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== Inappropriate talk ] == |
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Can you please review this and possibly remove it? ] appears to be confusing ] with ]. This discussion has woefully gone from a discussion on the nature of my question to an attack on me. You know me and you know my history and you know that I'm the last one to cry, "Rogue admin!" but Mimsy's behavior of late has become bizarre. I've even been blocked by this administrator in order to prevent me from participating in discussion at ]. Thanks! —] (] <small>•</small> ]) 13:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Protected Edit page == |
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Hi! See and if you can, link it into the main page. T'would be a good idea to disimbedd the three 'In-Your-Face' tags to a seperate sub-group, and then fix up the order in this to match. Also, is there a tag which asserts something smells of pov, along the lines of {{tlx|Fact}}? I'm rushed and can't find right now. Thanks // <B>]</B><font color="green">]</font> 19:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Sandy Dancer== |
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This User is clearly a sock puppet for someone. Is there no way it can be checked? He is changing articles on right-of-centre Tory groups in Great Britain so that fundamental details relevant to them have been removed altogether. The articles naturally become demonised. The only other Users I can see who relentlessly did this before were Guy Chapman, Ed Chilvers, and Homeontherange. ] 21:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC) |
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* Yeah, right. Anyone whose political opinions lie to the left of Atilla the Hun is clearly a sockpuppet of Stalin as far as you're concerned :o) <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 19:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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**SV, I just noticed this here - someone inquired on my talk page once if I was the same person (apparently we both speak Spanish). Yikes - no, I'm not a dancer, don't agree with her assessment of the best countries for beer, and have spent one week in the UK. Yikes - too much similarity having another Spanish-speaking Sandy on board. ] (]) |
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***Having checked around more now, if there's ever a checkuser, I hope someone will make sure I'm notified and included, so I can be absolved - because there is mention of socks, it's troubling me that someone asked once if we are the same person. ] (]) 15:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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****Hey Sandy - chill! There's no need for a checkuser and no-one looking at out edit histories would ever think you and I were the same person. To my knowledge, this is talk page is the first time we've ever edited in the same place! |
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****As Guy says, the user who is complaining about this is someone with a political agenda proudly displayed on their user page, with no interest in maintaining civility or NPOV. Ignore him, like I am. Let the "Real Conservative policeman" tend to his lonely beat. Happy editing! --] 01:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Image:Karenga4.jpg listed for deletion == |
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An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, ], has been listed at ]. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — ] 01:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)<!-- Template:Idw --> |
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== ] == |
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Appreciate some help at the above page, I think I've got a POV or OR pusher, who is attempting to slowly insinuate the school endorsed a drug culture based on their schooling their. It's quite a complicated debate, you may need to read the whole talk page to get the gist of it all. Anyway, your thoughts would be most welcome, I've had an RFC up for a couple of weeks and gained no responses. ] <small>]</small> 12:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Your congrats== |
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Hi SlimVirgin :-) Thanks for your congrats and your support. I found out I got the seat by seeing your congrats on my talk page! Wishing you a Very Happy New Year! --] 13:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:lol ;-) ] 13:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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Trying to improve the above. |
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:Encountering arbitrary & capricious Reversions. |
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:Your expertise (against "troublemakers?") would be useful & certainly appreciated by me. |
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:] --] 14:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Marsden/Lotuslander == |
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Check the earliest edits to the article in the deleted edit history, looking for a specific red-linked user. I'm not convinced in the present case, and the user's other edits are too old for checkuser, so the only thing that could verified is a "likely" finding based on the geographic location of the IP address. Dave702 and Lotuslander and Howlder are certainly knowledgable about wiki procedures and the Marsden case, and I doubt they are either of the two admins in good standing who previously edited the article. ] 15:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Your explanation == |
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. ] 03:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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I agree with Jkelly. Thank you for writing that; it's well-stated and considerate, and is especially nice to see given that I know that you have disagreed with parts of it in the past. ] ] 04:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:Thank you both. Well, I was a late convert, and you know what they say about the zeal of the convert. ;-) Seriously, I've been slowly persuaded by all your arguments, yours and Greg's, and also by feeling guilty every time I went to the Commons and saw how much easier it was each time to find appropriate photographs. If everyone relied on fair use, that resource wouldn't exist, and that helped me to step back and see the bigger picture. I'm sorry it took me so long. ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 04:44, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Muhammad al-Durrah == |
