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==Happy New Year==
* Wow... knew you'd gone inactive, but since summer of 2007 I find surprising... getting so I don't know any admins anymore. Sigh. Be well. Hope the book went well. // <b>]</b>] 01:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


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== Quotation marks ==

Thanks for sorting me out over those ''quotation marks''.] 12:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== Your recommendations on the ] debate ==

Hello again, looking at your response to my post (now in your archive section) I see that you make recommendations for me:
:“I suggest that you look a little more carefully at the article history.”
When I followed your advice I saw that you reverted away the edits I made deleting the information from blogs.
:I had done so citing such wiki-standards as
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Biographies_of_living_persons
::(Emphasis added) "Biographical claims about living people need special care because of the effect they could have on someone's life, and because they could have legal consequences. '''Remove unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons immediately''' and do not move it to the talk page."
I deleted the poorly sourced contentious material on 19:31, 10 January 2007 but in little over an hour they were reverted back in by you at 20:38, 10 January 2007. And then you told me on my user-talk page to "stop...deleting large swathes of text". I also noted in the history page that you were an early contributor to the article that included the blog statements at 10:33, 7 January 2007 and 10:29, 7 January 2007. A fact you don’t mention in the AfD discussion.

You wrote on my talk that I must have "some personal or political axe to grind with regard to the articles on this family". I knew that you were referring to my editing out any poorly sourced contentious material asserting an association with Irgun on the wiki-pages of his sons. So I looked at the history pages there and you had edited those as well. I saw not only did you allow poorly sourced contentious material to stand in an article (such as the sentence "was a member of the Irgun, a radical Zionist paramilitary organization" on the ] page which you edited on 10:35, 7 January 2007) but you inserted it yourself on the ] page on 19:47, 9 January 2007 writing that "], was a member of the ], a radical Zionist paramilitary organization". You neglected to put in a source for that claim, perhaps you could tell me which blog you were citing, was it the one that blames 9/11 on the Jews or the one that asserts his father was a professional assassin without any evidence?

Your other notable recommendation for me is “I suggest that you calm down, stop spluttering, and start thinking.” I’m sorry if you think I’m not being calm, would it help if I used emoticons or a different font? Perhaps you could point out where I am “emitting or making sporadic spitting or popping sounds” and becoming the very definition of spluttering (a fun word I must say, nice to see its still in usage – I’m trying to encourage the use of the word “nifty” myself). When you say “start thinking” you obviously must be saying “start thinking faster” because obviously I could not type if I couldn't think. If that is what your saying then I apologize for my slowness, it seems I can only think about a few things at a time and right now I just keep thinking about the standards for libel and wondering if you violated any of them with your unreferenced post to the Rahm Emanuel’s page, and your reverts reinserting the poorly sourced contentious material on Benjamin M. Emanuel’s article. Sorry to be so slow. <span style="color: green">Stay nifty <tt>:-)</tt> </span>
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Hello again Mel Etitis, as per the points you placed on my talk page, first I agree that it is a mistake on my part to use the word slander when it is technically libel.
:I do disagree with your claim that “The article doesn't declare that he's an assassin.” The article cited the bloggers belief that Benjamin M. Emanuel “participated in the assasination of Swedish diplomat Folke Bernadotte in 1948” and by doing added credence to those claims which would otherwise have no credence whatsoever. The blogger was neither reliable nor notable and adding skeptical caveats around his comments does not issue a blanket licensee to use such claims. His comments should never have been included in the article at all as per http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sources_of_dubious_reliability
::(emphasis added) “Sources of dubious reliability: In general, sources of dubious reliability are sources with a poor reputation for fact-checking or with no fact-checking facilities or editorial oversight. '''Sources of dubious reliability should only be used in articles about the author(s)'''.”
:In other words, by your argument I could use my birth name and publish a blog that claimed ] was a murderer and then as Wowaconia I could go to the Jimbo Wales page and write “While the author of JimboWatch.com is not noted for keeping track of his sources, he declared his certainty that Jimbo Wales was the true killer of ], others remain skeptical.” I do not believe your claims follow the wiki-standards.
I agree that my comments became emotional, because I became frustrated that you an Admin. inserted an unreferenced claim into the US Rep ] page on 19:47, 9 January 2007 that "Benjamin M. Emanuel, was a member of the Irgun, a radical Zionist paramilitary organization" and then began defending those claims on the page of his father. You also claimed that I had “some personal or political axe to grind with regard to the articles on this family” and then you declared on the AfD discussion that I have “some sort of problem with the articles on members of this family, which seem to involve protecting a politician against what he sees as negative facts. he shouldn't be allowed to get his way on this”. The only way I can extend any kind of good faith to your actions in this is to assume negligence instead of maliciousness, perhaps you didn’t read the blogs you were defending. But then I still am left wondering why you made that edit on the ] page without citing anything, not even those anti-Semitic blogs.
::I hereby in the spirit of good faith request that you instruct me on why my running perception that your post to the ] page was libel is mistaken. I hereby admit that the knowledge of this action has colored my perception of you during this debate and await the reasoning that will counter such impressions.
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Hi, I just read your response on my talk-page and I think you misunderstand my request. I am saying that my perception of you was biased because of your edit on the Rahm Emanuel page ] and with full knowledge of that edit, I made, perhaps wrongly, the conclusion that all your actions were an effort to assert the truth of that edit on the Rahm page. I had believed that this is what was driving you to defend the blogged material on his father's page which was presumably the source for your edit on the Rahm page. Please explain why you made the edit to the Rahm page and failed to use any sources when you did so. That one edit is what makes me wonder if you committed libel and then felt compelled to defended libelous blogs to support that first act of libel. If you can just explain the real reason for that one edit than I can re-adjust my perceptions. The question is on that one edit.--] 21:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Reinserting contentious material originally posted by an unsigned IP is still called an edit and an addition, and still requires a reason for doing so. If I replace deleted vandalism I would still be called a vandal. If someone replaces deleted libel they are still responsible for their edit. I would prefer to think that you did not commit libel, but I don't know what your motive for insuring this claim was included in his page was. Why did you choose to reinsert this contentious material that was without any reliable source?--] 22:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


