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==WRAJ==
MASSIVE update on the page. More information than you could want, so I think that will make everyone happy and there will be no need for the AfD tag, which I have taken down as I can't find a corresponding page to go with it. If any further updates are needed to the page, please let me know. - ] <sup>(] - ])</sup> 08:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
:I would like to know why, after the massive update, that the WRAJ page was still deleted? - ] <sup>(] - ])</sup> 11:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
::It was deleted at the AFD, see ]. If you object to this, you can start a ] about it. ] 11:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


==Orangemonster==
::There was probably something truthful in the above statement, somewhere, but I'm not bothering to go look for it since it's objectively false in every sense. It's a repost, nuked speedily after ], which Orangemonster2k1 can't be ignorant of because he cast the only "Keep" !vote. Nice doesn't work with me, being honest does. --] | ] 07:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
:Hi Calton,
:It wouldn't kill you to be nice ''and'' honest, you know. :) You're far to valuable to this encyclopedia to lose, but, come on, he's just a newbie who has obviously rubbed you the wrong way. I've advised him not to remove ] tags, and hopefully that will be the last of it. <font color="#0000FF">]</font> 08:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


== Pls stp vndlzng ] == == RIP Calton Bolick (1961-2022) ==


I regret to inform the Misplaced Pages community that Calton Bolick has passed away, Friday evening Japan time, after a short illness. I've known Cal online for more than 30 years; he was always a fascinating and complicated intellect, sometimes a bit pointy on the edges, but always honest and direct in the pursuit of truth. I'll miss him. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 04:42, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Pls stp. f y cntn t vndls Wkpd, y wll b blckd. Wll-srcd mtrl bt lgsltv vts, nd prtclrly bt th thrng f n mndmnt t lgsltn tht pssd 400-3, s nt "trv." Dltng t wtht frst gnng cnsnss n th Tlk pg s vndlsm. Pls stp] 12:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
*My sincere sympathies to Calton's friends and family. He will be missed. ] (]) 05:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
*My regards to those who knew and loved Calton. So sad. We will miss you but your edits will outlive us all. ] (]) 05:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
*Not unexpected, as I was aware of his serious health problems, but very sad. I'll miss him too. ] &#124; ] 08:57, 27 February 2022 (UTC).
* RIP. ''']] (])''' 09:45, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
*My condolences to your friends and family. ] (]) 11:22, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
*Very sad news. I didn't really know him, but I always admired his commitment to Misplaced Pages. He'll be missed. ] ] 12:18, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
*Sad news for those he leaves behind. Keep on patrolling, bro. ] 12:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
*Deepest condolences to Calton's family and friends. ] (]) 13:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
*Terrible news. HE will be missed that is for sure. ] (]) 15:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
*Rest in peace. ]] 00:00, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
*A sad loss for Wikiepdia and more so for his friends and family. My condolences and deepest sympathy to them. ]&#124;] 01:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
*Rest in peace. ''''']]]''''' 03:29, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
*Condolences to all family and friends of Calton. Rest in peace. ] (]) 19:07, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
*I'm so sorry to hear this. --] (]) 19:57, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
*Calton died-- this is quite a shock. I remember our run-ins fondly. His heard was in the right place. He was an editor dedicated to the truth and to this project. He will be missed; my sympathies to his friends and family. ] (]) 01:53, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
*Sincere condolences to family and friends. Semper circuitus. ] (]) 07:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
*I am sorry to hear of his passing. He was someone whose presence brought the warm light of knowledge to the cold darkness. ] (]) 19:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
*My condolences to all who knew and loved him, and my blessings to his spirit. A shocking loss, indeed. He was a strong voice on this project, and will obviously be missed. RIP. ] (]) 09:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
*I'm so saddened to hear this. RIP Calton. ] (]) 13:17, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
*RIP —] • ] • ] 04:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)


== My Reply == == RIP ==


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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | requiescat in pace ] (]) 08:50, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
In reply to your buddy, Proto, I asked him how my link was any different thant the others, and indeed I make good arguments that will stand under the light of day.
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If you could consider this... --] 00:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

* --] 00:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

==About your comments on my user page==

I wasn't aware that there was a limit on the number of links that could be included in a user page. I've removed them now.

] 20:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)Bonnie Ventura

==My website==

Thanks for pointing that out. I am restructuring the Australian section of my website, and as a result all Misplaced Pages links to Australian elections at my website will now need to be changed (or deleted). Since I am cutting back my involvement at Misplaced Pages it won't be me that changes them - someone else will need to. ] 03:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

== List of the Daily Show guests AFD ==

Since you voted on the previous AFD (]) I thought you may wish to vote again on the article's second AFD: ]. ] 01:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

I'd like you to consider reverting your last to this page. There has been an extreme amount of discussion on the BLP and weight issues, and if you look at the talk page, you'll see that the version you've rv'ed from has the most support. ] 06:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== <font color=000099>Unnecessary Purple Font</font> ==

