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DYK for Torment: Tides of Numenera

On 25 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Torment: Tides of Numenera, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Torment: Tides of Numenera became the first video game project to raise $1,000,000 in under seven hours on the crowd funding platform Kickstarter? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Torment: Tides of Numenera. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Igor Smirnov as "Santa Claus"

Not sure why you seem to be so against the labelling of Igor Smirnov as being nicknamed "Santa Claus", it is well documented across various sources normally considered reputable by Misplaced Pages. I see that you are from Moldova, do you have some kind of nationalist/anti-Transnistrian agenda here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.6.112.154 (talk) 01:55, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Aw, cut it out, the only one who bought into this prank was that poor EUobserver guy, but he removed it as soon as someone asked him not to copy sourceless stuff from Misplaced Pages. All the other "sources" are just copypasta from his article or from Misplaced Pages. Still, thanks goes to the original prankster for demonstrating the positive feedback loop effect in action.--illythr (talk) 18:13, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I was wondering if you could help me

I noticed that you put up a lot of the pictures for the Torment:Numenera website. I was wondering if you could assist me a bit in understanding the process of putting up these images. I am very new to editing wikipedia, and I would appreciate bouncing some ideas off of you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barrett Kinsella (talk • contribs) 15:44, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi there.

Yes, Misplaced Pages's image policy can be rather complicated, confusing and often quite frustrating. The basic point is, whenever you add *anything* to Misplaced Pages, be it text or media files, you do so under a very open licence that allows people to, among other things, make money of your work without owing you a dime (attribution is always required, though). Because of this you must prove that the copyright for the images is yours to give. If you're the author of the image and agree to publish it under that license, then it's pretty easy - just fill in the blanks in the form and slap {{self|cc-by-sa-3.0}} into the license field (but beware of the lack of freedom of panorama in some countries, where you have to be sure that the architect of the building you've photographed died more than 70 years ago). If the image is not yours, you may still publish a few of them under the fair use licence, but there are some really strict rules about that, see here. When a photo is owned by the organization you're affiliated with (like this one), you can follow instructions provided here. One more thing - if you upload images under a free license, it's best to upload them to Wikimedia Commons, so that they cam be used in other Misplaced Pages projects like, for example, this French Misplaced Pages article.

On the images you've uploaded so far:

• The logos should have their resolution reduced to what is needed to display them correctly (about 300-400 pixels horizontal).
• Artwork by Billy Dee Williams - unless the current copyright holder releases the artwork into public domain, there's very little chance that the image will stay, as it is not critically important for the Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz article. You can probably place it into the Billy Dee Williams article, though.
• The 1988 and 2012 group photos will need explicit permission from the copyright owners. If they all belong to the Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz, the simplest solution would be to add a notice on their official website stating that these images are available under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license. If that is not possible, all these images are going to be deleted, because photos of living people cannot be published under fair use (since it's assumed possible to get a free photo as long as they're living). --illythr (talk) 19:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey there!

Thanks for the prompt, thorough response. I tried to put up those selfcc-by-sa tags on the images that I used, and also edited our official webpage (www.monkinstitute.org) to provide notice of the release of these images under that particular license (bottom of page):

http://www.monkinstitute.org/education/international/index2.php

http://www.monkinstitute.org/competition/pastwinnersandjudges.php

Haven't edited the logos yet or Billy Dee's stuff, but I will keep you posted as that progresses.

As you said yourself, the process seems complicated and confusing, but your input has been very insightful and is much appreciated.

If you are from Moldova, your English is pretty good! Also, are you working on the Numenera project yourself, or do you know staff of the project, or are you just a fan? Just curious.

Thanks again for your help

Barrett Kinsella (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:33, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for releasing and adding the images! It is often quite difficult to obtain photos of contemporaries for the articles due to all the licensing restrictions. I added the weblinks you posted here to the image pages themselves to clarify their public domain status for other editors who might stop by. I can also help you transfer the free images to Commons, if you like. I see Billy Dee is a honorary chairman

As for my work on the Torment: Tides of Numenera article, well, I'm a big fan of the original game, so I backed this one during its Kickstarter campaign, seeing as how it's done by many of the same guys and uses an intriguing setting that seems to fit quite well with its themes. I'm otherwise not affiliated with inXile. Not any more than any other backer, anyway. I'm still hoping to convince them to release some concept art images into public domain as you did with yours, though, since the number of fair use images in a good article is expected to be close to zero (even adding the existing ones took quite a bit of effort). --illythr (talk) 20:30, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Katyn massacre

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Yeah yeah. --illythr (talk) 22:53, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

See the page is written in an extremely biased manner that it concocts propaganda as facts. Since the main 2 nations in the anti-communist bloc were the main English speaking nations, the literature would be aligning with them on this agenda. Just saw you have "roll-backer" status, so assuming you are doing this in good faith. I've given a detailed argumentation in the talk page of the argument. Let us see if more people get involved and whether we could improvise the article. Aravind V R (talk) 16:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

The article merely reflects what reliable sources say. None today support the "Nazis did this" version, thus it gets no support in the article. I didn't actually use the rollback feature in this revert, although I admit the edit comment should have been more... detailed. --illythr (talk) 22:20, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Comments/suggestions?

