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{{User|NuclearUmpf}} is under Arbitration Committee sanction under the username Zer0faults, he has changed to the new name noted above. The final decision in their case is here: | |||
Constant edit warring and personal attacks at ] | |||
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All offending behavior refer to the finding linked above and specifially to this sentence: | |||
''He may be banned for an appropriate period of time from an article or set of articles which he disrupts by tendentious editing or edit warring'' | |||
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He is insisting against any consensus that a link to a POV timeline be included, and that a NPOV tag be added to the article. There have been a handfull of editors taking turns removing his additions but it needs to stop, none of us should have to put up with this...and I don't like his personal attacks on the talk page and edit summaries | |||
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User:NuclearUmpf
NuclearUmpf (talk · contribs) is under Arbitration Committee sanction under the username Zer0faults, he has changed to the new name noted above. The final decision in their case is here:
Constant edit warring and personal attacks at September 11, 2001 attacks
- The following diffs show the offending behavior
All offending behavior refer to the finding linked above and specifially to this sentence: He may be banned for an appropriate period of time from an article or set of articles which he disrupts by tendentious editing or edit warring
- Summation
He is insisting against any consensus that a link to a POV timeline be included, and that a NPOV tag be added to the article. There have been a handfull of editors taking turns removing his additions but it needs to stop, none of us should have to put up with this...and I don't like his personal attacks on the talk page and edit summaries
Reported by: Rx StrangeLove 16:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Yaksha
I am not certain if this is the correct place to post this, so if it needs to go elsewhere, please let me know. However, since there is an active case at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Naming Conventions, this seemed the right place to start. One of the issues in the case is that one of the users has been engaging in hundreds of non-consensus page moves. The arbitration case has been accepted, but Yaksha (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is continuing to engage in more non-consensus page moves, with no attempt at RM procedure for these articles, and in violation of consensus that's already been reached as to how those articles should be named (see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Buffy/Episodes). I request administrator assistance in reverting these moves, so that the arbitration process can continue with a minimum of confusion. --Elonka 22:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- This has nothing to do with this page, which is for enforcement of final decisions. In any case, I would rather not see any more moves in either direction for the moment, and I have asked Yaksha to stop for the time being. But I'm not interested in reverting them either. Redirects exist, so there won't be any long term harm in waiting for the outcome of the case. Thatcher131 23:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Intangible / User:Intangible2.0
Intangible (talk · contribs) is under Arbitration Committee sanction of some sort.
He is performing a slow edit war at Talk:New-Flemish Alliance, not accepting a differing point of view, refusing to engage in a discussion.
- The following diffs show the offending behavior
83.182.207.220 23:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Can you provide us with what ArbCom case you are referring to. I or any other admin cannot take action until a case under which the sanction was given is provided. Thanks —— Eagle (ask me for help) 00:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- See Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Intangible. However, evidence that User:Intangible2.0 is the same editor as User:Intangible is needed. Intangible (the first one) recently listed his userpage on MfD and indicated he was leaving the project. It's possible that Intangible2.0 is an imposter account intended to poison any possibility of Intangible's returning later. Newyorkbrad 00:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Before much more talk goes on here we are going to have to have a checkuser investigate. So, could a checkuser investigate into this matter? Thanks. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 06:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, the outstanding question is: Is User:Intangible2.0, the same user as User:Intangible? —— Eagle (ask me for help) 06:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, Intangible, Intangible2.0, Pinkos, and Pinko1.25 are all the same person. Dmcdevit·t 06:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, the outstanding question is: Is User:Intangible2.0, the same user as User:Intangible? —— Eagle (ask me for help) 06:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Before much more talk goes on here we are going to have to have a checkuser investigate. So, could a checkuser investigate into this matter? Thanks. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 06:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- I have indefinitely blocked all the sockpuppets but since I'm not very familiar with the case, I'll leave the blocking of the main account (Intangible) for the better informed admins. --Srikeit 08:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- See Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Intangible. However, evidence that User:Intangible2.0 is the same editor as User:Intangible is needed. Intangible (the first one) recently listed his userpage on MfD and indicated he was leaving the project. It's possible that Intangible2.0 is an imposter account intended to poison any possibility of Intangible's returning later. Newyorkbrad 00:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- This is complicated. The content that Intangible2.0 edit warred over was the statement that some members of a political party are neo-nazis. This is highly inflammatory, and talk pages are also subject to WP:BLP (not to mention Godwin's law). I have removed the comments. Further, Intangible has abandoned his original account, so Intangible2.0 is a legitimate replacement account. But, by editing via the Pinkos accounts he showed intent to evade his arbitration restrictions by using a new account without telling Arbcom, so 24 hour block on Intangible2.0, after which he may resume editing under the same limits imposed on Intangible. Thatcher131 14:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Instantnood POV-pushing at Single-party state
Three arbitration cases have been filed against Instantnood, regarding his POV-pushing and edit-warring on China-related articles.
