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| Please feel free to move this to an appropriate section. The welcome section states "I expect that the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article." I agree that the policies and guidelines that apply, should apply equally to all images. However, I believe that the facts surrounding the Maome image are significantly different from the facts surrounding most other images of Muhammad. Thus, I believe that the application of the same policies and guidelines to all images of Muhammad may result in different outcomes for the different images. Could you clarify whether "the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article" is intended mean that outcome (i.e. whether to include or exclude) may depend upon the particular image under consideration? Thanks. --] <font color = "blue"><sup>]</sup></font> 19:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC) | Please feel free to move this to an appropriate section. The welcome section states "I expect that the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article." I agree that the policies and guidelines that apply, should apply equally to all images. However, I believe that the facts surrounding the Maome image are significantly different from the facts surrounding most other images of Muhammad. Thus, I believe that the application of the same policies and guidelines to all images of Muhammad may result in different outcomes for the different images. Could you clarify whether "the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article" is intended mean that outcome (i.e. whether to include or exclude) may depend upon the particular image under consideration? Thanks. --] <font color = "blue"><sup>]</sup></font> 19:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
| :It means that if the outcome of this is that the image does not appear on the page, and then someone runs off and finds another image an hour later and posts it, that the things we discuss here should be considered there as well. It's been my experience that where there's one debate, there is another waiting behind the door. Make sense? --<font color="3300FF">] (])</font> 19:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC) | :It means that if the outcome of this is that the image does not appear on the page, and then someone runs off and finds another image an hour later and posts it, that the things we discuss here should be considered there as well. It's been my experience that where there's one debate, there is another waiting behind the door. Make sense? --<font color="3300FF">] (])</font> 19:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ::It makes sense that the principles that are discussed here should apply to future images that may be added or deleted. I think we are on the same page, but I'm not entirely sure. Rather than beat this to death, I will sign my name above with the understanding that the uniform application of principles to different concrete questions can result in different concrete results. If you think there is further need to clarify this issue, please do so now. Sincerely, --] <font color = "blue"><sup>]</sup></font> 19:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 19:58, 2 November 2006
Welcome
Good day, everyone. As you may know, BostonMA (talk · contribs) filed a request for mediation here regarding a dispute over adding this particular image to the article. I took the case. As DocEss (talk · contribs) pointed out on the case page, I expect that the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article.
- What you should know about me
- I'm unbiased - I don't edit Islam-related articles or have a vested interest in the outcome of this mediation.
- I am an administrator, which doesn't mean anything about my mediation style except that I can easily protect the article if edit warring occurs.
- My ground rules
- No personal attacks
- Assume good faith
- All opinions are welcome and encouraged; breaking policies is not.
- Agreed?
Let's start by having every involved party sign below that they are on board this train. Then we'll get started!
- --Aguerriero (talk) 19:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- --Patstuart 19:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC) - don't know if I'll be able to be present, always, but I'll do my best.
Request for clarification
Please feel free to move this to an appropriate section. The welcome section states "I expect that the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article." I agree that the policies and guidelines that apply, should apply equally to all images. However, I believe that the facts surrounding the Maome image are significantly different from the facts surrounding most other images of Muhammad. Thus, I believe that the application of the same policies and guidelines to all images of Muhammad may result in different outcomes for the different images. Could you clarify whether "the result of this mediation will logically apply to any depiction of Muhammad considered for inclusion in the article" is intended mean that outcome (i.e. whether to include or exclude) may depend upon the particular image under consideration? Thanks. --BostonMA 19:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- It means that if the outcome of this is that the image does not appear on the page, and then someone runs off and finds another image an hour later and posts it, that the things we discuss here should be considered there as well. It's been my experience that where there's one debate, there is another waiting behind the door. Make sense? --Aguerriero (talk) 19:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- It makes sense that the principles that are discussed here should apply to future images that may be added or deleted. I think we are on the same page, but I'm not entirely sure. Rather than beat this to death, I will sign my name above with the understanding that the uniform application of principles to different concrete questions can result in different concrete results. If you think there is further need to clarify this issue, please do so now. Sincerely, --BostonMA 19:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)