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Thanks!

Thank you so much for the help. I'm still in the processing of "perfecting" the article. Talentshout (talk) 07:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi fellow South African! Let me know what articles you think need some buffing up. I contributed to some SA articles a year or two back, then tried my hand at adding a few video game articles until things went a bit pear-shaped with the deletion of a few. Nowadays I just check out the help desks. I don't mind helping with some articles, just let me know :) Sandman30s 15:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW the answer to the word puzzle is Dell. Remove the capitals and extensors, and you get colours magenta, cream, cerise... with the e of cerise found in Dell. Sandman30s 13:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Anal stretching

Thanks for contacting me about this. Sadly, I'm not having much of a chance to get on Misplaced Pages at the moment (exams, mainly) so don't have much opportunity to help with this article. It's still something I feel strongly about so if the issue isn't resolved when I do next have a few hours free, I'll try to help out. If you'd like me to weigh in on a particular discussion about the article or help in anyway, you're more than welcome to e-mail me. --Oldak Quill 20:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

re:sugar based diets

No it wasn't a joke, it was one of my few comments that actually mean what they say. It is partly based on the similar diet I am on now, mostly as I like sugar, and can't be bothered to have a proper diet, and also on logic. Since people gain or lose weight mostly by changing the amount of fat in their bodies, eating food with very little fat in should help them lose weight. This gives two choices, either vegetables (which are basically water and little better than not eating at all) or carbohydrates, such as sugar or starch. Personally I prefer sugar as it tastes better. I think it is also easier to digest, and easier to respire. But when I mentioned this idea a few weeks ago I was told people on an all suger diet would have vitamin deficiencies, so it might not be a good idea to just eat sugar and nothing else, but surely better than not eating at all.

HS7 18:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the explanation for a deletion. It helped a lot. I'm new !! 15:46, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

FAR

Johannesburg has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Epbr123 19:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Gunfighter infobox

Thanks! I'll give this a try. The Parsnip! 02:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the helpme, I'll be trying out both to see which one works on my Mac at home. WLU 20:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

request for help

thanks for responding i tried to pick up an article from the translation requested page just now http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Translation/Abidjan. this showed as being at stage 1, as in no one had picked it up. however, when i accepted it and tried to go to create a page, it comes up with an existing page, which looks to be a translated version of the french article. i am not too sure what i should do/ as in, should i just change it back to stage 1 and leave it at that, or should i be informing somebody?--Mayalekhni 13:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

thanks!

thanks for yr response
and sorry i mistakenly added the comment to yr userpage instead of talk page!--Mayalekhni 13:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

hmmmm... apparently i didn't!!--Mayalekhni 13:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, yes you did. But I moved it :) And I have tried to help you on your talkpage, not sure if I did or not. Good luck Rfwoolf 13:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

pls tell me if u rather i answered on my talk page instead of here

yes, r, it was me that changed it to stage 2, by following the instruction that said what to do to begin trnaslation, it was at stage 1 when i picked it up--Mayalekhni 13:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

thanks, that does make more sense now!

You are too kind ;) Thanks for the barnstar. Let me know if you need anything else

::LOL! I just added a note to his talk page against my better judgement, then came back to my page and saw your comment about him being unregd. Anyway, I'll start the work on the article tomorrow, will let you know progress! Thanks once again! --Mayalekhni 14:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Abidjan Translation

hi wolf. I have finished the translation for the Abidjan article. i have not yet created internal links or planted images etc in it, but i thought before that i would show it you as you suggested to see if it is a better one than the current english article for abidjan. if it is, please let me know and i can go ahead and wikify it... i have currently created it as a user subpage @ User:Mayalekhni/Abidjan --Mayalekhni 12:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Let it go

Now that the deletion is winding down (and judging by the continued aggressiveness by JzG) I suggest you either file the RFC or let it go. In fact, I would think it would be best to let it go. You're not going to get any sympathy from anyone who matters here, when it comes to JzG. He's reached the level where he can do just about anything he wants (short of legal threats or BLP vandalism) without retribution. I've seen it over and over again - they say that admins are no more than ordinary users with some extra buttons, but the reality is quite different. Long term admins have a lot of clout and a lot of friends - and when one of them labels you a troll, many others will trust his assessment implicitly even if there is no evidence of such. Established admins can attack all they want, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Actually, there are 2 things you can do about it: live with it or leave. That sounds harsh, but I'm just being honest here.

