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| == Deleting sourced info from article == | |||
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| == Whitewashing == | |||
| Please don't delete sourced information from ]. It is considered valdalism. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 09:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for the help. I actually got him blocked the last time, and he was right back as soon as the block expired. Nice to know there's someone else keeping an eye on the article! ] 21:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Just removing warning in accordance with our discussion on the article talk page. Cheers. ] 23:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == MfD == | |||
| Just because a reference link goes bad, it doesn't mean its OK to just delete material. That kind of thing happens from time to time. You should ]. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 02:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Yes, I believe you should remove any sections that are no longer relevant or no longer being considered for ]. Should you want the page fully deleted, pleased rop me a line. -- ] 04:31, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==WIN== | |||
| :Based on my understanding of policy and the arguments given at the MfD, I do not believe keeping the pages as a "stick" to keep people in line is appropriate. If you need a page to marshal your evidence, or prepare for a possible foray into ], then that is one thing. A long-term strategic threat would be another. However, that does not mean you cannot do it; it means that should such a page be brought for MfD, I would vote to delete, and would think most people would as well. :) -- ] 04:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I'm afraid that the prospect of getting a coherent, on-topic discussion with WIN is remote. He is, essentially a "fudamentalist" who believes that Sanskrit is the origin of all IE languages (at least he appears to believe that. It's often difficult to penetrate his meaning). ] 10:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I don't think I have to. You have removed anything not pertinent to dispute resolution at this time. Should you feel that theer is a need to prepare to open a dispute resolution procedure with an editor, you should be allowed to amass evidence for that. -- ] 05:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == |
==Weigh in?== | ||
| Since you took part in the recent RfC on ], it would be great if you could weigh in ]. Thanks. ]] 17:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Your welcome. The ] articles could be written a lot better obviously, so if you've got the time to clean them up, that'd be wonderful. I don't have a lot of spare time these days, but I can certainly help when I do. ] 21:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Not likely to happen. He retired. See the tag on his userpage. '''] ]''' 05:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | ==] closed== | ||
| The aforementioned arbitration case is closed. Artaxerex is banned from Misplaced Pages for a period of one year. The parties are reminded of the need to adhere closely to the neutral point of view policy. | |||
| Please stop adding such lengthy comments in the AFD - it's considered an inappropriate form of discussion. Trim them down. A long paragraph is usually too long. Two or three sentences are usually ideal. ] 09:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| By the way, I am sorry to see you're gone. You were one of the fairest and most reasonable editors on controversial topics. Good luck in your future endeavors. ] ] 20:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Either produce knew arguments to your case, or accept defeat. You have so far convinced 0 out of 9 people. This is because you have tried to discredit (by insisting they misunderstand ] )others instead of proving your point. Thanks! ] 04:02, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader | |||
| == Persecution of early Christians by the Jews == | |||
| ==Changing other people's comments== | |||
| Please refrain from changing my edits. i.e. do not separate my comments and write between them. You have done this in the AfD of the Farahnaz Pahlavi article. Please reverse this action, and do not do it again. Please restore my comment to its previous un-seperated form. I do not appreciate you changing the format of my comment, as it detracts the organization and thus the meaning of my comment. Furthermore, how can people coherently read my comment with your edits in between my sentences? I will assume good faith and take no further action, given you restore my comment to it's previous form. Thanks!] 20:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader | |||
| I noticed you participated in the ] discussion and I thought you might be interested in participating in a similar debate over at ]. Feel free to come by and contribute your thoughts. - ] (]) 20:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Survey vote request== | |||
| Please vote in survey over whether to include text in '''History of the the Islamic Republic of Iran''' | |||
| Text and dispute is at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=History_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran&diff=274961453&oldid=274952179 | |||
| == Indo European linguists community == | |||
| ===Arguements=== | |||