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Could you please look in at ]? Thanks. - ] | ] 04:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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: Slim, did you read the linked article? I don't uniformly object to ''World Net Daily'' being linked (though I happen to think it is often gutter journalism), but in this case, the linked article is dreck. It is an exaggerated rehash of someone else's opinion column. There are plenty of better pieces from essentially the same point of view already linked. - ] | ] 06:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Sandy Dancer et al== |
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I thank you for your message. I will see what I can do for you but I am pressed for time. It is not just the Left who play a prominent part in British politics but also the Right. Therefore some degree of balance is required. Sandy Dancer has significantly demonised the ] article, removing information on the organisation which appears to me, at least, to be part of its story. Guy Chapman completely deleted the article on ] without proper procedure, and redirected enquirers to the ] which he subsequently put up for deletion. That failed so it was then "re-edited". Now the well-known ] has been flagged for deletion by Ed Chilvers, who has been on some sort of crusade against all those involved in these right-wing Tory groups since arriving on Misplaced Pages. In addition some of his more revealing remarks on the deletion log appear to have been removed by...Sandy Dancer, who, as it looks like the proposal for deletion may fail, has announced that he will now "re-edit" the article. It seems to me that if these few Wikipedians don't like traditional Tories (those who Guy Chapman refers to above as "to the right of Attila the Hun" - rather giving his own position away) then you should delete all these articles rather than permit their demonisation and the unfair slurs on the thousands of members who must have passed through them all. ] 11:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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*I wish to place it on record that I completely refute all of the above allegations.--] 11:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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* Me too. All total nonsense and should be treated as such. People should be allowed to participate in the Misplaced Pages project without harassment - SlimVirgin, please don't help him do so to me or anyone else. This "Real Conservative policeman" seems to want a police state on here! |
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* I removed a long post by EdChilvers (containing quotes from a third person) because I thought they shouldn't have been posted, particularly not in a AfD debate. If that is enough for this person to instigate a witch hunt against me, then you are letting CheckUser be used for blatant fishing. Don't give him the satisfaction. --] 01:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:: It is interesting that Ed Chilvers has also called for the deletion of ], but even more interesting that Sandy Dancer makes the following comment on the deletion log: "This looks like a re-run of Gregory Lauder-Frost". From what I can see Sandy Dancer did not exist during that argument. ] 12:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC) |
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::: Yawn ... but I have read the discussion, after you accused me of being EdChilvers' sock, didn't I? As I have previously explained. You are really clutching at straws now. Pathetic, tiring, and dull. Stop harassing me. As you will see from my edit history, I make legitimate edits to Misplaced Pages. You do not - you are just here to push a partisan line. --] 12:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC) |
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I have made legitimate complaints to a responsible administrator. I hope they will be investigated. ] 11:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:If you think any admin is going to do a checkuser for no reason and simply to allow you to go fishing, you are deluding yourself. This is frankly ludicrous - you were asked to provide diffs backing up your accusations and you aren't able to, because the whole thing is groundless. You yourself have been accused of being a sock puppet - and look how you responded, and . Why was that "childish", and this "legitimate"? Just another example of your double standards. I am tired of being harassed by you. --] 15:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== User KazakhPol == |
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Hi SV, Thanks for your edits etc on the page about the Tahrir party, related to the unfounded claim that they are terrorists. I suspect you hold similar views to my own about the user KazakhPol; he lacks civility, launches regular personal attacks, is very biased, and uses very poor english. I thought I might warn you that he seems to be moving in on a number of pages related to Islam, I have noticed that he has started deleting whole sentences on the page ]. ] (]) 12:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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He also making regular accusations of terrorism against HT in the following articles: |
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And ''contributed'' to a ludicrous article about a respectable british lawyer named: ''']''', and provides references in these articles that don't say what he claims, or are not credible references, or sleectively quotes misrepresenting the reference.] 16:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:Actually, I did not start the page on Javaid, and the references support the content on those three pages. ] 16:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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I'm really annoyed. |
