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===10 May 2021=== | |||
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====Suspected sockpuppets==== | |||
{{checkuser|1=Heba Aisha}} | |||
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Note: this SPI contains Cross wiki evidence. | |||
Heba is a sockpuppet of {{u|Editor wikip6}} | |||
I've compiled a list of heavy behavioural evidence and similar interests to show how the blocked sock wikip6 is operating the new heba account. | |||
Heba account was created on 29 june 2020 after the previous sock was blocked on 12 june 2020 within 2weeks you can compare this | |||
The interests are very similar related to kushwaha castes and overlap on many articles heavily . | |||
*Wiki6 has uploaded the sketch of politician ] And as expected heba also uploaded a image of ]'s statue image similiar interest in politicians both have edited ] page and ](200+ edits by heba and around 60 by wiki6) extensively. (refer to user interaction report as mentioned above) | |||
*Heba's uploaded was ] near ] bihar from VIVO 1714 on 14:48, 19 September 2020, Wikip6's was also ] same area] From VIVO 1714 on 02:32, 19 September 2020 , it can only be possible that wiki6 and heba both were at present in ] on ] using ] , if Heba account is operated by wikip6's owner.This is conclusive evidence.(Note :please check the image links and see their information in the bottom of file page and these coordinates are public and uploaded by heba and wiki6 respectively on their file pages,anyone can see them at anytime.) | |||
* Heba's Image and were both clciked from VIVO 1714 on 17 September 2020 and wikip6's was also clicked from VIVO 1714 SAME DEVICE model on 21:05, 18 September 2020 . two images uploaded in less than 24 hours of eachother from same device cant just be a coincidence. both are accounts are operated by same person with same device ! | |||
*When hebas created page about bihar under lalu yadav was nominated for deletion wikip6 suddenly came online out of 5 months of inactivity and requested rudra yaduvanshi on his talk page to heres the translation of the statement by wiki6 "i want to tell you that on English wikipedia the article "Bihar under Lalu Prasad Yadav" has been nominated for deletion, if you want you can vote "support" in the discussion so that the article doesn't get deleted." ,similiar behaviour to Heba as heba has also invited quite she was also called out by .both are engaging in cross wiki sock-meat puppetry, If wiki6 is a different user, how did find out about deletion nomination and what's the need for inviting other users(exactly like heba) to contest it if he isn't connected to that article, he is blocked on en.wiki and his account was dormant too. | |||
*] has added the same information] that purbiyas were considered as pseudo rajputs | |||
*And heba aisha has contributed immensely to ] page and blocked sock also has immensely edited article aswell both have edited article immensely in span of 5months. (refer to for comparison. | |||
* writing style which is similar to heba where she refers to a user by ure and u on 12 july which is only 30days after the her previous account wikip6 was blocked | |||
*heba And suddenly wikip6 came online on commons after 6 months of inactivity to this is a strong proof that once heba had uploaded the image she may have been automatically or accidentally logged out due to browsing commons after browsing en.wikipedia a very common bug,i myself has experienced it and then when she tried to log in she may have logged into her previous sockpuppet account as browser saves your login info and autofills it without noticing that she is logged in her previous account she edited her recently uploaded image (only 1hour after uploading) so this is the strongest indicator of her being a sockpuppet along with cross wiki sock- meatpuppetry as mentioned above . | |||
* ''''Other Cross Wiki Abuse''' : on hindi wiki both heba and editor wikip6 edited same article ] and heba restored the revision which was last edited by wiki6 this means heba preferred the version of her sockpuppet. Requesting for block as evidence is very strong. | |||
*From the user and its obvious its her sockpuppet. Both accounts are from bihar, has contributed to bihar related pages including extensive contributions to kushwaha and koeri page, according to his userpage , wikip6 is a "dog lover" heba also owns dogs and has uploaded quite a few images of her dogs aswell. editor wiki6 has image of ashokan era piller on his user page underneath it the text states,"Hello,I have visited all the historical places associated with Mauryan empire" the heba also has a quote extracted from an ashokan rock edit on her aswell both seem to be interested in ]. ] (]) 10:57, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
====<big>Comments by other users</big>==== | |||
<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See ].''</small> | |||
::It doesn't make sense as the accused blocked sock has made edits only to a few caste articles. I have a different edit history and interest. Also, one such sockpuppet investigation against me in which someone brought the same accused sockpuppetr, checkuser and admins made it clear that we have no relation. ] (]) 23:11, 10 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Also, recently checkuser had shown possibility about the user who brought me here to be the sock of "Showbiz", ], here also I was proved innocent. ] (]) 23:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::You were not proved innocent the checkuser said "LukeEmily and Heba Aisha are Unrelated to each other" not the wikip6. CU admin didn't said anything between you and wikip6 as wikip6 was stale but as wikip6 has made edits as recently as 17feb im reopening this SPI as such so action can be taken. And those aren't few edits though you both have edited Kushwaha koeri and leaders from said castes extensively . | |||
