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==WARNING YOU ARE VISITING A BASTARD’S PAGE==
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This user belongs to a well collaborated (Greece and U.K. based) group of WP sysops and users that has been spotted recently to work systematically in full daily basis propagandazing ultra natioanalistic Greek POV, and distorting related articles. This user intervenes in any Balkan history and politics related article, push Greek POV, launches edit wars, and repeated reverts in vandalized by him versions, permanent deletions, blocks users, makes merges and redirects to delete undesired articles. His main target is to monopolize all articles against Turkey, Rebublic of Macedonia, Bulgaria, Albania (Chameria,Northern Epirus), their minorities in Greece and their history. He attacks every POV against Greece transforming it to Greekish POV. He is dangerous for Balkan stability and must be blocked indefinetelly from Misplaced Pages.
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This user is also suspected agent of Greek National Intelligence Service (E.Y.Π. Κυπατζής) and follower of ultra nationalistic organizations of Greek “national interests”, as L.A.O.S. and Chrissi Avgi. He’s also mulriple sockpuppet and impersonator of his group members. He is a schizophrenic web vandal unacceptible to wikipedian community.
== Warning ==


To verify chek his “contributions” and “talk page” and act properly. Misplaced Pages isn’t the right place to propagandize for “God elit nations” as Greece.]
Put a protection on the Armenia site the guy is going to keep putting that Turkey information and images] 21:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
On ], you said: "I have some concerns of of yours. It violates ], in the sense that we shouldn't really be discussing other editors in this manner. I'm not quite sure what it proved by pointing out people's blocks logs, and such comments can only sidetrack the discussion. In fact, it was quite provocative. Please don't make such comments like that again. Violations of WP:NPA and ] are considered a very serious matter—and usually end with blocks with the length being increased each time. <tt class="plainlinks">]]</tt> 02:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)"


List of users involved:
:Noted, however I strongly disagree with your assessment; such comments are justified in this particular context. In a RfC the topic of discussion is the editor who is subject to the RfC, but it is also relevant and sometimes even necessary to discuss the past behaviour of the other contributing editors. ´


* ] (sysop) recently probated and unprobated, suspected sock puppet of Euthymios
::] states: "''Remarks describing an editor's actions and made without involving their personal character should not be construed as personal attacks.''"

::] states: "''This does not include'' ''reading a user's contribution log; those logs are public for good reason.''"

::Finally, ] states: "''An RfC may bring close scrutiny on all involved editors''".

:If you had contributed to that RfC I would have examined your block log in the same manner that I examined every other editor who contributed to that RfC. I would also have mentioned my own block log if it contained any items.

:However, I do agree that outside of a RfC such comments would be considered inappropriate, since talk pages in Misplaced Pages are provided in order to discuss improvements in an article (which might be why you have reacted so strongly as to actually issue a warning).
:On a more general note: the entire process of a Request for Comment regarding a user could be regarded as a violation of ], ], and also quite provocative. --] 05:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

::I have noticed that you have placed a sign on this talk page that you are {{]}}, yet show multiple edits after that. You have stated that my behaviour "''usually end with blocks with the length being increased each time''", which is a very serious allegation in my opinion. I am ] in your failure to respond both on my talk page and yours, but I am also starting to become concerned about your lack of response. If you feel that the warning left on my talk page was not justified you could consider striking it (<nowiki><s> and </s></nowiki>).--] 06:04, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:::OK, you're not busy, just lazy (). My concern was that you were quite verbal when you wrote the warning. I think I understand your reason for a lack of response though, and I will let the matter rest. Sincerely, --] 06:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== Response ==

On my talk page ] has written: "I think the warning is way too soft but the dismissive response from this particular user was only to be expected. His disrputing the user conduct RfC with trollish remarks totally unrelated to the subject in question is pure trolling as well as endless discussions the user conducts very much in line with ]. The defence above with selective citing policies that obviously do not apply to the user's behavior is not even worthy a responce. --] 06:29, 2 December 2006 (UTC)"

Since you wrote the original comment, I would now strongly urge you to strike it out if you believe it is inappropriate. Othwerwise I would strongly urge you to elaborate on it. Please respond. --] 06:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:Ok, I'll let the matter rest. No ] on my part. Sincerely, --] 06:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