- The first arbitration case closed prematurely.
- The second arbitration case resulted in him (and Huaiwei, who tried to stop Instantnood) being placed on probation and restrictions imposed on him.
- The third arbitration case resulted in him (and Huaiwei) being placed on indefinite general probation.
His actions have resulted in him being banned from many articles, including Singapore. After being banned from an article, he will move on to another article, and get banned from that article, and move on to another, and so on.
Recently, he has been POV-pushing and edit-warring on single-party state, insisting that Singapore be included in the list of single-party states. As a Singaporean, I know that we are a dominant-party system, not a single-party state, as we have elections and the opposition has 2 seats and 33% of the votes, despite facing discrimination imposed by the ruling party.
Instantnood made 3 reverts in slightly over 2 hours, although he did not violate 3RR. He also made disruptive and deceptive edits on the talk page.
His only supporter in the dispute is Regebro. Besides Huaiwei (who has also had sanctions imposed against him) and Vsion, Terence Ong and I agree that Singapore is not a single-party state.
I request that an administrator enforce the arbitration restrictions (such as probation) imposed on Instantnood, and if neccesary, impose further sanctions or start another arbitration case. In addition, as consensus is against him, and Singapore was not on the list of single-party states before the edit war started, I request that it be removed from the list.
--J.L.W.S. The Special One 01:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- I see the potential for a probation violation there but he last edited the article on November 5; I'd like to see some indication that he is returning to the issue before I ban him from it. I'm not going to take a position on the content dispute; you could ask for a third opinion or try to find a reliable source that supports your view that you can cite in the article. Thatcher131 16:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- As the Arbcom is less interested in factual correctness, but in the appriopriateness of behavior by wikipedians, lets concentrate on the later rather then the former. In this case, may I point out that I have often noticed instantnood's tendency in engaging in disruptive behavior pertaining to Singapore-related articles, in what I strongly suspect to be a tit-for-tat move from my edits pertaining to Hong Kong-related articles. Since the entire dispute boils down to a disagreement over the political status of HK on the international arena, it dosent come as too much of a surprise when Instantnood therefore partakes in enforcing an "undemocratic" label on Singapore, a stance which has noticibly gained in aggresiveness almost in tendem with what happens to HK-related articles. For this to happen over an extended period of about 2 years or more, I doubt it would boil down to mere coincidence. Instantnood clearly could not seperate personal emotions and ego from accurate representation of fact, and the upholding of wikipedia's NPOV policy.--Huaiwei 16:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- User:Hildanknight, do you actually know what the original section title of that thread of discussion at talk:single-party state was ? Did you notice user:Nightstallion also made an revert to single-party state ? (and those who want Singapore removed from the list are all Singaporeans, as according to their talk pages?) Could you please be reminded to provide the entirety of the facts? Thanks. — Instantnood 18:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Could you explain the relevance of "the original section title" and allegations on your disruptive behavior in that particular talkpage? May I also point out that it has been noticed that User:Nightstallion has repeatedly shown symphathy towards your political viewpoints by frequently reverting edits made by your "opponents" without any explaination. Why arent you providing full facts on this also?--Huaiwei 12:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please elaborate on how user:Nightstallion has shown sympathy, and tell what my politicial viewpoints are? (And meanwhile, what does explaination mean? Guess it isn't Singaporean English, yet I found no such word in dictionaries.) For the first question, who has insisted to change the section title in that particular talk page? — Instantnood 07:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Use of rollback in a content dispute is ,at best, frowned upon, and at worst, admin abuse. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please elaborate on how user:Nightstallion has shown sympathy, and tell what my politicial viewpoints are? (And meanwhile, what does explaination mean? Guess it isn't Singaporean English, yet I found no such word in dictionaries.) For the first question, who has insisted to change the section title in that particular talk page? — Instantnood 07:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Could you explain the relevance of "the original section title" and allegations on your disruptive behavior in that particular talkpage? May I also point out that it has been noticed that User:Nightstallion has repeatedly shown symphathy towards your political viewpoints by frequently reverting edits made by your "opponents" without any explaination. Why arent you providing full facts on this also?