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==Houston Bush== | |||
Changed the shorthand name "Houston-Intercontinental" to "Houston-Bush" in the listing of destinations, because that Houston airport's official name was changed several years ago to George Bush Intercontinental Airport" and the shorter "Houston-Bush" is the most common shorthand name used now. | |||
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Depends on your politics. Some people still call it "Washington National" and "Houston Intercontinental". ] (]) 14:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Qantas to Sydney == | |||
The continued listing of Brisbane as the Qantas destination in the destinations table is very unhelpful. Nowhere does Qantas, JFK or Brisbane Airport mention this link. The flight number of QF11/12 is to suggest it is a continuation from Sydney, which is supported by Qantas, JFK and Sydney Airport information. The page really should either list Sydney or omit the information altogether and simply have a note of the fact the flight number suggests it is a flight to Sydney but the plane usually returns to Brisbane. It is also important to note that at least once a week the plane actually does come from Sydney. ] (]) 06:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)Lala295 | |||
Per WP destinations criteria, destinations should only be included if BOTH the aircraft and flight number are the same. Even though QF operate the B74E from LAX-SYD on Tuesdays, it is different than the one operating JFK-LAX, per ]. While I agree something needs to be done about this soon, for the time being I have kept Brisbane in the table as psychologically speaking, same aircraft/different flight number is more seamless than same flight no. and different aircraft. Qantas does sometimes depart the LAX-SYD flight on time even if the JFK-LAX flight is delayed and arrives afterwards. --] (]) 14:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
Qantas flies from JFK to SYD now, instead of JFK - BNE. On the Qantas website, the flight from JFK - SYD (QF12) is displayed as one flight, with a stop, but still the same flight, while JFK - BNE (QF12, QF 16) is displayed as two flights, still with one stop. -- ] (]) 20:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I think you will find that QF12 mysteriously changes aircraft type in Los Angeles. ] (]) 01:00, 7 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
:However, if you look at the website the JFK-SYD (OF12) makes a stop in LAX with JFK-LAX using a 787-9 Dreamliner while the LAX-SYD segment of the flight uses a Airbus A380. The same Boeing 787-9 aircraft on the JFK-LAX segment is still used on the LAX-BNE segment while LAX-MEL and LAX-SYD both uses an Airbus A380. ] (]) 04:43, 10 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Timetables == | |||
I've reverted the addition of the timetables again, mainly as the references given are dynamic links, meaning they keep changing and will likely quickly go out of date with the content. If you can find static content that actually confirms the destinations (rather than ever-changing timetables), then I'll be more inclined to allow these to be added. ] (]) 13:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC) | |||
* The airline booking site references do not accurately verify direct destinations from the airport. They operate as a search engine to a bunch of destinations including those accessed indirectly and do not single out direct destinations. I see @Mealer2015 has also tried the same on other airport articles. ] (]) 20:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Removed in popular culture == | |||
== Aeroflot suspension == | |||
I just removed the pop culture section | |||
Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return | |||
{{tq|The New York City John F. Kennedy International Airport appears in the 2007 ] film '']'' and also appeared in the 2013 ] film '']''.}} | |||
] (]) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (] (]) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)) | |||
:Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK ] (]) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Hatnote way too long == | |||
::Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (] (]) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC)) | |||
We must trim this beast down! The body text and infobox don't even appear on the first screen on smaller monitors. It's ridiculous. We don't need to call out Laguardia and Newark specifically, we can point the reader to ]. And the more obscure stuff like a Bolivian airport that hasn't had the name in decades (and never really used it, to the point where it isn't even mentioned in that article's lead) does not need to be in the hatnote. ] (]) 00:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on ]. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. ] (]) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Photographs of Idlewild (from LOC in public domain) == | |||
:I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. ] (]) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
The Library of Congress has a number of public domain collections that might be useful illustrating the history of the airport. In particular, the NY World-Telegram had photos that it took at the airport that (unlike UPI photos) actually would have been donated into the public domain. The Korb Collection also has architecture photos. http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=%20Airport%20Idlewild ] (]) 22:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Major robberies section == | |||
== ''New York–JFK'' vs. ''New York–Kennedy'' == | |||
Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. ] (]) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
When looking at the "Airlines and destinations" table in all airport articles, cities with multiple airports are typically written as ''City–Airport Name'' (e.g., Paris–Charles de Gaulle, Milan–Malpensa, Chicago–O'Hare). This makes sense. What I do not see is the three-letter airport code. If Paris is Paris–Charles de Gaulle and not Paris–CDG, why isn't this airport New York–Kennedy in the airline table? Flights are also listed as "New York–Kennedy" when the three-letter code is not used (e.g., "Los Angeles, CA, to New York–Kennedy, NY"). Thoughts? --] (]) 02:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC) |
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Aeroflot suspension
Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return DisneyAviationRollerCoasterEnthusiast (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (VenFlyer98 (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))
- Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK 108.50.206.142 (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (VenFlyer98 (talk) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))
Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on WP:CRYSTALBALL. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. Coastie43 (talk) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. oknazevad (talk) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Major robberies section
Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. 173.59.118.212 (talk) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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