So I suggest you move on and drop the JzG thing. Believe me, it's not worth the trouble, and you will likely be the one to get burned in the end (Misplaced Pages, like life, is not fair. ;-))

ATren 23:38, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and thank you for your voice in this entire matter - for what it's worth your input has been fair this entire time IMHO. I'd even say that Radiant accusing you of personal attacks and then you going and self-censoring all your comments was very interesting considering none of them were personal attacks, and at best you could have been accused of incivility, which would have been quite alarming giving the gross incivility of JzG. So you have learnt that according to Radiant, everything is a personal attack, and you have learnt from Nick that he likes to warn and threaten without justifying even if it interupts process - like you responding to comments on your talkpage. All in all it's getting curiouser and curiouser.

Add to this the number of admins that found it extremely relevant to bring in obvious non-issues as weight for their arguments: the speedy-deletion review of an evidence page is suddenly a debate about whether the Anal stretching article should exist. Curiouser... and Curiouser....

At the end of the debate you'd think that they'd overturn the speedy-deletion and allow the MfD to continue because of a lack of consensus endoring deletion. But no, in Alice in Wonderland it don't work like that. I respect the ruling in part because I have to and in part because it's not worth the effort of defending it further. But yes, suffice to say, process says there was not only doubt on speedy-deletion, but doubt on the deletion to begin with, so a result of "Endorse" seems rather biased to me. Even the user (Black falcon) who offered the compromise voted Overturn ... anyways...

Now for the part of your advice, yes, I have to let it go. Not because I feel I am incorrect on this speedy-deletion matter, in fact about 50% of the votes were for overturn, but rather because the recourse will be the same: I have made a harddrive backup of my evidence page, so if I want to take any action I still can. And golly after all these apparently biased admins I probably should.

Thanks again for all your efforts, they have not gone unappreciated.

Rfwoolf 06:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Abidjan

Hi! I have finished updating the English version of this article. COuld you please have a look at it? thanks!--Mayalekhni 02:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mayalekhni. I've looked at the Abidjan article and I can see you've done a lot of work. It's looking good! I see you have also done some work in your userspace at User:Mayalekhni/Abidjan, but I don't think you should delete Abidjan and replace it with User:Mayalekhni/Abidjan. It would be better if you try to bring the things from User:Mayalekhni/Abidjan across to Abidjan - and I think that is what you have done, but I want to make sure you understand.

Make sure you put somewhere a list in your userpace of the translations you have done so that people can recognise your hard work.

Now if you like you can submit the article for review if you want people to tell you what else the article needs. But you've done your job, very well. Translation is important between the different language wikipedia's. Keep up the good work.

Rfwoolf 06:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Woolf! Yes, i merged the information that i translated from the french version into the english version that we had. Thanks for the boost!!--Mayalekhni 07:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Academy In Joburg

Hi My name is Rebecca, and I work for an organisation called iCommons, which, in conjunction with Misplaced Pages and the Wikimedia Foundation, are hosting the first Misplaced Pages Academy in South Africa. Jimmy Wales will be at the event, and at some of the other events we have planned for that time.

We would like to invite you to take part in the first Misplaced Pages Academy that will be held in South Africa, on Saturday, 10 November from 9am to 1pm at the CIDA City Campus in Johannesburg. There will be between 20 and 30 students (plus media representatives) who will take part in the training, and we would love you to be present to assist and to share your stories about how you've used and worked on Misplaced Pages.

There will also be a breakfast session with Jimmy Wales on Sunday morning for the Afrikaans Misplaced Pages event (and any other South African wikipedians who are interested in attending) around 10am, 11 November (We would like to invite the media to this event as well.) and then a team meeting on Monday, 12 November where we will discuss planning for future Misplaced Pages Academies.

