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Welcome!

Hello, KazakhPol, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Academic Challenger 23:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The style of references seems fine. Someone who is really an expert on formatting references, which I am not, may eventually change the format, but generally it does not matter. As for your articles, I recommend that you try expanding them a little before creating more new ones. One problem is that the positions of these people may change periodically, so I hope that you continue to contribute so that you can update all these articles, as Central Asian politics is not one of our most active areas. Academic Challenger 00:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, I don't think that all of your pages necessarily need to have 10 references, but if you add new information then there should be more references. These people are definitely notable and I am glad you are here to add more information about Kazakhstan. My only concern is that when the cabinet gets reshuffled, you may be the only person who is paying attention enough to update the articles. But I am sure there is a good solution for that. Keep up the good contributions. Academic Challenger 00:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

That's becoming a great article! Here are some things to work on. The articles should be in the category Kazakhstani politicians. They can remain in the Government of Kazakhstan category for as long as they are in the cabinet, and when they are no longer in the cabinet they can be removed from that category but they will still be in the Politicians category. Also, most of your articles have no other pages linking to them, which is important in Misplaced Pages. Perhaps there could be a template for the cabinet of Kazakhstan which could allow all of the cabinet members' pages to link to each other. But for now at least they are all in the same category. I will try to help with these projects this weekend. Academic Challenger 05:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Kazakh pages

Thank you for invitation. I am not a specialist on Kazakhstan. As I am more interested about energy issues, my changes were related only to the KazMunayGas company.Beagel 17:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Template

That's a good template. Academic Challenger 18:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion

People who are interested in voting go through the list of nominations. In fact, several people just voted in the last few minutes. Academic Challenger 03:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes you can. Academic Challenger 03:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Deletion

Next time try not to afd a front page news update. -Sidar 03:51, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Eh, it was done with all good intentions. (Not that I can disagree.) --Kizor 03:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

If you're watching Fox news, you will see that I now seem to be right. The test was - according to Fox news speculation - unsuccessful. The seismic test indicates it failed, if it was a nuclear test at all. This is Misplaced Pages acting as a crystal ball. I say, leave that to the mainstream media. Until independent confirmation says the test was nuclear, the page should not exist. KazakhPol 04:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm on the wrong continent to watch Fox News. Anyway, the article doesn't say that North Korea tested a nuke - it's reporting what other news sources say. We're making quotes, not predictions. And regardless of the actual test, the claim and the media frenzy are most definitely noteworthy events. --Kizor 04:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Foreign minister of Kyrgyzstan

You created the article Alikbek Jershenkulov but there is an older article, Alikbek Jekshenkulov about the same person. Could you add the information from your article into the older article, which has many pages linking to it? Or is the older article under an incorrect name? Anyway they definitely need to be merged. Academic Challenger 04:00, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. For a lot of useful pages, try Misplaced Pages:Community portal. Academic Challenger 04:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Iran Freedom and Support Act

I reverted your revisions to a much earlier version of the article. Between my edits and your edits, a third editor made significant contributions and did not properly source his statements. I understand that why his claims were removed. However, the parts I wrote are supported by the links provided. The current version (also the old version) makes four statements: the act directs the president to provide financial assistance to pro-democracy groups; supporters hailed the act; critics claimed it was the first step towards war; the act prohibits the use of military force. Here are sources for the claims, all of which were already provided:

Financing democracy - Section 303 of the act states:

The President is authorized, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to provide financial and political assistance (including the award of grants) to foreign and domestic individuals, organizations, and entities that support democracy and the promotion of democracy in Iran.

Supporters hailed the act... - This should be self-supporting. The supporters of the act (all but 21 people in the house) obviously liked the bill, and democracy promotion was clearly their stated aim (I do not know if that was their real aim).