| by writing linguist , one can understand that Indo-Europeanist comprises only linguistic community and not other field of sciences. This is true for any reader who may not be aware of it's exact meaning and might understand it with that it comprises all field related to IE studies. This is just to make it more understandable to common readers who refers wikipedia as it's easily available on the net. | |||
| found in edit summary and at http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:History_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran#Deletion_by_KneeJuan | |||
| Thank you --] (]) 21:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
| I had previously modified intro of IAM article which was implying that migrating Aryans brought Iron Age in India. This is wrong and it was written to in such a way that reader can misunderstand that it is because of this technical superiority migrating aryans could change language & culture of ancient India. | |||
| == ] == | |||
| I hope you can understand my point. I am just trying to avoid any misunderstanding in reader's mind. | |||
| {{Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2015/MassMessage}} ] (]) 16:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Hay, since you are interested in Ancient Iranian history , you might be interested in reading this http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Aryan_Invasion_Theory_%28history_and_controversies%29#Aryan_Migration_theory_in_Iran_from_The_Most_Comprehensive_.26_Scholarly_Website_about_Ancient_Iran_and_Iranian_Peoples_and_some_questions_from_it .If possible give some comment on it. ] 05:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Saka as you told , were occupying major part of central asia before Turkic invasion. But, same Saka when invaded ancient India, they were assimiliated into India.So, pastoral nomads changing language of vast & heavily populated IVC advanced people is highly illogical, when Witzel accepts that they accepted Material culture of IVC people. Secondly, Aryans invasion of India is ruled out by all.As per OIT , Rig-Veda is pre-Harappan creation. Secondly, it should not be misunderstood that IVC had only towns and no villages like modern India. | |||
| Secondly, later other Sanskrit scriptures where Saraswati river is told to be ending in desert or it's demise asserts timeline that Rig-Veda was created before IVC towns. And, mature IVC is vedantic period. | |||
| Just think that Iranians have not changed their language ( Farsi ) after Arab invasion. So, why & how Ancient IVC people will change language & culture when Iranians have not changed mother language inspite of Invasion. | |||
| I think my point is well written in Wiki pages along with well ref. articles of many scholars. Try to read them to understand my point. Anyway, it was nice to have word with you. ] 08:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Dear, I may not be able to help in any other matter since I am occupied with my daily business work. I am writing about Aryan related topic just because of some unknown immense interest in this matter from my childhood. I am sorry because even if I may know more about it ( Kashmiri people as asked by you ) , it will be difficult for me to spare time to write on any other topic. I wish that I would have been a school/college going guy so that I would have got more spare time to give some inputs. Anyway, thanks for asking. ] 04:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Azerbaijan== | |||
| That Iranian political party you are talking about is not the source of that quote. Read the whole article please before judging such things. Thanks. | |||
| This is what the article says: ''At the same time it was obviously considered a strong reaction to the wave of Pan Turkism, which advocated the idea of separation of Azerbaijan from Iran, posing a great threat to Iran's territorial integrity.'' This has nothing to do with that political party.] 23:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Removed prod tag from Satapes and moved it to ] == | |||
| Hi, I removed the prod tag you added to Satapes. From what I can tell, the article is actually about Sataspes. I've moved the article to that location and added a few links to the talk page for references I found. Unfortunately, I don't have time to add these to the article at the moment, but they should at least show that the article is about a real topic. ] 21:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Personal Comments== | |||
| Please make personal comments in my user page. Only put information that is directly related to keeping the article on the AfD page. I expect you put your comment in the correct page. Otherwise provide reasons as to why it is an argument to keep the article. ] 03:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader | |||
| As I said before, I will only make personal comments on your talk page. And I require you to do the same. I insist that you look up the word "keen". There is absolutely nothing insinuating about asking why someone is keen on keeping a statement on the article. ] 22:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader | |||
| :You shouldn't be asking that kind of question if you have assumed good faith. If you accepted that I edit in good faith, the only reason I would want to keep "outranked" is because I feel that it adds to the article. It is not like I failed to provide sources for the "outranked" part. The whole question was insinuating, as my reasons for including "outranked" were clear; you were suggesting that I had "other" reasons for using the term. ] 22:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Apparent Bias== | |||
