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{{unblock|There is no reason for this. What threat is there? It sounds "close" to a threat? I did not threaten and this was in very, very bad faith. I should be unblocked immediatly. I have done nothing wrong. Anyone that reviews what has been going on will understand this. I asked for my account to be deleted and there was a legitamate discussion going on. I was receiving ADVICE. This is another example of an admin over-reacting over advice and HELP seeking. Blocked for seeking help and advice? When others were helping me too? Please unblock me.}}
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after you asked that it be "deleted". I "deleted" (read: blocked) it. <tt style="color:#161;">RadioKirk<small> (]|]|])</small></tt> 23:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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Well I think your corse of actions seem fair...however, the reasons for doing it are wrong. I would have liked for you to talk to me as I had requested. If my suggestion violated a rule...then I did not know. It is just wrong that people act without thinking to open a discussion. Don't you think that is wrong too?


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Thank you for deleting the talk page. It was too much. I would like to suggest that the talk page be blocked from editing by other users for now.


Wikipedians try to follow a strict policy of ]. If you are unsure of how to do something, you are welcome to ask a more experienced user such as an ]. One last bit of advice: please sign any discussion comment with four tildes (~&#126;~~). The software will automatically convert this into your signature which can be altered in the "Preferences" tab at the top of the screen. I hope I have not overwhelmed you with information. If you need any help just let me know. Once again welcome to Misplaced Pages, and don't forget to ] ] and be ]! -- ] <sup>]</sup> 23:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Now...PLEASE DO NOT TAKE NEGATIVE ACTION FOR ASKING...would it be possible to block edits on the user-talk page for now while unblocking the ability to edit?


==Re: Wiki Administrator abuses==
I think the blocking could have been a positive move if it had been done in good faith. I do not think it was but would accept some kind of positive response as an apology.
Hi, first of all I am not an administrator of Misplaced Pages, I have no power over these sort of things. I assume you are ]? If you are not, I invite you to discuss your differences with ] on the talk page and with him directly on his talk page. If you want to have the community input, I suggest to bring the matter to ] or, as a last resort, ]. Remember that an administrator is a user like you and me and that we all make mistakes :) <s>Since it is an administrator, you might want to raise the matter on ] but since it is an editing problem I am not sure this is the best option.</s> Regards, -- ] <sup>]</sup> 23:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
:edit: It seems to me that ] is not an administrator -- ] <sup>]</sup> 23:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


::My suggestion will be following ]. I am not an admin, I just follow the procedures on how to use warning templates and if necessary, report the abusive user there. ] 00:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Furthermore, I find the irony that blocking me completly violates Libertarian principles. Please consider.


⚫ Thank you. ] 23:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


:The talk page has not been deleted; its history remains. Editing by others cannot be blocked unless in cases of clear vandalism; that has not happened. You asked that the account be "deleted"; that cannot happen unless it is blocked. If you're asking that other users somehow not "bother" you as a result of your edits, the only way that will happen is if you don't edit any more. Taking all these into consideration, I took the course of action I felt was necessary. If you have more of an explanation, please do so. <tt style="color:#161;">RadioKirk<small> (]|]|])</small></tt> 00:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


==Notice==
Thank you for your response. Now that the account is blocked, will you please delete it?


I have posted on several user-talk pages before I posted on two forums concerning a Vandalism matter.
Now, there are CLEAR examples of vandalism on my page...Indeed, I emphasise the fact that aggressive action took place without a clear understanding of the facts. The reason why I asked for my account to be deleted was vandalism by people I have NEVER had any interaction with. I ask that you "take these into consideration." Look at just today's history. It is weird. I havn't edited in a month.
The forums were the most appropriate place to put the content.


Thank you for all of your help and attention.
Now that you know some more facts...and the account is blocked...please delete my account? Talk page? Ban edits because of clear vandalism?
⚫ ] 02:27, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


:No problem now that you've found the appropriate places. The warning below will have to remain though until properly ]. ] 11:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Change must happen with this account in one way or another.


Warning: Do not ] and forum shop. Do not accuse other editors of vandalism for good-faith edits. For content disputes, which this is, see ]. Do not continue in this manner. —]→]&nbsp;&bull; 02:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you,
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*Response to Centrx: this user vandalized a legitamite complaint of a forum which was appropriatly posted, one which was recommended for me to use by other users. ] 15:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Which are you suggesting, that legitimate warnings from other users are vandalism, or that blanking them yourself is vandalism? <tt style="color:#161;">RadioKirk<small> (]|]|])</small></tt> 00:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
**It's not wise to go around accusing people of vandalism, unless you are certain. {{userlinks|Centrx}} is an admin, and he's quite within his rights to remove a notice from the admins noticeboard if he has just cause to do so. --] 16:09, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


I will also reiterate the warning about spamming user talk pages and screaming "fire". Repeat it and you'll be blocked. --] 16:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I did not blank them. Some weird person did and they may even know me...I don't know. But I know what sock puppets are and I am not one. That reply assumes too much and is unfair...but does not contridict earlier actions.