Critics claimed it was the first step towards war - The article by Cindy Sheehan states as follows (and clearly implies that she, as a critics, believes this to be the first step towards war):

...he is warning Iran that if it doesn't shape up the US is going to come and impose freedom and democracy on that country. The rah-rah, "yes, sir" Congress who has an easy job of approving everything that George Bush does, thereby eliminating critical thinking, debate, or any semblance of rational discussion has voted for sanctions that will lead to an attack on Iran which will be devastating for our troops in Iraq and for that poor region that had the unfortunate luck to be built upon tremendous oil and natural gas reserves. Only 21 Congress people voted "nay" on the Iran Freedom Support Act which is incredible considering what happened when they voted "yea" to give George Bush the green light for every sanction against Iraq and to invade it.

The act prohibits military action... - The link to the text provided states:

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to authorize or otherwise approve of the use of the Armed Forces of the United States in carrying out activities under this Act.

Cheers. --Tjss(Talk) 03:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Chatham

Thanks for the response...to be honest, I'd rather just throw off the whole issue of personal attacks and incivlity and resolve the facts issue. I also don't see how we're going to be compelling an anon user to participate in Mediation... —lensovet–talk – 04:40, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Central Asia

Please note the creation of WikiProject Central Asia and consider yourself heartily invited to join! Aelfthrytha 07:15, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Category:Government of Kazakhstan

Hi - all the articles you made about the current Cabinet of Kazakhstan are great, but they probably would go better in Category:Kazakhstani politicians rather than in the Government of Kazakhstan category. Aelfthrytha 07:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I never said you couldn't, I just recommended not doing it. My reason is that by your theory, everyone in the Kazakh government could be put in that category. Who is and is not involved at the moment can change. However, their status as politicians is more permanent, making it better for a category. If it is really important to you, I would suggest creating a category for Kazakh government ministers to put in the government category. Aelfthrytha 16:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

The template serves half the purpose - first someone has to find one of the articles though. To find an article, you really need a category. Having both is important. Could you please answer my concern about the Government category? I'm still worried that if you put up every person who is involved in a government, it would fill the category to the point of uselessness. Aelfthrytha 01:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I didn't explain very well. :( Let me try again. What I mean to say is that even if you restrict the category to everyone currently involved in the government, it could be huge. You could have mayors, Parliament members, ministers, judges, etc. Government categories have been traditionally for the government itself - the houses of parliament, the offices, the laws, and the constitution. Did I explain it okay this time? Aelfthrytha 02:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm really glad we finally understood each other! I never want to do anything here on Wiki without all involved authors working together and (if at all possible) agreeing. Sorry, I don't know enough about Terrorism in Kazakhstan to be useful. My not speaking or reading Russian is a bigger limitation for working with Kazakh topics than with the rest of Central Asia. Actually that's why I started the WikiProject - I wanted more accessible info in English. Aelfthrytha 04:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm back

I have returned from my trip, and have looked at the Terrorism in Kazakhstan article. You have obviously worked even more on it since you left me the messages, and I can't think of any major revisions that are needed at this point. Honestly, you have found more to say on this topic than I thought could be said about a country that has no terrorist attacks. By the way, referring to the discussion above about categorizing articles, I agree that they should be in the Kazakhstani politicians category. Whether they should stay in the government category while they are still involved in the government is debatable, but for now I will add the Politicians category to some of the articles, and keep in the government category. Academic Challenger 05:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I see it's already done. Academic Challenger 05:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Tip for Categorising

Your articles are really great but here's one thing to look at - when you categorise a person with a first and last name, you should pipe the category like this ] . That way they will show up in the category under the first letter of their last name, not the first letter of their first name. Sound good? Aelfthrytha 13:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

"Non-notable wife of a terrorist."

