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The Game has previously been deleted from Misplaced Pages because it was not previously verifiable. However, The Game has now been published on its own web site, http://ilostthegame.org. Does this web site dedicated to The Game suffice? ] 03:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | The Game has previously been deleted from Misplaced Pages because it was not previously verifiable. However, The Game has now been published on its own web site, http://ilostthegame.org. Does this web site dedicated to The Game suffice? ] 03:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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* Published author listed on Amazon with two books, deleted within 10 minutes of its creation even though two editors were developing it. ] 21:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | * Published author listed on Amazon with two books, deleted within 10 minutes of its creation even though two editors were developing it. ] 21:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Endorse A7''' Valid, if awful fast, A7 deletion. I'd be willing to userfy to your space if that would close this. The original posting was obviously a ] problem, given the name of the creator. Your edit probably looked like a wikification edit. ] 21:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Endorse A7''' Valid, if awful fast, A7 deletion. I'd be willing to userfy to your space if that would close this. The original posting was obviously a ] problem, given the name of the creator. Your edit probably looked like a wikification edit. ] 21:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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How many times do I have to tell you, he IS TOO notable! I mean, he is signed to ] as well as ] (] isn't part of Interscope, yet you have a page on him}, his single ], charted on the ] charts (Top R&B/Hip-Hop), and if you google him, there are several notable sources. '''Undelete''', but if that's not possible, '''Unprotect''', so someone with better info can recreate it. ] 20:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | How many times do I have to tell you, he IS TOO notable! I mean, he is signed to ] as well as ] (] isn't part of Interscope, yet you have a page on him}, his single ], charted on the ] charts (Top R&B/Hip-Hop), and if you google him, there are several notable sources. '''Undelete''', but if that's not possible, '''Unprotect''', so someone with better info can recreate it. ] 20:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
:'''Endorse deletion and salting'''. I don't see evidence here that he meets ], and it doesn't appear that "Be Easy" charted (''Billboard''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Web site does not show him having any charting singles or albums). And Mr. Danson, watch your tone. | ] <small>]</small> 20:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | :'''Endorse deletion and salting'''. I don't see evidence here that he meets ], and it doesn't appear that "Be Easy" charted (''Billboard''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s Web site does not show him having any charting singles or albums). And Mr. Danson, watch your tone. | ] <small>]</small> 20:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Comment''': According to the very last version of the article, "His debut album ... is scheduled to be released. ... The first single of the album is called "Be Easy" and features ]." There's not a single assertion of notability in the article. What I also find remarkable is that version uses itself as a reference, while citing it as AOL Music. And a final thing: according to the AfD'd version, Young Hot Rod was born in Sacramento. According to the final version he was born in Phoenix. Which is it? ]]<sup>]</sup> 20:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Comment''': According to the very last version of the article, "His debut album ... is scheduled to be released. ... The first single of the album is called "Be Easy" and features ]." There's not a single assertion of notability in the article. What I also find remarkable is that version uses itself as a reference, while citing it as AOL Music. And a final thing: according to the AfD'd version, Young Hot Rod was born in Sacramento. According to the final version he was born in Phoenix. Which is it? ]]<sup>]</sup> 20:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep protected''' and come back after '''writing in userspace'''. The AFD was properly closed. Between the two article's logs ( and ), I see a half dozen deletions of recreated content to start from a favorable assumption about what will happen to a blank page. So, go write a reliably sourced (and cited!) article at a user ], then bring it here for review. I recommend applying the ] method of writing. ] 20:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Keep protected''' and come back after '''writing in userspace'''. The AFD was properly closed. Between the two article's logs ( and ), I see a half dozen deletions of recreated content to start from a favorable assumption about what will happen to a blank page. So, go write a reliably sourced (and cited!) article at a user ], then bring it here for review. I recommend applying the ] method of writing. ] 20:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
