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| Another "interesting" link I found: Nice quote: "Now that ... Osama bin Laden has effectively become the Spanish Foreign Minister..." (referring to the election victory of Zapatero) ] 15:04, 25 May 2004 (UTC) | Another "interesting" link I found: Nice quote: "Now that ... Osama bin Laden has effectively become the Spanish Foreign Minister..." (referring to the election victory of Zapatero) ] 15:04, 25 May 2004 (UTC) | ||
| == More and faster … the story of the radicalising Muslim youth of Holland == | |||
| The number of young Muslims in the Netherlands who are turning against Dutch society and who hold Dutch culture in contempt is riding a parabola. An estimated 1,500 potential “assassins of Van Gogh” are out there right now, prepared to die to establish an Islamic state in Holland. And that’s no Neo-Nazi scare-talk. It is the considered view of the Dutch General Information and Security Service (AIVD), the Dutch state security, and it is expressed in their report on the radicalizing of Islam in the Netherlands, From Dawa* to Jihad (in Dutch)http://www.minbzk.nl/contents/pages/10835/notavandawatotjihad.pdf. | |||
| The report, which has been sent to the Dutch House of Commons and to all mayors, records the increased loathing Muslims now feel for the “corrupting Western life style”. Their youth are the “new protest generation”. They are turning themselves not only against Dutch society but also against moderate Muslims - in their eyes collaborators with the enemy. | |||
| The AIVD attributes this to an identity crisis into which much foreign youth has fallen. Radical Islam offers them simple answers and a return in terms of self-respect that wider society can never supply. | |||
| The AIDV warns that this radicalising of youth is hard to fight. It circumvents the necessity for terrorist organisations to seek recruits in prisons or mosques. Many young Muslims take the initiative themselves and search the internet for information and texts by radical imams. They have already asked themselves whether they are willing to act, and answered in the positive. The AIVD calls them potential time bombs. | |||
| But welcome though the report is for its realism, what I miss is the idea that the radicalised young Muslim does not arrive from nowhere fully-formed. He has already shown himself through other, lesser acts of antipathy to Dutch life, by and large criminal in nature. These are by no means all small moments of rebellion. There are hundreds of gang rapes committed in the large Dutch cities, the average age of the victims being, most shockingly, just thirteen. | |||
| Personally, I am convinced that most of these and a widespread array of other crimes against the host community are in fact acts of pure racial hatred. And it is precisely this endemic criminality that is, in the long term, the gravest threat to Dutch society. It may not be as spectacular as a terrorist murder but its effect is close to home and it destroys not one life but thousands. | |||
| *Dawa means literally: “appeal” (to become Muslim). | |||
| P.S.: Some important numbers about the gang rape problem in Holland. | |||
| The gang rape problem in the Netherlands was recently couched in an exact number: 200 (two hundred) cases each year (Article in Dutch: http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/48974). This information is genuine. It was even aired on the radio in Flanders. But reality is in fact much worse. This is even admitted by the Dutch Justice department. Many girls hesitate to report to the police. | |||
| It has been calculated that in 66% of the cases the culprits are of allochthonous descent. In Belgium the Moroccan youth stays on top of the list. I suppose it to be the same in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands, the rapists have an average age of 14 years. They do it as entertainment and don’t feel guilty. It’s also a way to show virility. On the other side, 75% of the victims are native Dutch girls. Their average age is 13 (thirteen)! | |||
| In Flanders (Belgium) the situation is not yet so dramatic, for the time being. There the Moroccan Arab youth is apparently still more reluctant to launch such a full scale rape attack against the native “dhimmi"-people, althought there is already much “steaming”, see at: http://www.asc41.com/www/1999/absvi071.htm Perhaps out of fear for a backlash from the well-organised Flemish Interest conservative party? | |||
| Flanders in Belgium - Johan - ] Jan 5, 2005 | |||
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If that first weblink is as good as we can get in NPOV, that would indicate that the whole concept is very ideological (which it seemed to me anyway at first glance) and therefore should be clearly marked as such. Jakob Stevo 11:38, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
- Me - I'd be delighted to see this article on VfD. But short of that, what kind of "clear marking" do you suggest? Is this even a term which has been coined in more than the two sources linked to?
- Essentially the tone of the piece here suggests that immigration - and specifically immigration of peoples with other cultures - is a "bad thing". It is implying that Europe should not have "United in diversity" as its motto.
- It really sounds like xenophobistic rubbish. Not to mention that the concept is nonsense anyways!
