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ITN

On you posting this on ITN, please see my concerns here. Thanks, Mikker 01:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I have responded. -- tariqabjotu 02:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Blanking

I have only blanked that which I contributed as Administrator Zoe, Laughing and Frelang do not appreciate my original research, I am retracting all my contributions. You will see this at the WP AB Dudedontworry 05:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Your WP:AN/I Comment

Hi, regarding to your comment at the WP:AN/I as "From what I have personally seen from these two users (particularly on Babur prior to its protection), they have been quite incivil and disruptive. I support the idea", i have a feeling that you might have missed or forget the case. Could please review the Babur article's talk page and clarify who is distruptive and who is incivil explicitly? I'm the one who is continuosly attacked by that user, and that user was blocked for this reason . Unfortunately, I edit/revert warred with that user (i reverted to Sikandarji's version) , but never be impolite to anyone. The case is also similar in the Ephthalites article (i reverted to Sikandarji's compromise version) . Edit/revert warring is a quite different issue than incivility and disruption, i think. I shall greatly appreciate if you'd be kind enough to explain your comment at the WP:AN/I. Regards. E104421 09:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Poll: "Ryūkyū" instead of "Ryukyu"

Hello Tariqabjotu, I'd like to once again request your expertise in move discussions to give me a second opinion on this issue. In this controversial poll proposed by user Endroit, the result seems to have been "no consensus" (at least I would have closed it as "no consensus" if I hadn't participated in it). Nonetheless, user Endroit himself decided to close the poll as "oppose", which is actually the position he defended throughout the poll. Was this a proper procedure? It looked very unorthodox to me and I contacted him asking for the poll to be reopened until an outside admin close it. Could you please give me your frank opinion about this situation? Sorry for the trouble. Thank you. Best regards,--Húsönd 15:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

There is no set manner to close a move poll. Normally, when the poll results in over 60% supporting, I say support. For 40-60%, I say no consensus and for less than 40%, I say no move. However, the latter two don't really have much of a difference. Regardless, it probably would not have been a good idea for Endroit to close the poll in his favor, but he did make the correct decision. Someone else asked me about the poll conclusion, and I will take care of that. -- tariqabjotu 16:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your intervention. Endroit took this issue to WP:AN, which is good to get more independent feedback. By the way, we have different established bordelines for consensus. I usually recognize consensus only when one position nears the double of the other. Regards.--Húsönd 17:15, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey there

I just sent you an email. Thanks :-) JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 02:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

User 168.215.59.254

You recently blocked 168.215.59.254 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) for 30 hours for vandalism. Since the expiration of that block, that user has continued to vandalize. Could you please block this user for a lengthy duration? Thanks, NatusRoma | Talk 16:53, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Done; I blocked him for 300,000 seconds. -- tariqabjotu 16:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. NatusRoma | Talk 17:09, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Permission

hello from Calgary, Canada - and thank you - to all the users for the copyright comments on my digital photo and scan images

I have modified the copyright note - and realize anything could happen to the images in the world of neutral-evil aligned Misplaced Pages users - who are obssessed with factual articles and publishing quality graphics - and at the same time don't know the difference between art, anarchy, and Freeedom!. Copyright tagging and image work still in progress.--John Zdralek 22:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

example images with licensing formatting

Foothills Hospital image

backdrop test image

old speed skates made in Canada image

antique skate blade image

Time Person of the Year

I am telling you, "You" are Time Person of the Year! Stop deleting it, I had a source! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pelhamgop (talk • contribs).

Re: Blocking Husnock

First, your block of Husnock (talk · contribs) was excessive. Second, see this WP:ANI discussion. -- tariqabjotu 05:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I was a little slow in drafting my post, it's in the section below the one you link to: Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Block_of_Husnock. --bainer (talk) 05:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes; I noticed and merged the sections. In my opinion, Husnock's behavior is becoming increasingly disruptive and his self-unblock was wrong, but a month-long block is a bit excessive and futile given he's stepping out of Misplaced Pages. If this were a normal user, I would have suggested the protection of his userpage, but I'm almost certain Husnock would defy that. So, I'll have to think about this one... -- tariqabjotu 05:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, ok, I just grouped the sections together as subsections to preserve the links to them, and make it a little clearer where the various posts begin and end. You're welcome to comment on the block if you think it was excessive, I'm standing in a certain position and I may not have the same view as everyone else, that's the whole idea of reviewing significant blocks there :) --bainer (talk) 05:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this a significant workaround the section / link dilemma? -- tariqabjotu 05:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good trick. The other reason though that I thought they would be better separate is just to make it clear where my post begins, but if you like it better as a single section that's ok. --bainer (talk) 05:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Mount Hood proseline