Try to avoid using political statements in Misplaced Pages. --Haham hanuka 20:09, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

calling Amir a terrorist is a political statement. --Haham hanuka 20:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias

Hey KazakhPol, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Removing broken references

This is regarding your edit to Crazy (Gnarls Barkley song). Please do not remove content from Misplaced Pages just because a reference that was used for it is no longer online. Instead , if you find a broken reference, you might want to see if you can fix it yourself or, if you can't, put up a notice on the article's talk page. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 19:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I think removing content just because references (which were there) are no longer there borders on vandalism. The things were right, and referenced in the first place, and you can't just remove them just because the references are out of date. Please read What to do when a reference link "goes dead" and stop removing valid content. Even if these statements were unsourced, there would be no need to remove them; See Tagging unsourced material, which reads "Don't be inappropriately cautious about removing unsourced material." and "If it is doubtful but not harmful to the whole article, use the {{fact}} tag to ask for source verification ." And I doubt any of the things you removed were harmful. There are also some more specific tags for problematic references here. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 09:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh and by the way, when I re-added the Nelly Furtado reference, it was the fixed link (which you then removed without checcking). --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 09:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

How is an article about a song a biography of a living person? And again, there is no need to remove the things as they are sourced (read What to do when a reference link "goes dead"). You wouldn't remove content because it uses an out-of-print book as a refernce, would you? Plus, the Discogs reference works, (and there really isn't any need for references in a track listing section; hardly any other song has one for that). The Billy Idol reference is valid, too, you just have to click on "Previous page" and scroll down a bit (it can't be direct linked because it's in Flash). And you just removed the fixed Nelly Furtado reference again! --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 17:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

If there is anything wrong with the references, just let me know (either on my talk page or on the article's talk page) and I'd be happy to fix it, there really is no need to remove the content. If there is something you want to be sourced, just point it out and I'll provide a source. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 17:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifing that. I now found the direct link to the news article on his official homepage and corrected the link() in the article. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 20:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Uzbek page moves

Please stop. I've never seen the naming style you're using. You need to discuss these changes before you resume. KazakhPol 18:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Hm... Dear KazakhPol, it is not a transliteration. I use orginal Uzbek latin spellings. Latin script is now official for the Uzbek language, that is why we use original latin spelling, instead of different horrible transliterations. E.g. Islom Karimov (instead of Islam Karimov, Islyam Kerimov, etc.)

I've never seen the naming style you're using.

I'm awfully sory, but it is a problem of yours, not of mine. Maybe this is because you don't know Uzbek orthography. You can find rules of transliteration of the Uzbek cyrillic alfabet into the Uzbek latin alfabet here.

Or if you have never seen, you can simply see, just like this:

• Tohir Yo‘ldoshev (Toҳир Йўлдошев)
• O‘tkir Sultonov (Ўткир Султонов)
• Ulug‘bek Haydarov (Улуғбек Ҳайдаров)
• etc.

And I have a question for you: what kind of spelling do you use? For example, why do you name Rashid Qadirov as Rashid Kadyrov?

Don Alessandro 19:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

When responding to the comments of other users, it's customary to respond on their talkpages and not your own. The naming style I go by is what I see commonly used in either official press releases issued by the Uzbek government or the media. I do not refer to the Uzbek President by Islom because that's just silly. There's a reason his name is Islam. KazakhPol 19:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

...it's customary to respond on their talkpages and not your own.

OK, let it be.

The naming style I go by is what I see commonly used in either official press releases issued by the Uzbek government or the media.

Hm... Yes, unfortunately many Uzbek media use this transliterations from Russian, instead of the natural Uzbek names. IMHO it's silly to use u instead of o‘ or k instead of q only because in the now abolished cyrillic script this letters are similar (у and ў, к and қ).

There's a reason his name is Islam.

In the Uzbek language this religion is called Islom. You don't rename Ivan into John, or Ibrahim into Abraham, do you? That is why we should not rename Islom to Islam.

Whether or no, now I have no neither energy, nor willing to start a "war of edits" or a long discussion. So, you may revert if you want so.

