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Hausa People.

Please tell me where my edits are wrong. The Hausa people food and clothing are Original and have no relation whatsoever with that of the Yoruba or the Shuwa. Rather the Yoruba have adopted Hausa style of food and clothing into their culture such as Gari or Garri (being a Hausa word meaning powdered grain) from Cassava which the Hausa have cultivated for centuries long before the Yoruba got cassava introduced to them by the Portuguese. As for clothing, the Yoruba are closest to the Bini people of Edo state in culture and History and you cannot see any Bini man wearing anything close to Hausa dress. Anyways, i will cite sources and references soon enough.Ppdallo (talk) 14:21, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hausa People

What I added on Hausa people is completely verifiable with references. Nothing controversialI. For instance, if you could take the time to google Paul E. Love joy book “Salt of the desert Sun ...” 1986. This extract is from that book “Hausa tanners made leather aprons and loincloths, cushions, bags, sandals, saddles and other horse ... So- called Moroccan leather was in fact often leather imported from the central Sudan or other parts of West Africa“. Actually am new to Misplaced Pages so I have not digested all the rules. I will take the time to compile all references and re-edit. Right? Ppdallo (talk) 00:26, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

November 2018

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Misplaced Pages again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Mahveotm (talk) 11:39, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Hausa people, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Caution for unsourced inflation of numbers (the one source added does *not* support the numbers added...). - Tom | Thomas.W 13:15, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello Mahveotm, Thomas.W I would greatly appreciate it if you guys could join me on the Hausa people talk page to discuss my intended edits as I have already started the discussion. Cheers Ppdallo (talk) 07:48, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

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Its great to hear from you Ppdallo, let me formally welcome you to Misplaced Pages. I hope you find this place friendly and decide to stay here. We need more Nierian editors on Misplaced Pages, and since you are interested in Hausa articles, I'm guessing you can speak the language as well. Joining Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Nigeria is quite easy, what you need to do is to click here, then click edit on the "participant" section that you will be led to; after that edit the list, and add your account by using the four tiles that you used to sign your posts. If you have questions, please feel free to ask me. I'll be very very glad to assist, that is why I'm here.

On the toxic nature of your first experience, the thing is anyone can edit Misplaced Pages, so regular editors who ensure the encyclopaedia is free from vandalism might seem unfriendly but I can assure you that once you understand the rudiments of editing, you'll enjoy the friendliness among editors in the community. I don't want you to see it as "trouble", its more of the learning curve that most new editors go through. I'm glad you're still jovial about it, a good sense of humour and not taking unfriendly experiences such as this too seriously might come in handy. Above all, remember to ask me anything you aren't too sure about. HandsomeBoy (talk) 20:57, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your soothing and encouraging words HandsomeBoy and I am glad having someone like you to hold my hand during my tottering steps through Misplaced Pages. I believe in free, genuine information and its copious availability to all. Yes I speak the Hausa language very well and hope I will be of use in that and many other regards.Thanks once again! Ppdallo (talk) 08:27, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Hausa people

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Ok. thanks, bro!

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Edit on Yoruba

It must be duly noted that the use of the term 'Yarabawa' by Sultan Bello or any other earlier usage as it occurs in the Hausa language simply means nothing other than 'Oyo people' same way 'Kanawa' would be Kano people and 'Larabawa' would be Arabs. As such, the 'when', 'why' and 'how' of how the term transformed into Yoruba and came to be adopted, accepted and POPULARISED to include all speakers of the Yoruba language which was indeed a consequence of the early literary works of Crowther Ajayi a saro of Oyo origin needs to be duly noted and not merely reduced to a reference to the use of the term 'Yarabawa' by Sultan Bello. Thank You.

Trying to change history how??

Your approach to Misplaced Pages edits is that of an ethnic supremacist and not one of a scholar, and that is vandalism.. The origin of the name Yarabawa and its Hausa connection is clearly in the wikipedia article, if you would further like the reference the Fulani sultan Muhammad Bello's earlier use of the term as a descriptive for yoruba people in the article, that is completely up to you. But it was the exonym for Oyos- not for all the others, I don't know how that is so difficult for you to understand. How the name Yaraba or Yarabawa or Yorubawa or any other variation thereof became the general name of Yorubas today is what constitutes the second part of the piece on etymology. At the beginning of the 19th century there were several competing names that were in wide usage to refer to the generality of Yoruba people. Aku was one, Yoruba was another, Anago was another, and Lukumi was yet another. In colonial documents and in records of Yorubas in the trans atlantic slavery, All these versions appeared in equal measure with Anago being the most popular until all of crowther's early groundbreaking literary works that used 'Yoruba'. Yorubas don't have Hausas to 'thank' for the existence of their ethnic group like you wrote earlier on my talkpage, because the ethnic groups didn't begin with the adoption of that name, I don't know what you are thinking. You stop trying to simplify the narrative. Ok, and in case you don't know I am an ilorin indigene who is part Pullo (Fulani). My previous wiki user name was Bappa.

Yes, trying to change history and steal Hausa Culture

Muhammadu Bellos etnography contribution must be noted here and not only Ajayi Crowther. Hugh Clapperton requested to know what the Hausa "called the people of Oyo to their south" and he told him "Yarabawa" which was a plural of Ya raba. The alternative name Aku is Also Hausa, meaning parrot(alluding to the talkative nature of Oyo people) which the Hausa found in abundance in Oyo. Also you should know that there was never a Yoruba tribe in history, without that Hausa name all the myriads of tribes calling themselves Yoruba today would rather be known as ife, modakeke, ijebu, egba, ekun etc etc.. I see that you claim to come from Ilorin. If truly so, would you help correct all the false information on How Islam got to Yoruba land? If you don't do it i have a plan on doing it.

Yorubas have to thank the Hausa for not only giving them name but for giving them culture in terms of religion, cloth, musical instruments and Ajami literacy. WITHOUT HAUSA CLOTHING STYLE THAT THEY GAVE THE YORUBA, THEY WILL BE REDUCED TO WEARING ONLY EUROPEAN CLOTHING AS A LOT OF THEM STILL DO TODAY.

Take discussion to topic talk page

My origin as an Ilorin Person is not the same as that of being yoruba. Ilorin has a unique history in Yorubaland different from all the others. No problem if you plan on working on the history of Islam in Yorubaland as long as you have all the necessary historical references to back it up. But note that Wangara muslim traders were in Oyo for a long time as stated in the article, and Hausas and Dendi came as a second wave, and Fulbe as a third.

So now Aku means parrot because the Oyo people were talkative? At this stage, I believe you are just making things up by the way.

November 2019

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