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== A cheeseburger for you! == == Question regarding ClueBot ==


Can I please see the source? (A github url for ClueBot) ?
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Is it being run on someone's PC or is it being run in the cloud?
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I have more questions than I have answers coming to this page.
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | You're too quick! ] (]) 17:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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{{Ping|Ajshul}} I'm pretty sure ClueBot only eats electricity! ] (]) 11:16, 24 March 2021 (UTC) Thanks ] (]) 12:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
:@] the bot runs on Wikimedia Toolforge and its source code is . <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 13:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)


== About ClueBot III JustArchiveThis ==
== Vandalism after blocks ==

Hi! What is CBNG's threshold for reporting to AIV? How old does a warning have to be? Does it take account of previous blocks? It seems to me that the threshold could be lowered a little. For example, it gave a level 1 warning to ], but that IP had a level 4 warning nine days ago and has been blocked twice since then. In cases like this, a re-block is necessary and I would rather have CBNG report straight to AIV, perhaps including a ping to the previous blocking admin. ] &#124; ] 16:49, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|HJ Mitchell}} I'm sure ClueBot NG now reports after 3 warnings and I think it's 48 hours before it considers warnings stale. I'm not sure that it would take into account blocks, it may well not because if it's an IP then it could be re-assigned to another user. I agree with your suggestion though. -- ] (]) 17:29, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
::Pinging in {{u|Cobi}} for input-- ] (]) 22:32, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

== Spacing of archive sections ==

I wish to report that I use ClueBot III to archive my Talk page, but when I review the source text of the archive, I find that ClueBot is not spacing the sections properly. After a ClueBot III automatic archive, there is no space between the previous section, and the newly archived section. Thus, I am having to manually add a line break between the archived sections. Example of a ClueBot III archive ''before'' I manually add a line break...<br>
{{Tq|<nowiki>== Section heading A ==</nowiki>}}<br><br>

{{Tq|Text belonging to Section A.}}<br>
{{Tq|<nowiki>== Section heading B ==</nowiki>}}

After ClueBot III performs an archive, Section B's heading is butted against text belonging to the previous section. Before the archiving, the sections were properly spaced (I have verified this), but after archiving, they're not. They should be separated by a line break that normally follows the text.<br> —&nbsp;] (]) 11:56, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
:This does not seem to change the rendered page at all for me (I just verified it). It seems to render fine with or without the extra line break in the wikitext. What issue are you seeing? Perhaps a screenshot of ClueBot III's wikitext failing to render? -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 15:07, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
::I think there is a misunderstanding. I am ''not'' referring to the page/article as visible to a viewer, but to the formatting in the source. Obviously, certain elements do not display when viewing a page/article, such as the equal signs for assigning section heading levels, and line breaks between sections (unless there is an excess of them). No, I'm referring strictly to the source code. The source code can be copy-pasted, as I've already done so using ] to mark such an example in lieu of the photo request, ''with the understanding as previously mentioned'' that I have since manually added the missing line break.
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::{{Tq|<nowiki>== International Bureau of Weights and Measures ==</nowiki>}}<br><br>

::{{Tq|Hello, {{No ping|prefix=|DeFacto|p=.}}. As your own talk page is very populated, I'll bring this side-discussion here to my own talk page. I see that you are strongly contesting the exclusion of the initialism IBWM from the ] article. I've brought you here to share with you my own similar experience.}}<br><br>

::{{Tq|Article ], which is a misnomer for the chemical '''sulfur mustard''' because by definition, it is not a "gas". There was a ] Sulfur mustard → Mustard gas. I strongly contested the proposed move, but I was up against Misplaced Pages titling policies, and had exhausted all my arguments.}}<br><br>

::{{Tq|I lost the argument, but I gave it all I could. The relationship is that you appear to be standing on your own with the initialism IBWM, but you have argued strongly for what you believe, and I think these things go underappreciated. {{Thank you}} —&nbsp;] (]) 20:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)}}<br>
::{{Tq|<nowiki>== Your custom signature ==</nowiki>}}<br><br>

