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: Well, I don't know your history with the user, but I've noticed there's a breed of American that likes to whip out Pearl Harbour at every opportunity—plenty of such folk were calling 東日本大震災 "payback for Pearl Harbour". ] <span style="color: Red;">🍁</span> ] 03:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC) | : Well, I don't know your history with the user, but I've noticed there's a breed of American that likes to whip out Pearl Harbour at every opportunity—plenty of such folk were calling 東日本大震災 "payback for Pearl Harbour". ] <span style="color: Red;">🍁</span> ] 03:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC) | ||
::Well, I had seen no indication that he was one of those guys despite combing a bunch of his edits for copyvio. Basically after I opened a CCI on him he opened an ANI on me, and a bunch of folks showed up to essentially say "Yeah, Hijiri88 is very much in the right in this case, so let's just put the OP under more scrutiny for copyvio, and not indef him for harassment" (some people who didn't know me said "Let's indef the OP for copyvio"). After a couple of days I decided I'd had enough and went on break, after which point the thread was closed. Once I came back to Misplaced Pages yesterday, suddenly the offending editor was posting anti-Japanese propaganda on his user page, and citing the 75th anniversary of ] (!?) as an excuse. I'm not sure if he thinks I won't notice, or if the mere fact of my having noticed is gonna be trumped up by him as further evidence of my "hounding him" -- it would do him great if he could point to anti-Japanese edits he made ''before'' his first interaction with me, but otherwise it just looks like he's posting racist dog-whistles on his user page specifically for my attention, which is the opposite of me hounding him. ] (<small>]]</small>) 03:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC) | ::Well, I had seen no indication that he was one of those guys despite combing a bunch of his edits for copyvio. Basically after I opened a CCI on him he opened an ANI on me, and a bunch of folks showed up to essentially say "Yeah, Hijiri88 is very much in the right in this case, so let's just put the OP under more scrutiny for copyvio, and not indef him for harassment" (some people who didn't know me said "Let's indef the OP for copyvio"). After a couple of days I decided I'd had enough and went on break, after which point the thread was closed. Once I came back to Misplaced Pages yesterday, suddenly the offending editor was posting anti-Japanese propaganda on his user page, and citing the 75th anniversary of ] (!?) as an excuse. I'm not sure if he thinks I won't notice, or if the mere fact of my having noticed is gonna be trumped up by him as further evidence of my "hounding him" -- it would do him great if he could point to anti-Japanese edits he made ''before'' his first interaction with me, but otherwise it just looks like he's posting racist dog-whistles on his user page specifically for my attention, which is the opposite of me hounding him. ] (<small>]]</small>) 03:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC) | ||
== HOUND == | |||
Posting this here because, while I'm not afraid to point it out in public, I'm worried that posting a "we really don't need to listen to this guy, since he's here for tendentious and highly hypocritical reasons" directly on ] would be tagged as "inappropriate use of a policy talk page" even though it's clearly on-topic and relevant. I dunno ... if you or ] or ] agree with me then I wouldn't need to be the one to point it out. | |||
I'm just going to point out that despite claiming HARASS is the most important Misplaced Pages policy excepting possibly NPA, Snow Rise has never edited this page before posting , and is in fact one of the editors who has repeatedly asserted that when I monitor the edits of disruptive editors like the above-mentioned 11-character editor it qualifies as hounding, and was himself personally responsible for much of the difficulty in handling the problematic editors. His opinion on who is in the right never seems to change no matter how many of the users I was "hounding" ultimately get sitebanned. How did he notice this discussion, why does he show up every time I am accused of "hounding" a problematic editor (including attempting to rewrite a clear statement by ArbCom in order to rehash hounding accusations he had made three years earlier), and do you think he realizes the irony of ''him'' repeatedly accusing ''me'' of hounding? | |||
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Overqualified?
Here's a first: my years of writing and reviewing FAs disqualifies me from making MoS fixes to articles owned by the "little people". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
I wonder ...
... how long this will stay visible. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- What do you expect where not even flowers are welcome? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- SchroCat: What "poking"? Cassianto's telling an unprovoked lie about me. Seriously, what the fuck? And why now? When's the last time I even interacted with the guy? And why not delete his (actual) trolling of me while you're at it? These questions aren't rhetorical ...
