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{{FAOL|Hebrew|he:ריצ'רד פריור}} |
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==More Content needed== |
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We need more content on him and his movies and performances. Specifically the movies done with Gene Wilder. |
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More content, comin' up! How about a brief summary of his short-lived children's show, Pryor's Place? ] |
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==One of the few African Americans in the Midwest?== |
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That may have been true in the 1840s, but certainly not after World War I. Now it is possible that Peoria was mostly white at that time, and perhaps that should be commented upon. |
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==Please== |
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Please somebody add his famous comment "When you're running down the street on fire, people get out of your way" |
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Richard Pryor performed with a sensitivity and openness seldom seen. Simply put - he was gifted. One only has to watch a few minutes of any one of his stand up appearances to understand his power as a performer and story teller. His comedic style was conversational. As an audience member, you felt as if he was speaking directly to you. You were a welcomed guest in the world of this imaginative performer who constantly pushed you to the edge and made you laugh at yourself. He took racial issues head on and taught us a little bit about ourselves while putting a smile on our face. He did this by simply telling us the truth. Although he abused himself with drugs and struggled to keep his personal life together, he never let up on giving all of himself to his fans. He will be missed. |
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John (Huge fan!) |
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--] 22:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC) |
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There has got to be something done with this page. He is one of the greatest commedians in our lifetime. |
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~n |
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==how do we know this?== |
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"On June 1, 1980, Pryor set himself on fire while free-basing cocaine. This was a suicide attempt, but at the time Pryor's manager tried to protect him by claiming that it was an accident." |
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How do we know it was a suicide attempt and not just an accident, did he admit this? --] 20:31, 29 May 2005 (UTC) |
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Pryor did later admit that he set himself on fire purposefully. |
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in the near future check into http:www.nonepryor.com a tribute site dedicated to the comic genius. made by a small web group based out of peoria. |
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The New Yorker article I cited mentions it as a suicide attempt.--] 17:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC) |
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== CNN reporting his death == |
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--] [[User_talk:Saucy_Intruder|(talk)]] 21:21, 10 December 2005 (UTC) |
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--] 22:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== NPR also reporting his death == |
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] is reporting his death, too, censoring the usage of the word ], but not of the word ]. |
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rip richard. a true comic. funny even as he died. his MS bits as he went were inspirational. .."Epidemic" means white people are dying from it. motherfaqqin genius. |
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-:)] 05:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== Richard Pryor's Roots == |
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http://www.progenealogists.com/pryor |
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== Rest In Peace, Brother Richard == |
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Richard Pryor was one of the greatest comedians who's ever lived. He had a style all his own. The world is a much darker place without him. As I watched his movies or listen to him when he was telling jokes, he had something called talent, but he also had spirit and for that I'll never forget him. |
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==Is it Lennox, Lenox, or Lenora?== |
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Looks like the answer is Lenora. It was originally Lenox, was changed to Lenora, then to Lennox and the page is locked. It needs to go back to Lenora. |
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== A fellow Peoria native remorses... == |
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Richard....your the baddest muthaf**ker thats ever lived, and in truth will never die thanks to your genius. |
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Condolences to his family and friends. |
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Noone in the near future will have as great an impact as you, and I thank you for your brutal honesty on society's misgivings, especially in your early days. |
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Everyone, please go out and buy any of Richards legitimate comedy albumns, cd's, dvd's etc. and sit back and listen to one of the worlds true comedians at his best. |
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Much love my friend.... Mez |
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"...I ain't dead yet, muthaf**kers" |
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-Richard Pryor |
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== Uh, f*ck no... == |
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(I would have said "hell", but this is Rich Pryor we're talking about here...) |
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:''Pryor was often ranked among the best stand-up comedians, but to most Americans did not get his full due because he was in reality an extreme reverse-racist.'' |
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This line, or at least the second part (which is total bullshit) has got to go when this page is unprotected. |
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How dare they speak ill of the dead. To the vandal that put this worthless line up, I say the same thing Richard Pryor would have said... "Fuck you, motherfucker!" -- ] 03:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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What is this reverse racist comment on the wikipedia site for Richard? You best correct that litte KKK comment! |
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That is the work of a vandal. I agree it needs to be removed PRIOR to locking up the page |
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] 02:45, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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DIDO |
