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NetObjects, Inc.

Can you visit the NetObjects, Inc. article again? It was tagged as advertising. I made some changes to meet the complaints. What is your opinion? --Peter Eisenburger 11:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Who is able to place an advert-tag? --Peter Eisenburger 06:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Considerating your advice I did some further editing. However I wanted to keep the numbers because that's what people want to know about a company.--Peter Eisenburger 07:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. So, I can go on writing more articles ;) --Peter Eisenburger 09:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I make it in a row ;) NetObjects Fusion will be the next article due in autumn 2006. I already have some pieces and images also. Probably after that I will go on with a smaller article covering Rae Technology as the "missing link" between Apple and NetObjects. --Peter Eisenburger 06:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. --Peter Eisenburger 12:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Great! Thank you for your time and your work. I know I uploaded before proof-reading, but I wanted to take the space of that article before someone else, because I already invested a lot of time. Additional proof-readings by 2 people for factual errors and better English will take place though - although English probably cannot be improved after your corrections ;). Last week a friend who teaches English literature at the University came with quite some corrections on the NetObjects, Inc. article - mainly prepositions.

As you might have noticed my mother-tongue is German and I use it in a more secure way than English. For instance the chapter "Texte" in this article is completely written by me. However, IMO overall quality of English Misplaced Pages is better and it is more of a challenge to me.

The next article/s? I guess I have to change the red links into blue ones ;). In other words: fill gaps. The very next article will be "Rae Technologies", the (in Misplaced Pages) missing link between Apple and NetObjects. I will run into problems there, because most of the sources on "Rae" lie buried down in print archives. Accessible material will do for a short article, which will easily get tagged with a stub-banner. On the other hand original research - which I could do in this case - is not allowed which I see as one of the problems of Misplaced Pages. --Peter Eisenburger 08:12, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: Your Message To Me

You wrote:

Exact how are links to photo galleries of the subjects in question considered "commercial links or links to your own private websites"? There is no "advertising" involved, as you claim, as the links indeed point to photo galleries of the subjects involved. None of these galleries are my own personal websites. In fact, I am being very generous with my free time in even adding these links in the first place. I am doing this for the sake of helping out other people who may be interested in seeing more photos on the subjects in question. I gain absolutely no benefit from the work that I'm doing, other then the "good feeling" of knowing that I'm helping others. I am not hurting Misplaced Pages, or anyone else. Quite the contrary, I'm trying to make Misplaced Pages better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.184.226 (talk • contribs)

While I appreciate your enthusiasm for adding to Misplaced Pages, I don't think the links were proper as they were to a file upload service who account owner was a commercial website. The photos themselves are of questionable legal standing. You adding it to the top of the External links sections didn't help matters either. -- Gogo Dodo 06:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

disputing the Branham High School article

Sorry about that, I was just tagging my friend's article for fun. I did not know it would show up immediately. Again, sorry, and have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Windows2142 (talk • contribs)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 05:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Bolivia

Can you try and do a revert on this? Whatever I do, I can't change it, or revert. It has a lot of accumulated vandalism. I think maybe going back to 2006-10-04T10:02:21 219.79.53.194 will remove most of it. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 02:29, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalise

Moved from my User page. -- Gogo Dodo 02:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry. I shall never vandalise another page again. (Omit this edit, I am unable to email you) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.226.158.32 (talk • contribs)

Hello

1. The Website(http://dunkers23.googlepages.com/stevefrancis) does not have any banners or pop ups nor does it encourge buying products. 2. The website is Non profit 3. The website has nothing but Steve Francis highlights and dunk videos. There is no reason not to put the website up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.3.113.6 (talk • contribs)

You're link spamming and several other editors agree with me. -- Gogo Dodo 21:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

List of photographers

Thank you for your repeated deletion of unsuitable content.

Unfortunately, the average article-worthy photographer has an article that isn't worthy of them, or of course no article at all. If you're into additions as well as (very helpful) removals, do please consider "adopting" a photographer. (And of course there are some very dubious photographer articles too. A lot might be PRODded for vanity or lack of verifiability or both. Actually I have one in mind right now.....) -- Hoary 07:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

This user is a recent changes patroller. Whew, you're a tougher (wo)man than me. I used to patrol new pages, but cumulatively, over time, the degree of vanity and puffery made me depressed about the human race.

I send you a virtual book token ("It's the thought that counts", right?) for a couple of good photo books. -- Hoary 08:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Your message to me

Hello, I am new to Misplaced Pages and have added some links to bank pages on Misplaced Pages. You commented that the links were in violation of the external link policy. The website to which I have linked, myBank.com, provides listings for every branch in the U.S., free of charge.

As I understand the policy, the links satisfy multiple categories of proper Misplaced Pages links. Specifically, the links, which link directly to branches of banks with Misplaced Pages pages, provide "neutral and accurate material" and "meaningful, relevant content". Moreover, there is no attempt to profit from the user. The website does not require registration or include advertising. And, the site is accessible, useful, and tasteful. The data is correct, is based on FDIC data, and is updated to ensure its substantive longevity. Furthermore, in an attempt to be a good Misplaced Pages "citizen", (1) the links I included directly link to the relevant bank's branches (thereafter, a user can narrow the list as desired); and (2) I have always put these links after the official link of the bank. Finally, I thought I was being helpful by making the link very clear: "Find this bank's branches on myBank.com."