I'm curious about this edit you made to Mount Hood. You made another edit which I understand and agree with, as that part of the article frequently needs cleanup. However the first section (Incident history) should tend to be stable. Do you think it should be refactored as a separate list article? Or, at the other extreme, be combined into a paragraph detailing the accidents? — EncMstr 08:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I made these changes. In my opinion, that's sufficient. -- tariqabjotu 12:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the clarification. That improves the section nicely. — EncMstr 08:16, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Deleted Image

I see that that is not the first time that image was uploaded. Perhaps that file name should be protected against recreation. pschemp | talk 01:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this type of salting sufficient? -- tariqabjotu 02:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Perfect. pschemp | talk 02:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: mprotected2

Ah, thanks, I was looking for what template to use there, but came up empty-handed. I guess you've tagged all of them by now, or do you need me to do it? Thanks again. —Pilotguy (ptt) 01:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I got them all. -- tariqabjotu 02:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

ANI

As a result of reverting systemic blanking of certain comments by a banned user, I've had to remove a few edits you made (due to edit conflicts) on ANI. I apologise, and ask if you could kindly reinstate them. Thanks and sorry. – Chacor 02:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll only re-instate my comment if Sandy re-instates her link to that site with images similar to the one that appeared on Today's Featured Article. Frankly, I'd prefer if she did not do that. -- tariqabjotu 02:40, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

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Beit Hanoun November 2006 incident protection

Since no edits have been made to the discussions for at least two days, would you be in favour of lowering the protection on the article, either to unprotected, or semi-protected and just block edit-warring parties in future? I ask only because I'm not in favour of having pages fully protected for any significant amount of time - it's more harmful in the long run in my opinion - the edit warring is unfortunate, but full protection is completely restrictive and doesn't seem to have helped the situation move forward. As the protecting admin I thought I'd come to you before I went to Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection. Thanks. QmunkE 15:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps after a couple more days I'll unprotected. The last time the article was unprotected, editors quickly began edit-warring again. -- tariqabjotu 13:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

That's cool

Thanks for the reply, I use the fair use license tags properly. LILVOKA 16:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

FP programming language, FL programming language

You closed a discussion months ago as move, but never actually made the move. I moved one other that you missed too. -Patstuart 01:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

There are probably quite a few moves that have yet to be performed. I closed the move, moved a couple, and then intentionally stopped since there are a heck of a lot of pages to move. If editors interested in particular articles related to programming languages want to fulfill the move request, they are free to do so. -- tariqabjotu 02:42, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Courtesy note about ArbCom proceeding

Hiya, just wanted to drop you a courtesy note to let you know about a current ArbCom proceeding where your name is briefly mentioned: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Naming Conventions. No action is needed on your part, though if you would like to participate in the case by offering a statement, evidence, or comments on the workshop page, you are more than welcome. FYI, Elonka 05:31, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Template Vandalism

That explains why they were all mprotected2ed except that one. Anyway, template:pokemon has now been removed from the article entirely. --Rory096 03:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Permission

Can I keep your name at my user page here ? --- ALM 14:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd prefer if you didn't. -- tariqabjotu 14:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

May I ask why? You do not have to reply if you do not want to. But replying will clear my confusion. Btw I really wished and waited anxiously for your reply during your nomination for admin too, but you never replied there. --- ALM 15:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:In_the_news_section_on_the_Main_Page/Candidates

Perhaps you could ad the Glenn McGrath suggestion? Dec 22. --Hamedog_Talk| 16:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

It appears the coverage of this story is of limited geographic scope, limited primarily to Australia and the United Kingdom. -- tariqabjotu 16:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Big news any where in the cricketing world. McGrath and Warne to of the greatest cricketers of all time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hamedog (talk • contribs) 21:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

Your current events redesign

I noticed this page was proposed for speedy deletion because it should have been made in your user sandbox. Accordingly I have moved it to: User:Tariqabjotu/Current events/Redesign --Dgies 00:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The resolution article bolding

Regarding this, I suggest bolding both articles instead. Aran|heru|nar 04:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Main page

What happened how was this possible? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

No one protected a template on the Main Page, and then someone else exploited that vulnerability. -- tariqabjotu 15:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

What a horrible image!! Noty exactly what you want to see at Christmas or any time! I thought the main page was immune from such edits Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC) THanks for releieving my eyes anyway. Man that must have seriuosly hurt! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Main Page

Did you see the vandalism picture on the Main Page too? Apparently, upon clicking the history, it is no longer there but I definetly seen it!