Hi, Illythr. I'd be grateful for any input on this matter on my talk page. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:34, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Been busy

Do hope we get to explore some topics at length in the New Year! I've covered greetings in all the (for me) requisite languages on my talk page. :-) VєсrumЬа ►TALK 03:44, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

I hope so too, but this seems unlikely. I'll probably be even more busy in this year than I was in the last, keeping my activity here at a minimum of "reverting crap cropping up in the watchlist", alas. --illythr (talk) 19:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Веселых праздников!

Желаю вам всего самого наилучшего в новом году! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Дякую, вам того ж! --illythr (talk) 19:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Hey there!

Thank you for emailing our institute about our pics being taken down! I must admit, after my initial foray into Misplaced Pages contributions, I have since been busy on other projects and not had time to keep an eye on the pages I had created.

Good looking out! I am glad that you saw the images had been taken down and took the initiative to email us to make us aware of this :)

You are correct in that the permissions were taken down in error - I think someone was doing regular maintenance and simply removed it. After speaking with our Institute's president, we have the copyright and permissions for these pictures and many others... I was just unexperienced as to how to correlate this to Misplaced Pages's requirements.

I am in the process of expanding the work I had previously done and restoring the pics / adding new relevant ones to replace them. I wanted to see if you thought that it was more efficient to upload pictures directly and try to explain why we have the rights to it, or to send an email with the picture to Misplaced Pages's 'permissions' board and ask them if it's OK to use it... I had done the former previously, and was wondering if this second method would make my pics less likely to be in 'dispute.'

Thanks again,

Barrett

Misplaced Pages users sometimes patrol uploaded images, looks like someone noticed the absence of the public domain notice (it was easy to miss in the first place) and took action. The two courses of action here, as described here, are:

1. Re-add the public domain notice referring the relevant images where it can remain permanently, perhaps on a separate web page or as a subsection of the legal notice. This way you can promptly re-upload the same images, perhaps even directly to Commons, so that they can be added to other Misplaced Pages projects as well. This is the easier method, however, if the notice becomes unavailable at some point, the images may be deleted again.
2. Use the letter of consent template available here to email the permission directly to Wikimedia. This takes a bit longer (the OTRS volunteers can take time to react), but results in a more permanent solution - the file pages will get an OTRS mark like this and won't be threatened with deletion anymore.

I'd say, go for the email option if you have the time. List all the images, pick the license and send the mail it from the monkinstitute.org domain address. --illythr (talk) 01:18, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Do you think Tides of Numenera will be as good as Planescape:Torment?

I love the original game - am currently going through another playthrough right now: sticking to Lawful Good (but man, can you be a real jerk as an evil TNO) and trying to max all my skills to 25 while looking for Greater Glabrezu drops in Undersigil :)

Do you think the new game will be as much of a cult classic as the original? I can only hope it will give me half as much enjoyment as the original did! I didn't play PS:T until last year, and at almost 15 years old, I find it much more raw and interesting than games produced nowadays.

PS - who is your favorite NPC? For me; party npc = tie between Morte/Vhailor, non-party npc = Death-of-Desire, Nemelle - those girls are straight out of the Twilight Zone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barrett Kinsella (talk • contribs) 17:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Huh. Having played the game through about ten times, I don't think I ever saw a Greater Glabrezu down there (I know it's a valid tactic, I just never had the patience for grinding)... And anyway, I vaguely recall that there are no stat checks beyond 22 or 23 in the game and most stop at 18-19.

On NPCs, it's really hard to pick any specific ones in a game acclaimed for NPC depth. I guess I'd pick Morte for him being the snark motherlode and a disembodied floating skull, and Fall-From-Grace for her being an interesting inversion of the worn and torn "fallen angel" trope (and yeah, Jennifer Hale).

As for T:ToN, the game still in pre-production, so we can only speculate at this point. The potential is certainly there: Much of the old P:T crew is on board, seems highly engaged and has been producing really detailed updates; the Numenera setting is fitting for the general theme of the game, and the musical score is great so far. The main problem will most likely be over-stretching the budget to meet all those stretch goals (this is where Wasteland 2 sales will hopefully help out). The turn-based combat decision was also a let down for me, but I remain cautiously optimistic. --illythr (talk) 01:18, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Azerbaijan Parade of Nations

According to all official sources Patrick Brachner carried the flag for Azerbaijan at the Sochi Opening Ceremony. However that is not the case. By looking at the person carrying the flag I managed to match the person to Iskender Khalilov. Khalilov happens to be the president of the Winter Sports Federation of Azerbaijan. The only problem is there is no source besides a facial match I happened to find. Here is an image of him and him at the opening ceremony . I think we have a match. How do we source this though? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed the discrepancy in the looks too, which is why I reapplied your edit in spite of the official source saying it's Brachner. This is one of the cases where "Verifiability, not truth" principle misfires. Let's hope they fix the guy's ID soon, otherwise I'm sure well-meaning editors will eventually put Brachner back in there. --illythr (talk) 19:39, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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