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When ever I'm looking at a wiki article... and I look at the history page... your name is on it... usually recently. Good job!!! But how the hell are you on all of these things? Sgarza 21:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Yay!

Yay, indeed. ;P Highway 18:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Case Closed Naming Question

I think it is in a deadlock, if we combine the opinions in Talk:Case Closed and Misplaced Pages Talk:WikiProject Anime and Manga. I plan to invoke WP:RfC, and I want you to give an opinion for this. Samuel Curtis 09:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I have prepared a RfC thread draft in my user space: User:Samuel Curtis/Case Closed RfC. If you think a RfC is necessary, please check if the RfC is appropriate. Samuel Curtis 11:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually that article was prepared according to Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Article RfC example. As a result, the "Comments" part is just part of the RfC but not for your comments-- however, your comments in Talk:Case Closed#Stop It!!! is well noted and would be copied into the RfC.

Also, since your dispute with User:Robin_SnnS is going a bit dirty, IMO, so I am asking for RfC. I hope you won't mind that. Samuel Curtis 16:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Naruto

My mistake. Still, western naming order is common among such series, regardless of what time period they may be placed in. For simple consistency if nothing else, they should be ordered that way. I would also point out that the qualifications for using a non-western order specifically notes "historical figure" as the qualifications, which the characters in this series surely aren't. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 21:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

And the anime uses Western order. Which do you think people will be more familiar with? I really hate to say it, but people these days spend far more time watching television than they do reading. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 21:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Ha ha (or whatever typing-based laugh approximation you prefer)! Regardless of any interpretations one might make on the manual or style or however Viz may do their work, it's my simple opinion that the western naming order should apply to everything except historical figures. Regardless of a time period in which a series may take place, it's still created after that point. To avoid general confusion, surname should be last. I doubt I can change your mind about the order, but the reverse is also true. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 21:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Stop vandalizing.

It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks!

Misplaced Pages operates on the principle that every contributor has a right if they wish to remain completely anonymous. Misplaced Pages policy on that issue is strictly enforced. Posting private information about a user, specifically their (alleged) name and/or personal details, is strictly prohibited as harassment, and users who do that are often immediately blocked from editing Misplaced Pages.

Such posting can cause offence or embarrassment to the victim of the posting, not least because it means that their name, and any personal criticism or allegations made against them can then appear on web searches. If you have posted such information, please remove it immediately. Please then follow the link to this page and inform people there that the information was posted (but crucially, do not repost it on that page). An admin or developer can then remove the information from the archives of Misplaced Pages.

If you do not ensure that personal information you posted is removed from this site you may be blocked from editing this site. REMEMBER: Misplaced Pages's privacy policy is there to protect the privacy of every user, including you.

I urge you to stop blatantly accusing me, and the constant vandalizing of my talk pages. Apparently you are not civil enough to get the message from edit text. Refrain from posting my contact information, as I didn't put them in WP for a reason. I hope that you will come to your senses and stop this nonsense. MonsterOfTheLake 02:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Link

Sorry, didn't mean AI/V, meant WP:AN/I. — xaosflux 02:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

RYULONG Harrasment

Hi.. I too have been totally and utterly harrassed and wikibullied by RYULONG... two days ago... I was trying to bring up a topic on the JEREMY CLARKSON discussion page and he would just delete it every time I would paste it.

Look HERE and you can see that he just kept deleteing it over and over so that I could NOT have it discussed.

He was trying to paste a quote into the article where Jeremy had supposedly said that "Americans have sex with their cousins because that's what they do". He insisted that it should remain claiming that on Misplaced Pages you have to prove that someone DIDN't say something not that they DID. I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT... the guy is a total fantasist and bully. These people were often bullied heavily at school.

I deleted it and told him that he needed a SOURCE if he was going to claim something so controversial.

Naturally I wrote about it on the DISCUSSION page and he just kept deleting it over and over and then started harrassing me and sending me smug emails and messages. Eventually I told him to F.O. right on his TALK page as you can see for yourself... so naturally he had me blocked and I just kept coming back with different IPs and correcting his INCEST fantasies. It was hilarious, eventually RYULONG and some other WIKIBULLIES tried to block all of my IPs and then My WHOLE RANGE of IPs. and I just kept coming back and coming back and correcting the page. I have over 30 different ISPs I can connect through so It was funny to see their smug little bullying attempts overridden and thwarted again and again. I burned the shit out of them.

Eventually the ANTI-AMERICAN brigade were forced to go and PROVE teh quote by citing a SOURCE. As suspected, the actual sentence was NOTHING like the one that they were insisting that he "probably said".

This guy is not a proper ADMIN is he? He needs to be sorted out anyway. A real problem for nice folk trying to keep the books FACTUAL.

Any idea how to complain about his stalking and harrasment?

My username is YourCousin but they have blocked me for a week for REVERTING the fals INCEST claims. Weird place huh? Anyway... you can reach me on my User Page if you have any ideas on who helps with Wiki-bullies?

Ciao

YourCousin--86.29.114.38 11:01, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

NOTE: 86 posted this to talk pages of many people. I doubt that he is correct in this argument. WhisperToMe 17:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh no it's a NOTE in bold! ;) Current situation of this user can be found at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#YourCousin_sockpuppeting.--Andeh 17:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it's unfair that you would say that 'you doubt' that I am correct. All you have to do is to look at the pages that I've been talking about, you will see that EVERYTHING I havbe said is true. Why would you sit on your hands 'doubting' when the TRUTH is a few click away? Are you BLINDLY on his side or are you a fair person? Why not have a look? The truth has NO HOLES EVER!!

Ryulong HAS been bullying and tried very hard to keep a false QUOTE on theJEREMY CLARKSON page. Using sock puppets I was able to force him through the aid of other editors, to acquire the ACTUAL quote and SOURCE it... what a criminal I am huh?!

Ryulong on the other hand, repeatedly deleted my DISCUSSION TOPIC in his attempt to place the FALSE INCEST statement on the page.

If you are going to quote someone claiming that they've made jokes about INCEST, then you should back it up with a source.

Isn't WIKIPEDIA about accuracy and integrity?

It's all there in black and white.

Also - I did not email tons of users... I left messages on approx 4 pages. I thought I was messaging people that had problems with the guy too. AFTER I did that, I discovered that the guy had been nominated for ADMIN... this was really bad news.

This all started with a group of Anti-American editors that PROTECT the Jeremy Clarkson page. Both incidents have since been corrected as I was relying on fact not ambigous anti-American information.

I am not a BULLY. I am not politically motivated. I am not a vandal. My issues have been about FACTUALISING the political works of crooked admin who abuse the 3rr rule and cite PERSONAL ATTACK REACTION as personal attack.

I hope you will actually look into this. You seem to have taken a great interest in it, why not be wholesome and fair and look into my claim?