Frank Schunenburg from Misplaced Pages Germany will also be at the sessions, sharing his knowledge about how they initiated the first Misplaced Pages Academy in Germany, and assisting with skills-sharing and advice.

Please note that there will also be a cocktail party at which Jimmy Wales will speak on Tuesday afternoon 4pm to 7pm, 13 November.

If you (or any other local wikipedians you are in contact with) are interested in attending any of the events we have planned, please feel free to give me a shout, and we can chat a bit more. Rebamex 09:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Joburg Academy Follow-up

Hi Rfwoolf Sorry it took me a while to get back to you...but i just wanted to tell you that the Academy and the Wiki Meet-Up with Jimmy were all recorded, and we'll be posting the video shortly, so you'll be able to see what went down. I'll let you know as soon as. --Rebamex —Preceding comment was added at 07:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Glass

On the Reference Desk, you |commented that glass flows, referring to the old idea that medieval church windows have oozed out of shape over the centuries. This is incorrect; the reason cathedral glass is thicker at the bottom than at the top is that, when you have plate glass that's thicker at one end than the other (as was a not uncommon result of medieval glassmaking techniques), installing it thick-side-up would make it top-heavy and less likely to go for centuries without breaking (although some thick-side-up windows do still exist). There are other flaws with the notion of glass flowing like a liquid; these are also in the article. DS (talk) 15:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! (from Mizu onna sango15)

Hello, Rfwoolf, and thanks for the assistance! I was trying to reply to you on my talk page, but for some reason, your edit keeps disappearing and reverts to the last edit made (me asking my question with the {{helpme}} template), so I thought I'd just post here. ^^

Thanks again --Mizu onna sango15 (talk) 20:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

CSS coding

Hi. I noticed your discussion and the comment on teh front about hiding the main page's title. Can I ask if you've yet figured out how to hide the title on the main page using the Mediawiki:Monobook.css file and also if you know how to display text under the titles on all pages. For example on this wiki, "". This is exactly what im trying to do at which uses mediawiki software. If you haven't figured these out, we'd love for you to come and experiement if you have time. Thanks. Tbo (talk) 14:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Just a note, Ive managed the title using css but not the text under the title. Thanks. Tbo (talk) 16:42, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Ive managed that too. Looks like I don't need your help after all. But the instructons on your user page really helped though. Thanks very much. Tbo (talk) 16:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. The tech guys don't really respond to queires left on the MediaWiki site. Im not the system administrator so I don't have access to the servers. You see quite up to scratch with these kinds of things though. Im not forcing you but we could do with someone like you over at . But no worries if you don't want to. Thanks. Tbo (talk) 17:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Joyeux Noël

I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Merry Christmas! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 21:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!

Even though I've asked for a standard on food packaging, your search strategy (Botulinum) and its subsequent results are nonetheless very helpful. Thank you very much. I would still be open to any other findings on food packaging standards, but for now this helps a great deal. I am still trying SpinningSpark's suggestion but alas you have to register and they haven't activated me yet :( . CheersRfwoolf (talk) 13:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, good luck! Nil Einne (talk) 14:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Its an Honor

Hello Rfwoolf

I really feel great when I got your response, seems I hit the jackpot, I mean I was able to connect in the right process. At any rate, I wish and pray for the improvements on the article "Center Tagumpay ng Katotohanan" with your guidance.

Also I am constantly reviewing the rules of procedures on how an article is being considered by Misplaced Pages;

I had been telling to other people in and out of our country and how proud I am about Misplaced Pages' editors, (from different nations pitching their minds to maintain the prestige of the page), considered my contribution, but now I really feel sad as if I have commited a big mistake/ error.

I am taking things (the deletion of the article)as an opportunity for me to learn more in writing notable article and also a path for enlightenment and improvement of the article.

Again, thank you very much for the space you've spared.

