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| :* I'm sure you would, but does it meet ], has it been the subject of multiple non-trivial references in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject, or are you claiming that ] and ] trump ], ], ], ] and ]? <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 17:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC) | :* I'm sure you would, but does it meet ], has it been the subject of multiple non-trivial references in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject, or are you claiming that ] and ] trump ], ], ], ] and ]? <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 17:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ::* Obviously your referencing a non-existant policy and saying that "you are sure" I would find it interesting is sarcastic and bordering ]. I was simply voting. Why do you have to bash the vote and make a derogatory remark about my motives? Do you have something against me that I can't vote here without comments like that? -] 03:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | ::* Obviously your referencing a non-existant policy and saying that "you are sure" I would find it interesting is sarcastic and bordering ]. I was simply voting. Why do you have to bash the vote and make a derogatory remark about my motives? Do you have something against me that I can't vote here without comments like that? -] 03:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| :::* ...or you could answer the question. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''' No reliable sources for this. Goose eggs for Google News and Books and plain-vanilla Google only returns , which doesn't bode well for something that exists only online. ] 18:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' No reliable sources for this. Goose eggs for Google News and Books and plain-vanilla Google only returns , which doesn't bode well for something that exists only online. ] 18:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Delete''' per nom, JChap2007; borderline {{tl|db-web}} stuff. As for recording every last MUD, ], or the Internet Archive either. Perhaps if Husnock read ], his keep votes wouldn't need glossing by editors who have. ] ] 13:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' per nom, JChap2007; borderline {{tl|db-web}} stuff. As for recording every last MUD, ], or the Internet Archive either. Perhaps if Husnock read ], his keep votes wouldn't need glossing by editors who have. ] ] 13:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
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TOS TrekMUSE
Independent sources? None. Number of players? Not stated. Innovation? None stated. Non-trivial external coverage? None listed, and with only about 700 Ghits including Misplaced Pages and mirrors I don't see much evidence that any exist. So: this loks on the face of it like yet another generic online game, just like all the other ones we delete for the same reasons. Guy (Help!) 13:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - Not another damn Star Trek page. At least the other ones stated their sources and references. This page is just pointless. I vote for deletion. Debaser23 14:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Comment It was Mud of the Month at mudconnector in March 1999, not that that means much, and they did an interview with the admins thereof. The earlier deletion debate asserted they'd interviewed Shatner and Nimoy. There are transcripts here. I don't see that this in itself has any bearing on its relevance. There is no mention of the MUSE at the official Trek website that I can see. Coming from the mud end, This thing refers in passing to the TNG TrekMuse, which is now defunct, and Richard A. Bartle rates it worth a mention. Morwen - Talk 14:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: Never knew something like this existed and its pretty fascinating. Would like to see more. -Husnock 14:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sure you would, but does it meet WP:WEB, has it been the subject of multiple non-trivial references in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject, or are you claiming that WP:INTERESTING and WP:ILIKEIT trump WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:NPOV, WP:NOR and WP:RS? Guy (Help!) 17:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Obviously your referencing a non-existant policy and saying that "you are sure" I would find it interesting is sarcastic and bordering WP:CIV. I was simply voting. Why do you have to bash the vote and make a derogatory remark about my motives? Do you have something against me that I can't vote here without comments like that? -Husnock 03:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- ...or you could answer the question. Guy (Help!) 23:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete No reliable sources for this. Goose eggs for Google News and Books and plain-vanilla Google only returns 416 unique hits, which doesn't bode well for something that exists only online. JChap2007 18:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, JChap2007; borderline {{db-web}} stuff. As for recording every last MUD, WP:WING, or the Internet Archive either. Perhaps if Husnock read WP:ILIKEIT, his keep votes wouldn't need glossing by editors who have. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Comment TrekMUSE claims to have hosted two interviews with members of the original series' cast (Shatner and Nimoy on both occasions, with DeForest Kelley joining them on one). If this is true, it's clearly notable; not many online games draw that kind of attention from their inspirations. The problem is sourcing. The only source I can find that seems likely, aside from directly contacting an actor's publicist or something along those lines, is Net Trek: Your Guide to Trek Life in Cyberspace by Kelly Maloni, Ben Greenman, Kristin Miller, and Jeff Hearn. Published in '95, which is when those interviews occurred, by Random House. I am ill and unlikely to get to a library to check before this AfD expires, but the ISBN is 0679761861, if anyone would like to try. Shimeru 04:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)