* '''Endorse deletion''', valid AfD. Tom, you only have to tell us ''once'' that he "is too notable", but you have to bring reliable sources. Nothing else actually matters much: no sources, no article. Try that in userspace. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 21:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | * '''Endorse deletion''', valid AfD. Tom, you only have to tell us ''once'' that he "is too notable", but you have to bring reliable sources. Nothing else actually matters much: no sources, no article. Try that in userspace. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 21:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*Here's three independent sources: , probably more info on his website. I can write a stub in userspace if that is still necessary. ] 21:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Alela Diane is an up-and-coming artist of renown, for whom at some point soon there will clearly need to be an article. She is already cross referenced in the ] and ] articles. She currently has 47,000 Google hits (up from 45K yesterday), is touring in the US, and shortly in the UK. She has an All Music Guide entry. I suspect that one factor in the summary deletion of the article may have been the references to her early work being self-published. However, her album has now been issued internationally to widespread acclaim, as evidenced by a simple Google search which will show numerous positive reviews, establishing her importance as a singer-songwriter. Information should be made available on this current artist who is in the process of becoming one of international renown. ] 13:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | Alela Diane is an up-and-coming artist of renown, for whom at some point soon there will clearly need to be an article. She is already cross referenced in the ] and ] articles. She currently has 47,000 Google hits (up from 45K yesterday), is touring in the US, and shortly in the UK. She has an All Music Guide entry. I suspect that one factor in the summary deletion of the article may have been the references to her early work being self-published. However, her album has now been issued internationally to widespread acclaim, as evidenced by a simple Google search which will show numerous positive reviews, establishing her importance as a singer-songwriter. Information should be made available on this current artist who is in the process of becoming one of international renown. ] 13:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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*****And the touring? --] <small>]</small> 14:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | *****And the touring? --] <small>]</small> 14:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
******What touring? ]|] 00:28, 28 January 2007 (UTC) | ******What touring? ]|] 00:28, 28 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*******This - ] 11:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Comment''' I have revised the original article to include more evidence of notability and placed it for the time being at ]. The suggestion made earlier that her album has not been released in the UK is incorrect; it is available at Amazon.co.uk (not as an import), as is her more recent vinyl release. I'd be grateful to be kept informed of the process from now on, as luckily this question of notability has not arisen with any of my previous articles. ] 11:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Comment''' I have revised the original article to include more evidence of notability and placed it for the time being at ]. The suggestion made earlier that her album has not been released in the UK is incorrect; it is available at Amazon.co.uk (not as an import), as is her more recent vinyl release. I'd be grateful to be kept informed of the process from now on, as luckily this question of notability has not arisen with any of my previous articles. ] 11:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
** Correction - it is an import to UK, but readily available. Incidentally, the criterion of being released by a "major label" or even an "important indie" is surely an anachronism in this era of downloads, when (in UK at least) musicians can make the charts through downloads alone without being signed to any label ... ? (Not for this forum, I know...).] 14:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | ** Correction - it is an import to UK, but readily available. Incidentally, the criterion of being released by a "major label" or even an "important indie" is surely an anachronism in this era of downloads, when (in UK at least) musicians can make the charts through downloads alone without being signed to any label ... ? (Not for this forum, I know...).] 14:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''undelete''' I dont think there was the intent to be unfair, but it seems to have turned out that way.''']''' 06:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
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* I would like to ask that the people who based their "endorse deletion" !votes on it not being a plausible misspelling be discounted, because they are continually repeating proven-incorrect assumptions about how the name is properly pronounced, and have not responded when challenged. This is not a vote. --](]]) 14:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC) In other words, OF COURSE "Assburger" isn't a plausible misspelling of "az-PAIR-gher" - which is immaterial because "Asperger" isn't pronounced "az-PAIR-gher". | |||
