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{{initiated|19:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)}} There's been a lot of contention over the cricket notability guidelines, with large numbers of AfDs recently causing much discussion within the project and outside of the project, and the RfC period has just ended. I'm requesting a formal closure from someone uninvolved in the discussion and who hasn't been majorly involved in the discussions at ] as we're keen as a project to potentially implement the proposal, or work on different changes if not implemented. Further details on the proposal can be found above the RfC. ] (]) 10:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
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:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Hi. An RfC on the wording of an article heading was opened at ] on 13 April, and it has had no additional input since 9 May. Could an uninvolved admin or editor drop by and close it, please? Thanks in advance. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{Initiated|19:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. ] (]) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:{{done}}. ] (]) 17:07, 25 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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Discussion is slowing significantly. Likely no consensus, personally. ] (]) 03:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*In my view, that discussion intersects with Trust & Safety and the current anti-harassment RFC to such a large extent that it should either be closed by Maggie Dennis personally, or by a panel that includes her, or by an independent community member who has received her feedback prior to closing.—] <small>]/]</small> 10:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*:T&S has no mandate to set community policy. The board can set their own policies that override community ones, but seem to have no intention on setting policies on multiple and/or privacy accounts. That specific discussion is a community process, so any suitably experienced volunteer should feel free to close it. ] (]) 11:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*::Don't really agree with that: I think that the whole point of (legitimate) undisclosed alternate accounts is to avoid harassment.—] <small>]/]</small> 13:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*:::Right, and various policies and proposals try to do the same. They're almost all community policies, made and enforced. This is the same; it's an issue about amending a community policy, discussed by volunteers, and should be closed by any suitable community member, the same as any other discussion. If the WMF wants to setup a Board policy on this and thinks the community's views will be helpful, they could read the discussion or the summary of the consensus reached (ie, 'the close'). ] (]) 12:19, 25 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Option 2 was very clearly rejected. The closer should try to see what specific principles people in the discussion agreed upon if going with a no consensus close, because there should be a follow-up RfC after some of the details are hammered out. <span class="nowrap">] (]) <small>(please ] me on reply)</small></span> 03:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::{{yo|Compassionate727}} Still working on this? — ] <sub>]</sub> 17:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Uninvolved editor needed please. Thanks. --] (]) 22:30, 15 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Ugh… in practice, no. I'm still willing to do it, but it's in hiatus because of the three(!) pending challenges of my closures at AN, while I evaluate to what extent I need to change how I approach closures. If somebody else wants to take over this, they should feel free. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—] <sup>(]·])</sup></span> 22:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Taking a pause is fair. Just wanted to double check. — ] <sub>]</sub> 00:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:asking for an update if possible. I think this RFC and previous RFCBEFORE convos were several TOMATS long at this point, so I get that this might take time. ] (]) 16:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:Now ]. An uninvolved closer is still requested. — ] <sub>]</sub> 21:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|22:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Quite an old merger discussion, that could to with an uninvolved close. Thanks. ] ] 08:38, 25 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|25 September 2024}} Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:I think it would be better to leave that discussion be. There is no consensus one way or the other. I could close it as "no consensus," but I think it would be better to just leave it so that if there's ever anyone else who has a thought on the matter, they can comment in that discussion instead of needing to open a new one. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—] <sup>(]·])</sup></span> 14:15, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|25 November 2024}} I request that Admins address this discussion that has been going around in circles for more than a month with no clear resolution. There is a consensus that the current article title is wrong but myriad inconclusive ideas on a solution. This is a second request for Admin help and little was accomplished the first time except false accusations. ---<span style="font-family: Calibri">]<small> (]|]) </small></span> 17:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|11:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)}} Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. ] (] • ]) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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(Initiated 17 days ago on 13 December 2024) challenge of close at AN was archived nableezy - 05:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 15 days ago on 15 December 2024) voorts (talk/contributions) 00:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 83 days ago on 7 October 2024) Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 63 days ago on 28 October 2024) Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This is a contentious topic and subject to general sanctions. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Archived. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. 22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
RfC: History section, adding native American and Australian genocides as examples