==Cabal team of sysops/users-sock puppets undermines WP’s reliability promoting Greek nationalistic propaganda POV==
A well collaborated U.K. based group of WP sysops and WP users has been spotted working systematically in full daily basis to promote ultra natioanalistic Greek POV, distorting related articles. They intervene in any related new article, push Greek POV edits, make edit wars, repeated reverts, permanent deletions, block users, make merges and redirects to unrelevant articles. Their main target is to monopolize articles against Turkey, Rebublic of Macedonia, Bulgaria, Albania, their minorities in Greece and their history. They attack every POV against Greece transforming it to Greekish POV.
All redirects result in deletions. Practically this action is equivalent to speady deletion because redirected articles are deleted ,not included to target articles. This also prevents permanently recreating them under same name.

List of abusers involved:

* ] (sysop) He has been recently probated and unprobated
* ] (sysop) * ] (sysop)
* ] (sysop) * ] (sysop), suspected sock puppet of ] and others
* ] , suspected multiple sock puppet, * ] , suspected multiple sock puppet
* ], suspected multiple sock puppet * ], suspected multiple sock puppet
* ] * ]
* ] * ] suspected multiple sock puppet, and confirmed sockpuppet of ]
* ] * ]
* ] * ]
* ], collaporates to Khoikhoi and Aldux , impersonator of ]
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* ] * ]
* ]==

Some of them are suspected employees-agents of Greek National Intelligence Service (E.Y.Π.). Others are suspected members of ultra nationalistic organizations of Greek interests and some act as sockpuppets.

The situation has become unacceptible. Chek their “contributions” and act properly. Wkipedia isn’t the right place to propagandize for “God elit nations” as Greece.] <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:06:43, 2 December 2006|&#32;06:43, 2 December 2006|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:Oh my, the side-effects of ultra-nationalism is something else. ] 08:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

==Personal attacks, harrassment, baiting and pestering by user:Oden==

] has writte the following on ]: "User {{User|Oden}} has been recently involved exclusive in a controversial activity of challenging selected by him users attacking their images. I put aside for now the issue of the interpretation of the ] policy as good people obviously disagree in good faith on the policy interpretation as well as the policy itself. However, even if one chooses to take upon himself such a sensitive task as implementing a policy for the good of Misplaced Pages, such task can only be taken with utmost sensitivity to other editors. With a couple of other editors joining what many perceived as a disruptive crusade in whose process the worst attitudes were displayed, several editors opened a ] against one of such crusaders. Notably, the RfC is not about the policy or implementing an unpopular policy but about the unacceptable attitude and abusive ]."

"Shortly after, ] posted to the RfC ] disgusting attack directed at all the involved editors bringing all sorts of unrelated issues that had no relation to what the RfC was about thus substituting tackling the issue with attacking the opponents. And hour or so ago Admin:{{Admin|Khoikhoi}} who was not involved in the dispute in any way gave Oden a (rather soft IMO) reminding of WP:NPA and ] policies. Reaction of ] was barrage of irregular stuff."

"When I on his response as being lacking the substance, Oden responded by a series of entries where he baits Khoikhoi and brings up another barrage of irrelevant stuff (see also ])."

"Third party input is requested. --] 07:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)"

:You wrote the original warning, so I would really appreciate it if you could provide some input. I appreciate the fact that you are a serious and valuable contributor to Misplaced Pages. I will take any positive suggestions from you on how I can improve my contributions to Misplaced Pages to heart. --] 10:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ...==
... for your comments . I did not know that he had once again reported me. I've tried to explain why I believe he is stalking me. I hope that comment helps to settle down the conflict.

] 16:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

==Khoikhoi is a clown==

This guy is a fucking clown. I urge all users to make appropriate actions so this guy gets out off here fast!. As for me koink koink, I ll always be there to correct your mistakes] 21:17, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|With regards to your comments on ]:&#32;}}Please see Misplaced Pages's ] policy. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to ] for disruption. Please ] and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. <!-- Template:No personal attacks (npa2) -->] 07:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
::Nina, you're supposed to put the warning on the ''attacker's'' talk page..--] 07:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I did. I thought I was supposed to put it here as well to let KhoiKhoi know that it was done, and he could remove it at his leisure. I actually read that I could remove it, but that didn't seem right for me to do. In any case, I apologize. ] 07:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== Sockul nou lui Kaltsef ==