Thanks for reading.

YourCousin --86.29.116.209 18:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm honestly not here for a fight or debate, I just ask that you please look into what I've talked about (the bullying and dicscussion topic deleting) and let me know what you think.

I have a proper USERNAME with nearly 2,000 edits. If I use that to communicate with you or edit the Jeremy Clarkson page, the ADMIN and editors there follow you around undoing your work and getting their ADMIN buddies to block you. So I have special IDs for such pages. Sorry. They made it that way. I DO NOT VANDALISE.

Today, I tried to tell my VALID story on Ryulong's admin nomination page and his #3 supporter, MR LEFTY was there within 120 seconds to delete and censor my story. This is unfair. The whole vote is now unfair because of such censure.

If you are not crooked, then please at least tell me, "YES, IT LOOKS LIKE HE DID THWART YOUR DISCUSSION AND TRY TO KEEP THE WRONG QUOTE IN THE PAGE"... that's all. That's how it all got started. I am 38 years old, I don't find INCEST as funny as Ryulong.

Please respond. I would appreciate it.

YourCousin--86.29.116.209 19:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Ha ha... I've just noticed that you're from TEXAS... I AM FROM MIDLAND TEXAS!!!(but living in the UK for now) 750 miles from Houston I think, but damn man!! don't you see who these Anti-USA guys are? Don't you recognize the Don't Mess With Texas attitude from me? LOOK AT THE REVERTS!

This all started because the page said that YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PASSPORT to buy a drink in USA and that machine guns are legal. This pissed me off because Anti American people in Britain thrive on this mis-information. My revert war with Ryulong was down to him wanting to keep a statement that said that ALL AMERICANS HAVE INCEST.. the quote was false, but he went al great lengths to keep it, stating that it didnt need a source. I think that if you say that someone else said that an entire COUNTRY(THE USA) has incest, that you should have to back it up. Isn't Misplaced Pages about FACT and ITEGRITY?

The page now has the real quote which is not much better but at least it does not say it about ALL AMERICANS and at least it's a real quote with a real source!

DUDE!! LOOK AT THE PAGE! PLEASE!!!

I've been stitched up majorly!!

YourCousin --86.29.116.209 19:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, It's no problem. I see you're not bright enough to follow the history. No problems. Like I have explained, there is no reputation. I noticed that when you edit the Anti American rhetoric out of the Jeremy Clarkson page that the Anti-American editors chase you down undoing your work, marking you articles for deletion and haveing you blocked for fictional violations. I would never affiliate my real username with nearly 2,000 edits with this mess. I went to battle with some people that were using the page for their own political purposes and I have succeeded. The fictional INCEST quote has been fixed. I have no beef anymore. I'm just watching all you busybodies having some good fun pretending to block me. You guys are soooo cool to hang out with. Thanks for the smug little comment WhisperTome... I'll think about the 'YourCousin' reputation tonight when I'm laughing myself to sleep. You're a disgrace to Texans everywhere. But then Houston is a bit like L.A. isn't it?

YourCousin--86.29.118.28 20:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC) --86.29.118.28 20:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Ha Ha ha... he everybody its NTL!! hahahaa!!! I am on TESCO... it is run by NTL a huge COMMUNICATIONS company... I have 31 ISPs... 12 of them are run by NTL... My name is JASON SMITH I live in London... I am not hiding.. you want a phone call from me?

Here is my warning template... this is far more effective then your pretend BLOCKS... KEEP FUCKING WITH ME AND I WILL RUIN YOUR WIKI experience... I have a shit list thats itchin for your name to go on it. You harrass and bulyl me and my valid complaint and I will undo everything you do with my 31 ISPs and all of their ranges for the next few moths,,, I am bored... I'm in bed for the rest of my life basically. This will be good fun. So think hard cunt! Do I seem liek a bluffer? Have I bullshitted yet? You are in the wrong and I suggest you back the fuck off now!

YourCousin--81.174.214.220 20:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I just got your little threat about contacting my ISP... buddy this aint the states... this place is slooooooowww!!! you do your best!!

you think you can make more trouble for me than I can for you? let me know... I'll start tonight.

Let me know ASAP...

Silence will be considered as: "YES YOUR COUSIN, DELETE, UNDO and MARK MY ARTICLES FOR DELETION FOR MONTHS TO COME"

Try me little boy...

You wont like it.

Trace this IP now you cocksucker!

YourCousin --81.174.214.220 20:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok... I've just seen your remarks on the NOTICEBOARD...

YOU ARE OFFICALLY FUCKED.

Goodbye.

YourNightmare--86.29.125.157 21:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

When you wake up and discover your undone work, I want you to remember these little chats and the opportunity I gave you.

YourCousin--81.174.209.116 21:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

You're not very thorough for a genius are you? the IP that begins with 81 is not NTL. Try again goat roper.

YourNightmare

Request

Hi WhisperToMe,

Can you please help me with this user? I'm pretty sure he's the banned User:Rovoam, and now he's stalking my edits and reverting them. Can you block him or something? Thanks. —Khoikhoi 22:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again! —Khoikhoi 22:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

re:Naruto naming debate

Look, let's just agree to disagree. You're not going to change my mind, and it's very clear that I won't able to change yours. Let's just keep this on the debate page rather than cluttering up our talk pages. --NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 04:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about the whole Satoshi Tajiri thing.

Shanequinlan01

REPMART

The Repmart connection was made over 3 weeks ago. You are slow. You will never be a detective, never. I have never hidden who I am. My name is Jason. I am Jason Smith. I run over 15 websites for different people. Repmart is owned by a client of mine who I used to be in a band with. If you have been there you will see that it is funny audio. I only happened to use the email address because I needed one. You see REPMART and YourCousin and YourOtherCousin are all sock puppets of my real account which has no problems and nearly 2,000 edits.

Your crooked friend that you are sticking up for, Ryulong, tried to harrass me, initmidate me, revert everything I did. Now I am returning the favor.

you see young man, when you edit pages that politically motivated editors watch, you can get into trouble editing their work. Like if someone says that ALL AMERICANS HAVE INCEST which is what the argument was about. Lets say you think thats too controversial to say without having a SOURCE and you decide to delete it... well, Ryulong and his buddies chase you down and undo all of your work, they mark your articles for deletion and they have their admin friends block you for false crimes. This is why I cannot use my proper ID. I find this works very well. I have 31 different sets of ISPs... NTL run a few of em.. and eleventygadjillion ranges of IPs. If someone wants to invite me into their life then I'll play the games!! It's good fun.

If I make some contribution and someone reverts it, it doesnt really bother me... but when they message me saying "IM LAUGHING OUT LOUD" and then wikistalk me, I'm gonna fuck em up.

I know you have taken much interest in me and in return, now me in you... but what have you done? Told people that some of my IPs are with NTL? Repmart.com? I hear lots of stink from you but no substance... When are you gonna score a point of of me? I'm buring the shit out of you... Don't you care?

You're totally fizzled!

Anyway...

I made you a promise last night and you are definitely on my shit list... I just have a smaller fish to fry now.. so hang on!

GFYM--86.29.124.160 17:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

THREATS

I would ask Ryulong if I make threats. I'm taking a break now. Bored. His RFA is looking dire.

Westchase, Florida

Will you also let me add the same with Westchase, Houston, Texas. I did and it was reverted as "redundant" because Westchase, Florida is an unincorporated area west of Tampa. I believe that if it's listed here it should be listed in the Texas page. --Moreau36 03:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Cypress Woods HS

"*Weak Delete with no prejudice against future re-creation. — Only because the school is apparently not open yet and so doesn't meet my personal criteria for notability. But it's covered on the school district page, so that's good enough for now. :-) — RJH (talk) 16:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC) "

Cypress Woods is scheduled to open in a few weeks. WhisperToMe 05:47, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay thanks. But I can't imagine there would be much to say about the school for a few years. Perhaps it would be best to develop some information on the school district page until it can become a solid, stand-along article? — RJH (talk) 16:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

What we could do is turn Cypress Woods HS into a section of the Cy-Fair ISD page and then wait for information to accumulate before re-establishing the page. WhisperToMe 16:34, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes that makes perfect sense to me. The school district pages are usually much more resistant to deletion attempts, so they're a good place for accumulating brief school descriptions. — RJH (talk) 16:36, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Current TV show template

The template says that "This article is about a TV show", which is misleading when the article is also about a comic. My main point is that the template is horribly redundant tho, the lead section and/or the infobox tells the reader that it is a current TV show, there's just no point in having that big template. A better solution for this would be to nominate that template for deletion, which I'm going to do soon. --Conti|✉ 16:44, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Cheese

Hey man, well, news reports aren't the best place to get information on illegal drugs. Has the DEA written anything about this? - FrancisTyers · 21:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Southwood

How'd you know all that Southwood Middle information? Tamajared 23:50, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Saddam Hussein

We don't have to meet a quota for filling up space in long articles with images. If the photo is not of encyclopedic value to the particular section in which it is added, inserting any random propaganda shot of Saddam merely discourages editors from finding relevant and inserting photos, like the picture of him meeting Cuellar. 172 | Talk 05:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The Cullar image was removed in a fit of copyright paranoia, despite being a clear case of fair use... I'm a bit confused about your explanation of the relevance of the two propaganda images inserted in the section on the Gulf War. The images are propaganda shots created for Iraqi consumption to promote Saddam, not American consumption to villify Saddam. If the intent is to illustrate the reputation Saddam gained in the United States, something more directly related, such as a image featured frequently in American media (such as the times he was filmed meeting with U.S. captives) would be more appropriate. 172 | Talk 05:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I see your point; the images are interpreted in starkly different ways in different political cultural contexts. Still, I think it's a bit too abstract for the purposes of writing a basic encylopedic entry. I think we should re-upload the Cullar image, or find another more directly relevant image, for the section. 172 | Talk 05:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd prefer if they were not reinserted. The images would just serve to provoke an emotional response, while being of no informative value without clear contextualization. 172 | Talk 05:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Poe Elementary

oh, I did not notice the other article. Thanks Hmains 16:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Fan Fiction nominated for an Article Improvement Drive

Since you've edited fan fiction, I figured you'd want to know that the article has been nominated for an Article Improvement Drive. :) Runa27 23:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Johnny Knight sockpuppets

Hi there, I posted this message on Jaranda's talkpage but (s?)he is on Wikileave right now; you were one of the admins who had posted anything on the current page, so I decided to leave this with you. A user calling himself Johnny Knight and many variations thereof has been creating sockpuppets, some which attack Jaranda. He has already posted taunting messages on Jaranda's talkpage, and is back with a fresh pile of socks. Here is a list I found on the new users log:

• User:Wait a sec, JK needs to prove he is JK on WP:LTA, don't block
• User:Johnny Knight Will Quit if he is removed from WP:LTA
• User:Ya Rly, JK is 6 foot 7 and weighs 220 pounds
• User:The Sound of Johnny Knight Leaves Admins Quaking in Their Boots
• User:Johnny Knight is very Dangerous
• User:Johnny Knight Slays Admins and Pokémon
• User:JohnnyKnight'sManualSaysToKeepHimAwayFromAbortedFetuses
• User:DEAD FETUS
• User:ANENCEPHALIC DEAD FETUS
• User:JARANDA HAS MICROENCEPHALY
• User:JUST ANOTHER ANENCEPHALY.JPG VANDAL
• User:I kill retarded and deformed fetuses
• User:SPAM IS A PATENTED MIXTURE OF ABORTED FETUSES AND CRACK

It's ugly, but would you like to take care of this?

Cheers, — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • ER • 04:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply from Marhadiasa

Who is Tong Li?

HISD Admin bldg image

Hello, on the Houston, Texas article you replaced the Lamar HS image with one of the new HISD administration bldg. This is a good image, however it seems to be slightly out of focus. Would you have another image that is sharper and perhaps closer to the building? Thanks! Postoak 19:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, that will be great. Thank you. Postoak 19:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Megatokyo

You know, what's really going on is that you and I have totally different opinions, and that the official guidelines are going to be no help in figuring out what should really be done. I am not right, and neither are you--we need to discuss this on the merits of what would serve the article, not who's the best at following the rules. Express your viewpoint on the talk page, and maybe we and everyone else can reach a consensus on what to do. But don't just keep parroting the same thing about the style guide, because I understand you perfectly and just don't agree. Time for a different approach. (And not in my talk page.) --Masamage 17:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Megatokyo naming conventions

I do see the issue, yes, but I think the footnote is adequate to address it (especially when the alternate order is also written next to the Japanese spelling). Honestly, I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill here, and I want to see the article featured. --L33tminion (talk) 20:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: MT

I already saw your comments in the MT talk page.

Quite frankly, I don't care to discuss proper usage of the phrase "your opinion." I don't know where you got the idea that you get to dictate my use of the language.

You're using an ambiguity in the rules to support your point. Using actual rules is a matter of right and wrong--using gaps in them is a matter of opinion.

Any more than that, I have no time or patience to have an argument of semantics. I don't want to talk to you about this or anything else, and I'll thank you to keep the dicussion in the Talk:Megatokyo page and completely on topic. --Masamage 23:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Another naming convention problem

ChaosSorcerer91 insists on moving the Yugi Mutou article to Yugi Muto because of how it's spelled in the anime. I tried explaining the whole manga naming thing, but he's not paying attention. We've already moved and removed the article about 3 times now. The Splendiferous Gegiford 18:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

All right, thanks. He's also trying to debate if Atem's English dub name is actually spelled "Atemu" with a silent "u", but Drake Clawfang and I have said to wait until it's spelled out in the manga. -The Splendiferous Gegiford 18:56, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hooray, more naming problems. -_- This time on the Yu-Gi-Oh! GX media and release information page. Just read the comments in the history page and tell me if that makes any sense to you. The Splendiferous Gegiford 17:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

M-DCPS Link

Hey, the link you just added to M-DCPS only works on internet explorer, apparently. Should we put a disclaimer on it, or just remove it completely? -- SmthManly / / 22:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Shelley Sekula-Gibbs, Houston City Council member and candidate for Congress from Houston/Sugar Land

Please review the debate on this article for deletion and provide your opinion please: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Shelley Sekula-Gibbs. Thank you. --Getaway 22:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for voting.--Getaway 17:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries

You know Misplaced Pages has that edit summary field for a reason, right? :) It'd be wonderful if you'd use it more often, especially considering how long you've been around here.--chris.lawson 03:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Comair Flight 191

No, Delta doesn't disagree -- Delta simply included that information to allay the general public's fear that any crash must be due to parts falling off the plane. In reality, very few (I can't cite a figure at the moment as my copy of the Nall Report is on the desk at work) aircraft accidents are due to maintenance issues, and until the NTSB decides that maintenance issues are relevant to this accident, I don't see why we should confuse the issue by saying what didn't cause it. Terrorism didn't cause it, either. Neither did a rabid badger attacking the flight crew. I don't see either of those possibilities mentioned in the article. ;) --chris.lawson 04:30, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Comair image

Can you supply anymore info to back up "He has agreed to license it under GNU specifically for Misplaced Pages" for Image:StuartN431CA.jpg? Perhaps a copy of the email on the talk page (with personal details removed)? Remember that a GNU licence allows other sites, not just Misplaced Pages to use the image as they please - is the photographer aware of this? Thanks/wangi 22:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi there - I emailed Stuart and explained the consequences of releasing the photo under GFDL. After reading them he decided not to release the photo under GFDL (I can fwd on the email if you want). I have speedy deleted the photo. Thanks/wangi 14:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I never asked, given that copyright-but-wikipedia-can-use is deprecated... Probably more worthwhile to drop a note to Hawaiian717, from the talk page:

":Definitely not either of those. Lufthansa is the wrong airline. The SkyWest/United Express image is not only the wrong airline, but not even the right aircraft type (at least a CRJ-200 is nearly identical to a -100, the -700 is notably bigger). Obviously, the best option would be a photo of N431CA, but I don't have any of those. I do have a photo of a different Comair CRJ-100ER, N941CA I could upload. Will do that tonight if nothing better is proposed by then. Oh, and new topics are supposed to go at the bottom. ;) -- Hawaiian717 21:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)"

Thanks/wangi 21:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

School of the Woods

I moved it to the article page proper (it had been on the talk page). Make sure the admins who delete potential copyvios know it's out there ... sometimes they really don't bother to look. And save the text in case it does get deleted sight unseen. Daniel Case 02:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh boy, One Piece time.

I really think it's time for the One Piece articles to be cleaned up the same way the Naruto articles have been. I've already made a request about it in theAnime and Manga WikiProject. I really think one of the main things that needs to be done first is a formal page move discussion similar to Naruto Uzumaki's for Roronoa Zoro to finally settle that dispute once and for all. Would you be willing to help in this? There's also this too. The Splendiferous Gegiford 05:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. There have been a few other manga naming preferences I've been trying to find too. Namely, "Gin" or "Ghin", "Loguetown" or "Roguetown", and what translation Viz used for the Seven Warlords of the Sea/Shichibukai/whatever. The Splendiferous Gegiford 22:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I started the move request/discussion. Are you gonna participate in it? The Splendiferous Gegiford 21:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

It's at Talk:Roronoa Zoro The Splendiferous Gegiford 22:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

It's really best if you participate in the discussion too, just so it'll seem like I've got more people on my side other than ones just posting in the Survey. The Splendiferous Gegiford 17:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Actualy, what you cited actualy states that it too, is a guideline. (Justyn 01:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC))

Like I said there, if it ment "use the Official english version no matter what", then that clause has no point in existance. It HAS to mean "fans determine the usage".

By the way, some of the name changes in the English versions go WAY before the dub - So I don't see in particular why people upset with the dub should be upset with them in particular. WhisperToMe 02:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I can tell you this; I am upset with ANY name changes, because they were not the names given by Oda. Changing names to fit in with linguistic limitations is one thing, but changing the name because they want to is completely different. (Justyn 03:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC))

Belli/Berries/Berri

Oda has written it as both "Berri" and "Belli" on the currency in the manga. "Belli" is one of the native official terms, and is used more (turns up more results, look at what I put in the talk page). Even Kaizoku-Fansubs uses Beli (with one "L"). (Justyn 02:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC))

Berries shows very few hits related to One Piece, and is not used by many fans at all. Whereas Belli and Berri show all results related to One Piece, and in fact, at least ten times as many. I'll add up the evidence:

Berries

• Used by English publications.

Belli/Berri

• Oda has actualy writen it out in English letters as both "Berri" and "Belli".
• Both get more RELEVENT hits relating to One Piece, and "Belli" recieves more then "Berri".

(Justyn 03:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC))

Misplaced Pages's guidelines say that if the native official version is more used, use the original version. Your oppinion on what Misplaced Pages should use is different then what WIKIPEDIA says Misplaced Pages should use, and that means that you are wrong.

Using "Atemu" was Engrish. I agree with you there, but it's OFF TOPIC.

And even with all of the variations, we can be sure that Oda has never actualy actualy written it as "Berries" or "Berry". (Justyn 04:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC))

I forgot what MOS is. And I already SAID that the English publications use "Berries", but Oda never wrote it. (Justyn 04:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC))

Thanks (Justyn 04:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC))

Fish-Men/Fishmen

If you mean the "Shichibukai" thing, then it's because the page itself uses "Shichibukai", almost all of the One Piece pages use "Shichibukai", the guidelines on the matter say "Shichibukai" should be used.

If it's changing "Fish-men" to "Fishmen", it's because there is a suttle difference in the meanings.

And I think the hyphen looks a bit awkward here, mostly dealing with how in makes the word pronounced. (Justyn 01:01, 29 September 2006 (UTC))

First, check the history (). I was not the one who ACTUALY moved the page, the page was officialy moved via the use of a requested move, by an admin. And if I jumped the gun a little, I'm sorry. But there was noone argueing against the move, heck, it even looks like you supported it. (Justyn 01:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC))

Who objected to it? It looked like you even supported the move, and Geg was neutral. Noone who posted actualy said that they objected to the move, the fact that you never posted in support of keeping the page was your choice. You had your chance to voice your oppinion, and you did not use it, you can bring up a move, but it will be shot down P.D.Q.. You need a stronger case then "The english version says:" and "My oppinion is:" to move the page. (Justyn 02:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC))

You never said that you opposed it before now, Geg didn't either. (Justyn 03:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC))

I suggest that you stop putting emoticons at the end of your posts, it makes you come off as arogent.

