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	Please self-revert. If you do not, I will open an ANI and you may be blocked from editing. Thanks. <small>'''<span style="color:Olive">Waleswatcher</span>''' ]</small> 13:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC)		Please self-revert. If you do not, I will open an ANI and you may be blocked from editing. Thanks. <small>'''<span style="color:Olive">Waleswatcher</span>''' ]</small> 13:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
			*{{ping\|Waleswatcher}} Did you really, seriously, expect me to feel intimidated by your post? A discussion at ] will put as much focus on you, and your ] on multiple gun politics-related articles, as on my revert of your "I don't agree"-edit (scrutinizing the behaviour also of whoever files a report is standard procedure at ANI...). Putting you in at least as great a risk of getting blocked as me... - '''Tom''' \| ] ] 13:20, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

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THIS USER IS ACTIVE ONLY NOW AND THEN ON WIKIPEDIA, SO REPLIES TO POSTS HERE MIGHT TAKE SEVERAL DAYS, AND EVEN WEEKS.
I have lost faith in this project and don't enjoy being here anymore, so you won't see much of me here, for the foreseeable future at least...

Please

Did you even look at the change? I moved the coordinates from someone's random house to the roundabout near the heart of the city. Also my change brought the coords very close to Google Maps coords, which they also chose based on centering reasons. Your excessive reaction is puzzling in the extreme and suggests WP:Ownership issues on your part. Abductive (reasoning) 13:30, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

@Abductive: It's up to you to explain what you're doing in an edit summary (that's what edit summaries are for...), not up to whoever patrols edits to check on Google Maps whenever someone makes seemingly random changes to map co-ordinates, especially when, as in this case, you first change to one set of co-ordinates, and then, three minutes later, to another set of co-ordinates. Which is why I wrote "unsourced and unexplained changes" in my message to you... - Tom | Thomas.W 13:47, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Artsakh (History)

Hello there. I'd like to respectfully challenge your accusation that I copied without attribution, because I literally spent hours writing the text myself. Two or three small passages were indeed copied from other articles found on Misplaced Pages, but I've reworded most of them and have included their references, and absolutely nothing was copied from external sources. If you think I should cite more references, please mark the passages that you believe require it (I didn't have time to add the references I mean to add, but I will when I get a chance). Also, you've reverted other edits that were completely unrelated (like the color of the map legend that was in its own completely unrelated edit). Kentronhayastan (talk) 14:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Please come back, Misplaced Pages needs you!

I can understand why you've lost faith in this project. I've been editing less than a month and lost faith on day 2. That being said, I have seen some remarkable contributions from you in this short time. I've witnessed you standing up to malicious editors who are acting as gatekeepers on particular Wiki pages. Without people such as yourself standing up to bullies, new editors like me might leave far more abruptly than you have yourself. Please reconsider! Thank you for your contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.61.187.112 (talk) 21:11, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Assault rifle

In a recent edit, you mentioned that newly-added content was "undiscussed." I'm curious why you would mention this in an edit summary, as there is no requirement to discuss content before adding it to an article. –dlthewave ☎ 23:59, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Looks like a garbage edit and it contained a lot of badly written material other than the wound characteristics. —DIYeditor (talk) 00:27, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Contentious edits on a very contentious (because of US gun politics) article such as Assault rifle should be discussed before being made. The edit added WP:UNDUE material (the wound characteristics are no different for assault rifles than for any other small-caliber high velocity rifles, so why single out assault rifles?), and was made by an editor who had already been reverted multiple times for making other contentious edits on the article. - Tom | Thomas.W 07:31, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Talk:International Mini Meeting

Someone requested the redirect be created at WP:AFC/R, which I accepted using a script. Apparently, you beat me to creating it, but the script went ahead and tagged the talk page anyway. Hopefully, there are no hard feelings. —Compassionate727 01:06, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Nothing interesting to see here
What's with the edit summary "I haven't checked your edits on other articles, but I'll take your word for that kind of edit being routine for you. Which doesn't bode well, because one of the things that I have learnt during my 12 years here is that people who make that kind of edit, on articles that are under discretionary sanctions to boot, and continue doing the edits even long after other editors have disagreed with them, usually find themselves blocked after a while" . This sounds like an attempt to right great wrongs while harassing another user. --K.e.coffman (talk) 18:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC) @K.e.coffman: I suggest you check Farcaster's recent edits on gun articles (Assault rifle and Assault weapon), and read the entire discussion on their talk page, including the edit that my post was a reply to, instead of coming here. They may be a valuable law-abiding editor in other areas, but their recent edits on gun articles, an area that is under discretionary sanctions, have been ignorant POV-pushing (full of factual errors, deliberate omissions etc etc), and edit-warring. - Tom \| Thomas.W 18:55, 27 May 2018 (UTC) @K.e.coffman:, I agree Tom. K.e.coffman, please stop assuming that people who don't agree with your views on firearms (which are as far to the other side of center as you might assume mine to be). Springee (talk) 19:11, 27 May 2018 (UTC) @Springee: The above ("...please stop assuming...") does not seem to be a complete sentence. What were you trying to say? K.e.coffman (talk) 19:16, 27 May 2018 (UTC) @K.e.coffman: If you want to play games do it somewhere else, not on my talk page. - Tom \| Thomas.W 19:19, 27 May 2018 (UTC) Apologies to Tom for finishing my reply here. Sorry, it was. I got pulled away for a moment. Anyway, please don't assume that editors who are opposed to many of these firearms inclusions are somehow not following the rules etc. You accused me of advocacy on another firearms article. Keep in mind that I see you advocating etc just in the other direction. We simply disagree with what is in scope for these articles and some people, reasonably, don't want every firearms article to turn into some type of anti-gun article. We have articles for those topics. I'm sure you feel you are acting in good faith. So do I and a number of other editors. Springee (talk) 19:22, 27 May 2018 (UTC) @Tom: Sure, this will be my last post here. I'd still like to point out that (1) there's no need to copy your entire message into an edit summary; and (2) "ignorant POV-pushing" can be perceived as a personal attack. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Nothing interesting to see here

What's with the edit summary

"I haven't checked your edits on other articles, but I'll take your word for that kind of edit being routine for you. Which doesn't bode well, because one of the things that I have learnt during my 12 years here is that people who make that kind of edit, on articles that are under discretionary sanctions to boot, and continue doing the edits even long after other editors have disagreed with them, usually find themselves blocked after a while" .

This sounds like an attempt to right great wrongs while harassing another user. --K.e.coffman (talk) 18:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@K.e.coffman: I suggest you check Farcaster's recent edits on gun articles (Assault rifle and Assault weapon), and read the entire discussion on their talk page, including the edit that my post was a reply to, instead of coming here. They may be a valuable law-abiding editor in other areas, but their recent edits on gun articles, an area that is under discretionary sanctions, have been ignorant POV-pushing (full of factual errors, deliberate omissions etc etc), and edit-warring. - Tom | Thomas.W 18:55, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@K.e.coffman:, I agree Tom. K.e.coffman, please stop assuming that people who don't agree with your views on firearms (which are as far to the other side of center as you might assume mine to be). Springee (talk) 19:11, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@Springee: The above ("...please stop assuming...") does not seem to be a complete sentence. What were you trying to say? K.e.coffman (talk) 19:16, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@K.e.coffman: If you want to play games do it somewhere else, not on my talk page. - Tom | Thomas.W 19:19, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Apologies to Tom for finishing my reply here. Sorry, it was. I got pulled away for a moment. Anyway, please don't assume that editors who are opposed to many of these firearms inclusions are somehow not following the rules etc. You accused me of advocacy on another firearms article. Keep in mind that I see you advocating etc just in the other direction. We simply disagree with what is in scope for these articles and some people, reasonably, don't want every firearms article to turn into some type of anti-gun article. We have articles for those topics. I'm sure you feel you are acting in good faith. So do I and a number of other editors. Springee (talk) 19:22, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@Tom: Sure, this will be my last post here. I'd still like to point out that (1) there's no need to copy your entire message into an edit summary; and (2) "ignorant POV-pushing" can be perceived as a personal attack. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Regarding to adding multiple links in Visvesvaraya Technological University

