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| For that reason, it seems clear that the best way to preserve NPOV is to remove this example from the list; to quote ] again, "there is probably not a good reason to discuss some assumption on a given page, if an assumption is best discussed in depth on some other page." Placing ''either'' side of the argument on this page would require, for NPOV, discussion of the highly disputed nature of the charges that ''does not'' belong here on this page. I think the only sane solution is to remove that one highly questionable example and hope that the other thirty-three will be enough. -- ] 18:56, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) | For that reason, it seems clear that the best way to preserve NPOV is to remove this example from the list; to quote ] again, "there is probably not a good reason to discuss some assumption on a given page, if an assumption is best discussed in depth on some other page." Placing ''either'' side of the argument on this page would require, for NPOV, discussion of the highly disputed nature of the charges that ''does not'' belong here on this page. I think the only sane solution is to remove that one highly questionable example and hope that the other thirty-three will be enough. -- ] 18:56, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) | ||
| :If this removal of text was done by a person that had no declared bias against Scientologists, I would have considered it. Coming from a person with a declared unsympathy for Scientology, it is unacceptable. I am puting that text back in the article. This is has NOTHING with perserving NPOV, and everything to do with preserving '''your''' POV. '''Reverted''' --] 05:19, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC) | |||
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What was the African nation that rioted when they tried to hold the Miss World pageant there? Would that not serve as another example? Wesley
Possibly. The list is at the moment rather US/UK-centric; what do other countries have moral panics about? There are certainly the vanishing penis/witchcraft panics -- are these moral panics? --- The Anome
Reasons for deletion
The reasons for deletion are very simple. This is the article on "moral panic", where we explain what a moral panic is, and give examples to make that explanation clearer. Even if we included only those examples "about which there is no serious dispute", to use the phrasing of WP:NPOV, a list of thirty-three examples really should be more than enough. To include "examples" over which there is indeed serious dispute does not truly clarify the topic, and in fact it violates the principles of NPOV.
Yes, the Church of Scientology does indeed make the claim that there was a moral panic over Scientology in Germany in the 1990's. This is a claim in serious dispute, however, just as is the Church's claim that the modern German government is persecuting them just as Nazi Germany persecuted the Jews, with such phrases as " bloody crimes of psychiatry didn't end with the decline of the '3rd Reich'" and "In the 1930's, it was the Jews. Today it is the Scientologists.". If anything, it appears that with actions such as their full-page New York Times advertisement headlined "Germany Then And Now" over the eagle-and-swastika insignia, the weight of the evidence would show attempts by Scientology to incite a moral panic against Germany -- not the other way around.
For that reason, it seems clear that the best way to preserve NPOV is to remove this example from the list; to quote WP:NPOV again, "there is probably not a good reason to discuss some assumption on a given page, if an assumption is best discussed in depth on some other page." Placing either side of the argument on this page would require, for NPOV, discussion of the highly disputed nature of the charges that does not belong here on this page. I think the only sane solution is to remove that one highly questionable example and hope that the other thirty-three will be enough. -- Antaeus Feldspar 18:56, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- If this removal of text was done by a person that had no declared bias against Scientologists, I would have considered it. Coming from a person with a declared unsympathy for Scientology, it is unacceptable. I am puting that text back in the article. This is has NOTHING with perserving NPOV, and everything to do with preserving your POV. Reverted --Zappaz 05:19, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Moving on
Perhaps we could have a Moral Panic category?
Of the top of my head, hair-cutting demons in China are another example- Fortean Times have had quite a few discussed over the years.