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Burgmann College

I don't get it. You protected the Burgmann College article from vandalism, but you protected the version that contains the uncited, unfounded, non-NPOV text. The other complainant says that I should enter a process of editing each line instead of just deleting the whole thing. Why would I bother? Why must I be the one to clean up this rubbish when the original author cannot be bothered to follow even the most basic Misplaced Pages polices of attribution and NPOV authorship? There is nothing in this body of text that suggests that it is in any way notable, nor suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia - if you view any of the other ANU college pages, you'll see none of them have this kind of speculative hearsay. It speculates on what people may or may not have been doing and even *thinking*, it makes wild assertions with no backup at all. It even uses weasel words! Finally, if you read the contribution history of the authors, you'll note that *this is the only contribution they've made to Misplaced Pages*. Why would they, in any way, be interested in carefully going through the text to make sure it subscribes to Misplaced Pages standards? They are clearly only interested in this single incident, and are not interested in spreading knowledge. And after all this, you say you favour a policy of 'deletion' when 'every man and his dog can see it will be deleted anyway'. I just don't get it. -TarenCapel 00:03, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Can I suggest that you delete the sections from the "Leadership Struggle 2005" to the 2007 tutor "controversy", and then return to protecting the page? These sections offer nothing to the relevant historical information about Burgmann College, and do nothing but discredit it as an academic residence. However, as TarenCapel rightly states, most of the authors for the Burgmann College page have no desire to obey by Misplaced Pages rules or conventions, and upon removal the sections will most likely be reinserted by another disgruntled resident (for after all, they are the only people who view the page in the first place). The page must be placed under protection to avoid this kind of childish behaviour, but it would be good if the offending areas could be removed completely from the page. - User:LordVader06 15:22, 28 October 2006

I doubt we will see any movement on this issue from this admin. Viewing some of the other entries on this page, it seems as though this admin frequently protects pages with the contested text in place. -TarenCapel 06:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Illegal immigration

As per policy, when locking down an article as a result of edit warring, the article is reverted to the last version before the edit war started. The edit war starts with the first reversion. The first reversion was Jossi's. You locked the article at the wrong location. -Psychohistorian 17:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

That's funny :)

Its also irrelevant. What is relevant is that sysops abide by policy. -Psychohistorian 18:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

This isn't worth the time for either one of us. Please accept my apologies for snapping at you. I hope we can get this article worked out as expeditiosuly as possible. -Psychohistorian 18:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Annan Plan for Cyprus

Thanks for protection. But something is wrong.I required protection, but page protected at last vandalised version.
My version, as a difference, include some tags about; "verification/sources needed", "neutrality is disputable" and "vikify needed".
protected in this position means no need vikify, all info is correct and approved/sourced and neutral.
Please a second look to article. Regards. Mustafa Akalp 18:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

You have to explain on the talkpage why you want the tag and what you are disputing. You can't just slap a tag on on a whim... You have never edited the talkpage.--Tekleni 18:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Instruction creep

Regarding this revert at WP:CSD, I am worried that there is a creeping tendency for people to label things as intruction creep which are not instruction creep (anti-instruction creep creep?). Good instructions are clear and unambiguous. They can get out of control if people add new instructions and long, rambling explanations. Equally, instructions can be nearly useless if they do not have explanations, or link to explanations. The text you reverted to says:

"Note that administrators should always verify the legitimacy of a speedy deletion candidate before taking action. It is the administrator's responsibility to make sure that speedy deletion tags are accurate."