{{Od}} | |||
Everything you are taking is related to other sister project of wikipedia. I rarely contribute to them as i have issues with Hindi. I don't think admins or CU here are responsible for other sister projects. Also, all your claims are baseless. ] (]) 03:11, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Also, I went through Koeri and Kushwaha related edits of sockmaster, you are accusing to be me. They are basically novice edits with lack of ] and also tend to glorify the community. My edits are completely different. Also, I have written many caste article from scratch. The sockmaster hasn't contributed to other caste articles. ] (]) 03:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::They aren't baseless the blocked sock of Wiki6 has edited and added same information about purbiyas (rajputs from eastern side) and them being considered "pseudo Rajput" by their western counterparts , this exactly same information was on ] page aswell. ] (]) 04:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::: Based on above reading and knowledge of @Heba Aisha's editing pattern, I must say this looks like it can be a sock of @Heba Aisha. I too recommend to get this connection checked by checkuser. ] (]) 04:55, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''Replying to Sikandar khan67''' | |||
This is a very common information which i knew from my reading, on google search I found this book and just a simple line can't connect me to sock. Infact that article in present version is 80% my work. I didn't added that line only also many user copy stuff from any particular article to add into another.] (]) 04:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
<br>'''Replying to Sajaypal007''' | |||
Sajaypal and I have been involved in bitter discussion at ] talk page along with {{u|LukeEmily}}. He was upset with our edits which led the page towards version he didn't preferred. Admins could see his comment on my talk page ] which shows his dissatisfaction with me. Also many editors later also tried to bring him into ] to block or book me. ] is an evidence and the latest comment also talks about it. I am not replying to anyone as i have said, wat i had to say. It seems all those editors who were not satisfied with my edit are coordinating at this point of time to act against me. From my edit history reviewing admins can see that I was subjected to attacks by many caste Warriors in past. My talk page is testimony to that. Will like to leave it to admin as i haven't violated any policy and my behaviourial evidences with the accused sockmaster is not worth considering, if one look at wide areas i contribute. ] (]) 05:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::: Actually let me make it simple. {{u|Bishonen}} blocked various editors who were POV pushing on Rajput caste related pages. There was a facebook group too. Now all of them have suddenly come on the same floor. Also regarding sockmaster, there is humangous difference between content I added on ] article and those added by him. Leaving it to admins to decide. ] (]) 05:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''Regarding my user page "Ashoka pillar''' | |||
That's ridiculous, I put it as I was inspired by quote from page of {{noping|Kautilya3}}, he quotes ], I quote ]. Plz stop this useless allegations, if you don't get solid proof. ] (]) 05:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
] can you please elaborate? Do you think that all of the evidence presented here is baseless and false? Please go through all of them and then put your judgement. Pinging ] ,] to atleast consider evidence presented.] (]) 07:57, 11 May 2021 (UTC)<br> | |||
'''Regarding Jagdeo Prasad image''' | |||
The image of a notable person can be uploaded by many people. How it links me to the sock. Why don't you talk of 100s of other images which I uploaded where the sock has not made any edits. Choosing one two statement and one two images where unfortunately the sock met me is not going to prove anything. Why | |||
can't I doubt that the sock editor wikip6 is also a part of "your group" as you have done so much homework on me to get me blocked anyhow. ? ] (]) 09:06, 11 May 2021 (UTC)<br> | |||
'''Note to CU and admins''' | |||