Anthonycfc (talk • email • tools) 16:07, Sunday December 24 2006 (UTC)

The vandalism occurred to a template transcluded onto the Main Page, and not onto the Main Page itself. -- tariqabjotu 16:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: "Get Your Act Together"

Tariqabjotu wrote:

At who was that directed? Zzyzx11 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) for accidentally skipping over this template? Everyone except you? -- tariqabjotu 17:07, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Everybody – myself included. I certainly don't intend to direct it at any one person. Even a non-administrator can leave a request for page protection or a message on the administrators' noticeboard if they spot a page that needs it. It's my fault as much as it's anyone else's fault. However, it's not an area I have any involvement with, and I don't expect to have to do everything myself. The Main Page gets millions of hits a day, and it simply should not be possible for someone to shove a penis in the public face of Misplaced Pages – Gurch 18:36, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I noticed my name got into this conversation. I will admit that I missed protecting those templates that the penis vandal got, both the December 15 SA and the December 24 POTD. But Gurch has a valid point that it is essentially the whole community's fault. Because it got to a point where only one user, me, was monitoring the main page protections. That in my opinion is unacceptable for an important page like the main page. Not only was there not another Wikipedian to double check myself, but what could have happened if I got too busy or went on a wikibreak -- and all of the templates and images for a particular day was not protected? So hopefully, more eyes and a new bot will prevent it from ever happening again. Regards, Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:47, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Emergency revert

What was that about?--Azer Red Si? 22:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you're aware of the extreme vandalism that occurred around 15:30 (UTC), but it's discussed on Talk:Main Page, WP:AN, and WP:ANI. The vandalism was especially hard to detect, so I looked through the history of the Main Page to see if there was a version that would not have the vandalized template. Reverting the Main Page to the previous version did not actually do anything, but it appeared to fix the issue because when I had checked the previous version, the image had been removed (unbeknownst to me) from the vandalized template. So, I reverted. However, by the time I went to check the Main Page again, the image was re-added to the previously vandalized template. Thus, it was back, leaving me confused as to how that happened. I checked WP:ANI and saw that someone had pointed out Misplaced Pages:POTD row/December 24, 2006 as the vandalized template. I protected the page and blocked the vandal. Someone got around to reverting my reversion on the Main Page before I could. I checked the history of Misplaced Pages:POTD row/December 24, 2006 and saw that the vandalism was being eliminated while I was performing my Main Page revert. -- tariqabjotu 22:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

"fascist"

Hi Nadirali (talk · contribs) decided to call me (and other Hindu and Indian users) fascist. It may be of note that the last user to engage in defining me with that term TerryJ-Ho (talk · contribs) got banned for one year. Needless to say I value democracy.Bakaman 03:14, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

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Another JP sock

Iskra1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) seems to be a new and fairly obvious JP sock (unwillingness to sign talk page comments is a dead giveaway). - Merzbow 22:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I have filed a request for checkuser (see Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser#Jacob_Peters). I would like to note that not signing talk pages is not really a dead giveaway; many new users don't do that. -- tariqabjotu 23:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Indefblock of User:Louiselouise

I saw you just blocked this user (presumably for blanking {{PRODWarning}}). In my experience, blanking a warning template is usually a symptom of being a new user and not understanding MediaWiki very well. Since this user's only other contrib was creating an article which was speedied, an indef block without warning seems a bit harsh. What ever happened to assume good faith and don't bite the newcomers? Am I missing something here? --Dgies 01:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I've unblocked her and left a message on her talk page. -- tariqabjotu 04:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Mediation

The mediation has started, please join at Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-08 Beit Hanoun November 2006 incident --Striver - talk 10:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Hajj

Hello, Tariq. Please be encouraged to add the first day of Hajj to MainPage, if it's not too late. I can't confirm the date from info in the article, so I ain't sure when the 5 days of Hajj is supposed to begin. Is it today ? Thanks in advance. --PFHLai 14:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I was out today. However, to answer your question, Saudi Arabia (as far as I know) sighted the new moon on December 20 (extraordinarily hard to believe, but... uh... sure), so that means the first day of the Islamic month of Dhu al-Hijjah began on December 21. The first day of hajj is the ninth day of Dhu al-Hijjah, so that would mean hajj began on December 29. -- tariqabjotu 00:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

So it was yesterday. Ooops... I've just added this to the SA template for Dec.29th anyway, as a reminder for whoever updating the templates in 2007. Oh, well.... Thanks for letting me know. Hope you had fun in the snow. :-) Cheers. -- PFHLai 00:23, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

It will probably be closer to December 19 in 2007, so that won't be much of a reminder. -- tariqabjotu 00:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

At least it's on the same page. Hope this helps. --PFHLai 00:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Saddam Hussein

Could you please tell me why the sprotected template is not necessary on the above page and only the sprotected 2 template? Suely its better to let new or unregistered users know that they can't edit RyanPostlethwaite 01:24, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

From Template:Sprotected2:

This template should be used for pages that are semi-protected for longer periods (for brief semi-protection please use {{sprotected}}) or where the other semi-protection template may be untidy.