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After I and many others worked hard to make this article truly excellent and indeed an exemplar list on wikipedia, the same people that tried to get the previous list deleted come along a pull a scam like this. |
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I don't know if the deletion was marked at the top of the page, but I check the article from time to time and didn't notice it. They picked the holiday season when no one was looking, lost the vote, deleted anyhow using the same argument that was explicitly rejected by the community now and before. They gave no notice to the people who were watching the article. Deteting admin Doc Glasgow had previously been heavily involved in the article and should have recused himself anyway. Hundreds of hours of people's time have been deleted on the whim of a admin with in axe to grind. |
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Carefully worked out criteria, methods of discussion, 120 references, dozens of articles linking in, a fantastic resource. |
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Again to refute the silly argument made by some that dictator is an "inherently POV" descriptor, simply search wikipedia for the word dictator and notice how many people are described that way. Britannica, Encarta etc all do so, as do all news outlets. |
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What can I do? |
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] 14:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:Whatever you do, count me in, and let me know, pls. ] (]) 15:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:: hmmm, why did I know 172 would be there. Deleted in spite of a Keep consensus. ]. ] (]) 15:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Hi Slim == |
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Can you help me ? |
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people are using ] and "www.Palestinieremebered.org" instead of ] here: |
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Thanks, |
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] 15:10, 30 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Slim: There is a problem with the ] policy which may allow users to enter via the caption OR info that has never been published (because it is not true) . The policy must be changed so that caption info (and connection of the caption to the photo) will have a primary source verification. (other than wiki editor) see above link. Zero argue that the photo is true because he trust the wiki editor who loaded it. ] 07:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== What's up with Ancient Historical Persecution By Jews? == |
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Appears that Sjakkalle wants to delete this article -- please don't let that happen. |
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One thought on the article. Ancient Historical Persecution By Jews is quite an awkward title. It certainly isn't intuitive as a search term. Any thoughts on what would make a better name? ] 01:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Happy New Year == |
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] May the new year bring you peace, happiness, love, and hope for all things you wish for. ] <small>]</small> 16:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== TfD nomination of Template:{{ucfirst:Messianic Judaism }} == |
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] has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ]. Thank you.<!-- Tfdnotice --> ] 19:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Apologies== |
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I am sorry that I have not yet had the time to catologue my complaints. With three children my time is limited. In the meantime you might care to assess the comments made on my Talk page and also the comments on the Talk page for the ] as well as the remarks on the AfDs for the ] (now failed) and Michael Keith Smith]] (current). It is important to check the histories also as some remarks are removed after they havd been posted. ] 11:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:If you ''genuinely'' believe I am a sockpuppet of EdChilvers - see here ]. Initiate a discussion about it. If you don't genuinely believe I am a sock puppet, and you are only doing this harass me, stop doing it. In other words - put up or shut up. |
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:Likewise if you ''genuinely'' believe some of my edits have been unhelpful - either discuss on the talk page of the article in question or just go ahead and make edits. If you don't have any legitimate reason to disagree with any of my edits, and are only posting messages about me here and elsewhere on Misplaced Pages in order to be abusive, stop doing it. --] 17:11, 1 January 2007 (UTC) |
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happy new hear!!! ] 00:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Adolf Hitler's contacts with Jewish people == |
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Hi SlimVirgin: Have you ever had a close look at this strange article: ]? It's full of red links for the supposed Jews he had contact with (do they deserve articles just because they were Hitler's alleged dentist/shoe-shine-boy/chimney-sweep/whatnots etc?) It's weirdly ]. The heading stinks. Do all the Jews killed in ] get to be in it? How about all the theories about Hitler having a Jewish ancestor, does that also count as him having "contact" with Jewish people? I doubt that the originators of this article and those who worked on it have rational objectives. It should be merged with something else involving ] or even deleted for its stupidity. (If not, how about ], ], ], ], ] this can go on forever, and then we can even create ]. ] 02:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Renaming Zionism and racism == |
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Hi SlimVirgin: Shouldn't the ] article be renamed to ] as with ]? What are your thoughts? ] 02:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC) |
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==Happy New Year== |