there has been off wiki coordination in past by some of the ] caste related vandals in past through this facebook group. {{U|LukeEmily}} made me aware of this on my talk page. This happened when {{Noping|Anony20}} was sanctioned. Some of the vandal accounts were old than mine. It is possible that all are targeting me. As the guy accusing me above has done a lot of homework for months (it seems) on my edits. It is possible that Editorwikip6 can share the same Geolocation as of theirs and possibly mine also as i am a resident of ] and subjecte interest of a these editors and sockmaster also points that they also belong to same state. In fact my Geolocations could be same as of Sikandar khan67 as he also seems to belong to same place. ] (]) 09:17, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:: important evidence i have is that Heba's Image was clicked from VIVO 1714 on 08:40, 17 September 2020 and wikip6's was also clicked from VIVO 1714 SAME DEVICE model on 21:05, 18 September 2020 . two images uploaded in less than 24 hours of eachother from same device cant just be a coincidence. both are accounts are operated by same person with same device ! ] (]) 12:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::'''Vivo''' and '''Xiomi''' have penetrated indian market to such an extent that you can see them in every hand. I use '''Xiomi''' and in my home there is '''vivo''' phone too. Infact, you can find them in every hand. Just look at trend of chinese electronics export into Indian market. It proves nothing. May be you are also using same device. ] (]) 09:22, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::{{u|Blablubbs}} and {{U|Bishonen}}, this is an example of "bad faith" accusation. Some time ago one of my article was nominated for delition by a ]. The user Sikandar khan67 being a one month old user, how does he know that much about me? It seems that in order to protect himself from accusations and to check his edits from being examined, the accusations are made. {{U|Heybata}} may be none other than Sikandar himself. ] (]) 11:44, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Please dont divert the topic and i've already stated that what you're doing is a strawman fallacy and distraction fallacy on ], if you dont have any concrete evidence to defend yourself please dont make such arguments they neither help you or us. and you said a "Facebook group" is targeting you well going through its link its Not a Group but a page with very few (25 subscribers) and last post was in early December i can't understand how a small inactive PAGE with almost zero ( backed by the fact that mosts posts have zero likes or comments) interaction between its subscribers and other FB users is targeting you, and let alone me being a involved in it,and you have zero evidence to prove your exponential allegations made obvious faith which you're accusing me of and heres between me and all of heybata's socks anyone can make out that we are noway related to eachother. ] (]) 12:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::You have not explained how do you know about that delition discussion ? It makes my doubt further strong. There is no doubt that you've been here with more accounts and now manipulating some of the wiki processes to book me. Also for a one month old account, such a wide knowledge about the discussions and edits i made is itself doubtful. ] (]) 13:12, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{Od}} | |||
There is a common pattern for the socks to edit in other area to get extended confirmed status and then resort to their target pages. I can see the barely 150 edits you have made are not useful and just done to increase your edit count. The target page is ] related pages where you removed sourced materials and that too with same reasons the socks like {{u|Monarcho-fascist}} and others of {{u|Showbiz826}} ] (]) 13:17, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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'''About ''' | |||
*Some of the pages are edited by me and Sockmaster but content is different and also the sourcing and other stuffs. Since I edit ] related articles and it is common to browse through similar articles, the interactions happened. I cant see apart from Koeri and Kushwaha we ever interacted to edit heavily. Meanwhile, the sockmaster has edited only those two caste articles. I have written many articles from scratch which he never touched. It includes ], ], ], ], ] etc. I have also created indian history and politics related article (more than 25+ ] ), in which area sockmaster had no interest. ] (]) 13:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::CU from the investigation has already proven that im at different geolocation from the showbiz and please you're supposed to defend yourself against my allegations here not put allegations against me i think all youre doing is distracting me and trying to make arguments deeper and deeper which is something i've observed of you as you tend to argue a lot on topics which are not even related to the one at hand . I guess that's a just a attempt at distraction by making straw man arguments. So i think i shouldn't argue any further from now and waste my time.thank you] (]) 13:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''About ''' | |||
* I have never cared about it. I know a lot of people follow my edits due to my area being a controversial one i.e ]. Infact, recently also i recalled . Unfortunately he is blocked now, infact he also shared the place from where I have done my post graduation course. See this. ] (]) 14:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''About my edits on Hindi wikipedia''' | |||
*Yes I , but just check the later addition on that article by novice editors. I don't prefer to write in ] and Wikip6 is an "Extended Confirmed User" there and also not blocked there. So it's common for anyone to edit to last best version. In similar way I usually revert vandalised article to version by established editors on english wikipedia. In fact everyone does that. Like . ] (]) 14:20, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''Regarding my edits and followed up edits by sockmaster''' | |||
