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== "Critical acclaim on release"? == |
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==Duration of trip== |
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Was it two days, as stated in the intro paragraph, or three days, as given in the plot section? IIRC they have two nights, so might depend on your definition - could have been ~48 hours or included time in a total of 3 days.] (]) 19:46, 2 January 2011 (UTC) |
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The article says "''It was greeted with critical acclaim upon release''", but is that true? The only reference in support of the statement is a Jay Carr review, which judging from the title ("'PLANES, TRAINS' NEVER GETS OFF THE GROUND") says the opposite. Writing years later, ] said, "''Some movies are obviously great. Others gradually thrust their greatness upon us.''" - indicating it was not immediately acclaimed as a great film. ] (]) 02:01, 4 December 2019 (UTC) |
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:I agree with your concern and have tagged the statement requesting a better source. ] (]) 02:23, 4 December 2019 (UTC) |
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I recommend removing this quote. It seems to be obviously there for the sake of plastering "fuck" all over an article with legitimate purposes. It looks pretty pathetic to have a short summary and a big quote at the end (which really contributes nothing to the article). We should develop the article to look more like other movie articles. If there are no votes against removal, please remove it.--] 17:26, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC) |
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:If does stay (which I don't think it should) it should be uncensored. ] 23:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC) |
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I removed it. It was not necesary for that to be on there. |
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== A movie from the 1980s == |
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I found a youtube clip that counts 19 f*%ks in total, but it is 18 for Steve Martin and 1 for Edie McClurg (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-9g9lZSefI) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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It must be mentioned that the version of the 1980s that was shown in the film was handled with kid gloves. In other words, controversy was carefully killed, as were any class perspectives. "Hey!" someone might say. "This was a light comedy, what are you talking about?" |
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Steve Martin by the late 80s and 90s mostly played roles where he simply wasn't poor and money was never a problem. The epitome of someone in the 1980s who was going to be the star. People were and are openly hostile to poverty. In PTA Martin's character is obviously a very wealthy "marketer" working in New York City with a castle sized house who gets humbled by someone who isn't exactly poor (although he is) but doesn't have love in his life. This kills any class discussion. Unrelated perhaps to the article is the fact that by the 1990s Steve Martin had mostly devolved from crazed comedy to playing a father troubled by rich family issues - apparently to the delight of the paying public. What is the point of this "section" that sounds like it is critical of a sweet comedy with a happy ending? The producers of this film hid the America of the 1980s. A man with a trunk in an airport who has no hope of making money - especially not something as ludicrous as selling shower curtain rings, for which there were few if any such jobs - might have been too sad. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:06, 25 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Comparing the characters to Abbott and Costello is not ] and ], so I removed them. ] 20:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:Interesting, but ] unless you can provide sources which have discussed this. Cheers. ] (]) 18:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC) |
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== Correction == |
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==Oral history reference== |
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*https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/11/planes-trains-and-automobiles-oral-history?fbclid=IwAR10nRQ048k0bCxgu3zQrCAv5EULJ1wqPdf4I5OX63al33w3AGXDk28I_VA |
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*https://collider.com/planes-trains-automobiles-enduring-comedy-john-hughes/ ] / ] 23:37, 22 November 2022 (UTC) |
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== Wrong state patrol == |
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The character Neil Page uses the word 'fuck' 18 times in the famous scene, not 19 as mentioned in the article. The word is said 19 times but the final usage comes from the ticket agent (Edie McClurg). --] 12:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC) |
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The trooper that stopped them was from Wisconsin I cant edit the part but the patch and state outline is Wisconsin State Patrol not the Illinois Police ] (]) 05:33, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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It also wasn't the word "fuck" that Neil uses, it was "fucking", Edie McClurg says "You're fucked"...... If any of that really even matters. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Do you have a source to support this claim? In any case, as evidenced from the map shown in the article, Del and Ned don't enter Wisconsin, so if the trooper is wearing Wisonsin items then that would apparently be an error. ] (]) 06:54, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Thanks, I forgot to sign the last post. --] (]) 15:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::I think they're basing this on deleted scenes. The trooper isn't from Wisconsin in the finished film but in the long version they were meant to get turned around on the motorway and end up in Wisconsin to explain why they still aren't in Chicago and end up spending the night in that hotel they accidentally back into. But I don't believe it's meant to be Wisconsin in the finished film. ] (]) 08:16, 24 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== WikiProject class rating== |
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== Flight == |
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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. ] 01:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC) |
