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Seems to be claiming notability as a musician but sources only discuss his arrest and I don't think they're sufficient per WP:NOTNEWS. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NMUSIC and WP:ANYBIO. The editor whose username is Z0 14:43, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

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It passed the general notability guideline originally, that's why the page got approved in the first place. The subject is being a target of harassment by people who want to have a speedy deletion I have ome to figure out, somebody took the time to edit the page and make it look like slanderous and derogatory things were being said on it. You can check the edit history. I can provide at least 10-15 references that provide at least the stoppage of the speedy deletion process. This subject, having made music for and with Layzie Bone, Sean Price, Infamous Mobb, Termanology, Reks, and Buckwild aall of whom have wikipedia pages themselves and provided references to that in the very least provide somewhat proof of notability even if this person is not "famous" per se,not evveryone on wikipedia is a famous a list or b list celebrity. Just the fact that the subject and the page is under attack by trolls sent by celebrities goes to show the notability of this subject. That along with th enumerous newspaper references and published work at the very least rule out a speedy deletion. Chg1990 (talk) 02:07, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

I went on and checked the Serious Truth wikipedia page, and an unknown person who I am presuming is Z0 made edits on the bottom portion including false claims and accusations. Like was listed in the references, not only are there legitimate references to arrests as well as front page news articles from the eagle tribune to the New York Times but also reciepts from publishing companies publishing music and other published music with notable artists that also have legitimate wikipedia pages. This article was APPROVED and then someone went in and edited it afterwards with slanderous content and that's when it got put up for deletion. You can go check the edit history, anyone who edited the page who wasnt CHG 1990 was the one guilty of doing this Chg1990 (talk) 01:55, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

also have published work proving to have worked with lots of notable artists as well. I will provide any reference needed. It got approved from the references I had in the first place, it only got nominated to be deleted once one of the hundreds of people targeting the subject for harassment by Talib Kweli edited the page. You guys can go check the edit history. I spent a month working on this page for a friend who i thought deserved the page and he is being targeted for harassment by celebrities to the point where they are going and editing his wikipedia page that I made for him and trying to get it deleted. That alone in itself should be a reference. Chg1990 (talk) 02:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

The article was already approved, there are multiple major news outlets for references as well as published work with major artists linked to their pages as well. What is wrong with the article? It passed all the guidelines, that's why it got approved in the first place. Now, after a day, someone tries to take it down? Chg1990 (talk) 00:54, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

There is a reference from the NEW YORK TIMES, multiple from the Eagle Tribune (both Gloucester Daily times AND the Salem News), from an Ohio News outlet on the Talib Kweli feud with pictures as well... The eagle tribune references, does it not say Christian Godinho in all of them and what was listed in the article was just that? Same with the other articles. We just waited a month and it got approved and now after it gets approved people want to consult about taking it down? The references are all legitimate. I see pages on here that have been up for YEARS with 2 or 3 references on them, of a discog and a magazine or website article or two and here we are with almost 20 references, 5 or 6 of them major news outlets with names and pictures and it gets nominated for deletion the FIRST day? What kind of circus is being run here? Chg1990 (talk) 01:03, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

The infamous mobb wikipedia page has been up for years with 2 references... one a discog website and another one a magazine article, from a small publisher https://en.wikipedia.org/Infamous_Mobb .... you mean to tell me that is more legitimate than 3 or 4 eagle tribune articles, a New York Times article, the talib kweli reference (that Ohio News Outlet scumbagged news and entertainment is owned by the Company: National Innovators Group LLC.), and also lots of published music from actual publishing companies as references as well??? So all i need to do for that page is replace all of there more than adequate and legitimate references with one article from a hiphop website like the infamous mobb page and that's more legitimate for you guys? I dont understand, something is going on here and I want to know what it is... when a page I created gets approved and then suspiciously someone reports it, when I have more than enough references for the page. What more can you possibly want for references, can somebody please clue me in? Chg1990 (talk) 01:08, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

If something is not written from a neutral point of view, let me know... I will change it. I'll change any small things that need ot be changed, but I don't see why it has to be nominated for deletion the first day it's up!!! That's bogus. It even passes the golden rule of wikipedia submissions and that's why it got approved in the first place. There are multiple newspaper articles talking about the subject not from his point of view or in his favor, and the talib kweli one mentions him as not the main subject too. The person who approved the submission followed the guidelines as did I when I submitted the article. What are your grounds for such a claim that this wikipedia should be deleted??? Can anyone let me know? The editor whose username is [[User_talk:Z0|Z0 Chg1990 (talk) 01:15, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

If you guys need actual hard copy proof of the new york times article, that the subject Christian Godinho was a student involved in the ivy ridge riots I can produce a hard copy of the transcript showing the subject was at the school and took part in the ivy ridge riot. There is nothing illegitimate about any of these references used, and even if there were for one or two... I could find you a couple handfuls of pages with 2 or 3 references that have been around forever. Shave off the excess of the Christian Godinho/ Serious Truth page and you still have double or triple that. I demand an answer as to why this is happening albeit so soon after it got approved. Chg1990 (talk) 01:20, 5 July 2018 (UTC) [[User_talk:Z0|Z0 Chg1990 (talk) (talk)

I know it isn't the references. If an article + 3 or 4 is enough to ruin someones life in the real world and change the way people look at them all across the state and region of the country, it's enough for a wikipedia article!! http://www.gloucestertimes.com/news/local_news/police-fire-peacocks-get-around-in-essex/article <---- halfway down the page under manchester, Saturday July 8th 9:40 a.m.: Christian Godinho, 26, of 141 Prospect St. in Gloucester, faces a charge of possession of a Class A substance, heroin, after the car in which he was riding was pulled over for allegedly speeding on School Street. Police said Godinho was sitting with an open box cutter on his lap, and that he and the driver could be seen passing something between them. Officers found a spoon and a small bag of what is believed to be heroin on his seat.

http://www.gloucestertimes.com/news/local_news/teen-charged-with-arson-in-cleveland-st-house-siege/article_96f080eb-f1a9-57d6-b362-11a2258c27e9.html <front page news article

Chg1990 (talk) 01:51, 5 July 2018 (UTC) Chg1990 (talk) 02:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Keep I passed this for a reason. It establishes notability with several good secondary references. This article is not a stub typical non notable BLP. It contains hard information that is referenced. AmericanAir88 (talk) 13:34, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

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