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I agree, this is rediculous, did whoever wrote that idiotic and clearly fallacious comment take their head out of their own ass long enough in the eightees to even watch his stuff. He campainged against all forms of racsism later in his career, and most "reverse racsist" comments he made were in jest or, well, true. As a middle-class white male, I am thoroughly unnofended by the late Mister Pryor's material, and think it is actually quite hilarious. You should be too. ] 22:23, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== Dang it... == |
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First Rodney, now Richard. Which comedians gonna be next?!{{unsigned|TMFSG}} |
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], most likely. |
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] 03:30, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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Uh, ] went between them. |
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] |
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Oh yeah, forgot about Mitch. ] |
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:Yeah.. RIP ], too. Damn.. What next. I hope ] has been takin his vitamins and drinkin his red wine. Oh.. er.. Well,, hopefully the vitamins and the treadmill at least. I'm hopin for another twenty years of George. I'll admit to being mildly curious about what he'll say at 80. -:)] 03:20, 14 December 2005 (UTC) |
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==Birth name== |
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I just wanted to fix the birth name which (according to IMDB) is: |
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Richard Franklin Lennox Thomas Pryor III |
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] 03:43, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== external links == |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/arts/11pryor.html?ex=1291957200&en=ea88c61b92de25e6&ei=5090 |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/10/AR2005121001406.html |
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== vprotected == |
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This page was getting hit with alot of vandalism. We have a section on his death. Probably won't need to anything else for a bit anyway. --]<sup>]</sup> 05:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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"Add"?? |
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] 05:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== free-base or freebase == |
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I wanted to change it, but I'm not sure whether it is hyphenated or not. And the page is locked, obviously. ] 11:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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:Either form is considered acceptable use. (although the hyphenated form was more common in the 1980s). ]]] 12:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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Yesterday someone locked it after new information on Pryors death was announced. I don't blame he/she, it was important should have been kept safe.--] 16:41, 11 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== "because he was so controversial"? sounds racist to me. == |
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I'm pretty sure that regardless which standard one might choose to apply, this statement does not stand inclusion for posterity in Misplaced Pages: |
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"although he rarely got his due among white American audiences because he was so controversial." |
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from: |
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"Pryor was often ranked among the best stand-up comedians, although he rarely got his due among white American audiences because he was so controversial." |
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The first portion of the sentence stands all tests I can envision being applied, but after the first comma I fear it devolves a bit. |
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- justification of the usage of the word 'because' in that sentence? what is the causal relationship? is it known to numbers? is it perhaps full of bullspit? |
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--numbers on 'rarely'? |
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--numbers on 'rarely got his due'? |
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--justification for suggestion of causation of absence of "due" from "white American audiences" being due to him being "so controversial"? |
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--number of others, but i'm bored now so basta. |
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rip richard. don't take any guff from these faqqing swine. |
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-:)] 05:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC) |
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::I have changed the sentence in disupte, and I think it is now a fair observation and NPOV. However, I think that this entire artcile could use a clean-up tag, as I think it could be written much better. ] 20:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC) |
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:::Like your rewrite bit, but I'm wit ya on that, Allthesestars, re clean-up tag.-:)] 03:25, 14 December 2005 (UTC) |
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==See Also== |
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A "See Also" section may be useful, especially for people who had an influence/were influenced by Pryor, and other topics, that were not mentioned previously for the article. There seems to be plenty of notable articles that link to this, but are not mentioned in return. — ]] 08:24, 13 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== Justifiable? == |
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Pryor shattered many barriers for American stand-up comedians such as ], ], ], ], ], ], and others. |
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- prolly a safe bet to say he shattered, or at least was of the bunch that shattered, some barriers. presuming such: |
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-- justifiable to say that he shattered them for the list as it is stands currently? |
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-- to justify that, it seems that either: |
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---1- he would need to have known them and undertaken conscious action with them as motivating factors (not likely and not likely intended by the sentences creator), or |
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---2- those that are listed would need be plainly connectable in some way with the particular barriers which he is being suggested to have played a role in shattering. |
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----i presume #1 doesn't apply, and i submit that not all of those listed are justifiable #2 realms. rock and chappelle, almost surely. murphy, maybe. robin navigated his own currents. letterman, i'd be curious to hear the defense of his inclusion. arsenio did stand up? sorry, couldn't resist. think i recall he did somee good race stuff, but can't recall hearing anything that would justify attributing his being able to "go there" artistically speaking to richard pryor. he pushed other envelopes, and the groundswell of other flows in our culture would surely have led via paved road to his ability to say anything he said by that time he said it. |
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----anyhoo,, i might adjust this part of the sentence tomorrow, or maybe next week. -] 03:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC) |
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:I think you're right that the list is inadequate and probably not entirely justified. But you're even more right than that: the list shouldn't even be there. There's no way we could approach a complete list of comedians who address race and racism, subjects for comedy that Pryor played a major role in popularizing. I find that inadequate lists are unnecessary, usually POV, and are just sources of more contention. I'm taking this one out. |
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:Moreover - with less conviction, I admit - I'm taking out the idea that Pryor shattered barriers, at least until it has some justification. There's no doubt that Richard Pryor popularized race and racism as suitable subjects for comedy, but he was not the first to make money cracking jokes about them by any means. At least the statement needs to be qualified, e.g. "Pryor was the first...for television" (if this was the case - I don't know) ] » ] 07:06, 14 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== Sept. '67 "epiphany" - two issues == |
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''He..looked at the sold-out crowd, said over the ] ''"What the fuck am I doing here!?"'', and walked off the stage. Afterward, Pryor began working at least mild ] into his act...'' |
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This passage seems to imply that the moment on stage in Sept. '67 precipitated Pryor's penchant for profanities. How? Did he, leaving the stage, hear the audience slapping knees and splitting bellies? It's unclear. |
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Additionally, the article only later describes this moment as a breakdown. Of course, it seems natural from just what's written above that the "epiphany" might have an instance of ], but again, this is unclear. |
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Unfortunately, I haven't read the autobiography so I can't fix these problems. ] » ] 06:42, 14 December 2005 (UTC) |
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:I haven't read his autiobio either (unfortunately)... I was going by excerpted information on the liner notes either of his two recent Rhino anthologies (both of which I posted to Wiki) when I contributed to the article. --] 07:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== Revision needed by one of the Principal Authors == |
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I would strongly encourage one of the principal authors to revise the last paragraph of the Personal section, wherein his children are merely listed out. |
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First take a look at the '''Muhammed Ali''' article. There is a wonderful table which details what kid belongs to which relationship/wife, the years they were together/married in sequence, etc. It is would make a wonderful addition to this article. |
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I don't know enough about him to do it myself. ] 23:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC) |
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== Spelling correction == |
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Changed "attackted" in the last sentence of "Early Life" to "attacked". |
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==Whoopi Goldberg quote== |
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I couldn't figure out how to add a reference for the Whoopi quote I added in the first section. She said it on the television program "Dawn French's Girls Who Do Comedy", which aired on the BBC in October of 2006. ] 17:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Crack and Pryor == |
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This article makes no reference to Pryor's alleged crack abuse. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 07:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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==You Tube== |
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Subjective assessment of the "quality" isn't a reason to delete this link. It's an on-set interview, not a Bertolucci trailer. As it is owned by a company--which uploaded it to you Tube via the director's program, which has a higher copyright verification standard than the general YT ToS, there is more than good reason to believe that it is certainly not a knowing infringement.-] 17:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== YouTube link == |
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== Learned to read in 1977? == |
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* It is poor quality |
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* The copyright status is unclear (although the uploader has a "director account" that does not mean he was personally involved, and if he was, that he has rights to upload and distribute the content) |
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* It does not add appear to me to anything encyclopaedic to the article |
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* "Buddyhead.com presents: Richard Pryor loaded on cocaine" does not give the appearance of an encyclopoaedically neutral source. |
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* Buddyhead seems to flag their own work with "Buddyhead ''interviews''" not ''presents''. |
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There does not appear to have been much discussion of this link, only a lame edit war. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 17:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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The article says that Pam Grier taught him to read in 1977, but that seems unlikely as he was writing for multiple TV shows well before then. ] (]) 22:51, 29 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:"Poor quality" is subjective--I can say, in my opinion it has lo-fi charm. Read up on the Director's program--anything on it is really unlikely to be copyvio. There's no "reasonable doubt."-] 17:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:: So it should be trivially easy for you, as the editor seeking to include content, to demonstrate that it is copyright clean... <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 17:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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The article says that Pam Grier taught him to read in 1977, but that seems unlikely as he was writing for multiple TV shows well before then. 162.233.193.34 (talk) 22:51, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
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