I noticed {merge} flags on both the ] and ] pages back in August 2008. I added my full agreement to such a merger on both article's talk pages and, rather breezily, said that without any dissent from elsewhere, I would effect the merge procedure by the end of 2008. God knows why I did, because I have got cold feet. I do not think there is anything contentious, just that the procedure looks a little daunting to me. Could you oblige, or give me a fool's guide as to how to effect it. Do not lead me to the Wiki help pages for mergers - that gave the cold feet in the first place. Your obedient, cack handed and addled old fool,
:I'm sorry that my questions are badly expressed. Please explain your motivation for reposting the unsourced claim on Rahm Emanuel's site that his father "was a member of the ], a radical Zionist paramilitary organization".--] 23:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


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Okay, so I'll spare you the copy-and-paste thanks! Appreciate your kind words... ] 19:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


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:An article with content and sources that is not a copyright violation is unlikely to be deleted. In this instance, the article was identified as a copyright violation. 21:49, 2005 April 10 Mel Etitis (talk | contribs) deleted "Wojciech Bruszewski" ‎ (content was: '{{tl|d}} www.voytek.pl') ] ] 15:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
lol (now, there's an abbreviation I've never used, but it's hard to sincerely convey amusement otherwise) - I'm sorry you got dragged into arguing about boggarts. I've explained the issue (in excessive detail) to ''causesobad'' on his talk page, and have fixed the subject on the article in question (since its placement there was poor anyway). So hopefully, there won't be any issue about that anymore. Thanks for your input! ] 21:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


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:She was born in Greece, her mother-tongue is Greek, she is of Greek ancestry, she votes in Greece (she has the greek citizenship). So, if she is not Greek what is she? Please you should change it! By the way "Greek-born" means "born in Greece by non Greeks", it doesn't match to her. ] 14:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


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well Descartes demon is irrational of course, he destroys all reason, now an idea of such an irratinal being may not itself be irrational, which is what I presume you are getting at.


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And I agree, but what is it when Descartes is not yet at the point of rationality and posits the demon? It is at a second order to rationality. Also the cogito does not deny the demon it only affirms itself so insofar as the subsequent part of Descartes argument fails he is left in an irrational state.
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I can also make the comment that any brave new idea might be irrational within the previous system.


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Strange discussion, on two pages!


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You say I use the word irrational in a strange way compared to the usual. Of course, it is the topic we discuss, but sorry, no appeal to some norm. Anyhow, I think you should read meditions again, the demon destroys all mathematics, all the truth of sense perception, etc.
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You say:
::the hypothesis of the demon is perferctly rational
Well I never disputed the rationality of an hypothesis made in general, just one made at a certain point in Descartes journey. Perfectly ratinal would be if he could get out of hyperbolic doubt and he does affirm that even if there is a demon it is he who is being fooled, he is in a state of irrationality except for the, imperfect rationality, that he exists. Now people dispute that Descartes argument works for the rest of the meditation where he gets back his rationality through God etc. Certainty is exactly where rationality is, there is little more certain than 2+2=4 for most people.]