* Due to topic area i selected, a lot of people support and same number of people hate me, as you can see from my talk page. It is possible that like user i pointed above Wiki6 have done that and many others have also, i dont even recall, how many people abused me here on my talk page, same happens with other caste editors. ] (]) 14:38, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::('''On allegations of cross wiki abuse''' :, ] article on ] wikipedia is heavily edited and i have reverted it to best version one or two times. Its not only the version by wikip6 only, i have a habit of tracking past and the last edit made by an established editor is my preferred version, like here i did , when i reverted to version of such an editor. ] (]) 02:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''Regarding my invitations to other editors on delition discussion''' | |||
* {{noping|Rudra Yaduvanshi}} has been commenting on my talk page for a number of times.], I never chosed to reply (or support), if i had to collude with him, i must have engaged in discussion with him. I have already clarified that a lot of people follow my edits, some support and others oppose my edits on ]. There is possibility that {{noping|Editor wikip6}}, {{noping|Rudra yaduvanshi}} and {{noping|Himanshu Kushwaha 01}} are coordinating off wiki and may be they like what i do. But, let me tell, i have never tried to move away by this and infact i was one who opened sockpuppet investigation against him even after . It will be kind '''if {{U|Blablubbs}} or any other CU check Geolocations of {{noping|Himanshu Kushwaha 01}} and {{u|Editor wikip6}}. I have a deep feeling that they share the same location or are anyhow related. There is possibility that, i may belong to same Geolocation. I have clarified already caste is an area, where a lot of people are interested.(''Note: It was me who made Himanshu Kushwaha 01 blocked as i saw him involved in unconstructive edits'') ] (]) 03:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::Going further, the and interestingly involved in same ] caste related articles like {{u|Editor wikip6}}, uses same ] (he might be a ]). Even after i opened sockpuppet investigation . Seriously, I don't like such a support which get me involved in accusation of sockpuppetry. ] (]) 04:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''About the image location at ]''' | |||
*Yes, image was clicked at ], which is capital of Bihar frequently visited by almost all students. I remember ] as well], i have already provided the account link above, one can search his interest also to be same. I got him blocked, same interest and one common location, which is most visited place in Bihar doesn't guarantee that i and he are same. Checking Geolocations of the editors I have mentioned above may provide a clear idea. ] (]) 06:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::When I visited patna I clicked other images too *+ I am a travel lover, this is from ], an another ] of ]~, this is from ] an another place . Out of numerous images i added, only one's location coincided. As ] is capital and education hub here. Its not a clue, just a coincidence. ] (]) 07:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::Like {{u|Editor wikip6}}, i can see {{noping|Himanshu Kushwaha 01}} also edited ], even ], image of which, i added to wikipedia commons. Ironically, I opened a sockpuppet investigation against him and made him blocked. This clarifies I have no relation to any of them either wikip6 or Himanshu, we just share common interest, though a little bit. They're involved mostly in pov pushing at ] related pages. I have a wide area to contribute. ] (]) 07:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''Biggest proof of coordination by some editors against me-off wiki''' | |||
*Interestingly, when i was checking love and hate massages on my talk page , , to my surprise, this is the same '''Sabre toothed tiger''' image, which {{u|Editor wikip6}} . This was according to me, by an attempt by him, to collude with him (may be, knowingly unknowingly my edits on ] or ] liked by him). The user was blocked soon by admins. ] (]) 13:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:: by reading your comments of your reply at "Regarding Jagdeo Prasad image" it seems you're trying to accuse me or "some group which you think i m a part of" of creating {{u|Editor wiki6}} account (created on 23 april 2020 ) and then extensively editing ] and ], ] etc,the said articles which will also be edited by you heavily in next 4months so i can "trap" your account which will be created in future on 29june 2020 in an SPI. Totally makes sense.] (]) 14:27, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::: I am keeping my points, I Kept was not created today by me. Yes! I am targeted by few groups and supported by others. Above one is clearly related to sockmaster {{u|Editor wikip6}}. I joined wiki in COVId lockdown, and in june i am certainly not the only person to make account. Editing style says a lot. Sockmaster had done only non verifiable pov edits on those two articles and a sock should have done that too. My edits are supported by sources and are not contentwise same. I would say, a person from same caste may call it "insulting" to community as ] to ], something . The edits which socks of {{U|Showbiz826}} are doing are also related to ] stuff from ] pages, which you also did. ] (]) 17:37, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''About ] article''' | |||