Don Alessandro 19:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

My only problem is the lack of communication prior to your page moves. I, also, am not interested in starting an edit war. I believe we got off on the wrong foot, as both of us are trying to improve Uzbek-related pages. Regards, KazakhPol 20:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I have moved all of them to the most popular (by Google) variants. In some cases these are Uzbek spellings (Sodiq Safoyev) and Russified ones in some others (Tahir Yuldashev). And, of cource, I mentioned the less popular variant in brackets. Don Alessandro 14:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Atasu-Alashankou pipeline

Yes, I yeard about this pipeline. This is a main section of oil pipeline between Kazakhstan and China. The article about this pipeline is under the name Kazakhstan-China oil pipeline, so you could make an internal link to this. Regards, Beagel 16:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Ethiopian Prime Minister statement

G'day Kazakhpol,

You reverted my changes to the story about the Ethiopian Prime Minister's statement in parliament. I changed it based on media sources. The story is currently unsourced contrary to guidelines. Could you please add a citation from a reliable source that supports the story. Capitalistroadster 01:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA that I have passed with 73/2/1.--Jusjih 09:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

al-Durrah

My pleasure, thanks for your note. Jayjg 17:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Feel free to revert him yourself. Jayjg 23:32, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Secretary-General

• I gave Nasrallah that title because that is his title in the Hezbollah article. I don't have much regard for him either but that is his title as far as I know. If it isn't, we need to change the Hezbollah article. Capitalistroadster 05:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Burgas-Alexandropoulos

Yes, these pipelines have several names and spellings. In Misplaced Pages they are under names Burgas-Alexandroupoli pipeline and Odessa-Brody pipeline. There are also some alternative projects like AMBO pipeline, Pan-European Pipeline and Kiyikoy - Ibrihaba pipeline (no wiki article yet) for same purpose. Also Samsun Ceyhan Pipeline project is related to the oil transport from the Black Sea bypassing Turkish straits. However, I don't think that all these pipelines will be built.Beagel 16:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Nursultan Nazarbayev

It is my pleasure. As funny as Borat is, I really wish people wouldn't vandalized wikipedia with his quotes.--Thomas.macmillan 03:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I have noticed that there has been a lot of vandalism recently on Kazakh topics, apparently because of Borat, which I only heard about because of the vandalism here. I will help check all the articles about Kazakhstan. Academic Challenger 06:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

You told me to "Please stop omitting negative portayals of Islam as this violates the WP:NPOV policy. Thank you, KazakhPol 04:30, 1 November 2006 (UTC)", after having deleted my revisions. Naturally this requires an explanation, because negative potrayals of Islam are themselves against any sort of neutrality. I have simply changed incorrect terms (which are offensive to most Muslims) like "Islamic extremism" to things like "extremist Muslims" to seperate the religion from the followers. (I assume you wouldn't have cared or been aware if I hadn't done so in the article on Kazakhstan.) Please clarify why going against other people's incorrect wording is "against the NPOV policy".

Misplaced Pages:Most wanted articles

Hi, thanks for the heads-up about Fiji at the 1996 Summer Olympics. A lot of those similar articles are "most wanted" only because of the links created from the use of the huge template {{NOCin1996SummerOlympics}}. My current project is to put standard infobox on all the "Nation at the year Olympics" pages (~3000 of them), creating stubs if necessary, so all those other "Most wanted" pages ought to be stubbed in the next week or so (depending on my edit rate...). Andrwsc 16:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

And thanks for the barnstar!! Andrwsc 18:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Kurmanbek Bakiyev - 2006 crisis

Thanks for that link. This is a very interesting story to follow. (Am86 19:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC))

Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy

Greetings, thanks for contributing to this article. As you've not previously contributed to any large degree to the article would you kindly add to the talk page what your cleanup concerns are specifically? As it stands now your adding the cleanup tag seems to be a bit of a "drive by" edit. Thanks. (→Netscott) 01:48, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Thursday

Yes, the 9th was Thursday. However, the current events page was showing that the 8th was Thursday. I don't care what part of the world you're in or what side of the international date line you may be on, the 8th was a Wednesday. Unless you're using some kind of a funky calendar, which I suppose Misplaced Pages may be using. Except for the fact that Misplaced Pages then fixed the current events page when the error was pointed out and now shows the proper days. 71.232.25.117 18:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: 82.18.125.110