--Huaiwei 12:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- I have blocked User:Instantnood for 24h for probation violation and have put him on a 1-revert per article per day term. Hopefully this will clear out any issues that are outstanding, and allow Instantnood to continue to make good contributions to Misplaced Pages. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 05:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- I am satisfied with Instantnood receiving a 24-hour block for violating his probation. In addition, I agree with him being placed on 1RR, a restriction that applies to all articles. However, I'm not sure if administrators are empowered to place an editor on 1RR. If only the Arbitration Committee is empowered to place an editor on 1RR, can they do so only if a fourth arbitration is filed? --J.L.W.S. The Special One 14:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Such penalties are at the Administrator's discretion, although ArbCom or Jimbo may as always overturn them at their will. My best suggestion is to report again if he is edit warring, and he will be blocked for a greater term. The 1rr may be brought up in a fourth Arbitration if you wish, it would definitely "stick" more. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge aka "Wiz" 22:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- I am satisfied with Instantnood receiving a 24-hour block for violating his probation. In addition, I agree with him being placed on 1RR, a restriction that applies to all articles. However, I'm not sure if administrators are empowered to place an editor on 1RR. If only the Arbitration Committee is empowered to place an editor on 1RR, can they do so only if a fourth arbitration is filed? --J.L.W.S. The Special One 14:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Instantnood Redux
It was brought to my attention that another war between User:Instantnood and User:Huaiwei was brewing on Talk:Single-party_state. In the course of looking into the dispute, I browsed through Instantnood's recent contributions; its pretty disturbing. Once again, Instantnood has gone on a spree of reverting Huaiwei, SchmuckyTheCat and other editors. Some of the edits he reverted had been stable since November 18th , , . More than a third of his edits today have been reverts of the same type that lead to his probation. The last week long block doesn't seem to have resolved the problem entirely. I would support blocking for a longer period of time - any other opinions or ideas at better options? Shell 16:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Under his general probation he may be banned from the site on the judgement of 3 admins. I haven't looked over your new allegations yet, but if true I would support a site ban. His last site ban was two weeks, given 6 months ago, so I'm not sure we can conclude that it no effect; I would suggest another two
monthsweeks. I'll look over his contribs tonight, plus we need a third admin. Thatcher131 19:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC)- I am willing to be the third admin to subscribe to a ban, but would incline to 1 month rather than 2. Bucketsofg 21:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant 2 more weeks, since his pervious 2-week ban was 6 months ago, there is not obviously a case that 2 weeks is too short to modify his behavior. A month would not be out of line. Let me finish reviewing his edits. Thatcher131 21:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your planning to take necessary actions. As you may have already noticed, it's the edits by user:Huaiwei, user:Alanmak and user:SchmuckyTheCat that keeps the reverts persist. Read their arguments in talk pages and edit summaries, and anybody with some basic knowledge and analytical skills can be able to tell. I sincerely hope there are people, no matter mediators, administrators or members of the arbitration committee, to help bring the trouble to an end through real discussions. Block and ban is never helpful to anybody, nor to any article, to get out of such dispute. Thank you. — Instantnood 21:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- The thing you seem to keep misunderstanding is that your reverting is incredibly disruptive. You've been the subject of multiple arbitration cases and eventually banned from a number of articles because you continue to revert and edit war instead of using the dispute resolution processes. You need to find another way of dealing with your concerns or avoid the articles that cause you this problem. Continuing to revert, especially when no one else saw fit to revert the changes in 3 weeks, just isn't at all productive and does nothing to resolve the situation. If you're having the same issues with multiple editors over the same disputes, you need to consider that you position may not be the majority and you need to develop consensus for your changes through rational discussion. Shell 22:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- I have been calling for third parties to take part in discussion, yet very few people are willing to help. Administrators or members of the arbitration committee simply ask everyone to stop, without doing anything constructive to get the matter out of the trouble. There are many of these articles (and categories and templates) which the majority of editors are simply confortable in both ways