to end up going down a rabbit hole on a topic where we quite clearly disagree. If you disagree with the love-shyness deletion or think there are sufficient sources such that the article should be recreated, WP:DRV is the place to go. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:15, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

You clearly haven't even glanced into the book. I suggest that you do. As for DRV, indeed, the article should be undeleted given the sheer amount of coverage the concept has in scholarly sources .Miacek (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding all edits about, and all pages related to, (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

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This relates to your editing of Incel and its talk page. Sandstein 21:39, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't edit war, source my edits, explain my views in great detail at talk, why this warning?Miacek (talk) 21:40, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Among other issues, adding material to an article referenced to a screenshot hosted on a site titled "sluthate.com" is so serious a violation of policies including WP:V (as has been explained to you at Talk:Incel), that I strongly advise you to stop editing this topic area until you have a better practical understanding of our core policies. Sandstein 21:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I couldn't find this highly relevant post on any other website, also, this site is just another wiki (despite its controversial name). I've thoroughly enjoyed some of its articles there. Moreover, you're not uninvolved in this matter. Miacek (talk) 21:45, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikis (including Misplaced Pages itself) are categorically not reliable sources; see WP:SPS. I never claimed to be editorially uninvolved. Sandstein 21:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

@Miacek, re to this. Yes, I did check a couple of your edits and they happened to be completely unsourced. Was it a problem? If so, I do not care and will edit something else. Note that you did follow my edits on a number of pages, and I did not mind because you acted in a good faith to improve content. My very best wishes (talk) 16:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

I followed you to this to improve the content rather than to blindly revert, as we have similar interests (Russia, USSR) and I find many of your contributions very useful. However, it is not OK just to follow an editor to pick up a fight, it was night in Estonia already, I was planning to go to sleep and so I did not add sources to Prostitution in the United States hoping someone else would do so, also elementary facts like this (what about just googleing instead of reverting?) don't even need citations, wouldn't you agree?Miacek (talk) 16:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

All right. Actually, I was a little surprised by your comment. I agree though that the law in the US is not perfect. It should be made like in Sweden, i.e. to punish the "Johns". My very best wishes (talk) 03:41, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm surprised that anyone with your (and my) background has so unlibertarian views on such an issue. Why should only Johns suffer? Women in a free society have it so much easier to get one night stands anyway, it is kind of balancing when dudes can buy sex.Miacek (talk) 09:57, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, in my personal opinion, such "dude" is a rapist, not mentioning that what he does is disgusting. My very best wishes (talk) 13:34, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, people can have various opinions on what is "disgusting". Some say modern women engaging in the cock carousel are disgusting, others say miserable incels using escorts are disgusting. All depends on the respective viewpoint, I guess.Miacek (talk) 16:51, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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May 2018

A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Misplaced Pages, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. – Lionel 05:55, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

• Lionel, template:db-attack-notice expects you to include a link to the page. Do so in future. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:32, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
• Miacek, the "attack" was properly referenced and in any case, outside of countries like North Korea, politicians know that receiving severe criticism is part of the job. But your piece was too short to be viable so I have moved it to Draft:Petras Gražulis. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:32, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, I'll deal with it. thanks.Miacek (talk) 09:35, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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Conservative People's Party of Estonia‎

Hi, about your additions to this article, i have some questions: "Claims have been made that the left-wing populist Estonian Center Party has been quietly supporting EKRE as a "Trojan horse" to weaken other Estonian right-wing parties, auch as offering them surprisingly much media coverege in the Center Party-controlled Tallinn Television". — I can't find that sentence in that article. And whose claims are they? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, will add specific sources for this soon. It's common knowledge in Estonia that EKRE was used as a Trojan Horse by the Estonian Center Party to weaken normal Estonian right.Miacek (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm a person living in Estonia and I have not heard it - so it's not common knowledge. And please do read Misplaced Pages's rules: Misplaced Pages:Verifiability. Thank you. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:45, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

References

Always put references after any punctuation, not before. Help:Referencing for beginners#Inserting a reference. As in here: Madisson diff --Klõps (talk) 19:27, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Agreed.Miacek (talk) 19:52, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

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1. EKRE lääneuroopalik vorm ja idaeuroopalik süda