And there is a difference of changing your own work from one langauge to another, versus someone else changing the name just because they want to. And I admit, this is slightly more relevent then I first assumed, but still is not very relevent. This is becuase One Piece is also owned by Oda, who is the person who actualy MAKES the manga, whereas the Nintendo ones are owned entirely by Nintendo. (Justyn 20:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC))

TfD nomination of Template:Los Angeles USD

For the reasons that I stated at Template talk:Los Angeles USD, Template:Los Angeles USD has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. 20:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Dividing it by district still averages 130 schools, which I think is still way too large for a navigation template, and I also don't think would be any more useful than the larger template. This is a good example of where a list is much more useful. The list of LAUSD schools should be broken out into their own article, with the woefully inadequate LAUSD article expanded to reflect it's importance as the 2nd largest school district in the US, and to be able to properly cover some of the controversies over the school district. 21:07, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Bleach

Well, the first time I ever watched Bleach was the dub premiere last Saturday, so I don't know how much help I'd be in editing the articles. The Splendiferous Gegiford 21:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

RE Riki Takeuchi redirects

No problem on that. Thanks for just doing it. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 21:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:ANIME policy?

WP:ANIME's statements are derived from the two existing guidelines, Use English, which states "If a native spelling uses different letters than the most common English spelling (eg, Wien vs. Vienna), only use the native spelling as an article title if it is more commonly used in English than the anglicized form."

WP:MOS-JP reaffirms this principle, with its ". An English loan word or place name with a Japanese origin should be used in its most commonly used English form in the body of an article, even if it is pronounced or spelled differently from the properly romanized Japanese."

All the official policies give a caveat for more common usage. Zoro is at its proper location. --tjstrf 02:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the Going Merry name change, yes, I do have objections, for the same reason Zoro was not moved, and the same reason I'm supporting the move to "Shichibukai". Also, the reasoning given in my summary is in the discussion page. Lordshmeckie 02:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of what you feel is best for the "Average Joe", the policy is what it is, no matter what technicalities you want to use. The "Average Joe" will hardly be as confused as you seem to think they will, considering the "Average Joe" can easily see all the (referred to as ______ in the English adaptations), as well as the fact that their search will be redirected. Most casual One Piece fans not aware of the original version will probably already notice a glaring amount of changes beyond names, anyway (i.e. plot points and deaths), so the terms "Shichibukai" and what have you will be the least of their suprises.

Regardless of how you feel about the names and fanbase, the policy is what it is. Lordshmeckie 03:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Your arguments are grossly flawed, for a few reasons. One, your examples were terrible, as "Pokemon" is a FAR more used term by English speakers than "Pocket Monsters", while the altered One Piece terms are not. Going with that, Pocket Monsters was changed to Pokemon by the creator(s) of the franchise (Nintendo), while the One Piece changes were done by an outside source (Viz and 4Kids). Also, for whatever reason, you seem to believe this policy means that every Japanese name ever must be used over the English one. Paying attention to the argument of the other side reveals that this is a matter of a more commonly used name, and the other side has been able to produce a great deal of evidence that the original terms are, indeed, more used than the adaptations. In fact, one could argue that the majority of fans of the series use, and are more familiar with, the Japanese terms. This is factoring in dub only fans vs. sub fans, as well. Also, one could argue that the information is more accurate when using the the original names of people and places allocated by the author, and creator of said people and places. The reasoning is there in bulk. Why you seem so dedicated to this "cause", when its primary supporters are you and one other guy, is beyond me. Lordshmeckie 03:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

How do you know that all English-speakers generally prefer the fan base terms? That's very hard to prove. Google hits only show website put up by hardcore fans. And those websites came first, so they were listed first.

I can understand if "Zoro" is more well-known, because officially it did come first. But with the others... not really.

What you said was directly contradicted by the outcome of the Naruto naming order dispute. The editors chose to use the Western order, something seen in the dub TV show and the English-language spinoff novels, instead of the Japanese order used by the internet fan base. WhisperToMe 03:40, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Another flawed argument, as there is a MASSIVE difference between the arrangement of a given name and family name, and the complete alteration of a name or term. Name order is one thing, but when a name is completely changed, that's a whole different story. Also, I never said "all" speakers prefer it. Please read what I say. And, again, you try to write off proof backing the name changes as the acts of "hardcore fans" (most of which are not "hardcore" by any means, but simply preferring the original terms, or just unaware of 4Kids' changes in some cases), but again, the policy is what it is, no matter how much disdain you appear to have towards the series' fanbase. The Japanese terms are more popular and more used, so they qualify. Lordshmeckie 03:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The underlying principle is the same. See, Naruto's naming order issue does not technically fall under the MOS because Naruto is a manga (and features fictional characters) and because Naruto is not set in modern-day Japan.

So, how did we come up with this decision to choose Western order? EASY! "We" chose that based on what "we" thought was more commonly used. Did the "Oh, the long time fans" excuse work here? Nope. Read the talk pages of the dispute, and you will know what I mean.

Misplaced Pages cannot have a double standard in place, Lordshmeckie. WhisperToMe 04:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

You seem to pick-and-choose what helps your points, ignoring what counters it. The underlying principle is not the same, actually, because, as I said, this is given-name-family-name vs. a complete name change, which is far more likely to confuse people, convolute matters, and simply cause information to be distored, in a sense. Also, the actions of some "we" don't concern me. I'm a man of facts, and the facts show that the Japanese names are more used in general, according to Google, than the English ones. There is no double standard; the One Piece sections are (barring any changes you or Geg make) following Misplaced Pages's naming policy, and that's that. As unhappy about it as you may be, the Japanese terms are more commonly used, and proof has already been given by others besides myself.

And, if I'm not mistaken, the Naruto section does use the actual translation of the "jutsu"s over the names given in the English adaptations, so using the Naruto section to further your argument doesn't help. Lordshmeckie 04:26, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

You seem to believe that because you've edited information on Misplaced Pages longer than other seemingly makes you right. I certainly hope I'm misunderstanding you, because that kind of viewpoint is elitist, and downright laughable. In any case, I'll state it again, for the hundredth time; the policy says to use the most commonly used version of a name, official English or otherwise. I tha snothing to do with picking everything Japanese; for example, Mr. 2 Bon Clay is used over Mr. 2 Bon Kurei, even though the latter is his official romanization. Why? Because Bon Clay is the more familiar, and commonly used, name. And if you're so in touch with Misplaced Pages's audience, and the average joe, or whatever else you claim, than I certainly look forward to you going over EVERY anime series section, and changing everything in them to match all English adaptations.