I, and user:Huaiwei and user:SchmuckyTheCat prefer. They don't care what has happened with the articles and they edit based on whatever version latest by then. — Instantnood 22:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- The thing you seem to keep misunderstanding is that your reverting is incredibly disruptive. You've been the subject of multiple arbitration cases and eventually banned from a number of articles because you continue to revert and edit war instead of using the dispute resolution processes. You need to find another way of dealing with your concerns or avoid the articles that cause you this problem. Continuing to revert, especially when no one else saw fit to revert the changes in 3 weeks, just isn't at all productive and does nothing to resolve the situation. If you're having the same issues with multiple editors over the same disputes, you need to consider that you position may not be the majority and you need to develop consensus for your changes through rational discussion. Shell 22:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- My general view is that remedies should escalate. If the changes inspired by two weeks was only temporary, something more than two weeks is in order. Bucketsofg 22:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Unless something helpful and constructive is done, the problem would still be there even if all parties are blocked for weeks or months or longer. It's not like I don't discuss. Quite the contrary I want genuine discussion (please read the way they response). — Instantnood 22:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps Instantnood is the problem. Huaiwei and others got into edit wars because he started them. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Unless something helpful and constructive is done, the problem would still be there even if all parties are blocked for weeks or months or longer. It's not like I don't discuss. Quite the contrary I want genuine discussion (please read the way they response). — Instantnood 22:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your planning to take necessary actions. As you may have already noticed, it's the edits by user:Huaiwei, user:Alanmak and user:SchmuckyTheCat that keeps the reverts persist. Read their arguments in talk pages and edit summaries, and anybody with some basic knowledge and analytical skills can be able to tell. I sincerely hope there are people, no matter mediators, administrators or members of the arbitration committee, to help bring the trouble to an end through real discussions. Block and ban is never helpful to anybody, nor to any article, to get out of such dispute. Thank you. — Instantnood 21:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant 2 more weeks, since his pervious 2-week ban was 6 months ago, there is not obviously a case that 2 weeks is too short to modify his behavior. A month would not be out of line. Let me finish reviewing his edits. Thatcher131 21:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- I am willing to be the third admin to subscribe to a ban, but would incline to 1 month rather than 2. Bucketsofg 21:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
0RR for Instantnood?
There are a number of edits Instantnood makes that are genuinely useful and I'd hate to lose that because of his strong political beliefs. I don't think any time based ban on Instantnood is going to change the situation - it has not worked in the past. He returns to the same behavior and warring on the same articles. What has worked has been the page bans. An extrapolation on that would be a 0RR for Instantnood; once reverted (or changed) he cannot make the same edit again to the same article. He would be free of course, to make rational discussion for his edit on the talk page for someone else to do it. SchmuckyTheCat 04:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- If you ban him from an article, he can continue his antics on another article. I support a sanction that applies to all articles. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Under 0RR, he could only move the antics once per article, that is managable. SchmuckyTheCat 05:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Since 0RR is a sanction that applies to all articles, I support this proposed remedy. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 10:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Under 0RR, he could only move the antics once per article, that is managable. SchmuckyTheCat 05:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please detail what you think my strong political beliefs are? In the past there was serious backbite towards using Republic of China to refer Taiwan, Kinmen, Matsu, etc., collectively, nevertheless the official name has since been adopted by other official guideline. If that's political beliefs, it's rather like misunderstandings towards, and reluctance to accept, some comparatively lesser-known realities. — Instantnood 07:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- lesser known realities, yes, exactly. SchmuckyTheCat 07:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- You may perhaps be interested to take at look at Misplaced Pages talk:categorisation. — Instantnood 19:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- lesser known realities, yes, exactly. SchmuckyTheCat 07:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Fourth arbitration case?