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I think there is substantial evidence that this exists as an innocent misspelling, and the presence of a so-called "bad word" should not have automatically caused it to be seen as disparaging and used as a reason to delete the redirect. ] 13:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | I think there is substantial evidence that this exists as an innocent misspelling, and the presence of a so-called "bad word" should not have automatically caused it to be seen as disparaging and used as a reason to delete the redirect. ] 13:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
P.S. I think the controversy at ] is grounds for a '''speedy relist''' at the very least. —]<small>2007-01-26 13:44 ]] (01/26 08:44 EST)</small> | P.S. I think the controversy at ] is grounds for a '''speedy relist''' at the very least. —]<small>2007-01-26 13:44 ]] (01/26 08:44 EST)</small> | ||
*<small>''There is a related deletion discussion at ]''</small> | *<small>''There is a related deletion discussion at ]''</small> | ||
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**'''Comment:''' Further down the aspergers talk page i have also put on a section on pronounciation. Here in the UK, it is common to use a soft g and it is pronounced officially like this. I say it has and indistinguishable p or b sound. ] 17:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | **'''Comment:''' Further down the aspergers talk page i have also put on a section on pronounciation. Here in the UK, it is common to use a soft g and it is pronounced officially like this. I say it has and indistinguishable p or b sound. ] 17:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
* I really hate to say this, but '''Restore'''. For someone who casually hears the term and does not know the correct spelling, this is actually a pretty likely guess. As a likely vandalism target, it might be a good idea to protect the redirect. ] 15:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | * I really hate to say this, but '''Restore'''. For someone who casually hears the term and does not know the correct spelling, this is actually a pretty likely guess. As a likely vandalism target, it might be a good idea to protect the redirect. ] 15:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep deleted''', nothing but a puerile joke. ] 15:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Keep deleted''', nothing but a puerile joke. ] 15:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
**'''Comment''' I don't think the motive behind its creation is particularly relevant, only whether the end result improves the encyclopedia. —]<small>2007-01-25 16:30 ]] (01/25 11:30 EST)</small> | **'''Comment''' I don't think the motive behind its creation is particularly relevant, only whether the end result improves the encyclopedia. —]<small>2007-01-25 16:30 ]] (01/25 11:30 EST)</small> | ||
*'''Protect the redirect''', but restore as a likely misspelling. This is exactly how it is pronounced. -] <small>]</small> 15:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Protect the redirect''', but restore as a likely misspelling. This is exactly how it is pronounced. -] <small>]</small> 15:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Endorse deletion''' According to US dictionary sites (Merriam-Webster) (American National Heritage), the correct pronounciation is As-perger's (hard p not b, and hard g) not "Assburgers". Wikitionary's (possibly unreliable) entry has a UK pronunciation which is the same but with a soft g (this UK Asperger's Syndrome site suggests "Ass-pairghers" (hard g)). I don't see the need for Misplaced Pages to cater and coddle for every kind of misspelling and mispronunciation out there ("Assburger Sindroam", "Bifpairgher") - we already assume that users are able to handle a computer keyboard/mouse and an internet interface. ] 16:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Endorse deletion''' According to US dictionary sites (Merriam-Webster) (American National Heritage), the correct pronounciation is As-perger's (hard p not b, and hard g) not "Assburgers". Wikitionary's (possibly unreliable) entry has a UK pronunciation which is the same but with a soft g (this UK Asperger's Syndrome site suggests "Ass-pairghers" (hard g)). I don't see the need for Misplaced Pages to cater and coddle for every kind of misspelling and mispronunciation out there ("Assburger Sindroam", "Bifpairgher") - we already assume that users are able to handle a computer keyboard/mouse and an internet interface. ] 16:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