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The airline ticket notes JFK as departure not LGA. ] (]) 00:55, 24 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== The moral to the story == |
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''As long as you are more patient enough, you will never know where your next friend will be.'' ] (]) 22:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:] unless it's received significant coverage from reliable sources. ] (]) 04:24, 25 November 2023 (UTC) |
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==They were in Wisconsin when their car was impounded== |
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Although the map shows that Neal and Del went from Missouri into Illinois and to Chicago; they did go to Wisconsin for a short time. This is where they met Wisconsin State Trooper ] who impounds their car and they have to ride in the back of a milk truck to get to Chicago. This can be proven by looking at the right side panel of the police car when he pulls out of his hiding place to chase Neal and Del. The right side panel of the police car clearly shows the state of Wisconsin. It was states at the ] that there was a scene that explained how they wound up in Wisconsin, but, obviously after the fire that almost destroyed their car, they got lost, and their maps were burnt up.] (]) 15:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)Bennett Turk |
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== Lawyer == |
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Who played him? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:27, 15 June 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Reception == |
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The reception section is a mess, and is in need of a complete reorganization, improvement of the refs, and a more clear description of what specific critics said about the film. One assertion is that the film received critical applause, with a reference that says "the film never gets off the ground." This simply makes no sense. ---''']''''']'' 21:09, 1 August 2012 (UTC) |
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:Indeed! ] (]) 21:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC) |
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::The business figures, both for earnings and budget, are very suspect too. I've replaced the claim that it "earned over 150,000,000" with the figure for its domestic gross. I seem to recall the budget was nearer to $30m than $15m, but I'll need to find a source for that. ] (]) 21:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC) |
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== House == |
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Is the house Steve Martin and his family live in, the same one used for Home Alone? It looks like it. ] (]) 02:57, 22 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Unsourced material == |
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Below information was tagged for needing sources long-term. Feel free to reinsert with appropriate references. ] (]) 18:57, 8 May 2014 (UTC) |
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<div style="font-size:112%;">==Production== |
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In a 1987 interview, John Hughes said that the movie was inspired by an actual trip he took from Chicago to New York in which he was supposed to return the same evening, but wound up in Wichita and made it home five days later. |
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Hughes shot over {{convert|600000|ft|m}} of film, almost twice the industry average. The rumored three-hour version of the film does indeed exist, although not in order. Hughes later commented that "it's a mess of footage" that would take "months, maybe even years" to transform into an actual film. The excess footage remains locked away in a Paramount vault, and according to Hughes (who died in 2009), most of it has "probably deteriorated by now". |
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No transportation company wanted to appear inept or deficient in any way, so crews had to rent twenty miles (32 km) of railway trackage and refurbish old railway cars, construct a set that looked like an airline terminal, design a rental car company logo and uniforms, and rent 250 cars for the car rental scene. |
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The interior of the Wichita airport scene was filmed on a studio lot in Los Angeles and was the final scene using extras on the shoot. |
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Hughes had originally selected ] ({{convert|60|mi|km}} south of Chicago) for its train station for several scenes, but a lack of ] prevented the filming from occurring. Indeed, the ] weather was so warm that film crews were unable to utilize snowmaking equipment. While actors and crews waited for colder weather, several interior scenes were shot in a deserted warehouse in Kankakee using what are called "]". Ultimately, the crew opted for ] for snow scenes. |
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Local officials in Kankakee that were working with producers worked feverishly to keep the crew in town in the hopes of the arrival of colder weather. The hotel scene in which Candy and Martin share a hotel bed was shot during this waiting period at a hotel in nearby ], thanks to the efforts of the local ]. |
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The hotel which Steve Martin and John Candy stayed in when they drove the rental car into the building, was filmed in ] at the El Rancho Motel located on US 41, which has now been converted into studio apartments. |
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The film is rated R by the ] for a scene where Steve Martin goes on a tirade against a car rental agent (]) and says the word "]ing" 18 times in a minute. It ends with the agent stating "Oh, boy... you're fucked." The US is the only body which internationally awarded it a 17+ rating; in most countries (in ] and ], for example), the film is rated PG. |
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The rental car was a 1986 ] Town and Country with a 2.2L turbo engine that was customized for the film. Modifications included the tail lights, steering wheel, and owner's manual from a ], custom paint, custom wheel covers, a very long antenna, a 'D' hood ornament, fender badges that appear to say 'Gran Detroit', 'Turbo', and 'Farm & Country', and a trunk lid that was off of an older ] convertible due to the luggage rack. In one of the shots during the night-time drive, the original burgundy metallic paint can be seen on the interior of the car.</div> |