Fair enough. I think you misread my intentions, there, though -- I saw that the user had made what I'd consider a veiled legal threat, and while I didn't want that to continue, I did want them to be free to pursue their dispute and hopefully reach an amicable resolution. My sole objective was that: stop the accusations being thrown around, and get a reasonable dialogue going. Unfortunately, by the time I checked back, a number of other editors had gotten involved, and it didn't look like I could do much good. Things got out of hand, and in retrospect, I might have done more to calm them down. I'll strive to do better in the future. Luna Santin 08:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

My failed RfA

Thank you so much (sarcasm) for your deeply unpleasant comments on my RfA. After months of working hard, following WP:NPOV to the letter, improving various articles and winning the respect of admins, not to mention working with the AMA, I feel that all my hard work has been thrown back in my face. I think it is now likely that I will stop editing Misplaced Pages altogether - the whole site is clearly run by a little clique of admins who attach more importance to edit counts than personality. I really don't care if you block me, call this a personal attack, or anything else - I think I've had enough of following the rules. Once again, thank you so much for destroying my confidence, ruining the one real diversion that existed in my life, and generally making me feel bad. Walton monarchist89 20:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I apologise for the above comment. I was in a bad mood at the time. In reality, I do understand why you voted against my RfA. It's true that I don't have a huge amount of experience and I may decide to reapply in the future. Please accept my apology. Walton monarchist89 20:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Will you accept my apology? I'm only human and was basically just feeling sorry for myself. I don't want to start another account - I do honestly feel I've done a lot of good work with this one, and if you check my record you'll see I've never before been involved in this kind of disagreement. Once again, I'm really sorry. Walton monarchist89 20:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Be more careful

Be a bit more watchful when deleting. When deleting Feasts and obesrvances (what I edited, now I added links) January 29 you have deleted by mistake all External Links and categories, also all the links to pages in different languages to the bottom. I fixed it.--80.203.33.200 21:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

The nonsense articles

I deleted those nonsense articles. For the future, you should read Misplaced Pages:Speedy deletions which will tell you how how to nominate pages for speedy deletion, where they will be placed in a category that is usually monitored by several admins during all times. Academic Challenger 22:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your input!

Thank you for taking part in my RfA. The RfA was not successful, mostly because I did a pretty bad job of presenting myself. I'll run again sometime in the next few months, in the hopes that some will reconsider.

In the meantime, one of the projects I'm working on is A Wikimedia Administrator's Handbook. This is a wikibook how-to guide intended to help new administrators learn the ropes, as well as to simply "demystify" what adminship entails. If you are an administrator, please help out with writing it, particularly on the technical aspects of the tools. Both administrators and non-administrators are welcome to help link in and sort all of the various policies regarding the use of these tools on wikipedia in particular (as well as other projects: for example, I have almost no experience with how things work on wiktionary or wikinews). Users who are neither familiar with policy or the sysop tools could be of great help by asking questions about anything that's unclear. The goal is to get everything together in one place, with a narrative form designed to anticipate the reader's next question.

A second project, related but not entailed, is a book on wikimedia in general, with a history of how various policies evolved over time, interesting trivia (e.g., what the heck was "wikimoney" about?), and a history of how the wikimedia foundation itself came about and the larger issues that occurred during its history (such as the infamous "Spanish Fork").

Again, thanks for your input on the RfA, and thanks in advance for any help you might be able to provide for the handbook. --SB_Johnny||_books 13:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Dalbury's RfA

My RfA passed with a tally of 71/1/0. Thank you very much for your support. I hope that my performance as an admin will not disappoint you. Please let me know if you see me doing anything inappropriate. -- Donald Albury 03:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

al-Durrah

Let's work this out on the article's Talk: page, there are a number of issues with your proposed change, some of which I've listed in my edit summary. Jayjg 00:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Dangherous's vote

It's not frowned upon to make clear that a voter in an RfA has deleted discussion material, possibly misleading closing bureaucrats. Although I trust Bureaucats to look into the history behind votes in an RfA they are closing, it is helpful to the process to make it more clear. Dangherous deleted discussion comments, and opposed for reasons which have been by the community in the past, which is why I called his reasons spurious. Best regards, RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 03:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Bird for visitors

Is this how you want the colibri? If you'd like to understand how to change it in various ways, I suggest consulting User:DVD R W, I believe he created the code. Bishonen | talk 14:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC).