**'''Comment''' Unlike syndrome, Asperger is not a familiar word. Also, /p/ and /b/ are identical in most dialects when placed after an /s/. I'm not sure why you noted the hard g, since that's also present in the pronunciation of the redirect. And, anyway, it's not a mispronunciation because they are pronounced the same, and it's not just any misspelling, it's the only spelling that consists of common english words whose pronunciation EXACTLY match the proper pronunciation --]<small>2007-01-25 17:01 ]] (01/25 12:01 EST)</small> | **'''Comment''' Unlike syndrome, Asperger is not a familiar word. Also, {{IPA|/p/}} and {{IPA|/b/}} are identical in most dialects when placed after an {{IPA|/s/}}. I'm not sure why you noted the hard g, since that's also present in the pronunciation of the redirect. And, anyway, it's not a mispronunciation because they are pronounced the same, and it's not just any misspelling, it's the only spelling that consists of common english words whose pronunciation EXACTLY match the proper pronunciation --]<small>2007-01-25 17:01 ]] (01/25 12:01 EST)</small> | ||
***'''Comment''' I would say less than 10% of the people I know are careful enough in their diction that one could easily hear the difference between "aspbergers" properly pronounced and "assburgers". How it should be pronounced, and how it commonly is, are two different things. ] 18:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ***'''Comment''' I would say less than 10% of the people I know are careful enough in their diction that one could easily hear the difference between "aspbergers" properly pronounced and "assburgers". How it should be pronounced, and how it commonly is, are two different things. ] 18:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Comment from deleting admin'''. I speedied this as a clear attack page. Common sense should tell any user that "Assburger" isn't right, and I don't think Misplaced Pages should include anything that appears to be making fun of mental illness. | ] <small>]</small> 16:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Comment from deleting admin'''. I speedied this as a clear attack page. Common sense should tell any user that "Assburger" isn't right, and I don't think Misplaced Pages should include anything that appears to be making fun of mental illness. | ] <small>]</small> 16:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
**'''comment''': Common sense won't tell them what actual the proper spelling is, and they might figure that a ] for an unfamiliar word will have been created as a redirect. —]<small>2007-01-25 17:02 ]] (01/25 12:02 EST)</small> PS once I actually clicked the link it turns out "pronunciation spelling" is not the right term. Is it sufficiently clear, though, what I meant? (as for "appears to be making fun of mental illness"; I have this condition and I wasn't offended. As it happens, if anything I'm more offended by your use of the term "mental illness". But, of course, you don't have to believe me. —]<small>2007-01-25 17:05 ]] (01/25 12:05 EST)</small>) | **'''comment''': Common sense won't tell them what actual the proper spelling is, and they might figure that a ] for an unfamiliar word will have been created as a redirect. —]<small>2007-01-25 17:02 ]] (01/25 12:02 EST)</small> PS once I actually clicked the link it turns out "pronunciation spelling" is not the right term. Is it sufficiently clear, though, what I meant? (as for "appears to be making fun of mental illness"; I have this condition and I wasn't offended. As it happens, if anything I'm more offended by your use of the term "mental illness". But, of course, you don't have to believe me. —]<small>2007-01-25 17:05 ]] (01/25 12:05 EST)</small>) | ||
⚫ | * I have started a fairly similar discussion to this on the Aspergers talk page. See both ] and ]. ] 17:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
⚫ | *'''Endorse Deletion''' I don't think any reader with an ounce of common sense would spell anything phonically if it clearly appeared to be a nonsensical, compound slang word. The mere presence of this redirect insults the intelligence of any person that goes on Misplaced Pages. ] 18:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
⚫ | I have started a fairly similar discussion to this on the Aspergers talk page. See both ] and ]. ] 17:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
⚫ | *'''Endorse Deletion''' I don't think any reader with an ounce of common sense would spell anything phonically if it clearly appeared to be a nonsensical, compound slang word. The mere presence of this redirect insults the intelligence of any person that goes on Misplaced Pages. ] 18:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Endorse deletion'''. Yanksox said all that needed to be said, and if common sense was actually common then we wouldn't need even that. --]<sup>]</sup> 19:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Endorse deletion'''. Yanksox said all that needed to be said, and if common sense was actually common then we wouldn't need even that. --]<sup>]</sup> 19:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