I welcome your feedback, as I have every intention of being a good wikipedia "citizen". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.208.193.24 (talk • contribs)

The problem with your added links is that it provides no additional content that the official bank sites do not already provide. While I applaud your wanting to contribute to Misplaced Pages, I don't think this was a proper addition. -- Gogo Dodo 04:12, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Peg Lautenschlager

User:24.196.119.219 has removed the "Controversy" section from the Peg Lautenschlager article again after you warned him about doing that. I have reverted his most recent edits. --TommyBoy 03:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I just read your reply and I agree that it appears to be "whitewashing". Unexplained removal of properly-sourced or insertion of poorly-sourced negative information in U.S. politicians biographies by anonymous users seems to have become a major problem on Misplaced Pages. I have previously had similar problems when editing the articles on Mitch Daniels, Jo Ann Emerson, Claire McCaskill, and Jan Schakowsky. --TommyBoy 05:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

My user page

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Have a good day--M W Johnson 04:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 05:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

No worries

No worries, fellow alliance member! I agree, it was pretty weird...Maybe keep an eye on that person. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 07:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

User page

much like the gent above, thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. much abliged Hu12 20:01, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 20:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

template: Infobox cityma1

Hello: I was having trouble with the town MA template accepting both the city manager and mayor, as well as recognizing the city council info. Since Worcester has a manager council form of government, I thought the template may be appropriate for other cities with that plan of municipal govt. I couldn't get the townma template to show all three offices. All important to show in council manager city goverments. I copied the townma template and added/changed so it would work. I hope that works for you. Let me know if you can suggest an alternative.

pmeleski 10/11/06

fast work

I was just going to revert Cbow's vandalism to the Voyager 1 page but you got there before me. I'm pretty much a newb, so I was reading the help:Reverting page when you did it. Good job. Since I am a newbie, what does one do about that kind of vandalism? Can you block that user? I left a comment on his User page, not knowing how to do anything else. CharlesKiddell 18:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 21:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks!

You're welcome. I dunno what the nonsense about Foxton is about, but anyways, Ahat has just be indef'd as a vandalism account. Hopefully he'll give up. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 22:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Noloot's user page

You're right; it was an odd comment by yet another newbie or mischief-maker. I blanked the page since the Noloot hadn't put anything on it yet himself. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 05:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

... for helping out on that bizarre situation at Owens Community College last night; appreciate it. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 15:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply

What i did was not nonsense, that was funny shit so leave me alone. Misplaced Pages is for vandalism i think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KeakDaGreek (talk • contribs)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 23:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

PRS

Please stop distroying other peoples works. Before deleting, search the net and find out how the things are. prs IS an abbreviation of pietarsaari. Why else would i have put it there? --81.175.135.229 15:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I am not intentionally destroying your work. I checked the Pietarsaari article and there was no mention of the PRS abbreviation anywhere, so I removed the reference. I take it that you are referring to Pietarsaari's UN/LOCODE. Wouldn't the abbreviation then be "FI PRS" ? -- Gogo Dodo 17:50, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Weirdness

I just deleted the lot of them and the image. I can't see any merit in keeping anything that weird on prod. I think it's best just to get rid of it. I blocked him for a week for now, but if he keeps it up, he's going to end up with an indef block. He's very non-communicative, he doesn't seem to have made a single talk page edit. Thanks for checking back on him. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 07:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

My Last Warning!

Sir, I am not inserting Sapm links and take exception to your accusation.

As per the External Links guidelines point number 5 I am adding my website because it contains other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article.

I wonder if you have taken the time to even look at my site?

I understand your concern because I have added my site to a lot of articles within a short space of time, but I assure you the link is not spam.

I respectfully request that I be allowed to add my site, which is no different from 90% of the other external sites listed, to the articles where your readers would benefit.

88.11.123.233 09:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)88.11.123.233

See point 3 of Misplaced Pages:External links#Links normally to be avoided. Adding links to your own website is bad form. -- Gogo Dodo 02:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I have read that point but the reason is for neutrality and point-of-view concerns. My site contains additional resources and in no way contrdicts the content of the article. To say you can't add a link because you are the owner of the website is ridiculous. -- PlanetPhillip 14:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Kinkaid School vandalism

I WHOISed some of the IP addresses that vandalized Kinkaid's article... they trace to the St. John's School in Houston WhisperToMe WhisperToMe 15:42, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

for catching the anonymous person who was vandalising my pages! The Crying Orc 21:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 22:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank Gogo Dodo

thanks for the advice. but I am trying to improve the aesthetic one of articles on my country. 164.77.106.213 04:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 04:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

well, in agreement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.77.106.213 (talk • contribs)

Image changes

Re Punta Arenas and Arica, Chile What is User:164.77.131.51 trying to do there and why is he so persistent? --ArmadilloFromHell 05:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Help requested

Hi

I'm writing to you - and others - because you are one of several people who appears to have experienced the same thing as I have noticed and experienced.