Saddam Hussein has been, and most likely will continue to be, semi-protected for a long period of time. Perhaps un-protection may occur when the article becomes linked from the Main Page. -- tariqabjotu 01:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Cheers for clarifying that for me, Just thought it would be better to have both tags on, as I can see though just the sprotect2 template is requiredRyanPostlethwaite 01:32, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but how do people who are new to Misplaced Pages editing know that the page is semiprotected with sprotect2? — Rickyrab | Talk 01:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

If they click on at the top, it will tell them the page has been protected from editing. Additionally, one could also click on the padlock to get the semi-protection policy. If you have a problem with the whole concept of the {{sprotected2}} template, you would probably be more successful bringing it up at Template talk:Sprotected2 or Misplaced Pages:Village pump (miscellaneous) (although you won't be the first person to call the subtlety of the template into question). -- tariqabjotu 02:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

You're sure we want to unprotect it 30 minutes before the expected execution, while the article is already a huge vandalism target? -- Jim Douglas _(contribs) 02:19, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the fact that it is in the news is precisely why I unprotected it. There are probably a good number of anonymous users who suddenly want to add something to the article. High-traffic articles linked from the Main Page (not yet, but soon) tend to get lots of viewership and usually are not protected; that's a good time to show off the anyone-can-edit mantra of Misplaced Pages. However, if the article gets swamped with vandalism, semi-protection can always be re-applied. -- tariqabjotu 02:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate that you're sticking around to clean up the fallout. -- Jim Douglas _(contribs) 02:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Aren't we self-important, monitoring the Saddam page. You must feel very special.Wolfp10 04:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Saddam

Yes, but I wasn't referring to that. I'm referring to those people who keep making jokes about his death. Besides, it's only for the time-being. Nishkid64 02:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

My Signature

My signature was changed over an hour before you left your comment. Even if I had not changed it, it would have been basic manners to at least wait for my reply before commenting. thank you. Codu ⁄_(c) •  18:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:2006 Bangkok bombings on ITN

Yeah, I noticed in the article that it wasn't really a sure number. I went back, and saw you removed it. Whatever, I'm fine with that. Nishkid64 21:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

You possess good sense of humour.

You possess good sense of humour but you can make others' year, happy or that too one should not suggest you? swadhyayee 03:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Robert Ehrlich

Thanks for the catch on Robert Ehrlich; the reason I added that fact was because the link to Robert Ehrlich in the Pirate's Booty article, which someone else had already written, pointed to the Governor's article. Andrew Levine 17:20, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Adam Air Flight 574

Hi, its me. Regarding the above article, although it is now in a presentable state, Pharos has raised a concern that it may be a good idea to leave it off ITN until the aircraft is discovered. Whilst I am inclined to agree, I'm unsure; as I mentioned on the page at ITN/C, it's not unknown for an aircraft to disapear and never be rediscovered. I would apreciate it if you could add your opinion. Many thanks, Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 23:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox Officeholder

Gerald Ford is no longer linked to the main page, so would it be possible for you to unprotect Template:Infobox Officeholder as there are edits that are waiting to be made. Thank you. Philip Stevens 11:23, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I changed the template from {{mprotected2}} to {{hprotected}}, since the template is used in nearly two thousand places. You can always request that a change be made to the template by adding {{editprotected}}, with the requested edit, to the talk page. -- tariqabjotu 12:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Silver Chips

just fyi

The Sword and Age of Winters

Thanks for protrecting The Swords article, can you please do the same for Age of Winters as the same two people (or one person as I suspect a sock puppet) are vandalising that article too. Same as before, removing information arbitrarily with no attempt to explain why and response to requests for dialogue. The Kinslayer 16:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

08october user

Hi Tariqabjotu. In doing a little research, I noticed something you might take an interest in. The user, user:08october, that you blocked for 3RR this morning, appears to be using a sockpuppet to avoid your block, and is back making the exact same reverts again as the user User:04december. I was going to report to WP:AIV, but I noticed you had made some edits recently, and if you are here, probably easier to report it to you. Caper13 05:20, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Jacob Peters

It appears that JP is back in full swing. If you'll check the history of Vladimir Lenin for January 6/7, you'll see several IP addresses and a new user account with his fingerprints on them. He's made himself quite a pest, and I'm hoping you might help sort this out. Rklawton 19:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)