**Common sense isn't that common. Even if someone knows "assburger" can't be right, they may well have no idea what the right spelling is. We still ought to make it possible for them to find the right page. ] 21:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
***That logic would lead to an indefinite number of redirects. We can help users who don't know the exact spelling of "Asperger's" without resorting to infantile jokes about the disorder. | ] <small>]</small> 22:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
****How? If someone heard a reference on TV to something that sounds like "assburger" (and I've heard what sounded like that pronunciation dozens of times), and they were curious to get information on it, how would they find the article? ] 23:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*****This is absurd. Any adult who thinks he heard "Assburger" would immediately think, "That's not right," and try other spellings It requires the tiniest sliver of common sense. Anyone over the age of 8 should be able to figure out that "Assburger" is NOT the name of a developmental disorder. | ] <small>]</small> 02:41, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
******But "should" does not translate to "will". For that matter, why would someone hearing it on the TV know it was a developmental disorder, and not just an insult? -] <small>]</small> 02:44, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*******Read my comments more carefully - I never said "should." I said "would." I don't find the idea that anyone over the age of eight would mis-hear it and not immediately self-correct to be even a tiny bit plausible. | ] <small>]</small> 17:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
******How would they know it's not a valid name? Not possible that it could be a real name? Many German names start in "Ass". Many end in "burger". It's really not that implausible. ] 03:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*******I've never heard of a German name starting with "ass", could you cite sources on the statement that "many" such names do? ] 11:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
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*'''Restore as redirect''' - It's definitely a likely misspelling. --] 19:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Restore as redirect''' - It's definitely a likely misspelling. --] 19:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Restore''' as redirect per Fan-1967. ] 05:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Restore''' as redirect per Fan-1967. ] 05:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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****Asperger isn't an English name. ] 16:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ****Asperger isn't an English name. ] 16:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*****I never said that it was. The point is that I don't know of an English term that incorporates an offensive word (really, an offensive term) in the way that "Assburger" does. And again, even the impression that we're making fun of people with a developmental disorder is something to avoid. | ] <small>]</small> 17:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | *****I never said that it was. The point is that I don't know of an English term that incorporates an offensive word (really, an offensive term) in the way that "Assburger" does. And again, even the impression that we're making fun of people with a developmental disorder is something to avoid. | ] <small>]</small> 17:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
******"even the impression ... is something to avoid" ] --](]]) 14:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
****** You assume that all people should know that no such name could possibly exist. I guess that they should likewise assume that there could be no such name as ] or ]? This is not about your being offended by the name. This is about people being able to find the article. ] 17:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ****** You assume that all people should know that no such name could possibly exist. I guess that they should likewise assume that there could be no such name as ] or ]? This is not about your being offended by the name. This is about people being able to find the article. ] 17:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
**** ]. ] 23:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | **** ]. ] 23:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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*'''Restore''' I can't understand the argument that this redirect should be deleted because it is a stupid phrase. I have a real hard time searching things that I don't know the specific name of on wikipedia and redirects are one of the better solutions where there is a similar sounding phrase that is a realistic search term. ] 12:57, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Restore''' I can't understand the argument that this redirect should be deleted because it is a stupid phrase. I have a real hard time searching things that I don't know the specific name of on wikipedia and redirects are one of the better solutions where there is a similar sounding phrase that is a realistic search term. ] 12:57, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Endorse Deletion''' a redirect that's not a likely spelling mistake and insensitive as well.-- ] <sup>]</sup> <sub>]</sub> 19:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Endorse Deletion''' a redirect that's not a likely spelling mistake and insensitive as well.