Namely a pattern of vandalism by an anonymous user. The IP # is 66.229.10.64

See this user's talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:66.229.10.64

This user has been temporarily blocked several times. I notice that the pattern is the same.

The person doesn't seem to respond to polite community requests to engage in dialogue - or to desist from repeatedly making edits that several editors consider to be vandalism.

I am not that experienced in these matters but can there be an attempt made to block this user permanently? Or at least for a period of time so that the person gets a message about respecting the community. Thanks. Davidpatrick 03:23, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - I found your name on the vandal's talk page. You were someone who had expressed frustration with him/her on that page. Davidpatrick 06:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Dabolim Airport

Just wanted to let you know that this edit is not vandalism. The user is trying to get the correct info into the box and is discussing it on the talk page. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 18:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

No problems. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Premarital Sex Merge

According to the Misplaced Pages rules:

Merging is something any editor can do, and if you are sure that something should be merged, you can be bold and do so. If the merge is controversial, however, you may find your merge reverted, and as with all other edits, edit wars should be avoided.

If you are uncertain of the merger's appropriateness, you should propose it on the affected pages. After sufficient time has elapsed to generate consensus or silence (at least 5 days), you may perform the merger or request that someone else do so.

The last comment was in September which means the discussion has been in silence for "at least 5 days". All the information on the page was referring to topics discussed in the article "fornication" and both fornication and premarital sex used the practically the same definition:

Premarital sex is sexual intercourse engaged in by a person or persons who are not yet married.

Fornication is a term which refers to any sexual activity between consenting unmarried partners.

The information is already merged so it is duplicated unless the redirection is in place...do you really want duplicate information floating around wikipedia? Pbarnes 06:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

1. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Merging_and_moving_pages#How_to_merge_pages

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 20:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Userfying

Forgive me if I incorrectly marked a user page for speedy deletion. Is there any way that I can "userfy" them then if I spot 'em? -WarthogDemon 04:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 05:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Axl Rose

Why was my edit to the article about me considered vandalism? It's true, I have never played the ukelele, and I don't kknow how to.

-Axl — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mutsumi (talk • contribs)

Calvin and Hobbes page

why do you keep deleting my image of the plush hobbes on the calvin and hobbes page? you dont OWN the page and many fans have requested that it be posted on this page due to the rarity of the toy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yakkomia (talk • contribs)

why do you keep deleting my image of the plush hobbes on the calvin and hobbes page? you dont OWN the page, everyone has the right to add to it, my addition was requested due to the outpour of requests by the calvin and hobbes fans on the website. they requested that it be posted on wikipedia's C&H page so everyone has access to viewing the rare collectable. This is the ONLY plush hobbes doll ever created by anyone, and the fans would like it posted, because a Hobbes plush doll is something every fan of the comic strip would like to own, but can't due to the fact none have ever been made. So can you please leave the image alone.. it has a small caption and it's not hurting anyone and i haven't changed anything on the page other than a small photo of the rare toy. thanks.

I contacted the Misplaced Pages admins and they said my hobbes photo IS appropriate for the page. They said i have every right to post this item.

-Yakkomia

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 18:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Arthur Livingston Kelley Atomic Dynamics

Oddly, it seems there is a legitimate reference to Arthur Livingston Kelley (google finds him as "A. Livingston Kelley"), from the same author, misspelled, at Arthur Livingston Kelly Nature Center which was merged to Camp Yawgoog. Apparently there was such a person, a preservationist active in Rgode Island education, involved with this kids' camp external link here. Maybe the author went to camp there and felt like inventing this nonsense? Fan-1967 19:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:FYI

Hey Gogo, sorry for the late reply. I did notice those edits regarding that editor and I discovered some age related information on Google. Try a Google Australia name search and you'll see what I mean. I think it pretty much puts his edits in perspective and really, he shouldn't be here for at least another few years, IMO. He seems to see it as a game and not a serious project. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 06:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Disasterous Page Moving

It would seem I've made a rather big error with regards to User:Merebear7373. She made a page which (since it began with Meredith) I thought was intended to be her bio. So I moved it to User:Meredith Tolan instead of User:Merebear7373 and also Meredith Tolan. I'm not even sure if it's a genuine bio so perhaps I made both moves for nothing. Sorry for the messup. Would it be better if I just brought up the >{{subst:nn-userfy}}> instead of moving the page? I feel I should do that since I don't think I'm able to tell when it's a genuine bio and when it isn't. -WarthogDemon 05:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 05:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Mikecraig

Thanks for pickup on the vandalism to my user page :) keep up the good work! --Mikecraig 02:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 04:50, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Re. You sure you're not a bot? =)

Thanks for the notice/good work. Regards.--Húsönd 16:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Re. The Cage