Gradually, I' m learning and to be frank even at this portion where I was responded, I didnt know before this procedure, also using the talk page.Espiritista(talk)

(bensj 06:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC))

An extra copy of the article

Hi

I feel happy for the quick reaction, another point I would like to clear is that the article features not the center but the ACTUAL AND DIRECT WORKS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, thus mankind may know that God really fullfills His promises, as stated in the Scriptures, of which could be used for its citation and for those who seek direct and actual reliefs from God, at least they will know, through Misplaced Pages, that there's really an annointed place where to go like what happened before, where Israel was the chosen place, but at this time, its here in a specific location, so please help me how to transmit it in accordance to the rules.

Know, we are really writing a great history of tomorrow, and we shall all be part of it, a legacy that we will leave to our children.

I saved the latest copy of it at the time I sense that something is wrong and I do not know where, how and whom to explain, I really beg for its reconsideration. Espiritista (talk)

Sincerely

(bensj 08:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC))

Kord/Sandbox page

As you requested earlier today, I've created a sandbox page at User:Drokstef/Sandbox that contains the most recent version of the deleted page at Kord (band). I'm going to suggest that it will be easier to take the page through deletion review if you don't refer to it as "kangaroo court" again, because I believe if you assume good faith on the part of all concerned, people will work cooperatively with you towards the laudable goal of getting another useful article into Misplaced Pages; it's my belief that that's why we're all here. At any rate, that's a strategy that I've found to work; your strategy is your business. Again, if there's something further I can do to help you with this, let me know what that might be. Accounting4Taste:talk 18:57, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks Rfwoolf

Thanks a lot for trying to help me to resolve this problem that i have with article Kord (band). As you can see at my sandbox User:Drokstef/Sandbox, there are many notable and reliable sources for this band and beside that they had a hit on a national chart (Romanian top 100), they have at least one member who was once a part of a band that is otherwise notable Nicoleta Alexandru, they has been for many times the subject of a half hour broadcast on a national radio and TV network click-here and beside of all this, they exist, i mean this band named Kord it can be find out very simple on google because they are reliable :) Anyway, i'm glad that i've found here at least one person who's delight to help others and even if i'm a begginer in Misplaced Pages and i don't know very well how the things are going here, i'll try to do my best for my contributions being notable and reliable. Now i'm not sure what will be next, but i'll wait and hope that this article Kord (band) will be recovered completely and maybe you'll help me to take this article to deletion review, please, 'cause i don't have any idea how to do that, i mean i read so many infos from Misplaced Pages and i didn't understand very well how the stuff works here.thanks Drokstef (talk) 00:04, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Let me know if i can help somehow, 'cause i would love to recover completely this article. Many thanks again for doing this. Drokstef (talk) 22:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Reply

It is YOUR obligation to prove it to others that your position is right. It is YOUR obligation to convince others. It is MY responsibility to close it according to consensus, in this case delete, and I am not obligated to do anything else. I am NOT disappointed at my decision to delete. And frankly, I find it extremely offensive that you tell me to discuss rationally on your first post, which comes across as an implicit assumption that I would not do so in the first place and need reminding.

Now, given that the deletion was on December 24, there might be new information that came up since then, and I respect that. In any case, you may have asked me for a copy in your userspace, and I would happily give one to you so you may improve it. But do not, under any circumstances, when there was absolutely no keep comments except for one person's in that debate, when any administrator would close as delete, come up to my talk page and accuse me of impropriety.

If you still want to dispute the deletion, then go to DRV. I am extremely disappointed at the needlessly accusatory tone in your post. —Kurykh 03:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

MizaBot III

• Thanks for helping me out. However, it's still not working. Could the issue be that I haven't created a sub-page for the archived messages to go onto? I've never done this before, what would be the next step? If you could drop a message on my talk page, it would be most appreciated. Cheers. Steve Crossin (talk) 09:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Move of Watershed (South African band)

You wrote:

Hello,

can you please kindly undo your move of Watershed (South African band) to Watershed (African band) for the following reasons, in no particular order

• We do not disambiguate bands by their continent.
• The band is not African (read: black racial group)
• The band's genre/style is definitely not African, it's alternative rock.
• In case you didn't know, and I think this may have been the cause of confusion, there is a country called South Africa. This refers to the Republic of South Africa, and not the region Southern Africa. Watershed are a South African band in the same way that U2 are an Irish band (not European band)

I would undo this move myself, but it seems to require administrator privilages.