| It is apparent you are biased towards my nomination of the deletion to the article on Grand Ayatolloah Mohammad Ishaq Al-Fayyad. It was in fact you who proposed deleting this article. This was in a previous conversation. After I defeated you in the AfD for Farahnaz Pahlavi, you became sour. You also began following me around, and posting comments against me in the articles I have edited. It is clear that you are just sour about losing the AfD on Farahnaz Pahlavi. It is apparent you wish to debate me further, and thus follow me around. You have done so on the AfD on Grand Ayatolloah Mohammad Ishaq Al-Fayyad. Is this constructive to the improvement of Misplaced Pages? | |||
| ::I didn't propose deleting the article, so I do not know what you are talking about. I didn't become "sour", and '''no, this is NOT clear''', despite what you claim. As far as I know, the only way I have "posted against you"(not a quote), is on the page for the Grand Ayatollah al-Fayadh, and this has nothing to do with Farahnaz Pahlavi. I noticed you edited the Iran-Germany Relations talk page not long after I made some edits when I checked the page. I suspected that you may have been following me around, but in any case, I actually fulfilled the request you made at the talk page. Then, I noticed the Fayadh stuff on your contribs page, including the nomination. Took a look at the page, thought it strange that a Grand Ayatollah was insignificant, did some research, and found that he was significant. Your accusations, especially those relating to the Farahnaz Pahlavi AFD, are utterly baseless, so you really oughtn't write such things. In no way is my opposition to the deletion of the al-Fayadh's page related to the previous AFD. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? ] 04:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hey. I suppose I should say the same thing to you that I said to Elnurso: | |||
| <blockquote>While I agree that the disputed material should be taken out for now, you might want to have a look at this: ]. In essence, by editing substance in a protected article, I would be forcing a point of view on the majority of editors who can't edit protected pages, which generally should not be done. There is already at {{]}} tag there—I hope this will suffice for now. In the meantime, I highly recommend that you try following the ] process, and see if that works. If that fails, try making a ]. Regards, <tt class="plainlinks">]]</tt> 06:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)</blockquote> | |||
| Unfortunately, If I unprotect the page right now, how do I know that the edit warring won't resume? The truth is, it most likely will—and it would be better if you could try to resolve the issue first, and ''then'' request unprotection. <tt class="plainlinks">]]</tt> 06:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Perhaps you could leave a (friendly) message at ]? He seems to be the main user on the opposing side involved in the dispute. There are other ] out there as well, perhaps you could ask some of them for advice. <tt class="plainlinks">]]</tt> 06:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == 3o: Burk's Falls == | |||
| Oka,y I re-removed that. Hopefully this war will cool off.--] 00:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Third opinion== | |||
| My third opinion is that both you and ] should carefully read ] and ], and take it easy on each other. :) ] 04:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == MAZANDERAN == | |||
| Present Mazandaran is that Mazandaran which remined in the SHanama, some scholars may think it is some where different, but Did you ever saw shanama ? did you ever hear the poems of Rameshgar ? Did you ever know who was Arash? where he born ? I will revert your all edits, Please don't insist to add what you would like --] 15:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ===Where was it ?=== | |||
| Ok, I am sure that it was not in eastern part of present day mazandaran province, neither located in yemen, nor located in syria, it was some where near or part of current mazanderan, did you ever hear about dimons ? '''DIV''' in shanama ? it is very popular in mazanderan, since many of towns are colled as Div kola, Div koti, which in mazanderani language means, house of divs, valley of divs, town of divs and more, Also i will add more alot information later, since my english is not perfect, even not professional, i need you to correcting them, Also i recommend you to reading this page , If any of them would be great, please don't hesitate to adding them to improving of articles about ], Await 4 ur reply --] 06:30, 16 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Please let me about 10 days, during this week i am very busy, I will show you some evidences, did you hear this part of shanama when a mazanderani rameshgar describes mazanderan to the key kavous ? | |||
| a remind to mazandaran our country, I wish all of it's building keeped and some more ... Did you saw it ? --] 15:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Hi again Behnam, I found a book which i consider could be usefull for you, it has many of evidences about the location of Mazandaran, search ISBN 964-6189-01-6 Kind Regards --] 14:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Please read the article carefully. The designation of Devdasis as prostitutes is disputed by many so calling it as such violates ] and ]. The sources can be appropriately cited if one is careful about NPOV and not just trying to disparage Hindus. The matter is discussed carefully in the article so plz don't violate ] by poisoning the reader's mind to a particular POV. ] 04:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::You know what we should do? Try to come up with a good lead that will be NPOV to all points of view. Those who call it prostitution (a form of anti-Hindu hatred largely meant to incite violence against Hindus) and those who explain that it is a form of symbolic sexuality through divinity and most of the literal sex acts are voluntary and unpaid so not technically prostitution. ] 04:56, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Some of your refs are bogus. This one: | |||