Could you please tell me why my edits to 'The Cage' keep getting removed or reverted? James often calls Fitzy 'Fisty' or 'Fistular'. This is factually correct and not offensive or inappropriate. Please explain. Thankyou. Jonesy 09:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 17:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting the vandalism

Much appreciated. :) Wikiwoohoo 19:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 19:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Harry Potter (character)

Ya beat me :) I have told the user how to correctly upload images in the meantime. Keep up the great work Glen 00:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

PS; Please watch 3RR mate Glen 00:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:3RR, you'll see it says;

I see your point, but strictly speaking what the user is doing is not vandalism. Don't fear as if he does it again breaks the rule before yourself (I have warned him) - but as it isnt "simple obvious vandalism" it's a grey area. You certainly wouldnt be blocked by me - but, others may see it otherwise. Does this help? Glen 00:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, like I said, you'd not be blocked be me (of course) but lets say the other user reported you to WP:AN/3RR then another admin may have to act... its a grey area, but thought you were best made aware. Better to be safe than sorry! :) Glen 01:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

re: FYI

Sorry to come out of nowhere with this, but I thought you should know about this particular edit . It appears that nobody has noticed and I wanted to make sure somebody was aware of what was going on. -- Gogo Dodo 04:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I am afraid that I am a bit at a loss for context. :-( What particularly about this edit needs extra attention? If you could articulate it a bit better with more context I will do what I can. אמר Steve Caruso _(desk/AMA) 07:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi - sorry to interrupt here - I thought I'd better offer my input, having been involved with Nathan's previous case in the past, in Steve's absence. The problem which he was previously having was that he was not familiar with WP:DR - judging by his comments on his next case, I'm willing to WP:AGF that he has learnt what he needs to know - I, for one, will be watching the case. The general issue surrounding this problem is due for discussion at the next meeting, but for now, I've offered Nathan any help he needs (on IRC) :) The friendly AMA bot told myself and Royalguard11 that a case had been taken - Royalguard11 proceeded to find out that it had been taken by Nathan, and I'm sure that both of us will be taking an interest in it. Thanks -- Martinp23 17:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I think I share your fear about bad advice, and agree about the behavoir (3 or 4 RfAs??), but for now I'm going to try to tentatively avoid WP:BITE - ing by letting things run, though I would be happy for Steve to intervene, as he may see it from a different perspective (and - as co-ordinator, he's infinitely more qualified than myself to make such a decision!). Hopefully nothing bad will come of Nathan's actions, though we need to keep an eye on it, I'm sure ;) Martinp23 19:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi - it looks like we needn't worry - the case has now (effectively) ended, and just eeds to be closed by Nathan ()- hopefully this sort of problem will be something we can look at during the forthcoming AMA meeting. Martinp23 20:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for that! •NikoSilver• 10:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 17:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:AIV Reply

Thanks. I'll probably add that and a few other links on my userpage so I can use them in quick reference. Thank you again for the help. :) -WarthogDemon 05:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for reverting vandalism to my user page! It is much appreciated. Keep up the good work! Chris Kreider 01:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 01:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

nonsense?

i don't understand why you took off my entry from the mission viejo high school wiki. all of the information was 100% accurate, and if it wasn't it would be for the community to decide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heytombo1 (talk • contribs)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 07:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. --Kf4bdy 08:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 08:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Yeah. :) Still on the lookout for that one, but I'm guessing things are calmed down. But now my spacebar is acting up. ~_~ Luna Santin 09:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Lasted me long enough to get out my lasts breaths on IRC...

<Luna-San> Aha. Push down hard on the key until you hear a snap.

<Luna-San> Then it will either work, or you need a new laptop.

<Luna-San> Since I'm still typing...

<Luna-San> Well, yeah.

A truly technical solution. Thanks for the spares! Luna Santin 10:00, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiSmle ^_^

WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

?

why don't you want me to delete my page's contents? -alden pascual

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 08:28, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

deletion?

Dude, I have never felt this unwelcome! Most of the admin members I encountered here so far are just power thirsty and bullies. -alden pascual

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 08:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

From Academic Challenger

You're welcome. Thanks for reporting the vandal. We'll probably be targeted by it now, unfortunately. Academic Challenger 07:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for reverting vandalism to my user page! =) --Nehwyn 08:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 17:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Erma Henderson

I wanted to bring to your attention the fact that User:Kjb3212 has recreated the page on Erma Henderson, which you had apparently deleted earlier as a copy-vio. I can only assume the story is the same with this new article. ---Charles 06:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 06:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, pal.

Glad to do it. I swear, I cannot for the life of me figure out why people can't have a bit of self-control when editing here. They do an experiment once, fine. It comes back, not so fine. No wonder I've personally left this project on several occasions. It's just too nutty sometimes. OTOH, it gives me an opportunity to try out this new laptop! I've discovered editing this site via a touch pad really sucks.  :) Thanks again for the nice words. Signing off for now since it's late here. Take care. - Lucky 6.9 07:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

A barnstar - thanks!