Faithfully

Rfwoolf (talk) 15:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Your crucial point is almost certainly the first one, since none of the assumptions you hypothesized was present in my mind, let alone the basis of the change i made. If

1. you are correct that

   We do not disambiguate bands by their continent.

2. and the "we" you are speaking for reflects a consensus that has been accepted as overriding the relevant portions of WP:TITLE and WP:DAB (and conceivably WP:MOSDAB, tho i doubt that is relevant) then i will promptly accommodate you.

I considered immediately changing the dab'g suffix from (African band) to (Africa band) (without prejudice to any different change, or to a change back to either of the immediately previous titles), since it would seem to me to ameliorate the 2nd and 3rd points you cite (which i assume you find bad as sources of confusion). But if my inevitably poor response time until the US polls close on Tuesday is frustrating, perhaps it would ease the process more if i restore your preferred version (likewise without prejudice to other outcomes), at least until that eve.
My view, based on occasionally reading relevant portions of the pgs i cite above (but never carefully checking them in this regard), and thinking a lot, in the context of both policy formation and experience with individual cases, about what underlying model in my colleagues' minds seems to exist, is that the stated purpose and the examples given on the pages i cite, of titles with dab'g suffixes, supports the common-sense approach that the purpose of a dab'g suffix is to dab'ate with the most quickly readable text that will do the job. That makes me want to reduce the words devoted, beyond name and the fact of being a band, to one if feasible. If a band played in both Belgium and Luxembourg and had equal numbers of players of those nationalities, i wouldn't title its article Watershed (Belgian-Luxembourgish band); if it played throughout Belgium, i'd go with Watershed (Belgian band); if played equally in both countries, i might like Watershed (Luxembourgish band) -- but only bcz those would respectively stay short while catching what was distinctive (not a perfectly accurate statement). I don't mean to equate your request with the presumably promotional intentions that lead some editors to something like Watershed (white South African alternative-rock band). On the other hand, that differs only in degree from what i removed. Both provide

1. more information than necessary to distinguish it from Watershed (Columbus Ohio band),
2. at the cost of putting extra words in, which will waste the time and attention users.

The expansion of the dab't sfx is a bad way to provide additional information (the article content has that job, and is organized to get the most important info first), and anyone who concludes that Watershed is a black band is only likely to be harmed by that if they know the band they are looking for is white but don't realize it's from Africa. But a sensible reader says "that's ambiguous" and looks at the article content, not the mechanics of dealing with duplicated names, to get info.
Mistakes get made all the time as a result of editing boldly, and AFAIK, a WikiProject is likely to get confused about what its scope of decision making is, and set up a standard, contrary to the sensible overall guidelines and policies, for, say, dab'g band names, in an effort to provide more info, or less ambiguous info, or the same amount of info in multiple instances. Your expectation that continent names not be Dab'g sfx's sounds to me like that.
On the other hand, the full policies and guidelines are probably too much for most admins to have straight in their heads. I infer the approach i've described to you from the general thrust of how we do things, but i'm prepared to hear evidence that i'm mistaken. Tell me, or tell the talk page for the article in question, if you like, what your assertion is based on, and what evidence you find that the broader policies intend to leave that room. I've been wrong before "and it could happen a second time" . So i'm open to being convinced.
--Jerzy•t 06:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

---

You have asked me to supply evidence to simply say that the current wikipolicy does not encourage a "shorter is best" naming convention and you know that this is not possible - but of course there is the ignore all rules policy, and there is no policy specifically covering band names, but I'm afraid this all seems to be moot, since I could not find the policy that encourages the "shorter is best" naming convention in the first place. Perhaps you have misenterpreted the policy as saying "short is best" instead of "shorter is better". While shorter is better, surely accuracy and how the band is known as plays a significant part? Would it help you if I sent you press clippings and links to places describing Watershed as "South African band, Watershed, blah blah blah" ?