This begs the question - how does an administrator verify the legitimacy of a speedy deletion? Remember that there will be new admins coming to this page, some of whom may, despite not being very familiar with some of the processes, dive straight in. As an example, take Misplaced Pages:Deletion_process where all the processes except speedy deletion, say "determine whether consensus is to keep or delete". The corresponding statement for speedy deletion should be "use judgement to determine whether the page is a suitable candidate for speedy deletion". This is so obviously missing, that I am just going to add it now. This is not instruction creep, but is merely making clear what before was not clear. Carcharoth 11:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Friday the 13th

Thanks for the speedy protection! ---J.S (t|c) 22:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

For a few hours it didn't even occur to me why the page was so bloody active... then I heard a local talk show host actualy quote something almost exactly from the article then it all clicked. lol wow I'm smart. ---J.S (t|c) 22:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

You saved me the trouble of going to WP:AIV. :-) -- Jim Douglas _(contribs) 17:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

User:84.254.189.90

I've got my eye on this clown too. Cnwb 11:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Also keep an eye on User:Rex steele, who I suspect is the same user. Cnwb 12:14, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Hospital in Indonesia

Why do you delete this translation? http://id.wikipedia.org/Daftar_rumah_sakit_di_Indonesia— Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.210.145.6 (talk • contribs)

(Possible dynamic IP so leaving a reply here as well) I didn't think we really needed a list of every non-notable hospital in Indonesia. -- Steel 12:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

did not need the list. Why the following page still exist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_hospitals_in_Indonesia

Why all the following pages still exist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_hospitals http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_hospitals_in_Asia

Did not need information about Indonesian Hospital. Why this page still exist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/Panti_Rapih_Hospital

Thanks

For reverting vandalism to my user page. I don't know how that one slipped through. MER-C 13:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Same here. :) --Andeh 15:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Request

Hey, would you be able to move Samandağ to Seleucia Pieria? (I'm pretty sure this would be non-controversial) Once you've done that, I'll create a new article from the redirect of Samandağ. Thanks. —Khoikhoi 20:09, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again! —Khoikhoi 20:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Question on deletions

I just wondered why you saw fit to remove the External links I'd edited in, for example on James MacPherson, where the linked article was arguably more in depth than the Misplaced Pages entry itself? I gather you are a "deletionist". But there is such a thing as being too zealous in one's task... ;)

Alexander G. Rubio alexander.rubio@gmail.com

Thanks!

Thanks! Now I understand this whole autoblock thing. Nishkid64 20:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

MGS3

I noticed it had been promoted, so I didn't bother going through it. I forgot to ask: would you like me to go through it anyway? ^_^ — Deckiller 22:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

User:203.217.83.1

Hi Steel, I think its very obvious that IP was indeed User:Tequendamia. Thanks for blocking this IP. Best, Gwernol 14:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Hospital rubbish

Just dropping you a quick note to say that I've prodded List of hospitals in Egypt and merged the List of hospitals in Liechtenstein in with Liechtenstein. Moreschi 16:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Hospital in Egypt - rubbish. Why this page still exist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/New_Kasr_El_Aini_Hospital

Indian Caste System

Considering the users who edit warred were blocked, is it necessary to have the article protected? BhaiSaab 16:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I haven't got a response from the other person you referred me to. Can the article please be unlocked? I wish to contribute. Thanks. BhaiSaab 11:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. BhaiSaab 12:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

OK...Hkelkar has done four seperate reverts on the article after you've unlocked it unfortunately. 3 reverts(, , ) are identical partial reverts, and the other earliest revert undid Tequendamia's edit. All this despite him being held to 1RR on the article . BhaiSaab 16:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Halloween

Could you please delete the 'blah blah blah' vandalism above the first picture in the halloween article. im having trouble doing so. thanks.

Edits

im so sorry for the lack of edits.im searching for edits.but i created a article I am Amrykid ,Elite wikistudent and I approve this message.

Lost further reading

You seem to have protected the page at the point where User:MatthewFenton started the bad faith edits. Could you put the page back to the point where it was first up for afd please? --217.65.158.91 12:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale

Regarding your sprotecting it, I'm not sure if it stuck as new users seem to be vandalizing it. Could you please take a look?