* was added by ] volunteer {{noping|Twofingered Typist}} and interestingly ~ it doesn't mean both are same. If we glance through google we will find similar sources and anyone will write what is available to us. I chose that article initially as it was incomplete and later i moved to others. Sockmaster in whole wikipedia career stuck to that only. ] (]) 17:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''Image of folk deity Chauharmal''' | |||
*] is the only route which ] via ]. Anyone from south Bihar will have to cross at Hajipur to reach ]. The ] statue, if you can look at the coordinates is located at the side of ] road. There are multiple editors from this area active on wiki as I saw when I edit various Bihar related pages. Not all of them is me. ] (]) 06:13, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::Further, there is a deliberate attempt, which i can see to violate privacy and know locations of mine by this user which this statement clarifies: {{talkquote| it can only be possible that wiki6 and heba both were at present in same area on Same day using Same mobile device , if Heba account is operated by wikip6's owner.This is conclusive evidence.(Note : these coordinates are public and uploaded by heba and wiki6 respectively.)}} I am not going to reply further on this. I have already clarified that i travel a lot within the state and in future, you can see many images from other parts of ]. I don't care about whether a blocked sock is also operating from there or not. This also solidifies my belief of off-wiki coordination against me to know about my real life location and '''''' ] (]) 06:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Let me talk about some more editors whom i met here. It is easy to guess their location from edit history. {{noping|Advaita2222}}, who . Similarly, {{noping|Himanshu Kushwaha 01}} and his associate socks were also from same region of ]-] as they said. Infact most of ] editors you will find are from this region. (proximity to capital ]). Rest Bihar is rural. ] (]) 06:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::Admins plz, Look at this threatening messages:{{Talk quote|, i know you are from bihar , you know alot and your contributions towards wikipedia, sometime i thinks you and other partner emily is paid hired editors joined wikipedia last year, also selective and baised content approach of your edits and reverting is also well known , wikipedia is aimed to provide information to needy ones not a platform for your hatered filled thoughts and vandals and baised approach towards a community , a lot of such stuff which you are referencing from books is leftist writers content and newly written from past 20 30 years , it is a sincere request to you to kindly stop this hatered and baised approach , '''we are in touch with respective cyber authorities''' from 10th january after filing a complaint to distrupt communal harmony by some wikipedia users over misuse of open source platforms to distrupt communal harmony}}, from that blocked user {{noping|Loneltrussia}}. ] (]) 06:50, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
Like i've said two times already please dont bring comments of other blocked users which aren't relevant to the topic at hand.and you yourself have uploaded those coordinates anyone can see that and know where you've clicked these images at.] (]) 07:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
] what about extremely similar behavioural evidence,please give it a look both have uploaded images from same device at same location aswell on same day ] (]) 10:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:: I'm not arguing here but ] ip addresses do change very frequently and heba also uses three mobile devices so technical results can be different,any thank you so much co-operating.] (]) 10:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
====<big>Comments by ]</big>==== | |||
* Evidence : | |||
# https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Baidyanath_Prasad_Mahto.jpg (deleted as copyvio, ) - Uploaded by {{noping|User:Heba_Aisha}} - uploaded on 7 December 2020 | |||
# https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Baidyanath_Mahto.jpg - uploaded by ] - uploaded on 14 October 2020 | |||
The deleted image is from {{url|1=http://loksabhaph.nic.in/Members/MemberBioprofile.aspx?mpsno=4454}}. The article on the subject is ], both the sock-master and accused have edited the page see {{url|1=https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Baidyanath_Prasad_Mahto}}. The article still uses the same image as on the loksabhaph.nic.in but locally stored on en-wiki as fair usage at ]. | |||
* Both the accounts have an extensive copyright volation records on their wikimedia commons logs, see ]. Upload logs on commons for and . I would like to point that the images of politicians uploaded by both the accounts are from the same location in India, particlulary Bihar (a state in India). ]? -- ] 20:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