The mediation on the talk page will probably fail. We should consider escalating this to a fourth arbitration case against Instantnood, letting the arbitrators decide what further sanctions should be imposed on him. Besides the content dispute, there is sufficient misconduct by those involved to warrant a fourth arbitration case:
- POV-pushing by Instantnood despite being placed on probation after his third arbitration case.
- Personal attacks by Regebro:
- Personal attacks by Huaiwei:
- Possible administrator abuse by Nightstallion (using rollback in a content dispute):
I'm not saying that we should take this to arbitration, just that we consider it. I know that arbitration is a last resort, and hope we can resolve this without resorting to arbitration.
--J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- If that's a content dispute (as you've concluded ) then why would the edits to the article and the remarks at the talk page be POV-pushing? — Instantnood 07:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- When other contributors try to combat POV-pushing attempts, a content dispute may result. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 10:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- I understand User:Instantnood is on a probation, and that there is a long history of conflicts between him, Vsion and Huaiwei and perhaps others. This is unfortunate. However, I would like to point out that lthough there has been a heated debate, I at least have not noticed any personal attacks or other bad behaviour from Instantnood (although there have been a little from some other users). The dispute, which has had a request for mediation done earlier this week, is about Singapore status, basically if it is a democracy or not. User:Hildanknight's claim that Instantnood is POV-pushing is simply false. There has been some editwarring regarding the title of a section in the talk page, but that was Huaiwei who started and continued that by changing a section-title that Instantnood started, where in my opinion Instantnoods title is much more appropriate. I don't know if it's normaly acceptable behaviour, but it can not be blamed on Instantnood, and it is honestly rather silly to start disputing what the section title used in the dispute should be. ;)
- I don't follow Instantnoods behaviour in general, but there have been no bad behaviour from him regarding Single-party state. Therefore it is rather difficult to see why this should in anyway be escalated into an RfC against him (or anyone else). To me this feels like you are trying to use threats of RfCs to indimidate him to fold in the debate. And when you start mentioning making an RfC against me as well, that only increases that feeling.
- Yes, I agree. The mediation will probably fail. But that will not be because of lack of effort from my side, and it will not be because Instantnood has done anything wrong in this dispute. --Regebro 18:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Regebro, it was Huaiwei, not I, who threathened to file an RFC against you. In fact, I discouraged him from doing so. I admit I was mistaken about the edit warring over the section header.
- If you read the three arbitration cases, you will know that Instantnood has been editing China-related articles to make them conform to his political views, which constitutes POV-pushing. This is why he has been placed on indefinite general probation, and banned from editing many articles.
- As Huaiwei, one of the users who tried to stop his POV-pushing, is from Singapore, Instantnood started edit warring and POV-pushing on Singapore-related articles. Instantnood is trying to make the Single-party state article conform to his political view that Singapore is a single-party state. The dispute would not have taken place if Instantnood had not started POV-pushing on Single-party state.
- Instantnood has constantly found ways to get around the restrictions that have been imposed on him. Hopefully, a fourth arbitration case would stop his edit warring and POV-pushing once and for all. In addition, the arbitrators will investigate the conduct of others involved in the dispute, especially Huaiwei and Regebro.
- I don't like to get involved in people politics; I find contributing to articles a more productive and enjoyable activity. I have a chess tournament tomorrow, so I need to get some sleep. Good night.