This diff by a new user: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Jarnail_Singh_Bhindranwale&diff=82205095&oldid=81520584

The user is new:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Gstar4

Thanks.Hkelkar 20:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

So he's been waiting a week I see.Hkelkar 20:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Doogle

Well done! How on earth did you manage to assess Doogle for notability in two minutes flat? Here's a friendly suggestion - don't just immediately delete things - have a quick word with the author first, especially if he's an established editor. I'm going to re-instate the article. Thanks. Arcturus 23:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply

I tried that 2 days ago, but he doesn't want to let it go of the issue. I've tried darn near every technique to avoid him, but his revert warring with me and constant messaging on my talk page keeps me from letting it go. — Moe 20:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I tried that, but I keep getting the new messages template every 5 minutes. It's either I don't respond and he continues on or I respond. — Moe 21:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Gladly, I would have days ago, and I tried to ask him to stop, but ask you can see he continued. Happily, I won't respond to him at all, like I intended to. (Note: I might find a typo in my editing some times, and I go back to correct this, please don't mistake this as responding to him :p). — Moe 21:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Of course he wants it gone. Would you want to continue to participate in a discussion of how you spread false information about someone? In fact, Moe took a quote of mine and altered it to make it seem like I am biased.

Congratulations, you've figured out my plan. I didn't think anyone would realize that because I don't think Danny Phantom characters deserve an article, I want to delete every television show character article. A Link to the Past (talk) 04:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Making it seem like that is all I have said.

Congratulations, you've figured out my plan. I didn't think anyone would realize that because I don't think Danny Phantom characters deserve an article, I want to delete every television show character article. Despite it making no sense, being completely illogical and it being completely stupid to think that way, you somehow interpret it that way. Sarcasm aside,

When in fact, I made it blatantly obvious that what he quoted was sarcasm - going as far as saying "sarcasm aside". Another show of how Moe is a liar. The day I let someone get away with spreading false information about me is the day I'm blocked from editing Misplaced Pages forever and ever. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Userpage

hi steel,i just wanted to know why you deleted my userpage? if you want me off wikipedia then just tell me then block me. I am Amrykid ,Elite wikistudent and I approve this message.

Unprotect List of Arab scientists and scholars

Hi steel,

You protected the page 10 days ago and forgot to unprotect it. Thank you Jidan 22:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! :-) Jidan 01:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

On the subject of page un-protection, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to bring it up here or just wait until List of characters in Golden Sun gets unprotected, but I think people are ready to fix up the page that had that edit warring going on with the Japanese names. You can see the discussion on its talk page. You can unprotect it anytime, I think. Thanks. Erik Jensen 21:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Template:Test

The "it" is wholly unnecessary. It basically reminds people that we're referring to the subject of the sentence (the test), which was already established three words earlier. We can lose that comma as well. -- Steel 20:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

With the comma in place, the sentence is grammatically incorrect without the "it." At least, this is true in American English. It's been suggested that such sentence structure is considered correct in British English (which I assume you speak), but I've encountered mixed opinions among people from the UK. (Some believed that this was acceptable, but others disagreed.) I haven't seen anyone claim that the sentence is grammatically incorrect with the "it."

If the comma were to be removed, the "it" would be rendered extraneous, but this would harm the sentence's flow. The comma breaks it up and aids in comprehension. —David Levy 23:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

411mania

I would like to request either an unprotection or semiprotection as per Talk:411mania#"Notability" and "Importance" claims in which I entered into a dialogue with JB196, although I did not wish to validate him, and after refuting his claims he has left us with:

Glazed is my favorite type of donut.64.12.117.6 04:55, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thus we are left with nothing to discuss. I also feel that the full protection was unwarranted considering that JB196 is a banned user thus making all of his arguments null and void. –– Lid 05:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

AfD

Replied on mytalk.--Hamedog_Talk| 13:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

MGS3

Why can we avoid details like "this"? All i am doing is expanding the article with useful and notable info. maybe you can explain what you mean by the 'Old Article'? DARReN 17:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

sorry i only just got your message. but surely the fact tht Sokolov gets killed is mentionable DARReN 18:16, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: 142.32.208.234

