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:'''Nominator's rationale:''' These categories are leftovers from 2 previous discussions which resulted in deletion for ''countries and territories by language family'' (] and ]). Actually, they were created by the main opposer in the course of the first discussion, and a similarly-named ''Italic-speaking countries and territories'' was deleted following the second discussion. ] (]) 11:12, 21 February 2020 (UTC) :'''Nominator's rationale:''' These categories are leftovers from 2 previous discussions which resulted in deletion for ''countries and territories by language family'' (] and ]). Actually, they were created by the main opposer in the course of the first discussion, and a similarly-named ''Italic-speaking countries and territories'' was deleted following the second discussion. ] (]) 11:12, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
* '''Support''' per nom. ] (]) 11:59, 21 February 2020 (UTC) * '''Support''' per nom. ] (]) 11:59, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
* '''Support''' per nom. I am watching these topics due to recent work and debate concerning Germanic speaking peoples. What I now understand clearly is that (1) national/ethnic groupings might be held together by mutually intelligible dialects, but not mutually un-intelligible language families that you have to study to understand (2) many examples show that when sources or WP editors speak of language-FAMILY-united nations it is ONLY ever connected to claims connecting the modern peoples to a common ancestry or something else uniting them apart from just the theoretical language family. (Consider that while Jamaicans are obviously an English speaking people, no one wanted to call them a Germanic speaking people. English is a real language, Germanic is a family, and you can see how they are treated differently.) There has been a lot of confusion created by these types of "language family = ethnic family" categories and it has spilled over into serious article problems, where attempts are made to try to force articles to fit with such 19th century conceptions.--] (]) 14:04, 21 February 2020 (UTC)


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February 21

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Women political candidates

Nominator's rationale: I struggle with the Category:Political candidates category in general because running for office in and of itself is not defining, but I do not see how this intersection of political candidacy (which is an event, not an occupation) and gender passes WP:CATGENDER. TM 13:46, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep but change into a container category. The subcats at present do seem to be defining: Hillary Clinton for instance would probably see it as other than a mere event. Oculi (talk) 13:55, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Outer Planes

Nominator's rationale: Few articles, only "Outer Plane" and "Plane (Dungeons & Dragons)" should be upmerged. TTN (talk) 12:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Dungeons & Dragons fiends

Nominator's rationale: Also upmerge to "Fictional demons and devils." Few remaining articles, and that number is going to be reduced even more. Redirects should be moved to "Category:Dungeons & Dragons element redirects to lists‎" if not already listed there. TTN (talk) 12:12, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Romance-speaking countries and territories

Nominator's rationale: These categories are leftovers from 2 previous discussions which resulted in deletion for countries and territories by language family (8 January and 17 January). Actually, they were created by the main opposer in the course of the first discussion, and a similarly-named Italic-speaking countries and territories was deleted following the second discussion. Place Clichy (talk) 11:12, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:59, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. I am watching these topics due to recent work and debate concerning Germanic speaking peoples. What I now understand clearly is that (1) national/ethnic groupings might be held together by mutually intelligible dialects, but not mutually un-intelligible language families that you have to study to understand (2) many examples show that when sources or WP editors speak of language-FAMILY-united nations it is ONLY ever connected to claims connecting the modern peoples to a common ancestry or something else uniting them apart from just the theoretical language family. (Consider that while Jamaicans are obviously an English speaking people, no one wanted to call them a Germanic speaking people. English is a real language, Germanic is a family, and you can see how they are treated differently.) There has been a lot of confusion created by these types of "language family = ethnic family" categories and it has spilled over into serious article problems, where attempts are made to try to force articles to fit with such 19th century conceptions.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 14:04, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Disney Revival

Nominator's rationale: Subjective term that appears to be used only in certain corners of Disney fandom. Trivialist (talk) 11:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Disney Experimental Era

Nominator's rationale: Subjective term that appears to be used only in certain corners of Disney fandom. Trivialist (talk) 11:06, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Criminals from Middlesex

Nominator's rationale: Only 1 - from Hayes, which is now in Greater London. Rathfelder (talk) 10:55, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Visual arts