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::You suggest the demon destroys nothing, this is false within the meditation, there, all sense, all mathematics, everthing is falsified for him and for the world, since he and the demon at that stage are all there is in the world. Outside of this world of the demon and descartes there is no ratinality, nothing that is the point of the meditiation. The only thing he can believe is the cogito and this is an imperfect ratinale since he still cannot believe in extension, the world, senses, math, etc.
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::Yes the whole mediation and not just the demon is a way of coming to this conclusion ("a tool" as you say) but that is all from a perspective outside of the meditation. Within the meditation irrationality is pervasive. Your use of the word rationality and what it is not is rather negative and imprecise it is not belief but measurable belief. --]


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:You insist on staying outside of the meditation. Again I know these are hypothesis, that all of the 'I will supposes' are hypothetical until you live the reality of what is supposed and believe it. For example, Meditation II.12 when he introduces the demon with 'I will suppose there is an evil demon...extremely potent and deceitful' it is mere hypothesis. And yes it is all within an overview of asserting an unknown something, but that is just overview it is not sure till the end, and it could have failed. However, within the hypothesis, along the way of the meditiation my points apply. There the demon exists and destroys all rationality for Descartes, he can only hold onto one last thing, an imperfect rationale, the cogito.
:To enter the meditation you have to live the reality of the meditation, and begin to believe the suppositions otherwise it doesnt work; just think about what is said here by the earnest Descartes:
::I shall at least do what is in my power, viz, , and guard with settled purpose against giving my assent to what is false, and being imposed upon by this deceiver, whatever be his power and artifice. But this undertaking is arduous, and a certain indolence insensibly leads me back to my ordinary course of life; and just as the captive, who, perchance, was enjoying in his dreams an imaginary liberty, when he begins to suspect that it is but a vision, dreads awakening, and conspires with the agreeable illusions that the deception may be prolonged; so I, of my own accord, fall back into the train of my former beliefs, and fear to arouse myself from my slumber, lest the time of laborious wakefulness that would succeed this quiet rest, in place of bringing any light of day, should prove inadequate to dispel the darkness that will arise from the difficulties that have now been raised


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The quotation above demonstrates not what you said, but the extent to which Descartes was inside the meditation, and the extend to which he had convinced himself to believe it, such that the belief was such an "arduous" task. Of course we are both writing outide of the meditation, I have made it abundantly clear that I've been talking about the inside of the meditation where the irrational appears. In this sense, and after this long discussion, this is what I meant in that comment you queried about the irrational in Descartes' demon. I did in that comment refer to the demon not the project of the meditiation and so was talking from within the meditation.


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Thanks for your comment. I am still pondering whether 'rational' or 'critical' is the best. Rational argument proceeds by valid argument from certain assumptions. These assumptions may not be questioned. A critical approach, by contrast, tends to question every assumption, even the most obvious ones. Now consider this argument which Aquinas places right at the beginning of the Summa. . Aquinas considers the objection that argument from authority is the weakest. He replies: argument from authority based on human reason is the weakest, but argument from authority based on divine revelation is the strongest. And there's no argument against that. Any argument based on the authority of divine revelation (by definition an infallible source) is the strongest possible argument we could have. Given the assumption that the Catholic religion is based on divine revelation, the argument is perfectly logical, perhaps even rational. But it is not critical. The obvious flaw is that initial assumption. How do we know it's divine revelation? I suppose the reply would be: it's written in the Bible, and the Bible is the word of God. ] 08:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
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I left Bristol in 1987. Now in London, doing something quite different. Actually, that remark immediately tells me you aren't the person I thought you actually were (the person in question is exactly your age, and my age, lectures philosophy at Oxford, and is also interested in African philosophy. But that person knows I live in London. Unless you are laying a false trail, of course! ] 11:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


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I made some changes to the article. Even though it was largely verifiable, I went ahead and deleted all of that stuff about Lol's alcoholism and his lack of contributions during those last few years he was involved with The Cure because it is already mentioned in his article (see ]) and it just seemed kind of redundant to include it on this page as well. As for his involvement with The Cure those first couple of years, and that of Gary Biddles, I decided to put that in the trivia section. ] 16:45, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
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I am hoping this may be a test case for WP itself. I don't like credentials - far more of the problem is poor and sloppy writing, so give me a good copy editor any day. I had a brief spell at Citizendium but I see what you mean about LS. What is missing is that 'citizenship points' don't count. If you have been a long time here, you have shown an ability to work with other editors, despite occasional run ins, and most other old timers are like that, in my experience. Some of them are a bit mad, but you know how to deal with them. But you have to face a constant barrage from newcomers who have a complete lack of housetraining. There is no way of showing these people the door quickly. Anyway, must go, as I'm violating the policy of leaving only messages on talk pages. You are a wonderful person, don't let it get you down, as I suspect it is. Best ] 09:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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Wojciech Bruszewski

You deleted Wojciech Bruszewski - why? He was a great Polish artist, innovator and video artist with an international reputation who has recently died aged 62. See this (and translate) - http://pl.wikipedia.org/Wojciech_Bruszewski

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Your deletion

Why did you delete Wojciech Bruszewski? See http://voytek.pl/ - he was a very important international video art pioneer, and died this year, see http://www.lux.org.uk/blog/wojciech-bruszewski-polish-video-artist-1947-2009 87.112.27.96 (talk) 01:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

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Why did you delete Wojciech Bruszewski? See http://voytek.pl/ - he was a very important international video art pioneer, and died this year, see http://www.lux.org.uk/blog/wojciech-bruszewski-polish-video-artist-1947-2009 87.112.27.96 (talk) 01:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

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