Works for me. I appreciate the note, thank you. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

A very Californian RfA thanks from Luna Santin

Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which succeeded with a final tally of (97/4/4)! I've never been able to accept compliments gracefully, and the heavy support from this outstanding community left me at a complete loss for words -- so, a very belated thank you for all of your kind words. I have done and will continue to do the utmost to serve the community in this new capacity, wherever it may take me, and to set an example others might wish to follow in. With a little luck and a lot of advice, this may be enough. Maybe someday the enwiki admins of the future will look back and say, "Yeah, that guy was an admin." Hopefully then they don't start talking about the explosive ArbComm case I got tied into and oh what a drama that was, but we'll see, won't we? Surely some of you have seen me in action by now; with that in mind, I openly invite and welcome any feedback here or here -- help me become the best editor and sysop I can be. Again, thank you. –Luna Santin

Thanks for your trust. I'll look forward to seeing you on the patrol. :) Luna Santin 19:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

RE:Userpage

ok ill contribute the wikipedia but why is my page protected.And i need help on the article i created.Most of the time when i do contribute to that article it gets deleted.i even had to upload the casino image to wikipedia.but it got delete from the article.who knows if it got deleted from wikipedia.so anyway i need help on that article.I am Amrykid ,Elite wikistudent and I approve this message.

Wikiprojects

im thinking joining this wikiproject.I am Amrykid ,Elite wikistudent and I approve this message.

Capped edit summaries

Sorry, in a bit of a panic here. I'm freaking out; I've left the image on 30+ user talk pages, and each one of them was an unintended copywrite violation. I'll fix my edit summary from here on out. - Kribbeh 22:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Bachmann Thomas and Friends - RFPP Declined on 3rd request.

Dear Steel359, I recently placed this page up for RFPP due to persistent IP vandalism and problems we were experiencing with continual reverts by myself and Discospinster. At the time, I had not noticed that the IP editor concerned was in breach of WP:3RR and therefore I referred it when I realised over to the 3RR noticeboard. The article has now been Sprotected because of the 3RR violations. I thought I should notify you just so that you know that I haven't been sneaky or anything, it was a genuine mistake which I re-referred when I discovered the problem. At the time I sent it to WP:RFPP I had no idea this was the case. Thank you for your attention to this issue. Thor Malmjursson 11:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC) Thor's pet yack

Unprotect

well then i won't add stuff to my userpage that are not wikipedia related,but can you please unprotect my userpage.ill add my userboxes to my userbox page.I am Amrykid ,Elite wikistudent and I approve this message.

Thanks!

Thanks for blocking AlphabetSoup! Addhoc 12:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Redirects

Your redirect didn't work because wikipedia is case sensitive. The redirect code needs to be all capitals. There also has to be a space between the redirect code and the target. You had written #Redirect], while it should have been #REDIRECT ]. Aecis 15:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Your sandbox redirects to Misplaced Pages, but your edit to Dave Bulldog showed up as "1. redirectThe Big Issue", which is why I edited it. Aecis 15:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Heh.

This amused me. -Hit bull, win steak 15:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Elephant Larry

I'd like to make a case for the undeletion of the Elephant Larry entry, which was deleted on the grounds that it did not meet notability requirements.

Elephant Larry is currently part of "The Great Sketch Experiment" run by jibjab.com and directed by John Landis. Landis as well as Gregg and Evan Spiridellis of jibjab.com were on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno to promote this contest on 10/20/06.

Elephant Larry has had a review published in the New York Times as well as Time Out New York, The Onion, the Charleston City Paper, and was one of Backstage's Top 10 Comedy Best Bets of 2004.

These, I believe, are the main facts that evidence notabiliy. I hope this is sufficient.

Edited five minutes later: Thank you!