Hey,

   I am sorry for adding multiple links to Visvesvaraya_Technological_University. Since I am new to wikipedia edits so i didn't know how it works. I have added one single useful link if you think its not good then you can remove that. I never meant to spam here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anandsingh004 (talk • contribs) 11:46, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Removed references were updated with new reference

In the Acura RDX article, the only removed references were the references in the Sales section of the article. They were replaced with 1 single source that showed annual sales of the RDX in the US and Canada since its initial release date. Some years that did not have references now have a reference that has the correct information from a single source. All other information added to 3 separate sections included 3 reliable sources. I have used similar sources before in numerous other articles and never had issues. If this is still an issue, I apologize, but I did not see a problem myself. 2601:800:C200:3540:6827:A626:4C98:9C7C (talk) 16:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

There are no sales figures on the page you linked to, only a blurb about the upcoming 2019 Acura RDX. - Tom | Thomas.W 17:16, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Canadian sales figures were added, with all of the sales totals matching the new source, minus the 2017 US Sales numbers. It is also still the same person, I just have an IPV4 address. 2601:800:C200:3540:B41D:DEA7:DA06:5E7D (talk) 23:09, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

When I clicked on the reference link that was called "Sales figures" in your edit there was no sales data there at all, only a blurb about the upcoming 2019 Acura RDX. So maybe you provided the wrong link... - Tom | Thomas.W 00:11, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

This is a screenshot of the added sales figures with new reference if you follow that link. -> https://s33.postimg.cc/n6e7odnxr/Screen_Shot_2018-05-31_at_8.32.04_PM.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:800:C200:3540:1C5:FE2:B93F:3CAB (talk) 00:39, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh wow, double checking my edit, I just realized that I overlooked the mistake with the reference. This was suppose to be the link: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/acura-rdx-sales-figures/ 2601:800:C200:3540:147C:5CD2:B17D:74A3 (talk) 05:01, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Kemi Omololu-Olunloyo

Why did you revert my edits? I am in Nigeria and I researched this case very well putting accurate info out on it. Your edits are not accurate and potentially libelous. Too many people are vandalizing the page.

Refs 11 is tabloid Journalism. The case was not about an affair. It was about a newstip posted by a Journalist sent by a church member about a pastor. Wikiyabo (talk) 13:57, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Pls review #9 She was not detained in an immigration center. She was detained in a women's maximum prison according to the Toronto Sun Wikiyabo (talk) 14:07, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@Wikiyabo: Your edits were reverted because a) much of it was pure unencyclopaedic trivia and simply doesn't belong in an encyclopaedia (as I pointed out in my edit summary by saying that "Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, not Facebook or a personal blog..."), and b) much if was unsourced, and the rest was mostly sourced to web sites that are not considered as reliable sources here. There was also far too much about her "fundraising", i.e. her attempts to get people to donate money to her to pay for her recovery for "post traumatic stress" (after her short stint in jail), in the blogs etc you used as sources. And to be honest I question whether she's notable enough, by Misplaced Pages's standards, to even have an article here. - Tom | Thomas.W 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Refs 15 She was not released in April 2017. She was granted bail but conditions weren't met. Pls review my edits.