::{{Tq|Your custom signature appears to violate the first policy/guideline constraint expressed at ]. I suggest renaming your user account if you want to keep that signature. —&#8239;{{No ping|BarrelProof}} (]) 17:31, 17 March 2021 (UTC)}}
::(further text truncated; the above was edited to hopefully avoid pinging users)<br><br>
::As you can see from the above example, ClueBot III removed the line break from between my signature in the previous section, and the next section's heading, "Your custom signature". The line break appears in the current version, because . Why is ClueBot III removing the line break that separates a previous section from the next section's heading? —&nbsp;] (]) 15:16, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

* There! ClueBot a section of its own Talk page, removing the line break in the process, thus cramming the sections together in the source code exactly as I've described (see ). The entire archived page has section after section without a space between the previous section and the next heading. —&nbsp;] (]) 16:43, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
::This is valid wikitext, it does not affect the rendered page, and the archives are not meant to be further edited (as they are archives). I see no compelling reason here not to pack them as tightly as they will go on an archive page. It also helps (ever so slightly) with maximum archive size and maximum page size. -- ]<sup>(]&#124;]&#124;])</sup> 01:58, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Good job for reverting vandalism like a pro - and super fast! ] (]) 01:57, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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Why the default are set to <code>|format=Y/F</code> when <code>format= %%i</code> is better according to the ]?
== How? ==


Also can I to switch to numbered formats later? Or it's not possible because it will break the bot? - ] (]) 14:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
What keeps Cluebot NG up and running 24-7? A supercomputer in a big company building? A computer placed at the bottom story of a home? --]] (]) 00:24, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
:It's run on Wikimedia VPS infrastructure and the ClueNet servers. It's written and maintained by {{u|Crispy1989}} and {{u|Cobi}}-- ] (]) 01:53, 28 March 2021 (UTC)


:Because ] to the documentation without updating ]. But I prefer dated archives, myself, because they just make more sense to me, but it's a debated issue. From a technical perspective, it's (slightly) better for the bot and the Misplaced Pages servers to use dated archives since then the bot doesn't have to "find" the right archive by checking the sizes of archives, it just knows based on the date. This isn't a big deal, but when it comes to defaults for a popular bot where most people won't care one way or another, it's better generally that the default be the more efficient option. <span style="color:#dbb5ff;font:bold 125% 'Brush Script MT',cursive;padding-left:.75em;padding-right:.5em">— ] ]</span> 23:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
== About Saki Shimizu ==


:What? ] ] ] 00:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
See jawp article!!!--] (]) 10:39, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
:ClueBot can't read an article because it's not human. That said, I can understand why the bot reverted it, it's because signs such as "!" are commonly used by vandals. If it's not vandalism then please follow the instructions ClueBot left you on your talk page to report it. I've also taken the liberty of removing the unreferenced sentence per ]-- ] (]) 13:30, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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Question regarding ClueBot

Can I please see the source? (A github url for ClueBot) ? Is it being run on someone's PC or is it being run in the cloud? I have more questions than I have answers coming to this page.

Thanks Vidyagamerfromaus (talk) 12:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

@Vidyagamerfromaus the bot runs on Wikimedia Toolforge and its source code is here. ''']''' (talkcontribs) 13:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

About ClueBot III JustArchiveThis

Why the default are set to |format=Y/F when format= %%i is better according to the documentation?

Also can I to switch to numbered formats later? Or it's not possible because it will break the bot? - Ivan530 (Talk) 14:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Because someone added that comment to the documentation without updating User:ClueBot III/JustArchiveThis. But I prefer dated archives, myself, because they just make more sense to me, but it's a debated issue. From a technical perspective, it's (slightly) better for the bot and the Misplaced Pages servers to use dated archives since then the bot doesn't have to "find" the right archive by checking the sizes of archives, it just knows based on the date. This isn't a big deal, but when it comes to defaults for a popular bot where most people won't care one way or another, it's better generally that the default be the more efficient option. — Naomi Amethyst 23:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
What? Ned1a Wanna talk? Stalk my edits 00:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
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