* Also note that {{noping|User:Heba_Aisha}}, used the pronoun "we" at ]. Are they a group of people? -- ] 20:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I am recalling, while i was taking part in this discussion on commons. And gathering evidences to support that these image are fair. I noted that one user had in past uploaded the images of same set of politicians and others too in past, that got deleted due to same reasons. These are ]s from Bihar and in past, ] profile images], as i did. I can't find that user account right now on commons which uploaded many images of politician (actually from same place and of same set of people), but it will be helpful if someone place it here. ] (]) 21:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::On commons the image uploaded by me are from various location in Bihar. As I live here. As pointed above two of them could be from Patna. But I have uploaded from ] district, , this also from ], , this from ] district, , this near ] & this near ]. Basically, I travel and click. I visited ] too and clicked there too. ] (]) 21:36, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::I was about to upload more images from ], but stuck after it was nominated for delition en masse. The images i uploaded included ] and Currently 40 ]s are from Bihar and its common that two people may upload same politicians. The sockmaster has also uploaded that particular image, but i uploaded other images also apart from that. Meanwhile, I can see his upload were in complete violation of Copyright policy, mine happened due to lack of understanding about "General Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy" (and '''usage of GODL-India license)''', and even reviewers have varying interpretation. One example is , from same website where i took images of politicians, but not deleted yet and . ] (]) 21:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''Baidyanath Prasad Mahto image''' | |||
* If Editor Wikip6 had uploaded it and why i needed to . ] died this year, he was a ]. Usually, when some notable people die, we see a lot of activity on their wikipedia articles. This is the reason that brought me there and as i was aware of "Fair Use" criteria, I uploaded that image. I can see from Wiki6 commons history that they've been engaged in gross ], I have already clarified, my images were deleted not due to Copyvio but " lack of understanding on GDSAP Policy of Government of India". Also "We" and "Our" are words used by me to denote such editors who are at my level of understanding about policies, connection to a group of people is overthinking. ] (]) 00:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::Pointing again towards , I will like to say: Me and Wikip6 crossed way sometimes on ] caste related articles and images. ] is also a politician from same ]. But, I have contributed to people from other caste too. , which got deleted (they're of people of different caste), since Wiki6 must have followed me and liked what i do, and having blocked here, he chosed to come with a different account. ] (]) 01:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
====Comments by IP==== | |||
{{hat|Trolling. --]|] 09:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)}} | |||
Let me be perfectally honest here; These SPI along with the SPI against Sikander (of Showbiz826) looked to me completly baseless as both Sikander & Heba hates each others guts and are hell bent on getting each other blocked, To be fair no one looks like a sock to me. However due to their basless allegations they are disturbing the ] of blocked user. Therefore, I advice to block both Sikander and Heba for basless allegations against each other to satisfy their animosity, Give them a block to teach them a lesson. So these users won't disturb time of admins and Standard offer of blocked sock. Utter Nonsense. | |||
{{tq|Please do take a note and also Stop this SPI along with the one at Showbiz826 (against Sikander), Both of them are disturbing Standard offer of blocked user to satisfy their hatered for each other, Its really annoying for poor blocked user to tag him with any random vandal. Similar thing was done by a user 2 weeks before, Absent-Minded report. Please take action against them}}] (]) 04:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:I think this ip address is of {{u|Showbiz826}}. | |||
*The ] (the comment posters' ip is from ] Haryana). | |||
*Recently same ip address edited ] ] and was ] Alivardi for sockpuppetrythis ip also from ] . | |||
*The ip has also commented at ] and there he was upset that "such ill minded " SPI's keep on distributing the blocked account's (Showbiz826) ], and I think what you're engaging in is called Sockpuppetry. ] (]) 05:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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====Comments by sajaypal007==== | |||
*Heba Aisha added this image on ] page of english wikipedia on 03 Oct 2020 as her own work [ | |||
and on 8th Oct 2020, wikip6 added the same image on hindi wikipedia | |||
*As I and Heba Aisha were discussing some controversial paragraphs on talk page of english wiki some of which were added by Heba Aisha, the user wikip6 during same period had added those controversial paragraphs on Rajput page of hindi wiki, I read all those additions and knew that this user must be Heba Aisha but I didn't know that he/she also edited english wiki with that same account otherwise I would have complained at that time. | |||
*As pointed by another user that the account of Heba Aisha may be operated by a team, I must add one thing that I don't know whether they are team or an individual but its true that the account of Heba Aisha was almost always logged in because as soon as I made any edit or comments on talk page of Rajput page where we discussed for many weeks, whether I did it late night, early morning, evening or any other time, within 2-3 hours, he/she reverted that edit or replied to that comment. | |||