- ... and what in the flying fuck are you accusing me of that would "backfire"?! What fucking game is this?! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- I wonder what makes the difference between Percy Grainger and Psalm 149, protect one, but revert the other? Also the difference between Imogen Holst and her father. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- I don't give two shits about the Infobox Wars; I give many, many shits about the spreading of cowardly lies about me. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- ...not a lie. But you keep telling yourself that. Cassianto 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your "creative interpretation" doesn't even make sense in the context (tellingly, you don't even try). Neither does bringing it up out of the blue two years after the blocks expired. I'd've thought having successfully conned an admin into administering 20% of my blocks would've been revenge enough for calling you out, but apparently you intend to spread this lie until you're finally indeffed. That's some superhuman grudgeholding. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- "Calling out" for what? Be very careful, or I'll see to it that my 20% stake in your block log is increased. Cassianto 09:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- "Calling you out" for digging up every opportunity to keep your end of that discussion knee-deep in irrelevant ad hominems, of course. Resorting to laughably empty threats instead of retracting your lie only paints you as more the coward, terrified to own up to his missteps. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- As I think we've established, it wasn't a lie. Anyway, this is my last post conversing with you. I have better things to do, like going to watch some grass grow Cassianto 19:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- You haven't been "conversing" with anyone—you've been trolling and lying, and doing a piss-poor job of hiding it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Of course, a troll'd troll poorly if they didn't deny everything, so I guess the only thing to do at this point is to keep this horseshit out in the open—sunlight as disinfectant. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- You haven't been "conversing" with anyone—you've been trolling and lying, and doing a piss-poor job of hiding it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- As I think we've established, it wasn't a lie. Anyway, this is my last post conversing with you. I have better things to do, like going to watch some grass grow Cassianto 19:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- "Calling you out" for digging up every opportunity to keep your end of that discussion knee-deep in irrelevant ad hominems, of course. Resorting to laughably empty threats instead of retracting your lie only paints you as more the coward, terrified to own up to his missteps. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- "Calling out" for what? Be very careful, or I'll see to it that my 20% stake in your block log is increased. Cassianto 09:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your "creative interpretation" doesn't even make sense in the context (tellingly, you don't even try). Neither does bringing it up out of the blue two years after the blocks expired. I'd've thought having successfully conned an admin into administering 20% of my blocks would've been revenge enough for calling you out, but apparently you intend to spread this lie until you're finally indeffed. That's some superhuman grudgeholding. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- ...not a lie. But you keep telling yourself that. Cassianto 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- I don't give two shits about the Infobox Wars; I give many, many shits about the spreading of cowardly lies about me. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- I wonder what makes the difference between Percy Grainger and Psalm 149, protect one, but revert the other? Also the difference between Imogen Holst and her father. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, Curly Turkey. You have new messages at Talk:Did Six Million Really Die?.Message added 01:12, 2 January 2019 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Shearonink (talk) 01:12, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Shearonink: Are you sure? I don't see anything, and it's not an area I normally edit. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- I ran into an IP-hopper/vandal who was deleting the phrase from the disambiguation line of the article & you had edited the article somewhat recently (lol maybe August of lAst year?) and I was wondering what the consensus about the phrase might be. That's all - an admin stepped in on the situation. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 05:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
2019
Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Misplaced Pages, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? - Can you check out the last entry on my talk, for notabilty? Look for "Japanese". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Huh
Again I must ask, how is this guy not blocked yet?
I also don't recall any specific time in the past he's told me to stay off his talk page; he's blanked my comments a bunch of times with nonsense/sarcastic/degrading edit summaries, but the closest he came to was "Do not post on my talk page unless it is an actual discussion" -- hardly "specifically to stop posting to talk page ", and by telling me to "Cease immediately, else be faced with a report similar to those threaten and intimidate multiple other editors with" -- I don't even know what he's talking about, since it's been months since I "threatened" a single editor with such a report, and then not with the intent of "intimidating" like using legalistic language like "cease immediately". (And yes, I know he's almost certainly referring to this, in which I said dig your heels in, deny, and get blocked to prevent further damage to the project
but there was also the critical context in which it was posted -- Seriously, take the hint here. I'm trying to help you, but you are digging yourself a hole that you're not going to be able to get out of. I'm begging you to .
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Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:11, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
January 2019
Please stop your disruptive editing.