- --J.L.W.S. The Special One 14:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I used "you" as the plural here, sorry if that caused any confusion. Indeed, Huaiwei has threatened with RfC against me, and you are threatening with arbitration against Instantnood, although in fact none of us has done anything wrong in this case.
- I have read the arbitration cases, and therefore I know that Instantnood and Huaiwei has been editwarring. Both are on probation because both of them used editwarring instead of discussion to push theior POV. You are incorrectly trying to blame this dispute on Instantnood, although he is not the cause to the conflict in Single-party state.
- If you don't like to be involved in people politics, perhaps you should stop making this a people politics case? Up until you added it to this noticeboard it wasn't about people politics, and in fact, on the talk-page it still is about the factual issue, and I wasn't aware of your accusations against Instantnood until yesterday. Maybe we can stop this and again make it a factual debate? That would be constructive. --Regebro 15:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Instantnood et al are currently in Mediation regarding the Single Party State dispute, if this is what this is about, I suggest that Arbitration be stayed at least until the Mediation is closed. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge aka "Wiz" 23:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Problems with User:Iantresman and Wolf Effect
Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience says that Ian is on probation for science articles. Reliable sources are important for many of the articles we edit. Yet I'll note this edit to Wolf Effect had Ian including sources from a variety of unreliable sources, none of whom were basic researchers in the field. This included a science writer (not a scientist): Jeff Kanipe, a self-employed crystal technician C. F. Gallo, and employees of Xerox Corp. How are these reliable sources for basic research into quasar redshifts? They don't study the material. Ian knows this, but he continues his tactics anyway, in violation of his probation. I ask that he be banned from editting Wolf Effect. --ScienceApologist 13:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hmmm. My instinctive reaction was to block him to forestall further problems while htis is considered, but I have to say I'd be a lot happier if this were other than a bilateral dispute, given both of your past histories. Please make an effort to reach some kind of accommodation on Talk, or at least to encourage other editors to venture an opinion. I have told Ian to stop it, let's see if a shot across the bows has any effect. Guy (Help!) 16:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I don't think anyone else has Wolf Effect on their watchlists. Will try talking. --ScienceApologist 16:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Arthur Ellis socks again
User:Arthur_Ellis is violating the terms of Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Warren Kinsella, under which he is forbidden from editing his own page, Mark Bourrie. He is violating both of these with 209.217.123.163 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and Keeperdog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log). 209.226.201.243 01:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Could a checkuser confirm this please? —— Eagle (ask me for help) 06:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Arthur_Ellis is to old to check directly, but looking at the evidence in the RFAR, the technical evidence supports the conclusion that Keeperdog and 209.226.201.243 are Arthur_Ellis. Essjay (Talk) 06:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Both socks are now blocked indefinably, by me. , . Main account (User:Arthur_Ellis) appears to already be blocked indefinably as well, by User:Yanksox. The block of the main account occurred back in 02:18, October 23, 2006. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 07:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- I have unblocked 209.217.123.163 due to the fact that I misread the Check User response above. I have left a message for Essjay for clarification on which IP is at fault. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 18:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keeperdog should only be blocked for one month. Arthur Ellis was blocked at his own request. Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Warren Kinsella would allow a brief block for editing his own page, he was also blocked generally for one month under Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Rachel Marsden so the one month block should be reset for block evasion. There's no point in blocking the IP longer than 24 hours because it is dynamic and he can change them as often as he wants to. Thatcher131 18:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- I have unblocked 209.217.123.163 due to the fact that I misread the Check User response above. I have left a message for Essjay for clarification on which IP is at fault. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 18:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, those probably got transposed. 