I find your implementation of the apparent policy (if the policy is true) problematic, at least in this case. The ignore all rules policy even part of the Manual of Style page for Disambiguation Pages found at WP:D states that there will always be articles where the application of its policies is inappropriate. You renamed the Columbus, Ohio band to just Ohio band (a state), therefore, should the South African band be renamed to the state that they're from? How well known do you think the state/province they're from is? (that state is "Gauteng". Very few people especially their fans in Germany where the band had a chart topper there) would have ever heard of Gauteng. Also, is the South African band even known as the band from that province? (whereas the band from Ohio is known to be from Ohio). The answer is no, Watershed is not known as the band from Gauteng, and nor are they known as the band from Africa. They are known as the band from South Africa.

Finally, I'm afraid the "shorter is betterbest" policy would be wrong in principal if it outright shortened all disambiguation names, simply because a) it ignores what those articles may be "known as" (e.g. Watershed is not known as African band) and b) while the new shorter disambiguation name might technically be "correct" you can easily lose accuracy. (e.g. "South African band" is more accurate than "African band". The reverse can also be true, you could disambiguate a band by the city they're from when the state or country they're from would actually be accurate enough and its popular name.

Rfwoolf (talk) 12:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I indeed owe you a response at this point, and i did review your last before awarding myself much needed sleep, after being short for several nights running. I expect to get in a few more hours of it before the day's tasks, which will include a harder look than i took yesterday at the relevant WP-namespace pages (which in fact i don't know by heart). I've just added you, as i write, onto my physical to-do list (i don't know enuf about the species to be sure nicknaming you aRdWOOLF on that list is inoffensive -- have to look that up!), but on the mental version, you were already behind acknowledging the EMail reunion with my new comrades of Monday and Tuesday, and making the overdue appt for my evaluation for oral surgery (literally -- not intended to imply "i'd rather go to the dentist than answer you!"). And you're ahead of the other campaign-related followup, motor-vehicle compliance, and (de facto, i am sure) before the meeting i promised to attend about 12 hours from now. Thought i'd look around before taking my Rxs & hibernating some more, and i'm glad to have caught your latest promptly; it'd have still been a shame even if you'd had to wait only this long for my substantive reply.

Let me know if you're not OK with our both replying at my talk, since that is now the more complete record of the substantive discussion. Thanks,
--Jerzy•t 12:10, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on reply; please let me know when you've stabilized the content. (I'm not inconvenienced by the template issues.)
--Jerzy•t 18:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Rfwoolf (need some assistance)

Hey, i just checked my sandbox User:Drokstef/Sandbox and i've noticed that someone add some new references about my article. I've notice the new reference to a youtube video and i saw you're saying about that reference it is in the wrong format. So, can you help me to improve my sanbox and put this new reference in a good format, please? And another question for you if you can help me with this too, when can i put the article in the original place? I mean, now can we put the page to deletion review because i see there are some new good improvements, six good references and some other stuff? You know better than me what's next for this article, so if i'm not asking to much, i'd really need your help, your advice/assistence. Thanks again Drokstef (talk) 23:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

JzG

Thanks for the notification. I have followed some of it, but I'm not getting involved - I have no desire to reopen that old wound. But I hope a constructive solution can be found, for everyone's sake. ATren (talk) 04:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Deleted article

Hi there: You may remember some months ago offering some helpful comments with respect to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kord (band), the contents of which I retrieved and moved to User:Drokstef/Sandbox. The author has now informed me that s/he feels the article is ready for deletion review. Although I've never initiated a deletion review before, I've agreed to shepherd the article and have begun, as recommended, by asking the deleting admin for comments. I intend to take no position and I don't mean this to be canvassing in any way; feel free to comment, or not, as the spirit moves you and to recommend any outcome you feel is appropriate. I just felt that since you had been interested in the article, you might care to make further comments about its readiness for deletion review, even if you don't offer a direct opinion in the review itself. If you have any questions or comments, I'm at your service. Accounting4Taste:talk 02:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Requesting feedback on rewritten TurnKey Linux article