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Off topic arguing removed from WP:ANI
Hi. Please do not restore that content again. The thread was closed to stop you and the other editor arguing unproductively. Carrying on afterwards is not acceptable, hence its removal. Restore it again and I will block your account from editing for disruption. Regards, Fish+Karate 11:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Fish and karate: It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless, so you're not accomplishing anything but aggravating people with this behaviour. You still have the option to revert and hat, like I requested—unless threatening victims of harassment with blocks is more your style. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:47, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- As I said, restore it again and you will be blocked for disruption. Being very clear on an entirely avoidable consequence is not a threat. If you want to carry on arguing with another user, do it elsewhere. The thread was closed, this means "stop". I am sorry that you are a victim of harassment, or feel like you are; if you wish to report that harassment please do so, as I would hope it could be resolved. However, this does not exempt you from anything, including being expected to know when to drop the stick. You have been asked, and now have been told, to not post that content back again; that really should be the end of it. If you need it for an arbitration request, or whatever, the diffs are all in the page history. Fish+Karate 12:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Fish and karate: I requested you to hat it rather than obfuscate the record, and you responded with an immediate revert and threat to block, choosing the more aggressive of the options. And here you are reiterating the threat (twice in one post) when it's obvious I'm not about to revert it. Your heels are too firmly dug in to get my hopes up, but perhaps you'll reconsider your approach in the future. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- A re-revert, not a revert. If it's "obvious (you're) not about to revert it" then why say "It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless"? If I mistook your meaning there I do apologize. Fish+Karate 13:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- As in, it's all going straight back into the ANI report I promised, which I've now filed. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 14:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Which is fine, that's what ANI is for, no objection to that. Apologies again for mistaking your meaning - I was under the impression it meant you were going to re-post the content at the end of a closed thread, again. Fish+Karate 15:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- As in, it's all going straight back into the ANI report I promised, which I've now filed. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 14:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- As I said, restore it again and you will be blocked for disruption. Being very clear on an entirely avoidable consequence is not a threat. If you want to carry on arguing with another user, do it elsewhere. The thread was closed, this means "stop". I am sorry that you are a victim of harassment, or feel like you are; if you wish to report that harassment please do so, as I would hope it could be resolved. However, this does not exempt you from anything, including being expected to know when to drop the stick. You have been asked, and now have been told, to not post that content back again; that really should be the end of it. If you need it for an arbitration request, or whatever, the diffs are all in the page history. Fish+Karate 12:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Interaction ban
Following this ANI thread, you are indefinitely banned from interacting with Darkknight2149, subject to the usual exceptions. The restriction has been logged here. GiantSnowman 14:27, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Regarding Borodin and news from Moscow
In regard to this edit, I don't think it was The Moscow News at the time Borodin worked there. The sources I used referred to Moscow News, and the masthead from that period lacked the definite article. The name The Moscow News seems to have been adopted in one of the more recent incarnations of the paper. RGloucester — ☎ 06:36, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- RGloucester—if that's the case, then change it back. You'll probably want to slap a {{not a typo}} on it, and a hidden comment explaining why so someone else doesn't gnome it away again. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Books & Bytes, Issue 32
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- It was awfully clear. Misplaced Pages is not a forum to spread disinformation. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Feeling a bit of an ego boost, but also apologetic
Within moments of the 令和 announcement, the BBC and multiple other English-language outlets had announced that 令 meant "order" or "command" (the clearly bogus implication that the two are different, and therefore that it means order in the sense 順番 or the like, aside, a 万葉集 Book V passage was clearly cited as the source, and in that context it definitely meant "good" or "auspicious"). The administration's intentions in choosing a character that to 99% of Japanese means "command" can be speculated on, I guess, but it just seemed sloppy to me; someone cited them in our article, I tagged the citation as not being the best, and shortly thereafter the BBC article had been partly amended, using the same words as my tag did. I'm definitely not the only one to notice that error, and I wasn't the first, but I imagine a lot of people were looking at Misplaced Pages to check these things.
All that said, a bunch of source's have mistakenly identified the 万葉集 as "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", apparently mirroring a mistranslation that appeared on the Kantei's website. I could have probably prevented some of that if I had done several days ago (or years ago when I first noticed that it was quite a common problem) what I just did now and added "It is not Japan's oldest poetry anthology" to the lead of our article.
It'll probably not be until the next era change (I kinda wish Japan would go back to the old system where eras change a lot more frequently than sovereigns) before my area of the encyclopedia gets that much attention.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Have you been following the English coverage? It gets soooooo much shittier than all that. Check out how many sources translate 令 not only as "order" but "orderly" (!!!!!), so that they translate 令和 as "orderly peace" (!!!!!).
- You appear to be aware that there's controversy in the press and amongst politicians over the name, and there really should be more in the article about it (for example, it's been brought up that the only other time in history 令 was proposed in a nengō was with 令徳, which was rejected as implying "徳川に命令する", so the concerns with the choice "really" meaning "command" are nothing new, and likely known when the choce was made).