- Zoney 08:27, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
- It's my opinion too that the concept is nonsense, but if it is in use within neo-conservative circles, which I can't judge, than we should have it here. "Clear marking" would mean to start it with "The term Eurabia is used within a Neo-Conservative, often xenophobic, context to support the idea that..." or something of the like. But it's fine by me if you put in on VfD, and by the way, it gave me headache to read Eurabia. Jakob Stevo 13:42, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
Another "interesting" link I found: Nice quote: "Now that ... Osama bin Laden has effectively become the Spanish Foreign Minister..." (referring to the election victory of Zapatero) Jakob Stevo 15:04, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
More and faster … the story of the radicalising Muslim youth of Holland
The number of young Muslims in the Netherlands who are turning against Dutch society and who hold Dutch culture in contempt is riding a parabola. An estimated 1,500 potential “assassins of Van Gogh” are out there right now, prepared to die to establish an Islamic state in Holland. And that’s no Neo-Nazi scare-talk. It is the considered view of the Dutch General Information and Security Service (AIVD), the Dutch state security, and it is expressed in their report on the radicalizing of Islam in the Netherlands, From Dawa* to Jihad (in Dutch)http://www.minbzk.nl/contents/pages/10835/notavandawatotjihad.pdf. The report, which has been sent to the Dutch House of Commons and to all mayors, records the increased loathing Muslims now feel for the “corrupting Western life style”. Their youth are the “new protest generation”. They are turning themselves not only against Dutch society but also against moderate Muslims - in their eyes collaborators with the enemy. The AIVD attributes this to an identity crisis into which much foreign youth has fallen. Radical Islam offers them simple answers and a return in terms of self-respect that wider society can never supply. The AIDV warns that this radicalising of youth is hard to fight. It circumvents the necessity for terrorist organisations to seek recruits in prisons or mosques. Many young Muslims take the initiative themselves and search the internet for information and texts by radical imams. They have already asked themselves whether they are willing to act, and answered in the positive. The AIVD calls them potential time bombs. But welcome though the report is for its realism, what I miss is the idea that the radicalised young Muslim does not arrive from nowhere fully-formed. He has already shown himself through other, lesser acts of antipathy to Dutch life, by and large criminal in nature. These are by no means all small moments of rebellion. There are hundreds of gang rapes committed in the large Dutch cities, the average age of the victims being, most shockingly, just thirteen. Personally, I am convinced that most of these and a widespread array of other crimes against the host community are in fact acts of pure racial hatred. And it is precisely this endemic criminality that is, in the long term, the gravest threat to Dutch society. It may not be as spectacular as a terrorist murder but its effect is close to home and it destroys not one life but thousands.
- Dawa means literally: “appeal” (to become Muslim).
P.S.: Some important numbers about the gang rape problem in Holland. The gang rape problem in the Netherlands was recently couched in an exact number: 200 (two hundred) cases each year (Article in Dutch: http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/48974). This information is genuine. It was even aired on the radio in Flanders. But reality is in fact much worse. This is even admitted by the Dutch Justice department. Many girls hesitate to report to the police. It has been calculated that in 66% of the cases the culprits are of allochthonous descent. In Belgium the Moroccan youth stays on top of the list. I suppose it to be the same in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands, the rapists have an average age of 14 years. They do it as entertainment and don’t feel guilty. It’s also a way to show virility. On the other side, 75% of the victims are native Dutch girls. Their average age is 13 (thirteen)! In Flanders (Belgium) the situation is not yet so dramatic, for the time being. There the Moroccan Arab youth is apparently still more reluctant to launch such a full scale rape attack against the native “dhimmi"-people, althought there is already much “steaming”, see at: http://www.asc41.com/www/1999/absvi071.htm Perhaps out of fear for a backlash from the well-organised Flemish Interest conservative party?
Flanders in Belgium - Johan - --Jvb Jan 5, 2005
Vlaams Blok, now Vlaams Belang (Flemish Interest party) in Belgium
Belgium’s biggest party (Vlaams Blok) has been murdered by Eurabia’s allies, who have not only voted draconian laws, but who also have installed the Thought Police to apply these draconian laws. Is that enough to mention such an event?
By founding a new party (costs 2 million dollar) the Flemish uprising against Eurabia is not yet crushed.
See at: http://vdare.com/misc/belien_041109_belgium.htm and http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/39/ and http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/54/ and http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/87/
Johan
Flanders 11/2004