Nominator's rationale: rename per parent category Category:Visual arts. Note that Category:Art redirects to Category:Visual arts. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Spree shootings

Nominator's rationale: Effectively WP:OVERLAPCAT where the only difference between the two is multiple locations. But even then a mass shooting may also include multiple locations. Spree shooting redirects to Spree killer while Mass shooting has its own article. Tagged only the head category so that the rest could be merged upon consensus on this one. Brandmeister 08:23, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:LGBT-related media by region

Nominator's rationale: merge for two reasons:
  1. We never put continents and countries in categories by region, e.g. Category:Continents and Category:Countries don't have Category:Regions as a parent, in contrast we have a Category:Regions by continent. So the nominated category is actually empty because there aren't any regions in it
  2. It is an unnecessary extra category layer with only two subcategories which just hinders easy navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Oposse 1) "I havn't seen this before therefore it's bad" is not an actual argument. 2) "Region" does not have to imply part of another country or continent, it simply means an area of surface on the planet. 3) The fact that you personally think it is not helpful doesn't mean that's true, for example I find it helpful to have country and continent categories within a region category because it cleans up the main category. Having to click one time does not mean it "hinders navigation".★Trekker (talk) 13:05, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Poisonous minerals

Nominator's rationale: Every mineral is poisonous. If not deleted it should be defined how poisonous a mineral needs to be for inclusion in this category (e.g. would all the articles in Category:Arsenate minerals belong)? DexDor 07:10, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Films directed by Kovelamudi Surya Prakash Rao

Nominator's rationale: Match the parent article: K. S. Prakash Rao. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:44, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Files copyrighted by the Wikimedia Foundation

Nominator's rationale: Apparent duplicate, empty, and with no description as to how to populate. Doing a search (in all namespaces) on the category name revealed no template nor module usage so categorizing can only be done manually, unlike {{copyright by Wikimedia}}. Dpleibovitz (talk) 22:53, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Attacks in Nigeria in 2012

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer, since nearly all attacks concern terrorist incidents that have their own category tree. The two articles in 2014 should also be merged to Category:Attacks in 2014. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:08, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Animated Harley Quinn films

Nominator's rationale: Too few entries. There is no need for this category. ★Trekker (talk) 21:09, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Venom films

Nominator's rationale: Too few entries. There is no need for this category. ★Trekker (talk) 21:07, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:English rock violists

Nominator's rationale: only 5 rock violists in total after they are merged Rathfelder (talk) 21:55, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:English rock oboists

Nominator's rationale: only 1. Not necessary to divide the British category Rathfelder (talk) 21:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Identity

Nominator's rationale: split, per main articles Identity (philosophy) and Identity (social science). As the first article explains, the two concepts are quite different. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:09, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:People educated at Westminster School

Nominator's rationale: The above two categories appear to be duplicates, the one without the London disambiguation being the newer one. The disambiguation is necessary to differentiate the category from Category:People educated at Westminster School, Adelaide as mentioned in this discussion. Thanks. 72 (talk) 01:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Merge per nominator. Clear duplicate, and the disambiguator is needed.
Re-create the Category:People educated at Westminster School as a {{Category disambiguation}} page. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:30, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Post-dissolution Netherlands Antilles

  1. Category:2011 in Netherlands Antilles sport
  2. Category:2011 in the Netherlands Antilles
  3. Category:2012 in Netherlands Antilles sport
  4. Category:2012 in the Netherlands Antilles
  5. Category:2013 in Netherlands Antilles sport
  6. Category:2013 in the Netherlands Antilles
  7. Category:2014 in Netherlands Antilles sport
  8. Category:2014 in the Netherlands Antilles
  9. Category:2015 establishments in the Netherlands Antilles
  10. Category:2015 in the Netherlands Antilles

Nominator's rationale: The Netherlands Antilles was dissolved on 10 October 2010, so these categories are anachronisms. I have depopulated them, and categorised the articles correctly. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Support Grutness...wha? 01:10, 21 February 2020 (UTC)