Refs 18,19 She was not incarcerated for defamation. She was neither convicted nor sentenced. She was DETAINED in prison. Nigeria doesn't have city and state jails. The case was withdrawn. Pls review my edits!! This is libelous. Wikiyabo (talk) 14:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Also she is known as MadamKOO on social media no longer Snitchlady a name on the streets of Toronto not on social media. A name that received death threats Wikiyabo (talk) 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

But can you get the information right on her arrest. The sources I used were reliable sources. Punch newspapers the leading daily. If you think she's not notable then the article should be removed. I read wikipedia notes of editors FIGHTING over that. Encyclopedia info still had to be accurate. Wikiyabo (talk) 14:16, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I have removed every mention of her arrest from the article, for being insufficiently sourced for that kind of material. - Tom | Thomas.W 14:19, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Tom two last questions. Kemi Omololu-Olunloyo is a US notable pharmacist and her external links to her site was removed. HNNAfrica was down while she was detained. Can I link it and social media pages once they are back up? Wiki is not a resume but why was her pharmacist degree taking out? She is notable as both. She had 3 degrees notable as two. Wikiyabo (talk) 15:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

You can use only reliable sources independent of the subject (see WP:RS), i.e. not sources that are even remotely connected to her. Which if she really is "a US notable pharmacist" shouldn't be hard to find. - Tom | Thomas.W 15:55, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I see the " formerly" known as Snitchlady. What about the immigration detention center part of the Deportation? I see a prison detention at Vanier Women's Center. Can this article be expanded in the Activism part? Wikiyabo (talk) 15:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I get the impression that the changes you made (including using stories on umpteen blogs mentioning her fundraising efforts as sources) and the changes you now want are intended to help her get money from people in Nigeria, by making them feel sorry for her. Were you hired to do this? - Tom | Thomas.W 15:55, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I strongly suspect this is the same editor as Wikiafrican and almost certainly multiple other accounts who've made similar edits to that page and have been blocked. Ravensfire (talk) 18:04, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Thomas what exactly is a reliable independent source? Nigeria had thousands of syndicated blogs. I tend to only use newspapers. I simply scan celebrity stories that are notable enough for an encyclopedia. I don't know any of these people in let alone get hired by them. Her fundraiser is all over the internet. Only mentioned it because it was related to that arrest. It's not important now since an arrest section does not exist.Please do not block me based on the word libelous. I now know the channels to resolve disputes. Now was the pharmacist part removed because her health news blog was removed under external links? Also can I expand the Activism part? There is an article I found on female genital mutilation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiyabo (talk • contribs) 01:50, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda! And keep up the good work with articles about real music, it's much appreciated! - Tom | Thomas.W 08:23, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Miss Grand Puerto Rico Column Deletion

Hi, how are you doing today?

Recently, you wrote on my talk page "Hello. I have reverted your edits since the article is about Miss Puerto Rico only, not Miss Grand Puerto Rico, so do not add it back again. Thank you. - Tom | Thomas.W 15:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)."

I am a little confused of why you deleted the Miss Grand Puerto Rico column on Miss Puerto Rico. Miss Grand Puerto Rico is a beauty pageant too and I think it should be on there. What can I do to make it so it can stay on there? It has multiple pageants including Miss Universe Puerto Rico, Miss Puerto Rico World, Miss Puerto Rico Earth, Miss Puerto Rico International, and Miss Puerto Rico America. I am kind of wondering why those 5 can be on 1 page, but Miss Grand Puerto Rico can't be included

Thanks Braniac2000 (talk) 15:49, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Is this Shingling334?

Hi Tom, I reverted and marked this Special:Contributions/86.17.71.33 as being Shingling334, but maybe I'm mistaken. I know you're familiar with them, maybe you can take a look? Thanks. --IamNotU (talk) 20:37, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

@IamNotU: I don't think it's Shingling334. It might be a friend or a copycat but I can't see any signs of it being a proxy, which means the geolocation is wrong for Shingling, both because he has edited from Turkey as recently as a couple of days ago, as he does every summer, and because it doesn't match his known geolocation even if he was in the UK. - Tom | Thomas.W 21:02, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! --IamNotU (talk) 21:30, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Change Shahapur, Karnataka to Shahapur, Yadagiri (Karnataka)