How would I do it? The way it's done now (save the changes made by you and the more "enlightened" veterens, or whatever you're trying to sell me). Most commonly accepted romanizations used, regardless of what Viz or 4Kids or anyone else uses. If there's a dispute, prove which one is either most used, or in extenuating circumstances, more accurate (in case of a mistranslation or what have you). It doesn't matter what you choose to acknowledge, or what loopholes you ro anyone else may try to use, or whatever internet seniority you may have, the policy states what it states, and if it can be proven that one term is used and/or recognzied far more than the other (i.e. search engines, etc.) than the more recognized name should be used.

Frankly, as I've said before, your "crusade" to change everything to suit English adaptation alterations is quite baffling. There really was no problems before; most familiar names used, with other names for clarification (i.e. the mention that Zoro is called Zolo in the English adaptations, or that Oda ramanized Bon Clay's name as Bon Kurei). The only way I could see it getting absurd is if Japanese terminology got out of hand, and began to clutter up the pages (i.e. One Piece fans integrating "nakama" into the articles), but attack and character names hardly constitute this. Lordshmeckie 07:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

United ISD

Well several UISD elementary and middle schools reside in the inner portion of town, so it's up to the City of Laredo Aerial Department to verify this information. I'll request information and have it finalized.

Edit: The image shown above shows the areas that each district serves for the city. It might be probably true that UISD serves outer portions... but let's just say that in the end it serves all of Laredo and Webb County ;)

By the way, I do live in Laredo.

Silver Spring

OK, thanks for the explanation. Bolivian Unicyclist 11:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I've contacted you about this before, but I just wanted to say that I'm sorry for blanking your template earlier (and the comment that went along with the school edits). I wasn't very sure of the standard Wiki procedure because I really only edit my school's Wiki (Los Angeles Center for Enriched Studies), and later could not find how to suggest a template for deletion (and I figured that you could always just get the template back anyways from a previous edit). I think I was just a bit annoyed because most of the time the template was bigger than the school's Wiki entry, and yet wasn't all-inclusive, and was from someone outside LAUSD (although in reality that shouldn't matter at all, especially not on Misplaced Pages). But that gave me absolutely no right to blank your template, so I just wanted to tell you that I'm sorry for that. Thank you for being pretty well tempered with me on this. ^_^ Take care.

(And I was looking for a way in which to contact you more privately, but this was what I found, so if there is a better way, please tell me ^_^;)

Houston Portal

Yeah i caught that-- i took off my tag.--Twintone 23:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey there, I added some content to the portal. Hope this is OK. Thanks Postoak 08:58, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

WhisperToMe, I'm trying to get the Houston flag "Us-tx-hu.png" as the image associated with the Houston portal link. I couldn't get it to work. Any ideas? Thanks Postoak 01:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I've noticed

It's all because they changed the wording on one of the rules on WP:ANIME. But basically, I've gotten tired of dealing with One Piece fanboys who worship a manga-ka as their One True God. The Splendiferous Gegiford 03:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Now some of them have decided to go around and change "belli" to "belly". Honestly, I don't understand these kids. The Splendiferous Gegiford 15:56, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

KISD controversey

It is a notable controversy the student body is angry at the suppression of information. The image proeved the districts policy. Andman8 17:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

this along with 500,000 other articles no not have sources, but unsourced statement do not mean they are false. Andman8 21:16, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Shueisha

Don't talk on my page ever again. There was no need to tell me about any errors; just fix the article in question and we're cool. Thanks. 68.189.82.81 00:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

One Piece Talk

Let me finish my opinions with a signature before you add yours.

And yes the fruits are called Devil fruits in the manga. However, not all of the fruits 4kids uses are called Devil Fruits. It's only a presumption that they will all be called Devil fruits. The proof is the Smoke Smoke Fruit, its Plume Plume fruit in the manga. While its not sure if Viz will use other names, its not sure either if they will use all 4kids names.CalicoD.Sparrow 01:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Dallas and Plano Templates

Sorry about that. Thanks for fixing it. --Longhornsg 03:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Innocent Children

Just because the media has reported personal information about innocent children doesn't mean that it is right and that it needs to be repeated on wikipedia. Misplaced Pages has many more visitors than any newspapers web-site. I would really appreciate it if you do not add their personal information again and I am sure that I am not the only person that feels this way. Others have removed other personal information about his family. If someone in your family had done something like this would you like your place of work or residence published on the internet? I think not. Dincher 23:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Besides the human aspect of this article and the obvious emotions that arise from it, I think we should think about the "encyclopedia" aspects of this situation. I don't think that the information about where Roberts children go to school is relevant in the context of important facts about this situation. Maybe this detail is important for the short term, but twenty or thirty years from now when this story is revisited will it be relevant then? Will somebody really care to know the name of his children's Elementary School? No. They will just want to know who Roberts was, what he did, and why he did it. Dincher 04:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Macronisation

Kyushu and Kyūshū are the same word, although probably only the unmacronised version appears in the dictionary, as you pointed out. The issue is whether or not to use the macronised version on Misplaced Pages. The WP:MOS-JP indicates that for very common Japanese words, the unmacronised version should be used (eg. Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto) but for less common words, the macronised version should be used to aide pronunciation (eg. Tesshō Genda, Ōita Prefecture). Note that you will also find Oita in the MW dictionary. The survey over at the MOS page is more about where to draw the line between common and non-common. Bobo12345 05:23, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Yu Yu Hakusho

You posted something on my talk page about YYH quite a while ago, and I just got it. (Sorry.) But I'm confused about what you meant. Could you elaborate? Plus±Minus 17:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Ridership Data for Houston

Consult List of United States light rails sytems by ridership and its references for data that Houston's METRORail is the eleventh most ridden US system.

Mr. Hands

We're not censored in general, but this is content that's illegal in many jurisdictions, probably including Florida. We wouldn't link to images of child pornography, because it's illegal, and bestiality porn is also illegal. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 03:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Names

Actually, yes. Referring you back to your Misplaced Pages:Manual_of_Style_for_Japan-related_articles, I quote:

Macron usage in the name of a modern figure should adhere to the following, in order of preference:

      1. Use the official trade name if available in English/Latin alphabet;
      2. Use the form found in a dictionary entry from a generally-accepted English dictionary;
      3. Use the form publicly used on behalf of the person in the English-speaking world;
      4. Use the form publicly used on behalf of the person in any other popular Latin-alphabet-using language (French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, German, and Dutch, or variations); or
      5. If none of the above is available, use the macronned form.