Hi Rfwoolf! After that exhausting mess last month I took a wiki vacation to calm down and get some perspective. Now I'm back and would like your opinion. I've rewritten the article at User:Abd/TurnKey Linux and added reliable sources (the non-english sources are in the talk page). I also opened a RfC but so far no one has commented. Could you take a look and give me some feedback? Thanks! LirazSiri (talk) 09:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

RFC on JzG

I think you'll be interested in this: Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/JzG_3. JzG finally getting some scrutiny for his behavior. LirazSiri (talk) 02:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi LirazSiri. Thanks for dropping me a line. Yes I was aware of the new RfC and have been following it with great interest. However you say that JzG is "finally getting some scrutiny for his behavior" - you will note by the title of the RfC that this is in fact the 3rd RfC filed against JzG and I do believe if you look within the first two you will see "countless" references to incivility, and personal attacks made by JzG which would have had any other Wikipedian banned in a jiffy, and yet, he was let off with a slap on the wrist. In other words this is definitely not the first time the JzG is getting scrutiny for his behaviour, and while I share your distaste for his behaviour I have very little faith that the outcome will be anything more than perhaps another slap on the wrist. I did read your Outside Comment and think you did a great job - well thought out and very true, especially for a new Wikipedian such as yourself (it can take ages to familiarise oneself with WikiPolicy and you appear to speak quite relavantly on the matter - I think your comments were constructive). I on the other hand won't make an outside comment because a) I've been involved with JzG in the past, b) I have been totally uninvolved in the Cold Fussion debate and this incident, and c) I don't think I'd have anything constructive to add. | JzG apparently believes that he is beyond reproach and his cronies seem all the while willing to sanction all of his behaviour. What is in fact the most frustrating to me is that in ANY debate about JzG be it a Request for Comment or a notice on the Administrator's Notice Board, they will make it their mission in life to detract from the discussion at hand and try to twist the discussion into something it is not - this happens not just with JzG issues but with many deletion reviews and debates. If you go into court the judge and the lawyers would all be cognizant of the protocol and what is relevant and what is not and the judge would throw out anything that is not relevant (often subject to an objection from the defence). It is disappointing to see some ad hominem attacks and sidetracking taking place. All of this is par for the course on Misplaced Pages. Is it the system that is broken or is it the people? Well I say both. Firstly I have a strong opinion that the Articles for Deletion and Deletion Review system stinks because there is a culture that incentivizes deletions - admins put boxes in their profiles bragging about how many articles they nominated for deletion - people browse "Articles for Deletion" not to save them but to delete them - so there's definitely a bias. But beyond the system, for whatever reason, the problem also lies in the people. There seems to be cronyism and corruption amongst the ranks of the admins: they tend to stick up for eachother and turn a blind eye to eachother's transgressions. Power corrupts and seems to be corrupting here. Some admins seem to believe that they are beyond reproach. Over the years that I have been members of online communities I have learnt time and time again that they are outlets for personalities in the world where there can be a dissonance between who we really are and who we would like to be, in other words in an online community such as wikipedia you will find a great concentration of individuals who spend hours and days selflessly contributing to the project, but who subconsciously feed off it in ways that ultimately hamper the project. Anyways look at my rambling off here using this as an outlet perhaps just like our tainted admins!! -- Thanks again for dropping me a line and let's see what happens! Rfwoolf (talk) 00:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Your request

I have re-closed the Gere/Gerbil RfC per your comment on the talkpage, where you requested a neutral administrator. If you have any dispute about my neutrality, please come over to my talkpage, but I think I am probably ok in that area. I think the discussion is lost in BLP swinging - the key point in the consensus is a combination of things, mostly to do with the undue weight of including this information in a biography. Have a look at my close here and come by and chat of you think I've made some egregious error. Fritzpoll (talk) 09:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