Signed, callyook

Please Reconsider My Links

I do not understand why my links were deleted. I understand your policy of swift removal of spam. However, I feel this is a case where swift removal led to an unnecessary deletion. Please reconsider my links, especially the Katrina image. I do not see how you could consider it "inappropriate." It characterizes damage inflicted upon New Orleans on a very grand scale. Seotommy 20:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I need your help

There is a spammer on the 83.26.xx.xx netblock hitting articles related to peer-to-peer protocols and software. Example here. He completely ignores warnings and reverts, dozens of which I've issued or performed in the past two days. I hereby request a range block of the 83.26.xx.xx subnet for however long you see fit. This vandal is highly unrepentant, incorrigible, and deliberately and willfully ignores all warnings and reverts, even ones by Admins. I have been forced to contravene 3RR on several articles, and on more than one occasion severely, in order to handle this threat and defend the integrity of the articles. I need help. I can't deal with this spammer alone. Thank you. E. Sn0 =31337= 21:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For fighting alongside me and delivering a stunning Coup de Grace to the Enemy in my battle against spammers hitting Peer-to-Peer related articles! Bravo! E. Sn0 =31337= 23:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Bitcomet is now under attack. Leuk He has started fighting on the article emule, and the spammer has now taken to simply registering a throwaway account {User:Rozpusta, which apparently means 'debauchery' or 'immorality', lending credence to the theory he knows he's wrong) for the singular purpose of continuing his spam attack. E. Sn0 =31337= 16:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Famous Paintings

"Famous Paintings" was one of my favourite wiki pages that provided an almost exhaustive list of the most popular paintings through the ages under good categories. But ZAP!! All of a sudden on Oct 21, I find the page deleted. That page was surely an interseting read and was a springboard from which one could jump to the various other painting topics. I really found the page very useful. Could I have the page back please?

Tamizhmarai R (User:203.129.195.149)

That page was deleted because it was a redirect to List of artworks which was deleted per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of artworks. -- Steel 11:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Favor

Hey, sorry to bother you, but Empires is now in an FAC, and AnonEMouse wanted me to add the number of units sold. I looked through every featured article for where they found there unit numbers, and I still couldn't find empires on the website that had the information. Do you have any ideas? You've done two FAs, so I thought you might know some websites I haven't looked yet. Thanks. Any help would be appreciated.--Clyde Miller 03:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I just realized that that might have come off like I want you to look up the stuff for me. There really isn't a way to say this without sounding awkward, but I just wanted to know if you could tell me about some websites the average video game editor wouldn't have known about. --Clyde Miller 03:47, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I looked around and, just as you and I both expected, there was nothing. Oh well, I'll tell mouse about it (it would really help if SSSI's website was still operating). On the same token, he thinks there is an article out there that compares AoE with Empires. I kinda laugh thinking about it. If this game sold so few units that it didn't even make the charts, who is going to do a comparison article on it?--Clyde Miller 13:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Amkid

I figured it must be something close to that, just from his manner of writing.

There seem to be a lot of kids aged 11-13 registering lately. I wonder why it is...

Anyway, thanks for the extra info. :) Have a good day! Srose (talk) 13:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

FFS...

So because I decided that bad information is bad for Misplaced Pages, the article gets protected?

Winning logic! I guess I should go edit Bomberman Quest to say that it sold a billion copies; and since you prefer false information, you'd surely support it. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Please read Misplaced Pages:Protection policy particularly the line "Admins must not protect pages they are actively engaged in editing".Geni 22:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Protecting pages you are involved in

Please review Misplaced Pages:Protection policy. Under no circumstances should administrators protect pages they are actively involved in a dispute in, except in the case of simple vandalism. I have unprotected Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater for this reason. Cowman109 22:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

I have blocked you for three hours for edit warring in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. The issues of the links and the style of spellings on the article should be discussed on the talk page of the article and not sorted out through edit warring. It would still be helpful for you to explain your protection of the article as well, as that is a very serious matter. Thank you. Cowman109 00:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Smile

Ginkgo100 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing! 03:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)