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Happy New Year, Slim. All the best for a great 2007! ] 04:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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of possible interest to you, see also ]. Cheers, ]<font color="#008000">]</font>]] 01:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Question == |
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Why did you this comment? Thanks, ]-] 21:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:I personally would have given the benefit of the doubt and simply responded like , but I respect your judgement. Thank you for the prompt reply, ]-] 21:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Image:AlexLinder.jpg == |
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Thanks for uploading ''']'''. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under ], but its use in Misplaced Pages articles fails our ] in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please: |
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# Go to ] and edit it to add <code><nowiki>{{Replaceable fair use disputed}}</nowiki></code>, '''without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template'''. |
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# On ], write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all. |
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Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject, ], or by taking a picture of it yourself. |
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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on <span class="plainlinks"></span>. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on ]. If you have any questions please ask them at the ]. Thank you. ]≈<small>]</small> 02:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Image:AlexPacheco(PETA).jpg == |
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Thanks for uploading ''']'''. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under ], but its use in Misplaced Pages articles fails our ] in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please: |
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# Go to ] and edit it to add <code><nowiki>{{Replaceable fair use disputed}}</nowiki></code>, '''without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template'''. |
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# On ], write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all. |
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Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject, ], or by taking a picture of it yourself. |
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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on <span class="plainlinks"></span>. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on ]. If you have any questions please ask them at the ]. Thank you. ]≈<small>]</small> 02:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== About WP:ATT, could you maybe provide the rationale on top of the talk page? == |
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Hello, I really like the ] proposal, and since I've messed it up completely, you might want to fix it up again :) However, it would also be nice, if you would place a nice infobox on top of the talk page that explains what were the motivations and what is the intention of the proposal. --] 13:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi. You might want to take a look at the proposal at ] to discourage removing unsourced information, which comes from a recent sex slang dictdef AfD spree. ] 23:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Funny Swastika == |
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Hi SlimVirgin: Take a look at these templates: |
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*{{tl|Hindu Links}} (top left) |
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*{{tl|Hinduism small}} (bottom) |
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*{{tl|HinduFestivals}} (top right) |
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*{{tl|Hindu Deities and Texts}} (top right) |
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*{{tl|User WikiProject Hindu mythology}} (left) |
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with the ] displayed prominently. Honestly, of all of Hinduism's symbols' did this one have to get "headline" billing on these templates? Alternatives are aplenty if one were to look around on articles listed on {{tl|Hindu Deities and Texts}} where there are dozens of less offensive symbols that could be chosen for the same purpose. While the ] may be ok with some Hindus, it should not be flashed around "in all innocence" because for the rest of the world that was caught up in ] it was ''the'' symbol of literal EVIL, DEATH and DESTRUCTION emanating from the ]. It was ''']''' and for that reason it is VERY far from neutral, no matter in what context it is used. It violates ] to have it displayed in such an "in your face" fashion on these Hindu templates, giving it a dubious "place of pride" it does not deserve. Need one say more? ] 22:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC) |
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*Hi: NOTE: '''Talk about this is now centralized at ]'''. Thanks. ] 02:12, 5 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Universal Image Format == |
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is why it was protected. This group of IPs keep coming in, all {{user3|Uifan}}. — <span style="text-decoration: none;">] <sup>] ]</sup></span> 23:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC) |
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==Hello== |
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Hello SlimVirgin and a Happy New Year! --<font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">HIZKIAH</font> <small>(] • ])</small> 17:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Hey there cool breeze == |
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I kvetch about it enough that I've finally made a to the request for comment template. Wasted effort, scrap everything? - <font color="black">]</font> 06:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== recomendation == |
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Post-Zionism, Post Holocaust |