(Initiated 54 days ago on 6 November 2024) RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. Bogazicili (talk) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 50 days ago on 10 November 2024) Discussion is slowing significantly. Likely no consensus, personally. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 03:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Option 2 was very clearly rejected. The closer should try to see what specific principles people in the discussion agreed upon if going with a no consensus close, because there should be a follow-up RfC after some of the details are hammered out. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 03:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Doing... —Compassionate727 13:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Compassionate727: Still working on this? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ugh… in practice, no. I'm still willing to do it, but it's in hiatus because of the three(!) pending challenges of my closures at AN, while I evaluate to what extent I need to change how I approach closures. If somebody else wants to take over this, they should feel free. —Compassionate727 22:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Taking a pause is fair. Just wanted to double check. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 00:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ugh… in practice, no. I'm still willing to do it, but it's in hiatus because of the three(!) pending challenges of my closures at AN, while I evaluate to what extent I need to change how I approach closures. If somebody else wants to take over this, they should feel free. —Compassionate727 22:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Compassionate727: Still working on this? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- asking for an update if possible. I think this RFC and previous RFCBEFORE convos were several TOMATS long at this point, so I get that this might take time. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Doing... Aaron Liu (talk) 22:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 461#RfC: Check Your Fact
(Initiated 47 days ago on 13 November 2024) RfC has elapsed, and uninvolved closure is requested. — Red-tailed sock (Red-tailed hawk's nest) 15:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Now archived. An uninvolved closer is still requested. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 21:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:List of fictional countries set on Earth#RfC on threshold for inclusion
(Initiated 40 days ago on 20 November 2024) TompaDompa (talk) 17:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Israel#RfC
(Initiated 37 days ago on 22 November 2024) Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. TarnishedPath 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: Ongoing discussion, please wait a week or two. Bogazicili (talk) 14:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Matt Gaetz#RFC: Accusations of child sex trafficking and statutory rape in the lead
(Initiated 32 days ago on 28 November 2024) Legobot has removed the RFC tag and the last comment was a couple of days ago. Can we please get a independent close. TarnishedPath 10:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Death of Mahsa Amini#RFC: Referring to Masha Amini as Kurdish-Iranian in the lead
(Initiated 31 days ago on 29 November 2024) Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Last comment was a couple of days ago. Can we get an independent close please. TarnishedPath 11:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Elon Musk#RfC: Mentioning Oligarch Characterization in Lead
(Initiated 4 days ago on 26 December 2024) Support vs Oppose is currently 7 to 14, consensus seems to have been reached and the discussion is heading towards dead-horse-beating territory. Big Thumpus (talk) 14:43, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- give it more time. Usually need longer than just 4 days since RFC start, unless it is clearly overwhelming support (see WP:SNOW). Bluethricecreamman (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not a good idea to close this yet by the sounds of it, based on WP:UPHILLBATTLE. CNC (talk) 19:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 45 days ago on 15 November 2024) Bluethricecreamman (talk) 19:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 61 days ago on 30 October 2024) * Pppery * it has begun... 20:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 32 days ago on 27 November 2024) * Pppery * it has begun... 20:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 27 days ago on 2 December 2024) * Pppery * it has begun... 20:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 25 days ago on 5 December 2024) If there is consensus to do one of the history splitting operations but the closer needs help implementing it I would be willing to oblige. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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Other types of closing requests
Talk:Arab migrations to the Levant#Merger Proposal
(Initiated 96 days ago on 25 September 2024) Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. Andre🚐 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Donald Trump#Proposal: Age and health concerns regarding Trump
(Initiated 75 days ago on 16 October 2024) Experienced closer requested. ―Mandruss ☎ 13:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Tesla Cybercab#Proposed merge of Tesla Network into Tesla Cybercab
(Initiated 73 days ago on 18 October 2024) This needs formal closure by someone uninvolved. N2e (talk) 03:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would be better to leave that discussion be. There is no consensus one way or the other. I could close it as "no consensus," but I think it would be better to just leave it so that if there's ever anyone else who has a thought on the matter, they can comment in that discussion instead of needing to open a new one. —Compassionate727 14:15, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Winter fuel payment abolition backlash#Merge proposal
(Initiated 62 days ago on 29 October 2024) There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. PamD 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Stadion Miejski (Białystok)#Requested move 5 November 2024
(Initiated 54 days ago on 5 November 2024) RM that has been open for over a month. Natg 19 (talk) 02:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Expectation of privacy (United States)#Requested move 25 November 2024
(Initiated 35 days ago on 25 November 2024) I request that Admins address this discussion that has been going around in circles for more than a month with no clear resolution. There is a consensus that the current article title is wrong but myriad inconclusive ideas on a solution. This is a second request for Admin help and little was accomplished the first time except false accusations. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 17:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Shiv Sena#Merge proposal
(Initiated 33 days ago on 27 November 2024) Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Super two#Proposed merge
(Initiated 23 days ago on 6 December 2024) Has been open for nearly a month, I have !voted here so requesting an uninvolved closure. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)