| http://child-abuse.com/childhouse/childwatch/cwi/projects/indicators/prostitution/part1.html | |||
| Does not even mention the term "Devdasi" but discusses a different practice of Child Prostitution not connected to religion. | |||
| :::Ths ref: | |||
| http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf-asia/repro2/TULASA.html#Causes%20of%20child | |||
| :::Alleges Child Prostitution in Devdasi but does not say that it is normative, which you assert, so it is a misrepresentation on your part. The ref actually means that the Devdasi system is abused by some people to promote Child Prostitution, not that it is categorically child prostitution. ] 05:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'm afraid you are misquslifying and misreading most of the work. Many "allege" that it is prostitution but offer little evidence to support it other than the usual "Hindus are animals kill them all" polemic we see so often nowadays. Allegations can, of course, be listed if they satisfy notability and they will. However, the bias of scholars should not affect the neutrality of an ancyclopedia, which must give equal credence to all significant viewpoints, including those of notable feminist groups and scholars that I cna cite who rubbish these assertions of prostitution. Lastly, youe post to my talk page shows that you do not know how to ] so please do. ] 05:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::It is not a question of minority but notability. The views of notable feminists who are involved with these matter carry as much precedence as scholars who allege that Hindus are animals and should be mass-murdered (as many of your cited scholars do, on occassion). By your logic, a majority of people in the west have misconceptions about many non-western religions like Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism but those misconceptions are not paraded on wikipedia without qualification. ] | |||
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Whitewashing
Thanks for the help. I actually got him blocked the last time, and he was right back as soon as the block expired. Nice to know there's someone else keeping an eye on the article! Dchall1 21:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
MfD
Yes, I believe you should remove any sections that are no longer relevant or no longer being considered for dispute resolution. Should you want the page fully deleted, pleased rop me a line. -- Avi 04:31, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Based on my understanding of policy and the arguments given at the MfD, I do not believe keeping the pages as a "stick" to keep people in line is appropriate. If you need a page to marshal your evidence, or prepare for a possible foray into dispute resolution, then that is one thing. A long-term strategic threat would be another. However, that does not mean you cannot do it; it means that should such a page be brought for MfD, I would vote to delete, and would think most people would as well. :) -- Avi 04:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think I have to. You have removed anything not pertinent to dispute resolution at this time. Should you feel that theer is a need to prepare to open a dispute resolution procedure with an editor, you should be allowed to amass evidence for that. -- Avi 05:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Weigh in?
Since you took part in the recent RfC on Talk:India, it would be great if you could weigh in here. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not likely to happen. He retired. See the tag on his userpage. Yahel Guhan 05:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
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By the way, I am sorry to see you're gone. You were one of the fairest and most reasonable editors on controversial topics. Good luck in your future endeavors. Picaroon (t) 20:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Persecution of early Christians by the Jews
I noticed you participated in the Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Historical persecution by Jews (2nd nomination) discussion and I thought you might be interested in participating in a similar debate over at Talk:Persecution of early Christians by the Jews. Feel free to come by and contribute your thoughts. - CheshireKatz (talk) 20:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Survey vote request
Please vote in survey over whether to include text in History of the the Islamic Republic of Iran
Text and dispute is at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=History_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran&diff=274961453&oldid=274952179
Arguements
found in edit summary and at http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:History_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran#Deletion_by_KneeJuan
Thank you --BoogaLouie (talk) 21:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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