		The Original Barnstar
		For the quick reversion of vandalism on my userpage, I hereby give Gogo Dodo a well-deserved barnstar. –- kungming·2 | · 08:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Wilsoncruz

'Users must be appropriately warned using a final warning template, such as {{test3}}, {{test4}} or {{blatantvandal}} before being listed on this page. Users without appropriate final warnings will not be blocked/'

Reporting him won't accomplish anything unless you've followed procedure first. Just saying. HalfShadow 00:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why they bother, myself. It takes us seconds to fix. HalfShadow 00:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism, etc

This must be getting routine for you, but thank you for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Hooray! Viewer 06:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 19:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Aaron Carter

Apologies for the bad revert at Aaron Carter - thanks for the fix. Kuru 05:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 05:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Recent Vandalism On My Page

Thanks for the revets. ^__^ Would that constitute a threat of physical violence? Considering I know not what "death wind" is... -WarthogDemon 06:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Think I should notify someone? I'm not particularly concerned, but if you think I should. >_> -WarthogDemon 06:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

(No Subject)

Thanks a lot. now i better go before my typing teacher chews me out! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blizz boy (talk • contribs)

You're welcome. -- Gogo Dodo 21:26, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Jenny's Height

I've just made a page for Jenny Morris (singer) and for some reason her height refuses to show up in the bio box. Do you know what I'm doing wrong? >_> -WarthogDemon 02:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Congrats On 10,000 Edits

Keep up the good work. ^_____^ -07:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hi!

Re: your message - Hey, good to see you again! Law school is great. I haven't had much time to do anything Misplaced Pages-related - or anything else for that matter, like eat or sleep - but that was to be expected. Looks like you've been racking up the edits! Congrats on #10,000! See you around. - Tapir Terrific 22:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Stop

I can do what I want to do Amercia is a free contrey and If I want to put something on a users page I can becuase I have the rights too. ( Please Respond) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikethebaby (talk • contribs)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 22:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: your 10000 edits message

• Thanks Gogo Dodo. You have also been a great vandal fighter, and I particularly notice that you have reverted my user page several times! If you become an administrator at some point, I am sure you will be a great one. Academic Challenger 01:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

• Damn, you need to be an administrator. Congratulations on the milestone and thanks for the compliments. Say the word and you're nominated. - Lucky 6.9 02:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

• Re your message: Welcome, Vandalfighter Gogo Dodo! 10Grand! Hey, it sounds like its time for a bonus or something. ^_^ --ElectricEye (talk) 03:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

• 10,000?! Congrats! And you've only been here since April 15! Thats awesome, thanks for the message too... appreciated! Now, back to it! :)  Glen  04:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

• Hey, you're welcome! Congrats on the five figures; I remember when I passed that "milestone" too. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 05:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

• Awesome! :) Quality edits, too, from what I've seen. You really should consider a run for admin, if you haven't by now. ;) Luna Santin 07:10, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

I was happy to find your message. People like you make en.wikipedia a place I can call "home" in cyberspace. I thank you too for your friendly help and cooperation. - I am working on the next article but right now my daily job consumes very much time. A (short) Rae article will not appear before the winter holidays. But of course I'm maintaining already published work and contributing a little bit to other articles. Best. --Peter Eisenburger 17:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I would like to...

If you accept my nomination, I will go ahead and create the page. =) I hope you will accept my offer, as I believe you'd make a fine admin. Nishkid64 18:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I think you'll be fine, but I have one suggestion. Try going back to WP:AfD and participate in a few more AfD's to garner some more experience and to show others that you are capable of handling admin tools. I'm currently making your RfA page, and I'll let you know when I'm done with my nomination. Nishkid64 18:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Aite it's ready. Read the admin how-to guide (WP:ARL and WP:AHTG), accept the nomination, answer the questions, and put the RfA on the RfA mainpage when you're done. If you have questions regarding the RfA itself, see WP:GRFA. Like I said before, participate in some AfD's, keep making article contributions, and I think everything will flow smoothly. I think there should be no worries about your experience on Misplaced Pages, since I was able to pass the RfA with less than 3 months experience. I wish you best of luck, and I will contact Lucky 6.9 and ask if he wants to co-nominate you. Nishkid64 18:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

And here are some tips: If someone sees a mistake, admit them. Remember to be civil at all times, and if you get oppose votes, please don't respond to each one of them. Some people, including myself, think that the user is insecure of himself if he/she feels the need to respond to every single user's opposition. Do some AfD's, vote in a few RfA's, make some article contributions, etc. I think you'll be fine. Nishkid64 18:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Dammit, I was just about to do the same thing. You need (yes, NEED) to be an admin. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 22:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Not Completely Sure This Is Harrassment

User:Serlmano has just accused me of "vandalizing" with the removal of his edit . He's received prevous warnings about vandalizing, and on his talk page he changes the content to make him look good and everyone stupid. Reportable? -WarthogDemon 22:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

re:My RFA

Yes that's exactly what I was asking, basically "will you get self important if you're an admin?". I don't think you will, hence (along with other reasons) my strong support. James086 06:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Alrite

thats fari enough, users shud not delete entire entries due to the lack of something that was being filled in as he deleted it.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.92.38 (talk • contribs)

Finally! A Barnstar!