-- ] <sup>]</sup> <sub>]</sub> 19:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Restore,''' and protect if wanted/necessary. I do think that there is probably a marginal possibility that one will mishear it, but it greatly outweighs any actual negative effects (which deletors have failed to point out.) ]]]<small>]</small> 03:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Endorse deletion''' - This "innocent misspelling" involves '''three''' sound changes, with the first one being the difference between a "z" sound and a soft "s" sound. I also have difficulty with the change of "e" to u", and while the "p" to "b" switch is plausible it none-the-less completes the transformation from of the name of a syndrome into an insult derived from it. IMO, if someone is that lost then they are best off going to ] and linking to the article from there while gleaning the correct spelling. I therefore fail to see how the process did not work in this case. IMO, a judgement call had to made on this one, and it was. --] | ] 02:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
**the so-called '"e" to "u"' is actually {{IPA|ə}} (no change), and the "s" is in the original pronunciation, I don't know WHERE you're getting "z" from. And someone having heard it in a conversation might not know it's a variant of autism. —]<small>2007-01-29 16:23 ]] (01/29 11:23 EST)</small> | |||
**Like he said. Where I live, an "s" is never pronounced like a "z", "bur" and "ber" are pronounced exactly the same way, and same with "sp" and "sb". -] <small>]</small> 02:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Endorse deletion'''. It's not a plausible spelling mistake. ] 04:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''endorse deletion''' essentially because I think that the case for deletion in the first place was a good one. ''']''' 06:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Endorse deletion''' Asperger's syndrome is not a joke, and the closing admin tok the right decision.--] 13:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
**I don't agree that the redirect is intended as a joke - it is a VERY plausible misspelling (NOT a mispronunciation. That list of sound changes it supposedly requires is patent nonsense. We're supposed to believe that it's "properly" pronounced with {{IPA|/zp/}}? I'd like to see a minimal pair of that with either {{IPA|/sp/}} or {{IPA|/zb/}}) --](]]) 13:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Comment.''' If it stays, will it really hurt anyone? I mean, can't we give it the ]? ]]]<small>]</small> 02:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Overturn closure''' and restore the redirect. This was clearly created in good faith both the first time () and as a redirect. It is a plausible misspelling based on phonetic transcription of the correct name and is exactly what redirects are designed for. To answer MrDarcy's concern above, we don't go randomly creating redirects for every possible misspelling but once one has been created in good faith, we keep them around. As the old saying goes, "redirects are cheap." Restoring the redirect would also be consistent with the emerging consensus at ]. ] <small>]</small> 20:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*<s>'''Comment'''. It doesn't matter how it's "properly" pronounced, if it's meant to be a redirect from a mispronunciation. What matters is how it ''is'' pronounced. Calling for people's opinions that it's a reasonable error to make to be discounted is weird. -] <small>]</small> 02:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)</s> | |||
**I'm the only one who's called for anyone's !votes to be discounted, and it's the ones who are saying that it's NOT a reasonable error who I think should be ignored, because THEY are making up random pronunciations to say how different this "mispronunciation" is from it and therefore implausible. {{IPA|/zp/}}, honestly? --](]]) 02:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
***Oopsies, I completely misread that. My point still holds, though; it doesn't ''matter'' what the correct pronunciation is. -] <small>]</small> 02:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
*I think I'd be comatose from reading this if'n for the language course. It's a hard "g" btw. ~ ] 07:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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**In this case, you certainly don't need the article. The issue is if there is new information here that wasn't considered or if it was closed incorrectly, not anything else. Unanimous decisions are pretty clear consensus, so that leaves new information. Nothing requires the article, regardless of what some people would like. -] <small>]</small> 01:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC) | **In this case, you certainly don't need the article. The issue is if there is new information here that wasn't considered or if it was closed incorrectly, not anything else. Unanimous decisions are pretty clear consensus, so that leaves new information. Nothing requires the article, regardless of what some people would like. -] <small>]</small> 01:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
