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| :{{u|TonyBallioni }} I'd like to elaborate a bit on my close rationale since I didn't at the time. I felt that the supporting arguments expressed during the discussion (especially Yaksar's comment) were stronger than the opposing ones, and support had significantly more numerical support, so I didn't feel it would be correct to close as no-consensus. Obviously I did not consider any points that weren't raised in the discussion. However, it was a fairly well attended move and would require moving the pages back to reopen, so I feel that opening a new discussion would be more appropriate if you disagree with the closure. (] · ]) ''']''' 02:07, 22 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::I don't necessarily take issue with the closure, but I think it's also pretty normal to re-open those when someone has a substantive objection. The only argument on the move side that provided any substantial analysis was {{u|Yaksar}}'s, and {{u|Necrothesp}}'s point about the cardinal being the obvious primary topic based on significance was solidly grounded in policy.{{pb}}To put it in context: we've made someone who is a possible candidate for deletion at AfD (not sure how it'd go, but there's a possibility of deletion) as being more significant than the most significant figure in the Catholic Church's response to the sex abuse crisis. One of them probably won't have a Misplaced Pages article in 5-10 years. In 100 years, books will probably still be referencing Sean O'Malley's response to the ] scandal upon his appointment as Archbishop of Boston.{{pb}}Basically, I don't fault your close, but it wasn't a robust discussion by any means, one of the participants was an IP, and no one really addressed the long-term significance point that Necrothesp brought up, and that's an extremely significant point from a policy perspective. When I was more involved with RMs, when someone came forward with a substantive objection to the close from a "this should be discussed more/wasn't addressed" standpoint, typically I'd normally do a courtesy relist, which is where I'm coming from. Basically there's a pretty strong policy rationale against this move that wasn't really discussed in-depth in the discussion, the move was relatively recent, and the burden shouldn't be on those advocating for the ''status quo'' to have to re-prove it after a discussion that didn't really say much. ] (]) 02:19, 22 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :::I would second Tony's points and request for reopening. The cardinal is undoubtedly frequently referred to in reliable sources as Seán O'Malley, probably more than by his full name. He is clearly the primary topic for this name, as he obviously beats the fighter hands down on long-term significance (currently active sports figures are almost always going to prove primary if we only take pageviews into account), and I really don't think the presence of the acute accent is enough to provide decent disambiguation, as accents are often omitted. These points were addressed by only one of the contributors, with the others simply ignoring them. -- ] (]) 07:41, 22 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'd appreciate a response to the above. Like I said, I think this is a fairly normal request for an RM without much substantive input, and I'm somewhat surprised it hasn't been reopened yet. ] (]) 03:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I really think a RM should only be reopened very soon after it's closed, within a reasonable frame for the RM to be continuously open. For example, an RM is closed after 7 days, the next day someone posts and asks it to be relisted, I would probably say yes. But a month after it's closed the only reason to be overturned if it was badly closed in the first place, which I don't think it was. Otherwise, it shouldn't be reopened for the same reason why move requests should not be left open for months. Long term significance was never addressed during the discussion. The only comment being that there's "no way the fighter is the primary topic". Such an assertion is not a strong argument without explaining why it's the primary topic (pageviews, coverage in reliable source, long-term significance, etc.) along with some evidence that supports the assertion. (] · ]) ''']''' 05:05, 26 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I disagree with your characterization of the discussion, but the time thing is reasonable, but it also leaves us with a ridiculous result: this was very obviously the wrong outcome from a policy basis. The arguments for moving were extremely weak and had been rebutted (i.e. Seán vs. Sean), and a Google page count of a sports figure vs. a cardinal will obviously go with the sports figure while they are active, but it doesn't mean that they are more significant from a policy standpoint. There's a very good reason to have a discussion about this again, and it should take place from the ''status quo'' because the original move lacked a basis in policy. I don't mind being told I'm wrong here if the points are actually discussed. What I do mind is having to start from a place where we need an active consensus to undo a move that so very clearly is out of line with the page name policies and guidelines. The burden should be on those arguing for a move outside of the norm to provide evidence to support it. That never happened. ] (]) 16:50, 26 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
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Please note that The World War II Talk page "is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject." it is not a place to discuss editors' opinions on new books about WWII. If you have a suggestion for a specific addition to the article please provide it with appropriate sources. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 11:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Aemilius Adolphin Your overzealous attempt to unilaterally police the talk page are in fact likely to be considered edit warring, if reported. If it's controversial or other editors disagree, you should not be removing others' comments on talk pages. I am asking you to self revert. (t · c) buidhe 22:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- You are right that I was overzealous in reverting your contribution to the talk page. I apologise for this. However, if you start a Talk topic called "Interesting new book" and then ask people to comment on a summary of this book you shouldn't be surprised if someone thinks you are inviting other editors to enter into a general debate about this book. It would have been better to start a topic called something like: "Estimates of Civilian Deaths" and then propose a change to the info box based on cited page numbers of this book. Also the question you posed is already canvassed in the article so it appeared to me that you hadn't even read the article. Nevertheless I should have answered you question on your Talk page or on the article Talk page as I have now done. Again I apologise for not taking your question seriously. I hope you have a great new year and that I wake up less cranky than I was. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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