209.217.123.163 is at fault. Thatcher is correct that it's a dynamic IP so blocking it is a somewhat futile exercise. Mackensen (talk) 18:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think you can pretty much assume that any Bell Canada IP that jumps to Mark Bourrie or Warren Kinsella is part of the Bourrie brigade; likewise any Magma IP (such as 209.226.201.243 who posted this) is part of the Kinsella crew. Unfortunately these two middle-aged Canadian bloggers have decided to bring their rather childish personal dispute to Misplaced Pages. Thatcher131 18:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- I did reset the block on User:Keeperdog to 1 month as proposed by Thatcher. Details can be found here. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 19:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Just to confirm: It was a transposition, both were 209 addresses, and when I scrolled up in edit view to copy the right one, I got the signature rather than the other one. Essjay (Talk) 01:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Moby Dick
I have blocked this user for one week for continuing to stalk Cool Cat, in direct violation of his Arbcom ruling. The diffs in question are , and . Bastiq▼e 20:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- If it's a done deal you don't have to report it here, but it should be logged at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Moby Dick#Log of blocks and bans. Thatcher131 01:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Appeal of unjustified block
(Details here.) The blocked user had (1) responded "makes for interesting reading!" where his name was used (in a link to the RfAr); (2) endorsed Elaragirl's summary in an RfC about her, with the words "Well said, Elaragirl!"; (3) posted supportively to Elaragirl's talk page. These were not forbidden by ArbCom, and cannot reasonably be termed "stalking" or "harassment" of Cool Cat. There are COI issues about this block; the blocking admin has already refused an unblock request (unless ArbCom tells him to unblock); thus I request ArbCom review this appeal and those linked details quickly so as not to let an unjustified block be prolonged. – SAJordan contribs 19:54, 10 Dec 2006 (UTC).
User:Andries
user:SSS108 alleges that user:Andries repeatedly violates the arbcom ruling on Sathya Sai Baba in the article Robert Priddy by inserting a link critical of Sathya Sai Baba authored and managed by the subject himself i.e. Robert Priddy. See talk:Robert Priddy and See Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Sathya_Sai_Baba/Proposed_decision. A request for clarification of the arbcom on this issue by user:Andries was ignored by the arbcom and move by the clerk user:FloNight to the talk page of the arbcom case. See Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Sathya_Sai_Baba.Andries 19:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- I am personally getting tired of Andries filing all of these frivolous complaints, continually attempting to circumvent the ArbCom ruling. Andries was given a warning not to include the link he is trying to include: View Warning. As I have stated before, Andries is attempting to push his Anti-Sai agenda despite the ArbCom ruling because he was the former webmaster and current "Main Representative, Supervisor and Contact" for the largest Anti-Sai-Baba website on the internet. His agenda is clear and he should stop using Misplaced Pages as a soapbox and battleground for his Anti-Sathya-Sai-Baba/Cult/Guru POV. He has no intention on stopping and has inserted the link 4 times, 3 times today so far. See: .... SSS108 19:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- I am also getting tired of your inappropriate attempts to minimize criticism of Sathya Sai Baba plus your disinformation campaign about me as a webmaster of www.exbaba.com Your own website correctly states another name. Andries 19:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- I am only following WP:EL that says that the homepage of the subject in quesiton should be linked to. Andries 20:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Once again, that link is not Priddy's homepage. His homepage is already listed on his wiki-page. The link you are trying to add is an Anti-Sai site specifically attacking Sathya Sai Baba. See what I have to deal with? SSS108 20:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- Once again it fits the wikipedia definition of a homepage and hence should be linked to. From Homepage
- "A personal homepage is a World Wide Web site belonging to one person. It can be about that person or about something he or she is interested in. It is used for informative or entertainment purposes, but not for commercial reasons."
- Andries 20:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Robert Priddy has 3 Anti-Sai websites in addition to his homepage. His homepage link is already provided on his wiki-page and his 3 defamatory Anti-Sai websites are in violation of the arbcom ruling because they contain wholly negative, critical, personal stories composed of original research. You can whine, hiss and gnash your teeth all you like. It won't change the fact that admin already commented on this issue and said you are wrong for trying to include that link: View Warning. Period. End of argument. SSS108 23:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I understand that you two are having a problem with a contentious link, if you would like, I could try to mediate this matter if you would like. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge aka "Wiz" 21:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
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