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by: Elhanan Yakira |
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Get this book: http://www.am-oved.co.il/HTMLs/product.aspx?C1010=17211&BSP=13483 by Prof Yakira. |
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It will go a long way to get academic backing to many things you already know as well as some new ones. ] 07:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Forking Religious anti-Semetism / Anti-Judaism == |
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I'm just going to fork these for now as I'm rather conviced these two terms have distinct meanings. By wikipedia's own definition, anti-Semetism "can range in expression from individual hatred to institutionalized, violent persecution." Anti-Judaism, as a theological position, has nothing to do with any of that. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 07:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:When I restore Anti-Judaism in the next few days, there will be plenty of sources attesting to the difference. I will hope you will not continue blanking the page and replacing it with a redirect, as this could be considered vandalism. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 00:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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Hi Crz, would you mind reverting this back to the pre-3RR version? It's currently protected on Chussid's version with the link to the personal website. Cheers, ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 22:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:No, I am not going to do that. You may very well be right, but I am not editing the protected page <b>]</b><small> ]</small> 23:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::You protected it. :-) It's quite normal to revert to a pre-3RR version before protecting a page, because otherwise the protection rewards the violator. But it's up to you; I don't want to interfere with your admin decisions. ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 23:13, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:::It would be tantamount to joining the editwar. Figure it out, ask some nonjews for input on whether the links are up to ], and then we can all remove it together once it's unprotected. <b>]</b><small> ]</small> 23:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::::For an unbiased look. I like to involve a gentile or two in intra-Jewish wars to try and be neutral. <b>]</b><small> ]</small> 23:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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I am suggesting there are hardly any Jews that do not hold pre-conceived opinions on the issue of Israel and Zionism, which is what this war comes down to. <b>]</b><small> ]</small> 23:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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==BigDT's RfA== |
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I agree, sort of, with your comment , but what do you want to do about the problem? It's not the candidates' fault that RfA regular voters tend to over-represent ''IRC fairies'', wanna-be admins desperate to increase their Wikispace edit count, and non-writers in general, with the result that the process becomes an exercise in groupthink. Wikispace edits are wonderful. Article writing? Anyone can do that. Most Misplaced Pages editors, the ones who actually create the content, wouldn't know where RfA was. I go through periods where I apply 1FA and the like, but it never lasts. I'd hardly ever support anyone, and what good would that do for something that is supposed to be no big deal? Looking for some good ideas, Yours grumpily, ] ] 01:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Thank you for helping with Yzak == |
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I am hesitant to get into any kind of dispute since I'm still ... a little off balance due to personal messes. :) --<font face="Verdana">]]]<small><sup>]|]</sup></small></font> 09:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== RE: Some advice == |
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Thank you for approaching me in a civil manner about it. Is there some formal process to take Barnstars away or something? I didn't think Doug Bell should be blatantly trolling ] on his userpage like that. ] 10:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:I guess I'll have to. Thanks for being helpful instead of just screaming at me. :-) ] 10:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Antisemitism == |
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Hi SlimVirgin, |
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Please have a look at this |
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Please read the "Bernard Lewis, whose Jews of Islam..." onwards. Thanks --] 13:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Help:Talk page == |
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SlimVirgin, ] has of incoming links - until these are fixed, there should be a redirect in place to ]. I'll create one shortly. Is there any reason not to have one, other than the fact that it's a cross-namespace redirect?] 22:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:I ] added ] before I came here; hope that's okay. There's also some confusion in the talk pages for these pages (which are about talk pages). redirects to ], while redirects to ]. The plurality of the project-page and the talk-page-for-the-project-page should probabbly agree. —] <small>(])</small> 22:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for fixing that so quickly! —] <small>(])</small> 22:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Protection on Anti-Zionism page == |
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Is this necessary? At what point will it be removed? I left a comment for you on the talk page. Thanks, ] 15:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== ArbCom case regarding ] block == |
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I have filed an ArbCom case regarding your role in the block on my account. You are hereby notified. -- ] 20:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC) |
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