AN/I

Hello, Rfwoolf. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Crotchety Old Man : WP:TALKO violation/warring and abusive edit summaries. Thank you. --Cyclopia 10:42, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject South Africa

I have recently overhauled WikiProject South Africa with the following:

• Improving collaboration of participants by adding an Open tasks section with specific as well as common tasks
  • Added link to the CatScan tool to find articles needing cleanup, referencing and expanding
  • Added common tasks that should be performed on Portal:South Africa
  • Added information on how to add Geographical coordinates
  • Added articles missing Images
  • Added assessment information
• Improving the layout to make access to information easier
• Added simple "How can I help?" instructions for new project members
• Extended the Resources section to assist participants in finding South Africa related information
• Added bot generated Article alerts
• Added a bot generated Cleanup listing
• Added more information on template usage
• Added a section on language usage
• Improved the categories section with trees for category:South Africa Misplaced Pages administration and category:South Africa
• Added link to Misplaced Pages Books
• Marked inactive sections of the project as inactive

Comments, constructive criticism and suggestions for improving it further are welcome --NJR_ZA (talk) 07:31, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

talk:Richard Gere

Please don't undo BLP courtesy blankings without first consulting other administrators or the arbcom. Thank you ˉˉ╦╩ 01:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Photo request

Hello! Do you take photo requests? If so, would you mind photographing the headquarters of South African Airways in Kempton Park and the headquarters of Comair Limited in Bonaero Park? Thank you WhisperToMe (talk) 00:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I found the exact location of the South African offices: Google Maps View - If you want to do the photo request, this should help you locate them. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:26, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

South African Wikimedia Chapter

Hi there. The idea of setting up a local Wikimedia chapter has been discussed by South African Wikipedians (and those associated with other Wikimedia projects) for some time now, and we want to help turn this dream into a reality. There are currently over 25 chapters established around the world, and several more planned and being discussed, but so far, none in Africa. A South African chapter, should it become a reality, would be a continental first. If you're interested in being involved in the creation of a South African Wikimedia Chapter, could you please email me directly :). In the meantime, Greenman is setting up a ZA mailing list so we'll be in touch again soon. Thanks and have a great World Cup Opening day, Kaydee 68 (talk) 07:15, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Stellenbosch to bid for Wikimania 2012!

Hi RF Woolf!

The nascent South African Wikimedia chapter has decided to bid to host Wikimania in Stellenbosch, South Africa in 2012. This would be the first Wikimania in South Africa, and would be a great advertisement for our country. Please take a look at meta:Wikimania_2012/Bids/Stellenbosch. If you can add to the discussion, please do. If you feel that you are able to do anything to help, please join the Wikimedia South Africa mailing list and let us know. Even simple messages of support are valued!

Best regards,

David Richfield

Wiki Loves Monuments in South Africa

Dear WikiProject South Africa Wikipedians

This is an urgent call from Wikimedia South Africa. We are currently working hard on the South African side of the exciting international photographic competition, Wiki Loves Monuments . We have been planning to make this national competition really take off, but to do so, we need your help! The competition starts on the 1st September, and we need your help now! If you are interested in being part of or can help the Wiki Loves Monuments national organising team, then please join here . If you have limited time, but want to help out at an upload marathon at a heritage site near you, please then contact either Lourie or Isla . We look forward to hearing from you!"

Kind regards, Lourie

Sent by Lucia Bot in 14:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Call for Wikipedians in Residence in Africa

Hello,

I hope you are well and thriving!! WikiAfrica has just put out a call for two Wikipedians in Residence. One in Cape Town at WikiAfrica, at the Africa Centre; and the other for WikiAfrica Cameroon in Douala, at doual’art. If you are interested, please contact either Marilyn for the WikiAfrica Cameroon call or Isla for the WikiAfrica position in Cape Town.

If you are not interested in applying, I would be very grateful if you could spread this call far and wide among your networks to ensure that both projects get excellent candidates. Here is the link for the information page: http://www.wikiafrica.net/two-wikipedians-in-residence-for-africa/

Best regards, Islahaddow

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Women in Red World Contest

Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!