*Kingboyk, please notice, if you look on my talk page, you will find that I have found the proper forums to post the information. I thought to look for administrators because I followed the instructions that told me how to contact administrators, if needed. User Talk pages are not the place for these discussions, unless they have already inserted themselves in the matter. I have taken the proper steps to notify Misplaced Pages of potentially libelous content and vandalism, which is a concern for all editors and administrators.] 16:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
This is why there should be a deletion and/or a block from editing the page.


Entire sections were deleted when there were responses to them. This is not screaming "fire." You are only writing this because I am new and he is an admin. I am looking out for Misplaced Pages and it is important to uphold its standards. I will continue to fight for Misplaced Pages in an honorable way.] 16:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I have provided a fair case for deletion. If you need more of an explination, please request.


== Response ==
Thank you,
] 00:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


A bunch of things:
:The only edits by ] are to the IP's talk page and this talk page, to give a seemingly unprovoked warning to ] and to report that user to ]. You are currently editing from 131.94.167.215, both of which resolve to Florida International University. If you're not a sockpuppet, you're a meatpuppet. Requests denied. You may request further review or, better yet, move on to your next project. <tt style="color:#161;">RadioKirk<small> (]|]|])</small></tt> 00:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
You don't understand. Furthermore, you accused me of being a meatpuppet, which is wrong and I believe a serious offense. Once again, another action without knowing all the facts, which is why it is important to end this page.


#I hope that you enjoy editing Misplaced Pages, and that you work to become an experienced editor. There are a lot of things to learn, but if you want advice, I'll be glad to help.
I want to show to you why it is important why ] has vandalized my page...WHICH I DO NOT APPROVE.
#As to our dispute with regard to the ] page, I thought we were making progress, particularly given your last few comments on the talk page. Since it appears that you are still unhappy, let me offer some suggestions.
If I approved of it, I would not be upset by it. I am being fully transparent.
:*If you would like some help in this dispute, one good idea might be to file a ]. An advocate would be able to help you learn the various Misplaced Pages policies, guidelines, and customs that apply to our dispute.
:*Ultimately, the way that you and I are expected to resolve our dispute is through one or more methods of ]. My preference under these circumstances would be ], but if you have any other concerns or preferences, please let me know.
:*If you think that I am libeling Clint Curtis, the best place to get help is the ]. I will say that I don't think I'm libeling him, but you're free to get more opinions.
Thanks, and please let me know if there's anything else I can do to help. ] 03:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


== Re: ==
Can you not see why this page must be deleted?

] 00:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I removed the comment you put on my user talk page. First, I am '''not''' from the United States, and since this appears to be a US political issue, I do not understand details about it. Second, you should try other means of resolving the dispute (see ]). ] 20:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi,
My apologies, I contacted you because I was seeking help from administrators. You indeed should not have been contacted and I will look over to delete any remaining comments on other pages. Politics have nothing to do with the article, instead, there were other significant issues that are being discussed. Thank you for your time and concern. ] 21:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== From Yancyfry jr ==

Hello Rememberkigali, you left a message on my talk page anf I'm kindof confused. How did you get the impression that I'm an Admin? I can't do anything about TheronJ. -]
:On further inspection, you have been contacting a few users that are not Admins. If my name or their name is on the list of admins, then kindly take it off. I don't want to give the impression I'm an admin. -]

== Just a note. ==

You can't delete accounts under the laws that Misplaced Pages operates under, and most admins are not going to ever oversight all your edits, and account renames are not that common unless you request them (and that still leaves your contributions open to prying eyes.) ] 23:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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Welcome to Misplaced Pages!

Dear Rememberkigali: Welcome to Misplaced Pages, a free and open-content encyclopedia. I hope you enjoy contributing. To help get you settled in, I thought you might find the following pages useful:

Don't worry too much about being perfect. Very few of us are! Just in case you are not perfect, click here to see how you can avoid making common mistakes.

If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.