• 1. The offical name is recorded in a koseki and does not have a Latin spelling.
• 2. The name does not appear in any of my many English dictionaries.
• 3. There are multiple forms used by the English-speaking world.
• 4. No idea about other languages, but en-US and en-JP accept the macron (as well as the non-macron) version.
• 5. Last option, use macrons.

By the way, the example Jun'ichirō Koizumi fails their guide. From #1 you get the macron version. I can not think of a single example where option 5 would not be chosen.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendono (talk • contribs)

In step #3, it's "Junichiro Koizumi" in English. Therefore, it stops at step #3, and step #5 doesn't matter.--Endroit 08:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

It does not stop at step 3. In public and in English, _both_ forms are used so a decision can not be made. Therefore you next go to step 4. Again, both are used. So, you go to 5. I can not think of a single example of a Japanese name that would not eventually make it's way to step 5. Bendono 08:31, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The Japanese prime minister's office does NOT use macrons, neither form Shinzo Abe nor for Junichiro Koizumi. This is the official spelling. If you want to introduce an alternate spelling, cite your source, please. If the official spelling is generally accepted in English, it DOES stop at step #3. Otherwise, it's the Japanese prime minister's office vs. Bendono. Go figure.--Endroit 08:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The usage of the prime minister's office does not make it official. The only official name is written in Abe's koseki, which does not include a romanized spelling. His passport should include a romanized spelling. However, Japanese passports are not issued with diacritics. The person must ignore the length difference or may use an 'h'. I have two friends named Ōta. One went with Ohta, while the other went with Ota. Personal spellings are still not official. Both people are technically Ōta. It seems that living people typically do not want diacritics in their name, something that I can understand.

What is your criteria to determine "if the official spelling is generally accept in English"? I do not accept the spelling Shinzo or Junichiro. And I read texts that appropriately use the macron (as well as texts that do not). Bendono 08:56, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm still waiting for your citation of some sources. Prove to everyone that the macroned spelling is in widespread use by providing a link to some prominent websites. See WP:V on how it's done. Otherwise, your arguments are quite meaningless in Misplaced Pages.--Endroit 09:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I am still waiting to your criteria to determine the generally accepted English. I never said "widespread use". In fact, I think it would be strange if it was in widespread use. People generally do not want to type extra diacritics. And I know some publishers have a no diacritic policy. I do not think it will ever be in widespread use. It is interesting how you pass the burden of proof to me. On my way home I can try to take some pictures of train station signs which include macrons. For current events such as Shinzō Abe, I read the newspaper in Japanese, so that will not help. I'll see what I can do, though. I should have some books that write Tōkyō as well. When I worked as a J-E translator, I recall a book called SWET Style Guide. I do not have it with me so I can not quote anything, but it contains a section on macrons. Basically, you should use macrons when possible. Bendono 09:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like "Shinzo Abe" is generally accepted without the macrons, to me....

• Official website of Prime Minister of Japan and His Cabinet "Policy Speech by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to the 165th Session of the Diet" Sept. 29, 2006
• BBC News "Profile: Shinzo Abe" Sept. 26, 2006
• CNN.com "New Japan PM vows strong China ties" Sept. 27, 2006
• New York Times "Shinzo Abe’s Asian Challenge" Sept. 27, 2006
• TIME Asia Edition "The Abe Enigma" Sept. 11, 2006
• Daily Yomiuri Online "The many faces of Shinzo Abe" Sept. 22, 2006
• People's Daily Online "Shinzo Abe elected Japan's new prime minister" Sept. 26, 2006
• FoxNews.com "Japan's New PM Shinzo Abe Agrees to Meet Bush in November" Sept. 27, 2006
• Mainichi Daily News / MSN.co.jp "Shinzo Abe, the good, the bad and the ugly" Oct. 10, 2006

So where'd you find the macron in any of the Japanese prime ministers' names?--Endroit 10:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you know the editorial policy for those newspapers? I suspect that many have a no-macron policy.

A quick Google search immediately shows examples of "Shinzō Abe":

• United States House of Representatives
• Journal of Japanese Studies
• USC: Political Science
• The Lonely Planet

How about location names? They are much easier to find. I picked up the official map for the Tōkyū lines. There are plenty of examples with macrons illustrating the same issues. I do not have a scanner, but I can try to take a good picture if desired. I can also provide pictures from a few books. I not want to waste my time, so please let me know if you want to see these. Bendono 12:20, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The trend is NOT to use macrons in English, hence step 3 says don't use macrons. If you disagree, you should do a poll.--Endroit 15:21, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

That is a prescriptive argument. You have already made up your mind. In which case, why not remove every macron from all articles about Japan? At least be consistent. Bendono 15:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Obviously we disagree here, because I believe you are totally ignoring step #3 of the WP:MOS-JA process mentioned above. It's your word against mine here. Read up on WP:DR, which is official Misplaced Pages policy, and see what your options are in this case.--Endroit 15:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I have read both links several times now. Let me quote, yet again, step #3

• "Use the form publicly used on behalf of the person in the English-speaking world;"

As both of our above links show, publicly, both forms are used. Also, all links were written in English. You counter that by saying "The trend is NOT to use macrons". That is not what step #3 says though. Assuming for the momenet that is the trend, it is a prescriptive one, not descriptive. That means that the issue has been decided upon by whatever grounds and no new information or arguments will be heard.

As for resolving the issue, it may need mediation in the end. The issue is far too important to me to give up on. I have voiced my opinions on the MoS talk page. Bendono 16:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Shiroiwa Junior High School

Because it serves as valid redirect? Creating redirects isn't something that AfD needs to be muddled with. Interrobamf 04:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

No. You put articles on AfD if you want them deleted. Hence the name. "Consider making the page a useful redirect or proposing it be merged rather than deleted. Neither of these actions requires an AfD." Interrobamf 12:37, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Your user page

Hi. I came across this on your user page:

<Demi> Just as the Eskimos have 49 words for snow, the Japanese have 120 terms for old people stabbing each other over minor slights.

Note: See http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060616p2a00m0na012000c.html

<ViciousGuy> Do any of you know of someone who was in a 7-11 when it was robbed? <deepshuck> or a 9-11 when it was WTCed

I think it is unencyclopedic, does not contribute to our purpose in this project, and may give offence to people. Would you care to remove it please? The link seems to be dead too. Thanks in advance. --Guinnog 05:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I suggest you review Misplaced Pages:User page; the content I highlighted is in breach of policy. I was being polite in asking you to remove it yourself rather than just taking it down for you.

To quote Jimmy Wales, "libelling people on userpages is a bad idea, and in fact, using userpages to attack people or campaign for or against anything or anyone is a bad idea".

Other relevant parts:

"If the community lets you know that they would rather you deleted some or other content from your user space, you should probably do so, at least for now - such content is only permitted with the consent of the community."