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Pretty much for beating me to vandalism reverts at least five times this night. oO -WarthogDemon 08:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. ^_^ -WarthogDemon 08:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

^ I second the barnstar; thanks for reverting my userpage. Makes me more comfortable about my support vote for your RfA. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 02:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

User 60.226.214.5

I just noticed you warned this anonymous editor awhile back. I added an identical warning just now (except it was a different page - Professional Wrestling in Australia) for adding a promotion that is drug afflicted (the user ignored my previous revert and reference to the talk page). On this occasion that I just reverted they also added a link to a local promotional site which is dangerously biased. It is possible judging by the location of the IP that the external link addition may have been vanity based (that is - it could be one of the three owners). Might be an idea to keep an eye on this IP. With the edit on the Wild On! page already against them they may be facing a block but I haven't added it just yet. Curse of Fenric 21:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know about that (what you said on my talk page). The edits on Professional wrestling in Australia were almost identical. As in the promotion being added. It could be two different people, but that fits because two of three owners of the website that was added are a couple. It can't be the third (unless he's changed his ISP). I'm really keen to protect Misplaced Pages from an Adelaide based political wrestling war, and adding these links and promotions don't help. That's why I removed them to begin with. It's a potentially nasty situation because there are some complete idiots on the scene in Adelaide. Curse of Fenric 06:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the quick revert on my user page! --TeaDrinker 21:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. =) -- Gogo Dodo 04:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Your Message To Me

Edits to the American Pit Bull whatever site? I didn't do anything of the sort? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.159.26.241 (talk • contribs)

I was referring to an edit that occurred back in September. Since you say it was not you, then what happened was that you coincidentally received the same IP address as the previous person. And with a dial-up connection, the chances of that are pretty good. If you're interested in editing Misplaced Pages, I recommend creating an account. -- Gogo Dodo 00:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

See, I knew your RfA would succeed. You're a great candidate, and you're just about 36 hours away from officially becoming an admin. =) Nishkid64 22:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Tranclusion

Just a question-How are you able to transclude User:Gogo Dodo/Barnstars and only have one of the tables show. I checked your user page and there seemed there was no special way to do it. And congrats on your RFA. (reply on your page) editor review me!-TeckWizContribs_{# of Edits} 20:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I believe you asked me to reply here, so... The answer is in the User:Gogo Dodo/Barnstars page. You wrap what you don't want to transclude in between two <noinclude></noinclude> tags. You see that in templates that have instructions on their use. -- Gogo Dodo 21:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh. I never knew what noinclude meant until now. Thanks. editor review me!-TeckWizContribs_{# of Edits} 21:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. =) -- Gogo Dodo 21:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Conservation Status change check

Re: 67.86.121.206 (talk · contribs)

Thanks for the headsup. I had a look at a number of the changes and they were all putting in false information. You can always check the conservation status from the IUCN reference which has been added to most pages. The IP/user has now been blocked for 6 months. (Previously it has had been given 4 blocks for: 24 hours, 48 hours, 1 week, 1 month. —Pengo 23:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah ok. Yep it was a partial update. It can be a bit confusing. The Gemsbok was last assessed in 1996 using 1994 criteria and that assessment appears in the "2006 IUCN Red List" (which is what the iucnredlist.org website is) —Pengo 06:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Well done on passing your RfA with 97% support! I'm sure that a passing Bureaucrat will be along shortly to issue you with a shiny new admin toolkit. If you have any questions about using the tools then please ask, as I am sure that I would like to know how they work as well! Regards, and happy mopping! (aeropagitica) 09:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations Gogo Dodo -you'll do well. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

If you have questions, feel free to leave a talk page message for me or any other admin. Again, congratulations! Essjay (Talk) 10:07, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Uhh... you'd want to have a second look at that template, Essjay. Anyway, congratulations on getting your shiny new flamethrower! May you burn many a vanity page with it. MER-C 10:17, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Grrr. Darned multiple word usernames breaking my links! Essjay (Talk) 10:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations matey! I knew you could do it. If you have any admin-related questions, I'm there for you. =) Nishkid64 17:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Congrats you deserve it! Cheers and may you use the mop to defend the wiki even further.__Seadog 05:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