* Finally I advise to apply ], "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". ] (]) 06:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::'''Reply by Heba Aisha'''~ Do you forget the content {{noping|LukeEmily}} ] article was {{noping|Chariotrider555}}, if someone follows other editors, it is common to do so. In fact editors on ] wikipedia are just copying article and translating it in ] to create content there. Example is ] & , Ditto copied. ] (]) 06:57, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
====<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==== | |||
*See ].--] (]) 15:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*Typical retaliatory report. Baseless, please close. ] | ] 07:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC). | |||
**Reply to {{u|Sikandar khan67}}: I have posted on your page. ] | ] 08:01, 11 May 2021 (UTC). | |||
***{{yo|Bishonen}} So, I haven't given this a full examination, but I recommend against quickly closing this without further review. Yes, the filing may well be retaliatory (if we're honest, ''most'' SPIs are the result of people looking into other editors following editorial conflict{{snd}}accusing your wikifriends of socking is a rare occurence), but I wouldn't consider it inherently baseless: sequence of events, where a dormant sockmaster comes out of hibernation to within under two hours of the upload, does give me pause. I know it is stressful to be accused of socking; please sit tight, I'll try to get on this either tonight or tomorrow if nobody else processes the case first. On a different note, {{yo|Sikandar khan67}} We've had to refactor this SPI a few times now. Please do not collapse the evidence, and filings . New evidence should go into new bullets, followed by a new signature. Best, --]|] 10:41, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
****Sure, ], keeping it open is fine. Note, though, I didn't mean "retaliatory" in the way you suggest, but in the sense of revenge for the SPI Heba Aisha had filed a few hours earlier. ] | ] 10:51, 11 May 2021 (UTC). | |||
*****I know{{snd}}I was trying to make a more general point about SPIs often being filed because of grudges of one sort or another; I should have probably phrased that better. :) --]|] 10:59, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*{{yo|Sikandar khan67|Heba Aisha}} Since this case was opened about 24 hours ago, 75 edits have been made to this page, the overwhelming majority of which were made by you two. I understand that the topic area is contentious and that being accused of socking is stressful, but I do want to stress that SPI is not the venue to litigate wider conduct issues. Comments about possible socking by Sikandar should go to the relevant SPI, comments about wider conduct issues should go to dispute resolution noticeboards. You are welcome to present concrete evidence and concrete rebuttals relevant to this case here, but I will hat or remove any comments that aren't conducive to this SPI being processed. Thanks. --]|] 14:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*{{comment|Steward note}} I was asked by Blablubbs to conduct a checkuser investigation at hi.wikipedia for Heba Aisha and Editor wikip6. When investigating, I did not find any connection between the two accounts. If enwiki CUs are interested in the raw data, please let me know. --] (]) 09:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*As noted by Martin, I did ask for a check (on hi because the master is definitely not stale there and because this would involve xwiki socking) given that there are some very peculiar interactions and similarities here (devices, geolocations, the master coming out hibernation for Aisha-related matters multiple times etc.), but I am unwilling to endorse action based on the CU result. Things like the interaction on Commons worry me quite a bit, and I do think there's a decent chance of off-wiki coordination here (on all sides, as is the norm in highly contentious topic areas){{snd}}if that is indeed the case: Knock it off. I also want to remind everyone that Misplaced Pages is neither a game nor a battleground; {{yo|Sikandar khan67}} Your conduct here and in related SPIs borders on the disruptive (e.g. ){{snd}}stop it, please. And yes, the IP is very likely Showbiz, who seems to enjoy making unhelpful onlooker commentary at SPI while logged out. Closing without action. --]|] 09:34, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*{{yo|Sikandar khan67}} I ''have'' looked at the evidence, and I've made my call. I'm not comfortable endorsing action given the technical result. --]|] 10:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*{{yo|Sikandar khan67}} A technical finding of {{unrelated}}, which is what we're looking at here, is based on more than just on an individual IP address or device{{snd}}it depends on geolocation, ranges, ISPs, timing and various other factors. I trust Martin's result; and while there is some significant behavioural complexity involved here, it is not enough for me to push the technical findings to the side. --]|] 10:56, 13 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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