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| ==Evidence presented by ] (Peter M Dodge)== | |||
| ===Fyslee and Ilena are valued contributors that have made positive contributions=== | |||
| (Evidence forthcoming) | |||
| ===Fyslee posted an negative website that provoked a strong response=== | |||
| (Evidence forthcoming) | |||
| ===Ilena's responses to Fyslee were inappropriate=== | |||
| (Evidence forthcoming) | |||
| ===Ilena made several pointed personal attacks=== | |||
| (Evidence forthcoming) | |||
| ===Fyslee made unreasonable demands that prolonged the dispute=== | |||
| (Evidence forthcoming) | |||
| ==Evidence presented by ] == | |||
| ===Fyslee functions as a publicist or PR or media agent for Barrett's operations despite repeated denials of this fact=== | |||
| ===During the course of this Arbitration, Fyslee attempted to destroy valuable evidence=== | |||
| '''A. ''' One of the most serious accusations against me, behavior that was called ''egregious,'' was that I had somehow outed and endangered Fyslee and his family's safety by posting his real world name on Misplaced Pages. In fact, I found evidence that as recently as December, 2006, on Misplaced Pages, he himself was using his own name right next to his Wiki name. On January 30, 2007, as I began searching for the diffs for this Arbitration, I found the archives had been tampered with. After this was exposed and much ado, he then had the '''160 revisions''' of the Wiki records un-revised. | |||
| '''B.''' After Fyslee posted a link to Chirotalk during discussions of a lawsuit against Stephen Barrett and Allen Botnick on January 30, 2007, I followed his link . I found 668 posts by him with his real world name and fyslee together. I found him called, "..., the wikipedian expert" and on this post he was soliciting others from the group to come onto Misplaced Pages and gave precise instructions. When I went back on January 31, 2007, I found that he had removed his name and administrator status, and replaced it with "fys God" at 6:06 that morning. Today, February 1, 2007, it was again revised, this time calling himself ''Abracadabraarbadacarba'' and again identifying himself as an administrator, but removing his name which had been there since 2004. Today, February 15, 2007, he's now "HerAardvark." Most importantly, is reviewing his work on Chirotalk (664 posts) and seeing his frequent discussions of Misplaced Pages and urges to join and help him collaborate. . | |||
| '''C.''' After finding Chirotalk and watching the above happen, I witnessed another case of disappearing evidence. Here are two versions of the same thread that got altered during the first week of February. The removed comment was "This sounds like a job that (Fyslee's real world name) could help spearhead." Here is the archived version and the altered one -- within 24 hours of each other. | |||
| ===Satire, Fyslee, PR ... o my=== | |||
| In the simplest terms, a ] or ] ] is one who attempts to get as much positive information as possible into ... and keep as much negative information possible out of ... the public eye. Although fyslee has repeatedly and vehemently denied that he is Barrett's publicist, and claims to have ''never misrepresented anything,'' that is absolutely not factual. When caught in blatant lies, he has been known to feign surprise and make apologies and retractions, winning him praise for his flexibility.This is a technique to win favor when caught disseminating blatant disinformation. | |||
| Despite repeated claims to the contrary, Fyslee, on Misplaced Pages, and many other places on the internet (blogs, lists, forums, etc.), clearly functions as one of Barrett's (and his related operations) publicists. During his early Wiki days, he was promoting his and Barrett's Healthfraud List where he remained Barrett's assistant from 2000 through 2006. | |||
| In fact, this quote from him shows undeniably that his behavior is as Barrett's publicist. '''''If you have any other matters that need answering, just ask. The answers usually exist, and I know the people who can provide them. Keep in mind that Barrett, the NCAHF, etc. are open about their activities. They have nothing to hide. The information is there if you know where to look. Even participation on the Healthfraud Discussion List requires using ones real name. Regards, Paul -- Fyslee''''' 21:17, 8 February 2006 (UTC) (''I believe that the diff that is meant here is — ] ] 18:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)'') | |||
| He posts links to his own homepages, blogs and webrings, and openly and repeatedly discusses his years of responsibilities as assistant listmaster for the plaintiffs' Healthfraud List . | |||
| I will itemize a few clear pieces of disinformation he has posted. | |||
| '''A.''' ''" .'''..The NCAHF is still registered in California."''''' -- Fyslee 18:37, 13 December 2006(UTC) In fact, NCAHF was suspended in May, 2003 by the State of California. This falsity had been discussed (with this link) for over 6 months, yet Fyslee and others working closely with him, managed to keep this verified fact off of the NCAHF page for that period of time, causing much of the edit wars between he and I. | |||
| Excellent definition of satire, from Misplaced Pages: ''Although satire is usually witty, and often very funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humour but criticism of an event, an individual or a group in a clever manner.'' ] | |||
| (more to come ... will be away for a few days) | |||
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| ==Evidence presented by ] == | |||
| I became involved in this dispute relatively late. I have 2 points to bring up. | |||
| === Fyslee's involvement== | |||
| Fyslee called for outside editors to edit Misplaced Pages. Ilena's evidence for this- is incontrovertible. In general, such behavior is not a good thing especially when it occurs in a partisan forum. However, Fyslee did say in the request "Keep in mind that POV (point of view) editing is forbidden, and one must cooperate with other editors, also antagonists. Articles must present all POV, including unfavorable ones. Think carefully before saving edits, since every edit is recorded publically for posterity, so mistakes will haunt you" Given that, it seems that at least in that limited matter Fyslee's behavior was not so bad, since Fyslee seemed to be trying in a good faith way to make sure the editors who joined in understood that they should be neutral. | |||
| === Ilena === | |||
| Ilena has been editing a wide variety of alternative medicine related articles, and has been editing them all with a strong POV. This has included most recently her getting blocked for 3RR on ] (this was in fact an NRR for large N, see ). Some of this may just be her general problems with Barrett spreading to other articles. In this case, her POV about Barrett was so strong that she made a massive distortion of a court decision involving him. . This editor has acknowledged her conflict with Barrett and despite that has continued to attack him and edit articles removing material about Barrett and adding attacks to Barrett in a variety of articles. The conflict of interest is clear and her refusal to back down despite it is also clear. | |||
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