But I don't waaaaaanna wear pants. :D Anyways, congrats! It's about bloody time you joined the (Admin) Powers That Be. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 05:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Haha, I've never thought about it that way. And yeah, the Ducks are rockin' right now. I went to their game in Vancouver Thursday night. Lookin' good. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 06:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Congrats to you Gogo Dodo! Wishing you happy mopping :)!¤~Persian Poet Gal 06:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Adding my congratulations as well! I have full confidence in you. If you ever need assistance just give me a yell. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 06:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Where the heck are my manners?!? Congrats on the adminship! :) -WarthogDemon 07:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! All the best with the tools :) riana_dzasta 07:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Nothing, good work ;) --dario vet ^_^ (talk) 09:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! 0L1 Talk Contribs 10:37 3/12/2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful RfA. Good luck with mop. :) ← ANAS 14:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I was the first because I was up earlier and there was someone else at the same time officially (albeit edit conflicted), anyway, good luck. :) Bubba hotep 22:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Pile on congrats! Enjoy your promotion. JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 00:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations again Gogo Dodo! Thanks you for your praise about vandal fighting, I do the best I can (with dial up!). You are very deserving of your new powers, and have earned the trust of the Misplaced Pages community. A great challenge, superbly done. Congratulations again, Dfrg.msc 05:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

A gift from TeckWiz

		The Original Barnstar
		For your work in the Survivor articles, I award you with a barnster. editor review me!-TeckWizContribs# of Edits 17:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I think it's time for me to go to sleep!!!

Thanks for your corrections!

But when one can no longer tell the difference between a User Page and a Talk Page, I think it's time to go to sleep.

Regards, conscientious Wikipedian! --Ludvikus 06:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem. -- Gogo Dodo 06:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations Gogo

Hey Gogo. No problems; it was my pleasure to be able to support you. You work very hard for the 'pedia and have earned your mop. If you ever need any help with anything, don't hesitate to ask. As for your membership of the Alliance, your decoder ring, membership card and secret handshake instructions are in the mail. :) Sarah Ewart 14:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
P.S. What's with the "Happy Birthday Susan" cake above? LMAO Happy birthday, Susan!! ;D Sarah Ewart 14:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. You are quite welcome. And thanks for the personalised thank you-- shows class. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 18:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Patrick Star fan site link

I am trying to add my Patrick Star Fan Site's link to the Patrick Star page but you have deleted it twice. I know it is a personal web site and it has ads, but this is the only page that is purely dedicated to Patrick Star at the moment. There are some SpongeBob sites out there, but not any Patrick Star sites. So I think my site deserves to be at the the links section.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.97.80.209 (talk • contribs)

I removed it because fansites are generally not linked to per Misplaced Pages:External links. Linking your own fansite is also a conflict of interest and another reason to not link the page. -- Gogo Dodo 05:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

France 24- Vandalism

A user Universalgenius keeps on making malicious edits to the page even after repeated attempts to tell him to stop on my behalf. The page's quality is suffering, and Misplaced Pages is at stake. Please resolve. Arbiteroftruth 08:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Both user violated against Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks. Also see here: Misplaced Pages:Edit war

• http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Vandalism#What_vandalism_is_not --Universalgenius 08:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense. Arbiteroftruth 08:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

You just said that Misplaced Pages´s rules are nonsense. No they are not. You are ignoring them. --Universalgenius 08:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

No, I am saying your accusations are nonsense. You REPEATEDLY ignored suggestions and consensus, which qualifies your edits as bad-faithed, malicious, and therefore, vandalism. Arbiteroftruth 08:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

No, you are ignoring these above stated wikipedia rules. --Universalgenius 08:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

You are only bending rules to serve your own petty minded interests. Misplaced Pages is not your fiefdom. Get with the program! Also, I am not turning Gogo Dodo's board into a pi** board for you. Arbiteroftruth 08:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

That´s what you are doing. Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks --Universalgenius 08:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Message left for Arbiteroftruth. Universalgenius already taken care of by another admin . -- Gogo Dodo 17:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Content Dispute?

I'm just curious. I requested that a user with the IP address '68.5.242.136" be banned, but it was denied as it was called 'content dispute.' I have to ask why. This guy was banned twice before for doing the same exact thing on the Evernham Motorsports article and similar thing on pages like Erin Crocker and Ray Evernham, in the past. Now, to be honest, I've dealt with this guy since this past summer. I disagreed with an entry of his and edited it. He reverts it back and calls it a conspiracy. I have to ask, on what grounds do you call this a 'content dispute' over vandalism? Thanks. Captain Spyro 21:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate the response, but even after reading the 3RR policy, I can't really say that the user is violating that rule or not. In the past day, he reverted it three times and has done it twice for today. If this continues, then I will report him on that. However, that didn't answer my first question. The user was abnned for the same stuff that he is doing now, so why is he being treated differently here? I don't mean to offend and that is not my goal, but I would appreciate an answer here. Thanks. Captain Spyro 21:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I understand now. Thanks for your time. :) Captain Spyro 22:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Thoughts?