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== Budget == |
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The current entry says that the budget was $30 million. This is almost certainly incorrect; it's almost unthinkable. ] (with all its special effects and three well-known actors) had a budget of $30 million. Compared with other movies from 1987, ] was $11 million, ] was $20 million, ] was $13 million, and ] was $15 million. For John Hughes movies, ] was $1 million, ] was $6 million, ] was $6 million, ] was $15 million, and ] was $18 million. I highly doubt the $30 million figure for this movie. ] (]) 08:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC) |
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Googling "Planes, Trains & Automobiles budget" gives an answer of $15 million which seems more likely although there's no source and no information on any of the top search results. ] (]) 00:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC) |
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== Steve martin discusses the film == |
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/the-john-candy-joke-that-still-makes-steve-martin-cry/ar-AAC2zzd?ocid=spartanntp |
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] (]) 21:05, 28 May 2019 (UTC) |
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== TIL == |
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People trains don't run outta Stubbville because it doesn't exist. Instead people trains run outta Newton. |
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Quote: "The nearest Amtrak station is in Newton 25 miles (40 km) north" ] (]) 10:30, 12 June 2019 (UTC) |
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== dvd versions == |
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I have two dvd versions of the movie. One is the "Those Aren't Pillows!" Edition, |
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which has the airplane food scene in it that the other doesn't have. |
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Yet they are both listed as being 92 minutes. |
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I wonder what the total differences in the two versions are. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:39, 12 July 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== "Critical acclaim on release"? == |
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The article says "''It was greeted with critical acclaim upon release''", but is that true? The only reference in support of the statement is a Jay Carr review, which judging from the title ("'PLANES, TRAINS' NEVER GETS OFF THE GROUND") says the opposite. Writing years later, ] said, "''Some movies are obviously great. Others gradually thrust their greatness upon us.''" - indicating it was not immediately acclaimed as a great film. ] (]) 02:01, 4 December 2019 (UTC) |
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:I agree with your concern and have tagged the statement requesting a better source. ] (]) 02:23, 4 December 2019 (UTC) |
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== A movie from the 1980s == |
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It must be mentioned that the version of the 1980s that was shown in the film was handled with kid gloves. In other words, controversy was carefully killed, as were any class perspectives. "Hey!" someone might say. "This was a light comedy, what are you talking about?" |
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Steve Martin by the late 80s and 90s mostly played roles where he simply wasn't poor and money was never a problem. The epitome of someone in the 1980s who was going to be the star. People were and are openly hostile to poverty. In PTA Martin's character is obviously a very wealthy "marketer" working in New York City with a castle sized house who gets humbled by someone who isn't exactly poor (although he is) but doesn't have love in his life. This kills any class discussion. Unrelated perhaps to the article is the fact that by the 1990s Steve Martin had mostly devolved from crazed comedy to playing a father troubled by rich family issues - apparently to the delight of the paying public. What is the point of this "section" that sounds like it is critical of a sweet comedy with a happy ending? The producers of this film hid the America of the 1980s. A man with a trunk in an airport who has no hope of making money - especially not something as ludicrous as selling shower curtain rings, for which there were few if any such jobs - might have been too sad. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:06, 25 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Interesting, but ] unless you can provide sources which have discussed this. Cheers. ] (]) 18:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC) |
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It must be mentioned that the version of the 1980s that was shown in the film was handled with kid gloves. In other words, controversy was carefully killed, as were any class perspectives. "Hey!" someone might say. "This was a light comedy, what are you talking about?"
Steve Martin by the late 80s and 90s mostly played roles where he simply wasn't poor and money was never a problem. The epitome of someone in the 1980s who was going to be the star. People were and are openly hostile to poverty. In PTA Martin's character is obviously a very wealthy "marketer" working in New York City with a castle sized house who gets humbled by someone who isn't exactly poor (although he is) but doesn't have love in his life. This kills any class discussion. Unrelated perhaps to the article is the fact that by the 1990s Steve Martin had mostly devolved from crazed comedy to playing a father troubled by rich family issues - apparently to the delight of the paying public. What is the point of this "section" that sounds like it is critical of a sweet comedy with a happy ending? The producers of this film hid the America of the 1980s. A man with a trunk in an airport who has no hope of making money - especially not something as ludicrous as selling shower curtain rings, for which there were few if any such jobs - might have been too sad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.74.120 (talk) 21:06, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The trooper that stopped them was from Wisconsin I cant edit the part but the patch and state outline is Wisconsin State Patrol not the Illinois Police 69.128.7.21 (talk) 05:33, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