- The Man'yōshū article could sure use some love, eh? I was going to make some comment about what you were saying, but then thought I'd double-check the article to see if I had my facts straight ... the article wasn't helpful, so I'll button my lips. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Pronunciation of other candidates than Reiwa
Did you read the source attached to the sentence you contended?
"「令和」考案は中西進氏 古事記・日本書紀含め、3案が国書典拠" (in Japanese). 政府が1日に有識者や閣僚らに提示した六つの新元号案は「令和」のほか、「英弘(えいこう)」「久化(きゅうか)」「広至(こうし)」「万和(ばんな)」「万保(ばんぽう)」だった
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See also
"英弘、久化、広至、万和、万保=政府提示の他5元号案判明". Jiji.com. April 2, 2019. 新元号選定をめぐり、政府が有識者懇談会などに示した六つの原案のうち選ばれなかった五つは「英弘(えいこう)」「久化(きゅうか)」「広至(こうし)」「万和(ばんな)」「万保(ばんぽう)」と分かった
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I don't think Japan Today and its source SoraNews24 are reliable.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Japan-English translation
Hello Curly Turkey
I'm looking for a way to romanize this 3 web pages of N.O.M. 54 (jan 2003) about the video game The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker => . Are you abble and have time to do this ? I writing the corresponding (page on Misplaced Pages in French, but I think this will be usefull for Misplaced Pages in English too.
I also asked this to Bueller 007 and Mr. Stradivarius.
Regards --Archimëa (talk) 16:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry—are you asking for a translation of the whole page? I'm not sure what you're asking me to do. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello
- Thanks for replying. I'm looking for the whole translation of the interview (3 pages), but if I understand as you react that it seems to be a big work for you, the page 2 where the sound progammers talking about they work , should be best interresting part to me.. Google translation and ohers are undrinkable. So, Page 2 if you can ? if you can't i understand, of course.
- Thanks for your help, anyway --Archimëa (talk) 10:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
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Request translations
Please, if you have time, can you translate this pages from Japanese to English: ja:烏丸家 (Karasumaru family), ja:山本顧彌太 (Koyata Yamamoto), ja:亀井重清 (Shigekiyo Kamei), ja:片岡常春 (Tsuneharu Kataoka), ja:伊勢義盛 (Yoshimori Ise), ja:駿河次郎 (Jirō Suruga), ja:鷲尾義久 (Washio Yoshihisa), ja:富樫泰家 (Yasuie Togashi), ja:大社駅 (Taisha Station), ja:村田勝志 (Katsushi Murata), ja:藤井恒久 (Tsunehisa Fujii), ja:宮根誠司 (Seiji Miyane), ja:諸國沙代子 (Sayoko Shokoku), ja:世界一受けたい授業 (THE MOST USEFUL SCHOOL IN THE WORLD), ja:にっぽん丸 (Nippon Maru (1990)), ja:馬場元子 (Motoko Baba), ja:生ハムと焼うどん (Nama Ham & Yaki Udon), ja:さわかぜ (護衛艦) (JDS Sawakaze), ja:いず (巡視船・2代) (Izu (PL 31)), ja:かめりあ丸 (Camellia Maru), ja:京都府警察 (Kyoto Prefectural Police), ja:柳川次郎 (Jirō Yanagawa), ja:花形敬 (Kei Hanagata), ja:小林楠扶 (Kusuo Kobayashi), ja:毎朝新聞 (Maiasa Shinbun), ja:田中六助 (Rokusuke Tanaka), ja:日本赤十字社医療センター (Japanese Red Cross Medical Center), ja:角田 久美子 (Kumiko Tsunoda), ja:安村直樹 (Naoki Yasumura), ja:三枝夕夏 (Yūka Saegusa), ja:少年ケニヤ (Shōnen Kenya), ja:チャンピオン太 (Champion Futoshi), ja:ジャイアント台風 (Giant Typhoon), ja:引田有美 (Yumi Hikita), ja:松岡巌鉄 (Gantetsu Matsuoka), ja:鈴木理子 (ホリプロ) (Riko Suzuki), ja:谷内里早 (Risa Taniuchi), ja:尾崎仁彦 (Kimihiko Ozaki), ja:アーサ米夏 (Aasa Maika), ja:ミスター高橋 (Mister Takahashi), ja:吉村道明 (Michiaki Yoshimura), ja:沖識名 (Shikina Oki), ja:芳の里淳三 (Junzō Yoshinosato), ja:SAKI (SAKI), ja:MIZUKI (MIZUKI), ja:万喜なつみ (Natsumi Maki), ja:篠原光 (Hikaru Shinohara), ja:沖野ヨーコ (漫画家) (Yōko Okino), ja:徳住有香 (Yuka Tokuzumi). Thank you very much. --80.181.64.189 09:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.181.64.189 (talk)
- Hmmm ... I actually enjoy doing translations, but the citations on these don't appear to meet the standards that the Egnlish Misplaced Pages require. If I find the time, maybe I'll look more closely and see what I can do ... Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- I see you've added some more ... Is there some reason you've chosen these articles? Hijiri88: are you looking for anything for one of those article-creation drives? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:06, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm very interested in these voices. I tried to translate them personally, but it's harder than I thought, and above all I don't have enough time. You would do me a big favor if you could help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.232.234.87 (talk) 09:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'll keep looking to see if I can do any of them, but I can't just translate them. If they don't have proper sourcing as per WP:RS, they will be deleted on English Misplaced Pages. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! If they don't have proper sourcing, you can search them in other internet sites. --95.252.44.4 09:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm hoping to win WAM this year, without having an asterisk that technically I didn't get the most points, but that the guy who did copy-pasted many if not most of his articles. So I'm saving my energy for that; and also fixing the Manyoshu articles as penance for not having done so before a bunch of popular news media started talking about it. TRM said List of Man'yōshū poets can't be a featured list until all the poets have their own articles, so that's got me pretty occupied any time I'm in an article-writing mood. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I help you with some proper sources: Koyata Yamamoto (http://www.vggallery.com/painting/p_0459.htm). --87.4.239.94 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.4.239.94 (talk)
- Unfortunately, those aren't the kind of sources that are acceptable at English Misplaced Pages. Please see WP:RS. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:46, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Then I left these translations to you, when you will have time and find proper sources. Please, don't forget it, if you can. --80.116.115.163 16:01, 23 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.116.115.163 (talk)
- Unfortunately, those aren't the kind of sources that are acceptable at English Misplaced Pages. Please see WP:RS. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:46, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- I help you with some proper sources: Koyata Yamamoto (http://www.vggallery.com/painting/p_0459.htm). --87.4.239.94 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.4.239.94 (talk)
- I'm hoping to win WAM this year, without having an asterisk that technically I didn't get the most points, but that the guy who did copy-pasted many if not most of his articles. So I'm saving my energy for that; and also fixing the Manyoshu articles as penance for not having done so before a bunch of popular news media started talking about it. TRM said List of Man'yōshū poets can't be a featured list until all the poets have their own articles, so that's got me pretty occupied any time I'm in an article-writing mood. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! If they don't have proper sourcing, you can search them in other internet sites. --95.252.44.4 09:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'll keep looking to see if I can do any of them, but I can't just translate them. If they don't have proper sourcing as per WP:RS, they will be deleted on English Misplaced Pages. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm very interested in these voices. I tried to translate them personally, but it's harder than I thought, and above all I don't have enough time. You would do me a big favor if you could help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.232.234.87 (talk) 09:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I see you've added some more ... Is there some reason you've chosen these articles? Hijiri88: are you looking for anything for one of those article-creation drives? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:06, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Japanese honorifics
Please, can you help me with this discussion? Thank you. --79.24.236.241 06:25, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Rikidōzan
Please, can you edit one of these photos about Katsushi Murata, his murderer, in the paragraph "Death": Identikit (site), Murata and his daughter, Katsushi Murata (site). Thank you. --82.48.216.50 17:23, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- I can add the first one, because it was published by an organization more than 50 years ago. The other two photos are still under copyright, though. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:54, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, but can you edit also the journal article which is in that same site? There is also this discussion, if you can help me. --79.16.239.68 07:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Giant Baba family
There are these photos about his family if you can edit: Shohei Baba and his parents, Shohei Baba and his mother (December 1968), Shohei Baba and his mother (colors), Journal photos. --79.16.239.68 07:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Books & Bytes, Issue 33
Books & Bytes
Issue 33, March – April 2019
- #1Lib1Ref
- Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
- Global branches update
- Bytes in brief
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Canadian Politics Arbitration Case
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Yoshitsune (TV series)
Please, can you create List of Yoshitsune (TV series) characters? Thank you. --79.44.235.28 08:31, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
So, that happened...