"If you do not cooperate, we will eventually simply remove inappropriate content, either by editing the page (if only part of it is inappropriate)..."

9/11 is a sensitive issue as I am sure you will understand, and the joke about it will cause offence to many people. The joke about Japanese people killing each other is also clearly inappropriate in my view.

Please take it down. Thanks. --Guinnog 05:12, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's "just a quote collection from IRC". That's why it doesn't belong on Misplaced Pages. Please take it down. --Guinnog 05:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining where it came from. I am less clear about why it belongs on an encyclopedia editor's user page. What purpose does it serve in terms of the project? --Guinnog 05:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Guinnog asked me to look at the userpage quote and I would prefer if you take it down. I can't see what purpose it serves. Thanks.--MONGO 06:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Guinnog and Mongo, please remove those quotes from your userpage. They are not contributing to the encyclopedia or the construction of it, and I can easily see why some would take offense. As a New Yorker myself I think the WTC "joke" is not funny and in bad taste. Thanks, Gwernol 22:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for removing it. --Guinnog 23:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

User pages are not about taste, Gwernol. For every New Yorker like yourself who finds it tasteless (let's assume that is at all relevant), you can find another like myself who doesn't mind it. I'd also point out to Guinnog that you shouldn't misrepresent Misplaced Pages:User page as policy when it is only a guideline, and that that Wales quote is irrelevant here. --Gwern (contribs) 03:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Where are there fansubs on arlongpark? There are offsite links there to untranslated chapters. There's no material being hosted that is significantly more copyright-restricted than on other linked fan sites. Please enlighten.

Re: Kinkaid School vandalism

Re your message: Why am I not surprised? With school back in session, all the high school vandals are showing up. Apparently, nobody from Kinkaid edits Misplaced Pages because St. John's didn't get much of the attack vandalism like Kinkaid did. Looks like everything has settled down (that semi-protect helped, I'm sure). -- Gogo Dodo 02:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

User talk:68.189.255.6

This user wants you to take a look at his block. Mangojuice 13:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

If you want to implement it, go ahead, but I think you should insist on him registering a username. But it was clear to me it was the same guy, waiting for his 3 days to be up so he could vandalize some more: I had figured your >= 3 days suggestion was to make sure the IP changed over to someone else before we unblocked. Mangojuice 12:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Takuma Aoi

I've created an article for Takuma Aoi (BRII). Go check it out, and fill the sections! ;) I'll provide more screenshots in the meanwhile. --Henrickson 01:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Episcopal High School

Thanks for pointing that out. Definitely feel free to re-add it. There was just so much vandalism to revert, that I reverted back pretty far. I probably just didn't notice that some legit content had been added in the middle of all of that vandalism. Thanks for being on top of that. Mwelch 23:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Mewtwo4

Can you help me and Drake on this case because he keeps taking out the card lists in Taken by Storm, Part 1. Glenn Browne 22:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Kinkaid School

Disappointing that it got interest again so soon after unprotection. It's history prior to protection suggests it is normally no more exciting than any other school article. Maybe someone was watching, or maybe we just got unlucky today. If you reckon the vandalism is beyond what can readily be handled, then I guess protecting it will have to be done. It's still worth seeing if/for how long it can be unprotected though. A locked-down article doesn't say much for the wiki concept to the school kids/staff who might come across it. -Splash - tk 23:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Ick, it's been very busy by the looks of it. Some silly inter-school slanging match, I guess. Interesting to see what your email turns up... -Splash - tk 19:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding "Liberty"

Realistically, he needs a "time out." Seriously, why does one need to get so worked up over a bloody article? I can understand if he is upset over a possible bias or what have you, but there is no need to go after an editor if they revert their changes if the edits are in violation of WP policy. If he is so familiar with WP, he'd understand that I only did one revert to his changes, and any subsequent changes besides what has been made in my own user page and talk page have been made by others.

Do I feel that he should be unblocked? Not right now, no. Can he be allowed to return? Why not? If he contributes in a manner constructive and in accordance to WP policies, then by all means. :: Colin Keigher 04:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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Houston portal

Please visit Misplaced Pages:Featured portal candidates if you have the time. You do know that you got me hooked on this thing..lol. I nominated Portal:Houston and would appreciate your feedback. Thank you, Postoak 04:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Your message

Dear WhisperToMe, I found your message in my talk page. Sorry, I didnt understand, what you mean with MOTL? Please explain it. Regards. Mustafa Akalp 11:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

204.108.250.222

It's true, but as a graduate of said high school, I've personally verified that that's the IP for pretty much every computer that students have access to. --Goobergunch|? 06:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Houston Project

I noted the Houston portal indicates that one of the things on it's "to do" list is to establish a Houston WikiProject. Have you considered listing a proposed project at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject/List of proposed projects? Also, I think there is an automatic "basic" project generator at User:Aguerriero/Proposal you could use to get a provisional project page going. I wouldn't be able to really contribute much, knowing nothing about either Texas or Houston, but I do believe it would be a good idea. Good luck in any event. :) Badbilltucker 16:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Keiko Onuki/Inoue

I have looked through the Manga to see if the name “Inoue” is used. I can not see it anywhere in the dialogue. It might be mentioned somewhere in the artwork though. Really though if you want my opinion, the name Keiko Inoue should just be ignored, Onuki is specified in the novel and unless a character has been specifically changed and had a personality change (such as Sakamochi and Kamon) we should just stick to the novel. Compared to Keiko’s actions and effect on Kawada, whether the manga changed her name a little or not is trivial. But that's just my opinion and not the point. The point is I myself have not seen that name mentioned. Urrgh5591 18:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

In answer to your last question, No I did not read the Japanese version. I can not read Japanese. But basically all I was saying was I just went through it because I could not rember it being specified and I could not find it. I just thought you should know. Urrgh5591 10:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok in that case it probably is, leave it, I just did not see it. Urrgh5591 17:00, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Haverford Middle School

(Copied from my talk page for your convenience. -S.)

1. The middle school shared a campus with the high school when it began in the 1930s.. then the high school got its own campus in the 1950s.

2. Now that the school district article exists, there are two options for HMS - Either keep it as is, or redirect to the district article. WhisperToMe 05:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I read the school district history... what troubles me is the lack of reliable outside sources, which are necessary in order to expand the article beyond basic name/location/demographics. I'm not sure whether a merge would help there, but I'll admit I hadn't thought to research the district itself, so you may be on to something. Unfortunately, I won't have access to Lexis-Nexis for a little while, but I'll make a note to see whether I can find anything online. Thanks. Shimeru 05:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, I've seen some of your changes to the other middle school articles, and I must say I'm impressed. You do quite a good job of expanding the articles, considering the only real information available is from the schools themselves. My philosophy regarding what makes for a suitable encyclopedia article may not match yours, but I respect your work. Shimeru 05:37, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

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