Wikipedians try to follow a strict policy of never biting new users. If you are unsure of how to do something, you are welcome to ask a more experienced user such as an administrator. One last bit of advice: please sign any discussion comment with four tildes (~~~~). The software will automatically convert this into your signature which can be altered in the "Preferences" tab at the top of the screen. I hope I have not overwhelmed you with information. If you need any help just let me know. Once again welcome to Misplaced Pages, and don't forget to tell us about yourself and be BOLD! -- lucasbfr 23:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Wiki Administrator abuses

Hi, first of all I am not an administrator of Misplaced Pages, I have no power over these sort of things. I assume you are User:131.94.88.215? If you are not, I invite you to discuss your differences with user:TheronJ on the talk page and with him directly on his talk page. If you want to have the community input, I suggest to bring the matter to Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation or, as a last resort, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration. Remember that an administrator is a user like you and me and that we all make mistakes :) Since it is an administrator, you might want to raise the matter on Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard but since it is an editing problem I am not sure this is the best option. Regards, -- lucasbfr 23:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

edit: It seems to me that user:TheronJ is not an administrator -- lucasbfr 23:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
My suggestion will be following this page. I am not an admin, I just follow the procedures on how to use warning templates and if necessary, report the abusive user there. MythSearcher 00:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


Notice

I have posted on several user-talk pages before I posted on two forums concerning a Vandalism matter. The forums were the most appropriate place to put the content.

Thank you for all of your help and attention. Rememberkigali 02:27, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem now that you've found the appropriate places. The warning below will have to remain though until properly archived. Femto 11:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Warning: Do not spam and forum shop. Do not accuse other editors of vandalism for good-faith edits. For content disputes, which this is, see Misplaced Pages:Resolving disputes. Do not continue in this manner. —Centrx→talk • 02:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I will also reiterate the warning about spamming user talk pages and screaming "fire". Repeat it and you'll be blocked. --kingboyk 16:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Kingboyk, please notice, if you look on my talk page, you will find that I have found the proper forums to post the information. I thought to look for administrators because I followed the instructions that told me how to contact administrators, if needed. User Talk pages are not the place for these discussions, unless they have already inserted themselves in the matter. I have taken the proper steps to notify Misplaced Pages of potentially libelous content and vandalism, which is a concern for all editors and administrators.Rememberkigali 16:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Entire sections were deleted when there were responses to them. This is not screaming "fire." You are only writing this because I am new and he is an admin. I am looking out for Misplaced Pages and it is important to uphold its standards. I will continue to fight for Misplaced Pages in an honorable way.Rememberkigali 16:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Response

A bunch of things:

  1. I hope that you enjoy editing Misplaced Pages, and that you work to become an experienced editor. There are a lot of things to learn, but if you want advice, I'll be glad to help.
  2. As to our dispute with regard to the Clint Curtis page, I thought we were making progress, particularly given your last few comments on the talk page. Since it appears that you are still unhappy, let me offer some suggestions.
  • If you would like some help in this dispute, one good idea might be to file a request for advocacy. An advocate would be able to help you learn the various Misplaced Pages policies, guidelines, and customs that apply to our dispute.
  • Ultimately, the way that you and I are expected to resolve our dispute is through one or more methods of dispute resolution. My preference under these circumstances would be informal mediation, but if you have any other concerns or preferences, please let me know.
  • If you think that I am libeling Clint Curtis, the best place to get help is the Biographies of living persons noticeboard. I will say that I don't think I'm libeling him, but you're free to get more opinions.

Thanks, and please let me know if there's anything else I can do to help. TheronJ 03:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Your comment

I removed the comment you put on my user talk page. First, I am not from the United States, and since this appears to be a US political issue, I do not understand details about it. Second, you should try other means of resolving the dispute (see WP:RD). Polonium 20:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, My apologies, I contacted you because I was seeking help from administrators. You indeed should not have been contacted and I will look over to delete any remaining comments on other pages. Politics have nothing to do with the article, instead, there were other significant issues that are being discussed. Thank you for your time and concern. Rememberkigali 21:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

From Yancyfry jr

Hello Rememberkigali, you left a message on my talk page anf I'm kindof confused. How did you get the impression that I'm an Admin? I can't do anything about TheronJ. -Yancyfry jr

On further inspection, you have been contacting a few users that are not Admins. If my name or their name is on the list of admins, then kindly take it off. I don't want to give the impression I'm an admin. -Yancyfry jr

Just a note.

You can't delete accounts under the laws that Misplaced Pages operates under, and most admins are not going to ever oversight all your edits, and account renames are not that common unless you request them (and that still leaves your contributions open to prying eyes.) 24.89.197.136 23:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)