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Long overdue, but probably a good idea to formally close this RfC given the subject area. The subject of the RfC was whether or not to include information about the ] in this article. --] (]) 21:06, 18 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|19:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)}} There's been a lot of contention over the cricket notability guidelines, with large numbers of AfDs recently causing much discussion within the project and outside of the project, and the RfC period has just ended. I'm requesting a formal closure from someone uninvolved in the discussion and who hasn't been majorly involved in the discussions at ] as we're keen as a project to potentially implement the proposal, or work on different changes if not implemented. Further details on the proposal can be found above the RfC. ] (]) 10:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
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{{Initiated|11:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)}} Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Hi. An RfC on the wording of an article heading was opened at ] on 13 April, and it has had no additional input since 9 May. Could an uninvolved admin or editor drop by and close it, please? Thanks in advance. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{Initiated|19:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. ] (]) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*In my view, that discussion intersects with Trust & Safety and the current anti-harassment RFC to such a large extent that it should either be closed by Maggie Dennis personally, or by a panel that includes her, or by an independent community member who has received her feedback prior to closing.—] <small>]/]</small> 10:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*:T&S has no mandate to set community policy. The board can set their own policies that override community ones, but seem to have no intention on setting policies on multiple and/or privacy accounts. That specific discussion is a community process, so any suitably experienced volunteer should feel free to close it. ] (]) 11:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*::Don't really agree with that: I think that the whole point of (legitimate) undisclosed alternate accounts is to avoid harassment.—] <small>]/]</small> 13:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*:::Right, and various policies and proposals try to do the same. They're almost all community policies, made and enforced. This is the same; it's an issue about amending a community policy, discussed by volunteers, and should be closed by any suitable community member, the same as any other discussion. If the WMF wants to setup a Board policy on this and thinks the community's views will be helpful, they could read the discussion or the summary of the consensus reached (ie, 'the close'). ] (]) 12:19, 25 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
* {{not done}} I looked at this with a view to closing it. I don't think there is any issue with closing the RfC, personally. The RfC initiator said "I've not proposed specific wording, this is more about looking for consensus on the ideas, the wordsmiths can get in there and create the appropriate wording if such a consensus is reached". However, no consensus was reached about whether changes to the status quo are in fact desired, let alone what specific changes. I actually don't think a formal closure is beneficial; users are free to start a fresh discussion in future. If you still believe a formal closure is beneficial, please clarify what it will achieve? ] (]) 19:34, 25 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
*:@]: If there was no consensus, and frankly when I've read that discussion I do see a consensus even if it's not identical to one of the three options that first was offered, that can be a close. But this was a centrally notified discussion which a nice level of participation and consensus can be reached about an outcome even if policy change language would then need to be identified and workshopped. Considering that this is a longstanding policy a NC would be significant. A well worded and thoughtful close helps to give shape and structure to what next steps would be for interested editors. I would ask that you reconsider this idea that it is not a discussion that needs to be closed. Best, ] (]) 20:16, 25 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|22:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:{{a note}} Ongoing discussion, please wait a week or two. ] (]) 14:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|04:45, 28 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC tag and the last comment was a couple of days ago. Can we please get a independent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 10:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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(Initiated 89 days ago on 7 October 2024) Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 459#RFC_Jerusalem_Post
(Initiated 68 days ago on 28 October 2024) Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This is a contentious topic and subject to general sanctions. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Archived. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. 22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Genocide#RfC: History section, adding native American and Australian genocides as examples
(Initiated 59 days ago on 6 November 2024) RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. Bogazicili (talk) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RfC:_Al-Manar
(Initiated 50 days ago on 15 November 2024) Bluethricecreamman (talk) 19:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Team Seas#Re: the ocean pollution additions
(Initiated 50 days ago on 15 November 2024) Clear consensus that the proposed edit (and its amended version) violate WP:SYNTH. However, the owning editor is engaging in sealioning behavior, repeatedly arguing against the consensus and dismissing others' rationale as not fitting his personal definition of synthesis; and is persistently assuming bad-faith, including opening an ANI accusing another editor of WP:STONEWALLING. When finally challenged to give a direct quote from the source that supports the proposed edit, it was dismissed with "I provided the source, read it yourself" and then further accused that editor with bad-faith. The discussion is being driven into a ground by an editor who does not (nor wish to) understand consensus and can't be satisfied with any opposing argument supported by Misplaced Pages policy or guidelines. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 22:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:List of fictional countries set on Earth#RfC on threshold for inclusion
(Initiated 45 days ago on 20 November 2024) TompaDompa (talk) 17:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Israel#RfC
(Initiated 43 days ago on 22 November 2024) Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. TarnishedPath 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: Ongoing discussion, please wait a week or two. Bogazicili (talk) 14:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Matt Gaetz#RFC: Accusations of child sex trafficking and statutory rape in the lead
(Initiated 37 days ago on 28 November 2024) Legobot has removed the RFC tag and the last comment was a couple of days ago. Can we please get a independent close. TarnishedPath 10:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Death of Mahsa Amini#RFC: Referring to Masha Amini as Kurdish-Iranian in the lead
(Initiated 36 days ago on 29 November 2024) Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Last comment was a couple of days ago. Can we get an independent close please. TarnishedPath 11:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Zionism#RFC about a recently added claim about Zionism
(Initiated 35 days ago on 30 November 2024) The bot has removed the RFC notice. Can we get an independent close please. TarnishedPath 11:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done Chetsford (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thankyou. A very considered close. TarnishedPath 22:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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(Initiated 38 days ago on 27 November 2024) * Pppery * it has begun... 20:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 33 days ago on 2 December 2024) * Pppery * it has begun... 20:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 15 days ago on 20 December 2024) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 15 days ago on 20 December 2024) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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Other types of closing requests
Talk:Arab migrations to the Levant#Merger Proposal
(Initiated 102 days ago on 25 September 2024) Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. Andre🚐 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Donald Trump#Proposal: Age and health concerns regarding Trump
(Initiated 80 days ago on 16 October 2024) Experienced closer requested. ―Mandruss ☎ 13:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Tesla Cybercab#Proposed merge of Tesla Network into Tesla Cybercab
(Initiated 78 days ago on 18 October 2024) This needs formal closure by someone uninvolved. N2e (talk) 03:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would be better to leave that discussion be. There is no consensus one way or the other. I could close it as "no consensus," but I think it would be better to just leave it so that if there's ever anyone else who has a thought on the matter, they can comment in that discussion instead of needing to open a new one. —Compassionate727 14:15, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Winter fuel payment abolition backlash#Merge proposal
(Initiated 68 days ago on 29 October 2024) There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. PamD 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Stadion Miejski (Białystok)#Requested move 5 November 2024
(Initiated 60 days ago on 5 November 2024) RM that has been open for over a month. Natg 19 (talk) 02:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Israel–Hamas war#Survey
(Initiated 59 days ago on 7 November 2024) Looking for uninvolved close in CTOP please, only a few !votes in past month. I realise this doesn't require closing, but it is preferred in such case due to controversial nature of topic. CNC (talk) 10:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Shiv Sena#Merge proposal
(Initiated 38 days ago on 27 November 2024) Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)