Trump gave a speech about the imperial household and the Man'yōshū and Reiwa and Tabito and Okura. Pretty hilarious by itself to think that anyone would think it was Trump's own words coming out of his mouth. But what's even more interesting is that he didn't repeat the same "oldest poetry anthology" error that appears on Abe's English website and every English-language media outlet that has discussed the issue over the last few months (except the English version of the Mainichi's website). I guess someone on Trump's team checked English Misplaced Pages (specifically this text) and noticed the mistake, and changed it to the extremely 意訳ish a collection of ancient Japanese poetry called the Man'yōshū
. The apostrophe and the macrons really look like someone checked English Misplaced Pages, unless the Trump White House includes someone with a grounding in the writings of Miller and Keene, and the fact that "Japan's oldest " has been so ubiquitous as a translation of the phrase "日本最古の歌集" makes me really want to believe that Trump was told by Abe through an interpreter that the source of the name "Reiwa" is "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", Trump's speech was drafted to include that, and someone looked on Misplaced Pages during the drafting.
Now, I wonder how the South Korean (and North Korean) governments will react to Trump having shoehorned in a reference to Yamanoue no Okura and not mentioning his being a likely immigrant from Paekche. That seems really like something someone on the Abe side got Trump to say and no one on the American side knew enough to see the problem. Then again, it's entirely possible I'm literally the only person to notice this who wasn't directly involved.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- I sure wouldn't have noticed. I wanted to hear the speech to hear how Trump would trip over pronouncing Man'yōshū, but all I could find is this, which cuts out before those sections (assuming he gave the whole speech). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:25, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- サンキュー Don't have to worry about the Koreans—he talks about "Yamanoue no Okora", so nobody's gonna notice. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Not sure what to make of this
I don't think I've ever conflicted with a user who was trying to set themselves up as a good-faith Wikipedian whose goals were in line with the project, who immediately after failing to get me site-banned posted a bunch of dog-whistles about "those sneaky Japs" on their user page. Obviously a lot of editors I've conflicted with have assumed I was secretly Japanese despite my relatively much better English than Japanese ability and the clear statement on my user page, but this is a step or two further, and those guys were usually using throwaway sock accounts to do that. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know your history with the user, but I've noticed there's a breed of American that likes to whip out Pearl Harbour at every opportunity—plenty of such folk were calling 東日本大震災 "payback for Pearl Harbour". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I had seen no indication that he was one of those guys despite combing a bunch of his edits for copyvio. Basically after I opened a CCI on him he opened an ANI on me, and a bunch of folks showed up to essentially say "Yeah, Hijiri88 is very much in the right in this case, so let's just put the OP under more scrutiny for copyvio, and not indef him for harassment" (some people who didn't know me said "Let's indef the OP for copyvio"). After a couple of days I decided I'd had enough and went on break, after which point the thread was closed. Once I came back to Misplaced Pages yesterday, suddenly the offending editor was posting anti-Japanese propaganda on his user page, and citing the 75th anniversary of D-Day (!?) as an excuse. I'm not sure if he thinks I won't notice, or if the mere fact of my having noticed is gonna be trumped up by him as further evidence of my "hounding him" -- it would do him great if he could point to anti-Japanese edits he made before his first interaction with me, but otherwise it just looks like he's posting racist dog-whistles on his user page specifically for my attention, which is the opposite of me hounding him. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
HOUND
Posting this here because, while I'm not afraid to point it out in public, I'm worried that posting a "we really don't need to listen to this guy, since he's here for tendentious and highly hypocritical reasons" directly on WT:HARASS would be tagged as "inappropriate use of a policy talk page" even though it's clearly on-topic and relevant. I dunno ... if you or User:Tryptofish or User:CorbieV agree with me then I wouldn't need to be the one to point it out.
I'm just going to point out that despite claiming HARASS is the most important Misplaced Pages policy excepting possibly NPA, Snow Rise has never edited this page before posting the above, and is in fact one of the editors who has repeatedly asserted that when I monitor the edits of disruptive editors like the above-mentioned 11-character editor it qualifies as hounding, and was himself personally responsible for much of the difficulty in handling the problematic editors. His opinion on who is in the right never seems to change no matter how many of the users I was "hounding" ultimately get sitebanned. How did he notice this discussion, why does he show up every time I am accused of "hounding" a problematic editor (including attempting to rewrite a clear statement by ArbCom in order to rehash hounding accusations he had made three years earlier), and do you think he realizes the irony of him repeatedly accusing me of hounding?