Heh, don't worry. You're doing fine! That's the type of response an administrator should give to another user requesting info. Keep up the good work, Gogo. =) Nishkid64 00:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your review

I want to thank you for the neutral and professional way you handled the request by Captain Spyro to get me blocked. You were easily able to see that it was not vandalism, but rather an attempt to use the words in the court filed affidavit, and in the New York Times as the best sources for readers to understand the situation.68.5.242.136

Uncertainty With Notability

I should like your opinion in wondering if these pages are notable enough alone, or if some/all should be changed into redirects for the respective band:

• Amanda Latona
• Danay Ferrer
• Jenny Morris (singer)
• Veronica Finn
  

They were recently (and intentionally since I created them) put up for AfD by a confirmed abusive sockpuppet. After the sockpuppet was blocked, the afds were removed. However since some valid points of notability were made, I wonder if these should at least be changed into redirects. (The two other members seem to have enough going for them in terms of notability.) Personally I think they all should remain though my view is biased after the sockpuppet, so I'd like a third party to decide for me. -WarthogDemon 22:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Does the band at least meet the requirements? I know it is bare bones, but I've seen other bands that have been just as small as them on here that haven't been contested. (Though granted those have appeared on charts.) I do know of one chart they did hit, but unfortunately there's no record of that so it'd my saying it would probably be considered original research. I pretty much started this article after asking User: Lucky 6.9 if it seemed notable. He said he was surprised there wasn't an article on them, and he hates non-notable band articles. You're the second admin I've asked an opinion on. The first one said the band barely meets requirements and redirects might be good. Should I ask Lucky and break the tie? -WarthogDemon 07:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Well that source would be a small public music video station that used to be on up until about 5 - 7 years ago. Innosense made a video for their song "Say No More" which, if I'm remembering right, was #6 of the Top 10 requested for a while. Though the station is long gone and sold, and even the site has disappeared. The only actual record of it would be in my notebooks where I liked to list the top ten. : / -WarthogDemon 03:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Well #6 of music does keep them barely borderline notable? Sorry, I'm probably pestering at this point. ._.; -WarthogDemon 05:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

thanks

On behalf of millions of children everywhere, thanks for your block to 24.247.172.239. (He was adding disgusting things to Santa's Reindeer page.  ;-) Katalaveno 03:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. =) -- Gogo Dodo 06:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

RazorJones

Filed a report with him on AIV, but he seems to be an active (and racist) vandal. Check his edit history SirFozzie 06:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 06:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Red Organ Serpent Sound

Hello. As this is the fifth time an article has been created and deleted for Red Organ Serpent Sound, would it be possible to protect it from being created again? Thanks for your time. Sparsefarce 21:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 00:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Have a Barnstar on me

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		From a new RC patroller to a somewhat more experienced one :-) - For great diligence in warning and blocking persistent vandals, particularly in recent days those engaging in personal attacks on userpages and talk pages. StoptheDatabaseState 01:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Image Copyright

I don't know what to do. I flagged an image for copyright violation, no admin is deleting it and the users of the photo continue to re-include it in their articles. Would you please investigate this issue. Image:OfficialPhoto.jpg Alan.ca 06:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

The thing with this image, as I understand it, is that an editor received an email stating that this photograph was free to use for any purpose, and then pasted that email on the image description page. This isn't what is supposed to happen -- such emails should go to permissions AT wikimedia.org, where we archive them, and a member of the OTRS team tags the image as confirmed. That said, the last time I got involved with the image issue at the Stephen Harper article it was unpleasant enough that I'd rather address just about any other image copyright issue than that one. If we are going to revisit that image issue again, and, yes, technically we probably should, I really suggest that some other admin do it. Jkelly 02:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Need Help With A User

User:Murkrow has been having a bit of trouble with his articles getting tagged and whatnot. I was able to help him at first but I'm not sure how to go from here. Can you help? ^_^; -WarthogDemon 02:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

It's A Wonderful Life

Looks like we meet again and cooperating once more against the demons of vandalism! Thanks for your hard work! Arbiteroftruth 04:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

It certainly looks like a coordinated attack. Tonight is the night for them because NBC is airing the movie. Those damned images keep popping up like wildfire and they are quite gross. I have already submitted a partial protect request to the admins. Arbiteroftruth 04:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

They denied my request for semi-protection. I guess we are on our own for now with the old p+r (patrolling & reverting). I think the attacks will have about a couple more hours to go at the worst. The West Coast affiliates of NBC are still airing this movie, along with Alaska's and Hawaii's. Arbiteroftruth 04:59, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

No prob, it looks like you've got a lot of fans out there :) ˉˉ╦╩ 02:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Dirty Jobs

Would you like me to take a screenshot of the press release for proof, if so let me know where you will want it sent to. --Josh 15:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick block

...on 86.57.150.218. He/she was just determined to keep reinserting those drug spam links. I appreciate your jumping on them so quickly. --JFreeman 00:09, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 00:13, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Hmmm...

You caught me. oO You've been on my watchlist for some time now. :) -WarthogDemon 07:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Da Chen

FYI, I'm looking at recreating (and totally overhauling) the Da Chen article you deleted. In the state it was in, I was mulling over deleting it myself, but after Googling Da Chen, it appears he's actually a published author who's done some reasonably notable things, so I'm going to try to slap together a stub, provided I can find enough worthwhile content. Regards, JDoorjam Talk 22:10, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 06:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Turns out the original page wasn't just cheesy; it was copyvio: here's the source for the "heart filled with hope" (a line I won't be using in the rebuild). Cheers, JDoorjam Talk 19:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)