Thanks for your support!

A week ago I nominated myself, hoping to be able to help Misplaced Pages as an administrator as much as a WikiGnome. I am very glad many others shared my thoughts, including you. Thank you for your trust! Be sure I will use these tools to protect and prevent and not to harass or punish. Should you feel I am overreacting, pat me so that I can correct myself. Thanks again! ReyBrujo 19:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Jesus Prayer

Thank you for your third (or fourth) opinion. I will let you know if the list gets deleted. Biruitorul 05:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for adding an additional viewpoint here! For future reference, might I ask why you disagreed? This might be very helpful to the disputants as well. Also, you may wish to let Crculver know that an additional opinion was added. Seraphimblade 05:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I do still disagree (I tend to look more at tone, seems more encyclopedic to summarize and link to content), but I certainly see where you're coming from as well. Seraphimblade 20:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Zvi Tohar AfD

Apologies for not quoting WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF prior to your response on that AfD, but I felt it wasn't my place to make assumptions about your "war crime victim" statement before you responded yourself (my assumption was that you'd meant "perpetrator", but you never know round here!) I suspect Alansohn may not be quite using the objectivity about a given article required when making an argument on AfD. Regards, Tonywalton  | Talk 21:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, that's a very cool hummingbird. Tonywalton  | Talk 21:55, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Israeli-Zionist terrorism

Done. Next time, just tag the article you created with {{db-user}}, and an administrator will delete it soon after. Cheers! -- ReyBrujo 01:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Islamic terrorism

Please do not make cut-and-paste page moves "When a cut-and-paste move is done, the page history of an article or talk page can be split among two or more different pages. This is a Very Bad Thing, because we need to keep the history with the content for copyright reasons." Tom Harrison 03:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I like the hummingbird - impressively well done. Tom Harrison 03:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

The same story about Zionism. Both these are sensitive topics, and long discussions ended up in consensus. Please do not make unilateral moves. ←Humus sapiens 04:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I see that you've attempted it more than once. This may be qualified as disruption. I suggest you proceed with caution. Thanks. ←Humus sapiens 04:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Let me be more clear: Cut and paste moves are strictly forbidden. I would be sorry to have to block you to prevent it. If a page title is disputed, take it up on requested moves. Tom Harrison 04:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello? Do some research before you cease to assume good faith genius. (→Netscott) 04:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

This is becoming disruptive. Now might be a good time to find something else to do, or take a voluntary break from editing for a few hours. Tom Harrison 04:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you; It is a difficult area, and I understand your point. I will watch for the discussion. Tom Harrison 04:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Islamic terrorism

I will reopen discussion on this title at a later date, when I have finished working on a few other things. When I do I will notify you, though generally I am thoroughly annoyed with your editing. On a separate note, I hardly see "consensus" on the current name for this page nor any of the other religion and terrorism pages. This is political correctness and partisanship run amok. KazakhPol 04:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

No worries, you're being bold and ruffling feathers. Your boldness and perhaps my stodgy-ness are bumping into each other... that's pretty much a normal part of operations around here... but do know that I strive to ensure a neutral point of view in my editing... which I suspect you might be mistaking for polical correctness. (→Netscott) 04:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

A Request for Mediation to which you are a party was not accepted and has been delisted. You can find more information on the mediation subpage, Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Muhammad al-Durrah. For the Mediation Committee, Essjay (Talk) This message delivered by MediationBot, an automated bot account operated by the Mediation Committee to perform case management. If you have questions about this bot, please contact the Mediation Committee directly.

Re:Terrorism in Kazakhstan

Yes, go ahead. If you want create also a tempate which should link all those pages, something like Template:Hezbollah --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)