I've replied on my talk. Do you want me to paste my response here so you can get a centralized discussion? --] - '']'' - ] 08:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== Removed? ==
May I ask why? I see it as a harmless joke, and, hey, I've eaten over 150 brains already. For now, I'm putting it back up, unless you give me a good reason to keep it off. - ] 09:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:PS on valentines day too, ouch

== Civil ==

You of all people have no business commenting on civility. ] 05:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I was only banned for trolling, not sockpuppteering or any other creative thing you can come up with in order to justify your "crusade." ] 05:23, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Nice, comparing me to Al Capone. Hrrm, name one sockpuppet that I have done, or name anything other than get on your bad side I have done and I would gladly leave the project. Can't think of one, can you? ] 05:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you are incorrect. Those accounts were never mine, I never signed up for those. I either edited under "Ray Lopez" or IPs. Go ahead and request a check user if you want; judging from the check user results, those accounts were linked to ] and not ]. Nice try though, and thank you for playing. Do not launch any further personal attacks at me again unless you have your facts and your house in order. ] 06:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't think so. You're actually quite wrong. I'm sorry that you're so blind sided by the fact that you desire to be right so strongly. Perhaps you should talk over your passive aggressiveness issues with a psychotherapist vice taking it out on your "enemies" online. ] 07:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

== Absolutely not the case ==
Talk pages are for other users to communicate with one another and it is specifically stated on ] that the only types of edits you may remove are
#Your own
#Personal attacks
#Threats.
#Vandalism
None of those were the case, and the fact that you reverted such changes without an adequate edit summary makes you impeding the editing process. I'm not trying to make an issue out of this or report you to '''anywhere''' but you plainly misunderstand how talk pages are to be used. What I'm capable of enforcing is entirely unrelated to the fact that what you were doing was outside wikipedia's stated policies and should be stopped. So please stop reverting other user's edits to your talk page. If you feel it is absolutely necessary, please use an edit summary to explain why. ] 07:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:since I need to be "spoon fed" I thought I'd go extract the relevant text from the linked page
:*"Don't edit others' comments: Refrain from editing others' comments without their permission (with the exception of prohibited material such as libel and personal details). It is not necessary to bring talk pages to publishing standards, so there is no need to correct typing errors, grammar, etc. It tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Never edit someone's words to change their meaning."
:To my knowledge reversion counts as editing. It's not twisting the meaning at all to assert that deleting text is on par with changing it's meaning. It's uncivil to silence users you are having a dispute with, however wrong they may be in that dispute. ] 07:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


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== In reference to your last edits on Gamaliel's, Hipocrite's, and Teresa Knott's talk pages ===
{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|With regards to your comments on ]:&#32;}}Please see Misplaced Pages's ] policy. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to ] for disruption. Please ] and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. <!-- Template:No personal attacks (npa2) --> ] 08:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


== RIP ==


you will always be editing in heaven.... 🕊 ] (]) 16:39, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
==OK fine==
I'll have to do this point for point, because pendantry is the only appropriate answer for pendantry.,
1. I DID NOT mean I felt I was incorrect about my statements regarding policy. It clearly states in the very first line of WP:TALK (emphasis mine)
*The purpose of a Misplaced Pages talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or '''project page'''
that's plainly stated for not just being for articles as you claimed. I was trying to avoid discussing policy because that can get in the way of meaningful communication. It was quite close to being libelous to accuse me of having false motivations in this matter. (Note: this is not intended as a legal threat, just a note that you went out of line in what you were accusing me of).
2. I did not "side" with anyone or anything. I also asked Mr Ray Lopez to reconsider his course of action because his "personalized", if you will, warnings do not match the neutral and calm tone of standard wikipedia warnings. The 3RR warning was directed at both of you. This was an understandable mistake on your part because it is a natural element of human psychology to attach sides to those you interact with. Please understand that I have no interest in this matter besides preventing inappropriate edit wars and reversions of talk page material.
3. Your links don't seem to tell me much of anything about why you reverted those particular edits. You make some accusations but that doesn't really seem to relate at all to the reverted material. They seemed to qualify as warnings regarding your behavior on wikipedia, and hence my involvement(I watch for negatives on user talk because frequently vandals remove content from their talk pages to avoid being blocked).
And since it really does matter to you, yes I apologize for interefering, as it is a great deal of trouble for you over what must seem a quible. However informing users of policy regarding their actions still seems necessary to me. ] 08:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

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RIP Calton Bolick (1961-2022)

I regret to inform the Misplaced Pages community that Calton Bolick has passed away, Friday evening Japan time, after a short illness. I've known Cal online for more than 30 years; he was always a fascinating and complicated intellect, sometimes a bit pointy on the edges, but always honest and direct in the pursuit of truth. I'll miss him. --jpgordon 04:42, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

RIP

RIP
requiescat in pace Dronebogus (talk) 08:50, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

RIP

you will always be editing in heaven.... 🕊 Im wikipediania (talk) 16:39, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

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