{{vandal|Odor5}}--] 21:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:BTW when does Kaltsef get his permaban? Mywayyy already had his by now. Kaltsef has more socks (both as anon IPs and accounts) than Mywayyy ever had - can't we get a range block or something?--] 21:29, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== recent problem ==

Khoikhoi I am kind of pissed of because the article has been a bloody propaganda piece. it dosent fall near to an article at all. When ever a turk makes a change you are ready to do a revert and sometimes with really rude explenations like "nice try". But people such as clevelander remove simlest data like "also some western historians say no genocide". Recently Clevelander removed my document adits and some peoples comments in the talk page no one is there to revert or warn him. Fadix returned again with insults and attacks no one took time to warn him. is writing insults in latin makes them less of an insult.. if so let me know. Arent you the only admin active in these pages. Why are you only active agains our actions. Also I know you thought "maybe" only some Armenians rebelled check out my latest adits taken from Western newspapers. Originals are posted as well. if you are interested.] 22:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


Clevelander doesnt stop vandalism. inorder to hide the newspapers I posted he first deleted them. I reverted. Now he archived it but after cleaning up my edits and posts ofcourse.

==Another request==
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It's too much trouble to maintain the ratings system. I think WikiProject Armenia would be better off without it. -- ] 01:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks! :) -- ] 01:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
==Your User Page==
Is beautiful. If you took the picture, you do excellent work.
] 07:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
:All those beautiful faces...thank you.
::I saw your "friend" above - I'm trying to find the appropriate template to place on his talk page - I think I have it.] 07:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Lesson 1(well, the third actually): see block log first!
I should have known that you knew what you were doing. I keep a few things I find hilarious on my talk page as well;).
] 08:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== Hey you crypto-] admin! ==

Why did you indef block ]-ef? How are we supposed to have fun now? :-) Check , it appears you have more work to do... ]] 12:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

:Hi Khoi, thanks for the info, no problem on my part. I'm only concerned now that the Greek Secret Service has been informed I'm a sockpuppet of yours, they will want to cut both our wages. ] ] 18:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== More vandalism and insults by ] ==

Take a look at this user and his edits: . He has been reported for an IP check . Other sockpuppets have been blocked. Please protect my talk-page and user-page against vandalism. Thanks. ] 15:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

==Juro==

Could you please tell Juro to calm down and stop calling me a '''liar''' and '''extreme nationalist'''. I would be very, very happy. Thanks! --] 20:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you help me? --] 20:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

What?! He call you a fascist too! This is unbelievable! Wouldn't it be better if we ignored him '''both'''? --] 20:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Already done! ]

You could add the attacks against you too. --] 20:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== Put Protection ==

Put the Protection as you see there is vandalism ] 21:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Khoikhoi is this "Gevork Nazaryan armenianhighland.com copyright © 1997-2006" ok for Copyright pictures? Ararat arev 21:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC)] 21:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:52, 3 December 2006

WARNING YOU ARE VISITING A BASTARD’S PAGE

This user belongs to a well collaborated (Greece and U.K. based) group of WP sysops and users that has been spotted recently to work systematically in full daily basis propagandazing ultra natioanalistic Greek POV, and distorting related articles. This user intervenes in any Balkan history and politics related article, push Greek POV, launches edit wars, and repeated reverts in vandalized by him versions, permanent deletions, blocks users, makes merges and redirects to delete undesired articles. His main target is to monopolize all articles against Turkey, Rebublic of Macedonia, Bulgaria, Albania (Chameria,Northern Epirus), their minorities in Greece and their history. He attacks every POV against Greece transforming it to Greekish POV. He is dangerous for Balkan stability and must be blocked indefinetelly from Misplaced Pages.

This user is also suspected agent of Greek National Intelligence Service (E.Y.Π. Κυπατζής) and follower of ultra nationalistic organizations of Greek “national interests”, as L.A.O.S. and Chrissi Avgi. He’s also mulriple sockpuppet and impersonator of his group members. He is a schizophrenic web vandal unacceptible to wikipedian community.

To verify chek his “contributions” and “talk page” and act properly. Misplaced Pages isn’t the right place to propagandize for “God elit nations” as Greece.User:prespan

List of users involved: