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== Reptilians quotes == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2020 == |
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:As of 2003 the reptilian bloodline encompassed 43 American presidents, three British and two Canadian prime ministers, several Sumerian kings and Egyptian pharaohs, and a smattering of celebrities, including ], ] and ]. Key bloodlines are the ]s, ]s, various European aristocratic families, the establishment families of the Eastern United States, and the British ].<ref name=Barkun2003p104/> |
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In the introductory paragraph, the line "he visited a psychic who he said told him" should use "whom" not "who" ] (]) 21:21, 3 November 2020 (UTC) |
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The referenced page of Barkun2003 is and doesn't include any of those claims, nor could I find them in the rest of the chapter on Icke. Unfortunately, SlimVirgin isn't alive any more so I can't ask her. I don't want to simply delete as unfounded the work of a very experienced editor, but this needs fixing. |
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:I'm 50-50 on this. The sentence reads clearly as it is, and whom is rather formal.07:14, 4 November 2020 (UTC) |
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::The diff you added only shows SV re-arranging the material. It appears to have been added much earlier. Looking back a little farther, say , there's a much more detailed reference that breaks down the sources. Not clear if that covers every claim, but more ground to cover at least. ] ] 13:42, 13 June 2021 (UTC) |
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:::I've never been able to find a single reliable source for the claim that Icke believes in this farcical "Reptilian" theory. I'm 99% sure it's simply a smear tactic used against him to put people off listening to the other (very legitimate) subjects he speaks about. A bunch of links to articles in far left rags claiming that he said this or that (with zero sources) isn't worthy of mentioning in an encyclopedia, nor does it make the claims true. All of these smears and falsified "beliefs" that have been pinned on him should be entirely removed from the article.<!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> |
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::::There seem to be thousands, including his own publications and many interviews where he promotes these claims. This includes many conservative outlets. I'm sorry, but since your claim appears to make zero sense on its face, perhaps you can clarify your position first? Are you saying he's being sarcastic the whole way through? ] ] 01:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC) |
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::::@82.2.204.195 For some reason I can’t reply to the IP address directly, but in this interview<nowiki/>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlAjeTunopo he says that at 4:00. Note that Icke essentially replies that “The phrase ‘The world is run by shapeshifting lizards’ is a one line oversimplification without my backstory or context, if you read deeper into it and into my works you will understand it better.” but upon further examination it remains equally as false and baseless with no real or valid evidence. This isn’t a smear, those claims are real. |
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::::Also note that the interviewer and others say that some of Icke’s other claims in the video are based on events that have actually happened so at least those theories and claims have got that going for them, that being they are based in part on reality, but the claim “Buckingham palace and the world is run by shapeshifting lizards and reptiles” is one he appears to genuinely agree with and has touted for years ] (]) 02:40, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Lanashire Post puff piece == |
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== Footnote 8 == |
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is used as a source in our article, albeit for Icke's own views. I'm a bit concerned, though, about its reliability. It describes Icke as "an investigative journalist", calls the way this Misplaced Pages page has been edited "censorship" and generally seems like a promotional piece . It is published in a local paper by a who appears to have no particular qualification to write about this sensitive topic. Thoughts? ] (]) 15:46, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:"calls the way this Misplaced Pages page has been edited "censorship"", it does?] (]) 15:56, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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::Re-reading, maybe not although it kind of implies it. Here's the relevant bits: {{tq|Icke has battled with countless naysayers over the years, but one prominent challenger today is online global encyclopaedia Misplaced Pages – the go-to-source of information for many with 18 billion visits per month. Icke says the website is notoriously anti-“conspiracy theories”. On Misplaced Pages, there is a line reading "critics have accused Icke of being a Holocaust denier" in the intro section of his page, despite repeated protestations from his son, Gareth, who claims to have been threatened with a ban from moderating on the website if he manually removed the line anymore himself... The “Holocaust denier” slur was repeated in the first paragraph of one newspaper article last month... Despite Icke’s growing popularity across the world, he continues to be condemned. He says the main difference from the 1990s is the condemnation has evolved into censorship-by-stealth in some quarters. He says: “The mainstream media has completely shut me out. It’s an interesting change as they used to delight in ridiculing me.” Icke says the censorship also manifests itself in the form of venues where he is due to speak cancelling at the 11th hour.}} ] (]) 17:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:::"Ike says", so it's not them, it's him.] (]) 17:52, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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the article linked at footnote 8 does not say that his publisher dropped him or why. ] (]) 00:02, 24 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== Proposal for a personal life section == |
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== Reptilian shapeshifters == |
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It is common in BLPs for a personal life section to be placed near the end of the article with marriages etc. I won't monitor this page but am putting forward the suggestion. ] (]) 13:31, 3 January 2021 (UTC) |
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reptilian shapeshifters is linked to the wiki article on reptiles and there is no reference there to reptilian shapeshifters. ] (]) 00:04, 24 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== New article: Brian Rose == |
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An article for an associate of Icke's, ], has been created. I thought editors here might be interested and help to improve it. ] (]) 10:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} I broke it into two wikilinks. One to ] and the other to ]. ] (]) 23:11, 10 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== his new book not in the selected works == |
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can someone update the "selected works" ] (]) 22:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:As of 2003 the reptilian bloodline encompassed 43 American presidents, three British and two Canadian prime ministers, several Sumerian kings and Egyptian pharaohs, and a smattering of celebrities, including ], ] and ]. Key bloodlines are the ]s, ]s, various European aristocratic families, the establishment families of the Eastern United States, and the British ].<ref name=Barkun2003p104/> |
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:{{cn}} ] (]) 23:05, 10 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} ] (]) 09:54, 17 November 2023 (UTC) |
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The referenced page of Barkun2003 is and doesn't include any of those claims, nor could I find them in the rest of the chapter on Icke. Unfortunately, SlimVirgin isn't alive any more so I can't ask her. I don't want to simply delete as unfounded the work of a very experienced editor, but this needs fixing. |
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::The diff you added only shows SV re-arranging the material. It appears to have been added much earlier. Looking back a little farther, say , there's a much more detailed reference that breaks down the sources. Not clear if that covers every claim, but more ground to cover at least. ] ] 13:42, 13 June 2021 (UTC) |
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==Short description== |
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The Short description generally follows the basic information contained in the lead of the article. He is not much known as a footballer. Icke seems to be best known as a conspiracy theorist. This article starts {{TQ|David Vaughan Icke (...) is an English conspiracy theorist and ...}} so a Short description of {{TQ|English conspiracy theorist (born 1952)}} is reasonable. — ] <sup>]</sup> 11:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
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DI is not interested in change. All he's interested in is making money, by selling books and giving speeches. Any mention of actually doing something will result in you being banned from his site. Yeah, I have no proof. How could I? Try it yourself, but then others won't accept your proof right? Simply post on his site anything about actully doing something to bring about change and you'll get instantly banned. He's like thousands of others that might as well be working for the other side, because they make anyone who might otherwise wake up and smell the dung heap lump those that actually want change in with him, in the the loony reptilian alien etc pigeon hole. Some people actually want to fix the world, he is not one of them. |
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:Agree. ] (]) 11:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::Also agree, he never hit the big time as a footballer, was somewhat more successful as a BBC sports presenter, and then really hit the big time with his alternative (cough cough) theories.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 11:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::yup ] (]) 15:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Note as this was started today, at least give it until tomorrow to decide if there is a consensus. ] (]) 14:46, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
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* No disagreement. Restored to {{TQ|English conspiracy theorist (born 1952)}} — ] <sup>]</sup> 20:12, 7 September 2024 (UTC) |
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* Agree per points mentioned above. He is primarily known as a conspiracy theorist. ] (]) 00:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC) |
The Short description generally follows the basic information contained in the lead of the article. He is not much known as a footballer. Icke seems to be best known as a conspiracy theorist. This article starts David Vaughan Icke (...) is an English conspiracy theorist and ...
so a Short description of English conspiracy theorist (born 1952)
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Done I broke it into two wikilinks. One to Reptile and the other to Shapeshifting. Cullen328 (talk) 23:11, 10 November 2023 (UTC)