Hi there, I agree with your point that no one outside the India know where is Yadagiri but for the Kannadigas it is quite confusing because there are many places in Karnataka in the name of Shahapur(For ex-Shahapur, Belgaum). So, I request you to change the name from Shahapur, Karnataka to Shahapur, Yadagiri or Shahapur, Yadagiri(Karnataka). Rishi Muni (talk) 14:28, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

@Rishi Muni: There are redirects from "Shahapur, Yadagiri", "Shahpur, Yadgir" and "Shahpur, Karnataka" to the article, so anyone who writes either of those names in the searchbox is led to Shahapur, Karnataka. And the article clearly states that it's about the Shahapur that is located in Yadgir/Yadagiri district of Karnataka, so there should be no misunderstandings. - Tom | Thomas.W 14:40, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, You understand what I'm trying to say. Kindly think also from the local point of view. If a person intending to search for Shahapur, Belgaum types Shahapur then he will see Shahapur of Thane district and below that Shahapur, Karnataka which directs to the city in Yadagiri district. If he sees Shahapur, Yadagiri instead of Shahapur, Karnataka he could skip that unnecessary click. Please change the name to Shahapur, Yadagiri. Rishi Muni (talk) 14:54, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Readers who type "Shahapur, Belgaum" will get to Shahapur, Belgaum, an article about the village in the Belgaum district. A small village that with all probability isn't the most well known, and most searched for, "Shahapur" in Karnataka (there are also several "Shahapur" in Maharashtra, and probably elsewhere too...). If you want to move the article, start a formal requested move discussion. - Tom | Thomas.W 15:21, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Removed trivial awards, mainly sourced to own press releases

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ixigo&oldid=848716084

Hello, Thank you for the edit.

All the awards listed had external links to reputed media houses and can be easily given multiple citations. I am relatively new to the wikipedia community. Could you please help me add the content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaibhav jalan (talk • contribs) 20:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

@Vaibhav jalan: No, they did not all have "external links to reputed media houses", almost all of them were sourced only to websites that publish company press releases, i.e. sourced to the subject of the article itself. Misplaced Pages requires in-depth coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject to establish notability (see Misplaced Pages's general notability guidelines), and the article, in it's current state, falls short of those requirements, so I also restored the notability tag that you removed. I also removed tonnes of inline external links, including multiple download links to the company's mobile apps, since they're not allowed. I very strongly suggest you read Misplaced Pages's rules about reliable sources, verifiability and notability, and find sources that comply with our rules, or the article risks being deleted. - Tom | Thomas.W 20:37, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

NLSIU edits

https://en.wikipedia.org/National_Law_School_of_India_University

Hello,

I am new to this, but I had a few questions with regards to your edits. The costs and tuition are present on the pages of universities such as Harvard Law and Yale Law, which is why I thought they were relevant to the page as well. Further, I was wondering why the institution of a scholarship policy that was recognised independently as robust would be inappropriate as well.

Thanks! ShreedharKale (talk) 19:11, 5 July 2018 (UTC)Shreedhar

Violation of AR-15 style rifle arbitration remedies

Your revert of my revert violates the discretionary sanctions in place on AR-15 style rifle:"Consensus required: All editors must obtain consensus on the talk page of this article before reinstating any edits that have been challenged (via reversion). This includes making edits similar to the ones that have been challenged. If in doubt, don't make the edit.".

Please self-revert. If you do not, I will open an ANI and you may be blocked from editing. Thanks. Waleswatcher (talk) 13:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@Waleswatcher: Did you really, seriously, expect me to feel intimidated by your post? A discussion at WP:ANI will put as much focus on you, and your tendentious editing on multiple gun politics-related articles, as on my revert of your "I don't agree"-edit (scrutinizing the behaviour also of whoever files a report is standard procedure at ANI...). Putting you in at least as great a risk of getting blocked as me... - Tom | Thomas.W 13:20, 20 July 2018 (UTC)