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| Your comments have no bearing on whether or not SkinnyMcGee is a sockpuppet/puppeteer. I think the both of you are now showing that you are acting together in congress which lead to the edit war. You are attempting to draw attention away from the real issues... This investigation, also NPOV (bias, undue weight, sensationalism and abuse of Wiki to self-promote). I am still awaiting an investigation and I have no agenda here but to uncover what's been going on. I have made no edits to the material, and I (unike you two) have not reverted discussions, references and material in order to hide information. SkinnyMcGee's first edit only appeared after the unsigned edits and after other names were being used. Dionyseus, you have been here editing since last year and all of your edits seem to evoke fierce debates. Many require mediation and arbitration, but you seem to always be involved in something that requires an admin to step in. I personally think you enjoy causing strife. AGAIN, like I said to you before, I will patiently await an investigation before I draw any further conclusions, but those are my ''suspicions.'' I am fairly confident that those suspicions will pan out. Also, I am NOT required to tell you who I am, and you are wrong to demand it. ] 04:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | Your comments have no bearing on whether or not SkinnyMcGee is a sockpuppet/puppeteer. I think the both of you are now showing that you are acting together in congress which lead to the edit war. You are attempting to draw attention away from the real issues... This investigation, also NPOV (bias, undue weight, sensationalism and abuse of Wiki to self-promote). I am still awaiting an investigation and I have no agenda here but to uncover what's been going on. I have made no edits to the material, and I (unike you two) have not reverted discussions, references and material in order to hide information. SkinnyMcGee's first edit only appeared after the unsigned edits and after other names were being used. Dionyseus, you have been here editing since last year and all of your edits seem to evoke fierce debates. Many require mediation and arbitration, but you seem to always be involved in something that requires an admin to step in. I personally think you enjoy causing strife. AGAIN, like I said to you before, I will patiently await an investigation before I draw any further conclusions, but those are my ''suspicions.'' I am fairly confident that those suspicions will pan out. Also, I am NOT required to tell you who I am, and you are wrong to demand it. ] 04:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
| :I'd like to point out that despite Peacekpr's claim that I enjoy causing strife, I've only been involved in two unofficial mediation cases in attempt to resolve content disputes, and in the arbitration case I was cleared of all charges and the filer, ], was blocked for a week by the arbitrators for discourtesy and personal attacks. ] 05:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | :I'd like to point out that despite Peacekpr's claim that I enjoy causing strife, I've only been involved in two unofficial mediation cases in attempt to resolve content disputes, and in the arbitration case I was cleared of all charges and the filer, ], was blocked for a week by the arbitrators for discourtesy and personal attacks. ] 05:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
| I would like to point out that ] and ] are the same only in so far as they came from the same house. Defender99 is a name my husband used just one time to make a very uncontroversial edit to the ] article. I do not attempt to hide behind sockpuppets as the editing history of the ] article shows. Since I realized editing under an IP address was frowned upon, I have only edited under my name (and occasionally under the IP address when I forget to sign in). - ] 19:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 19:57, 27 November 2006
(responding to archive comment)
- Sorry you don't approve of my archiving skills - I just followed the instructions. I didn't want to archive anything, but as the page was ridiculously long I didn't think I had a choice. I left the whole discussion of the different versions and the request for comment. I did link to the archive at the top of the page, so anyone can go and look at it. If I "hid a link back" as you indicate, I'll fix it if I'm able, but I don't know what you're talking about. As I said before, I just followed the instructions. I called it inactive because that's what I was told to do (and it was inactive - we weren't discussing those sections anymore). Nothing deceptive about it. - Skinny McGee 22:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know how to archive, but I agree with SkinnyMcGee that User:Peacekpr is taking things out of context here. If SkinnyMcgee was really trying to hide the previous discussions, he would not have included a link at the top of the page to the archive. Dionyseus 23:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
In my own defense, I would like to say that I do not use sockpuppets. When I first started editing here, I didn't see the need to have a sign-in name, so I posted under my IP address. When I realized that was frowned upon, I created my name and have been editing under that ever since (sometimes I forget to sign in, but never in an attempt to hide what I'm doing). I've always been very straightforward about what I was trying to accomplish. I believe that GuardianZ/Oroboros 1/Peacekpr has an agenda to promote Joseph Vargo and diminish what Midnight Syndicate has accomplished and I'm trying to prevent that. So when they make the same edits over and over again, I take them out over and over again. I acknowledge Joseph's contributions to the two albums he worked on using the credits as stated in the CD booklets. Also, Peacekpr mentions several times in the above accusations that I removed an RFC. That's true - I did remove one RFC because the Midnight Syndicate article was listed twice. If you look at her link, you can see the other entry is still there. This is just a witch hunt. - Skinny McGee 01:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- In addition to SkinnyMcGee's comment, I would like to point out that it has been confirmed that User:GuardianZ is User:Oroboros_1's puppetmaster. User:Oroboros_1 has been indefenitely banned for sockpuppetry. I don't know who User:Peacekpr is, and he/she refuses to tell me, but I find it suspicious that this user is so strongly interested in this case. User:Peacekpr's very first edit was on November 22, 2006, and it was an investigation into SkinnyMcgee, and all of User:Peacekpr's edits have been about the case. Dionyseus 02:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Your comments have no bearing on whether or not SkinnyMcGee is a sockpuppet/puppeteer. I think the both of you are now showing that you are acting together in congress which lead to the edit war. You are attempting to draw attention away from the real issues... This investigation, also NPOV (bias, undue weight, sensationalism and abuse of Wiki to self-promote). I am still awaiting an investigation and I have no agenda here but to uncover what's been going on. I have made no edits to the material, and I (unike you two) have not reverted discussions, references and material in order to hide information. SkinnyMcGee's first edit only appeared after the unsigned edits and after other names were being used. Dionyseus, you have been here editing since last year and all of your edits seem to evoke fierce debates. Many require mediation and arbitration, but you seem to always be involved in something that requires an admin to step in. I personally think you enjoy causing strife. AGAIN, like I said to you before, I will patiently await an investigation before I draw any further conclusions, but those are my suspicions. I am fairly confident that those suspicions will pan out. Also, I am NOT required to tell you who I am, and you are wrong to demand it. Peacekpr 04:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'd like to point out that despite Peacekpr's claim that I enjoy causing strife, I've only been involved in two unofficial mediation cases in attempt to resolve content disputes, and in the arbitration case I was cleared of all charges and the filer, User:Danielpi, was blocked for a week by the arbitrators for discourtesy and personal attacks. Dionyseus 05:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I would like to point out that Defender99 and Skinny McGee are the same only in so far as they came from the same house. Defender99 is a name my husband used just one time to make a very uncontroversial edit to the Midnight Syndicate article. I do not attempt to hide behind sockpuppets as the editing history of the Midnight Syndicate article shows. Since I realized editing under an IP address was frowned upon, I have only edited under my name (and occasionally under the IP address when I forget to sign in). - Skinny McGee 19:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)