***Don't be dismissive of ordinary users requests for notice, openness, fair process and access to information in AfDs and DRs. These are not trivial concerns. I am not weighing in on the merits here. At issue is "will editors work be destroyed in a manner that is not involved in edit disputes." Histories are removed. It is a "]-tutional" issue. I agree with the need for reasonable access. ] 18:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC) | ***Don't be dismissive of ordinary users requests for notice, openness, fair process and access to information in AfDs and DRs. These are not trivial concerns. I am not weighing in on the merits here. At issue is "will editors work be destroyed in a manner that is not involved in edit disputes." Histories are removed. It is a "]-tutional" issue. I agree with the need for reasonable access. ] 18:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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*'''Relist'''. The book and the major article (neither of which showed up ''at the AfD'') give the impression that it likely meets WP:WEB. More eyes at the AfD, and perhaps a clearer review of the book, would generate a consensus of more than 4 editors. --] <small>]</small> 00:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | *'''Relist'''. The book and the major article (neither of which showed up ''at the AfD'') give the impression that it likely meets WP:WEB. More eyes at the AfD, and perhaps a clearer review of the book, would generate a consensus of more than 4 editors. --] <small>]</small> 00:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC) |
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The Game has previously been deleted from Misplaced Pages because it was not previously verifiable. However, The Game has now been published on its own web site, http://ilostthegame.org. Does this web site dedicated to The Game suffice? Hamz01 03:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
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Liz Rettig – Userfied to requestor's sandbox – 23:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Young Hot Rod – Deletion endorsed, recreation in userspace recommended – trialsanderrors 07:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC) |
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How many times do I have to tell you, he IS TOO notable! I mean, he is signed to G-Unit Records as well as Interscope (Spider Loc isn't part of Interscope, yet you have a page on him}, his single Be Easy, charted on the Billboard charts (Top R&B/Hip-Hop), and if you google him, there are several notable sources. Undelete, but if that's not possible, Unprotect, so someone with better info can recreate it. Tom Danson 20:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Alela Diane – Overturned and listed at AfD – trialsanderrors 07:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC) |
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Alela Diane is an up-and-coming artist of renown, for whom at some point soon there will clearly need to be an article. She is already cross referenced in the psych folk and New Weird America articles. She currently has 47,000 Google hits (up from 45K yesterday), is touring in the US, and shortly in the UK. She has an All Music Guide entry. I suspect that one factor in the summary deletion of the article may have been the references to her early work being self-published. However, her album has now been issued internationally to widespread acclaim, as evidenced by a simple Google search which will show numerous positive reviews, establishing her importance as a singer-songwriter. Information should be made available on this current artist who is in the process of becoming one of international renown. Ghmyrtle 13:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Assburger syndrome – Löschung bestätigt (deletion endorsed) – trialsanderrors 07:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC) |
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I think there is substantial evidence that this exists as an innocent misspelling, and the presence of a so-called "bad word" should not have automatically caused it to be seen as disparaging and used as a reason to delete the redirect. Random832 13:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC) P.S. I think the controversy at Redirects to Asperger syndrome is grounds for a speedy relist at the very least. —Random8322007-01-26 13:44 UTC (01/26 08:44 EST)
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List of transfers of Serie A - 2007/2008 season – relisted at AFD – GRBerry 02:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC) |
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No reason given by closing admin. WP:CRYSTAL was cited by many delete proponents, however, content was referenced and citations inserted. A message left on the closing admin's talk page has gone unanswered. Neier 12:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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ProductWiki – Deletion endorsed among established editors – 06:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC) |
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I recently discovered the ProductWiki article was deleted from Misplaced Pages. I read the debate that lead to the deletion, and feel that the comments in the debate were unfair and inaccurate. I am a co-founder of ProductWiki, and we are not a spam wiki, nor new, nor an insignificant wiki. We have been growing for over 1 year, and have 13,000 products contributed by our community of almost 2,000 members. We provide a voice for the consumer, and have chosen the wiki format as the best medium. As per the WP:WEB Web notability criteria, we meet criteria #1. We have been sourced multiple times in published works, including Popular Science magazine (both print and online), the Kitchener Record, and in Ben McConnell's latest book Citizen Marketers. Ekkalvia 15:25, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
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