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== Thanks... rewrote badly == | ||
Thank you Timbo. I *did* lose my comment, and was very upset about it. I rewrote something not as good and posted that. I'll stick with what I posted, but I do thank you for your quick intervention. High regards, ] ] 06:52, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for your message. You are more or less right about Jimbo's action at autofellatio, I think, but he was quite clear that he didn't approve of the image and thought it should be removed ''until there was a compromise''. I've asked for the same, Timbo. We could link the image until the problem is resolved. | |||
== Me too! (Off topic) == | |||
I don't agree that the minority must concede, Timbo. I think NPOV means, clearly, that ''all views'' must be included, not that the majority must prevail. We have been over this enough times. You haven't yet convinced me that "consensus" means "the majority wins" and I'm not at all convinced that was the intention of Misplaced Pages, nor do I want to see that principle prevail. I believe fiercely in inclusivity in this project. I do not agree that polls are a good means to create a consensus. Quite the opposite. They destroy any attempt to find one. The polls confirmed that there is a majority for keeping the image, Timbo, but you ought not to ignore that they also showed that there is some dissent. You would be kidding yourself if you did not think there was. | |||
Hi again Timbo, | |||
From my POV, I don't see the big deal in linking the image. You can still view it if you wish to, but those that do not know that there will be images that are illegal in many places and, at the very least, considered objectionable in others, will not be upset. Why is it such a bad thing that we should show some concern not to upset readers? It doesn't mean we agree with them. I have been quite clear, Timbo, that I am not a prude, am not offended by the images in question and do not have any desire to have a censored Misplaced Pages. But the hardliners have opposed all means even to allow the page to be displayed without the picture, any warning and any way to prevent upset. It seems to me that they are determined to push their POV and feel justified because they have a majority. | |||
I was making great strides as a scholar at UVa -- completed all coursework; passed orals; dissertation 1/3 done ... then I decided a divorce would be way more fun and profitable. Turned out I was wrong. | |||
But look, Timbo, a majority of people on this planet believe there is a God of some kind. Would we want our page on God to suggest that it's a fact there is one? Misplaced Pages does not simply reflect the majority, white, liberal view. I'm proud that it doesn't. I will continue to argue that it shouldn't. ] 08:25, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC) | |||
You have a good page. Thanks again for the help. | |||
Regards, | |||
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== Re: Invalid VFD Thanks == | |||
'''Originally posted to ]''' | |||
Hi ClockworkSoul, thanks for at least agreeing with me about the VFD vote :). I really don't think the image is only used for shock value, but I can't convince everyone! Cheers, ] ] 06:52, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) | |||
* Heya Timbo. The way I see it, if I have to be underhanded to prove my point, then my point obviously isn't very strong to begin with. In pursuit of that, I try to be sure that I care more about being honest than right. My wife hated that about me during the presidential elections. ;) – ]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) | |||
==Fair use== | |||
En Misplaced Pages en español no se admite la subida de imágenes "fair use", por eso he tenido que borrar algunas de las que subiste. Siento las molestias, un saludo. --] 19:29, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC) | |||
==Spam== | |||
No, I think "counteracting" it only legitimizes it. Man, this is so unwiki. We're supposed to reach consensus, not campaign and make targeted spams. --]|] 21:04, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
*I was discussing the same with Tony, and I just wanted to point out that admins tend to take every single vote into account, even if it was seemingly a result of vote stack spam. I realize this doesn't feel quite right, but I can't think of a feasible solution since the votes ''are'' cast by legit 'Pedians. Yours, ]]] 12:28, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC) | |||
== IfD == | |||
Hello, | |||
Have read your message (excuse me I'm a bit tired it's soon midnight in France). OK, I saw the bug was fixed, then my vote is a vote to keep the image. Thank you for your message on my French User Page which was appreciated. | |||
] . 21:36, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
==IfD vote was 65/48, no consensus== | |||
Phew! See you again next month, same venue. :) --]|] 17:31, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
:Hi, sorry, I just got your message. I'm in the middle of a move, so I haven't been on much, and I haven't had time to deal with the cleanup tasks that I had previously taken over. Anyway, thanks for taking care of it. – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 13:46, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC) | |||
==you're welcome== | |||
You're quite welcome indeed! The way things are going tonight, someone might even have to do it for me. Happy editing, ] 05:09, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
== re: Thanks == | |||
N/P, it just gives me something to do. --] | ] 05:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
*idk, i think so, just a metter of finding some one willing to do it. --] | ] 05:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
Your user page is temporarily protected. -- ] 08:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
== Im Back == | |||
Hi Tim I figured I'd come back after my self imposed exile (I'll honestly try not to fight on articles I feel disturbed by)--] 04:43, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
:How about If I move the drawing down? It's down that way in the ] article--] 04:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
::Ok. Also I noted the IFD on that picture (that caused me to throw up); I figured I'd abstain from voting--] 04:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
==Fair use== | |||
Fair use depends on the use. If it's being used to describe the specific incident depicted, it should be fine. If it's being used as a general article, I'm not sure. No lawyers in the hizzy. --] (]) 22:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
By the way, I think fair use requires the source to be credited. --] (]) 22:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
== Republican party article == | |||
Hi Limeheadnyc. ] is simply wrong about the paragraph being inaccurate or negative and I still believe that the paragraph should be in the article to highlight GOP beliefs. I can assure you that my own personal views have nothing to do with wanting it to stay. However, I think that ] is being completely partisan. -- ] 01:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
== Thanks == | |||
Thanks mate. --] | ] 04:42, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
*Yeah i noticed that a bit back, just waiting for one of socks to pop up, just a matter of time. --] | ] 05:12, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
*Personaly, i can't see it being a problem, i figure if someone had a problem with it something would have been said by now. --] | ] 05:42, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
==]== | |||
Ullo. Looks like Luke's bowlderizing page for the Oral sex article (the one that shows the article without pictures) has been successfully VfD'd. He has reacted to that by linking the image, which seems rather mean to me. --]|] 10:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
:I didn't create the "bowlderized" page, and will stand for a sockpuppet check with ] to satisfy Tony's overactive imagination. ] ] 10:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
I apologise for assuming that Luke created the article now seemingly headed for deletion. It doesn't alter the fact that he's using this as an excuse to change the parent page. --]|] 10:41, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
==?????== | |||
who the hell are you? {{vandal|66.74.179.23}} | |||
:I'm ], mofo. ] ] 20:00, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
== Ok, Ok == | |||
:I confess I wasn't acting in good faith, honestly though I'm trying to avoid that page because I know i'll get into an edit war if start making "slight changes" with the drawing.--] 02:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
== Smashing Pumpkins == | |||
Being a die hard fan and stumbling across your user page, maybe we could work together to get it to Featured Article status. ] 22:04, July 24, 2005 (UTC) | |||
==Classic Rock== | |||
Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most liked classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! {{User:Rentastrawberry/Signature}} 02:59, 30 November 2005 (UTC) | |||
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Thanks... rewrote badly
Thank you Timbo. I *did* lose my comment, and was very upset about it. I rewrote something not as good and posted that. I'll stick with what I posted, but I do thank you for your quick intervention. High regards, BradGad (Talk) 06:52, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Me too! (Off topic)
Hi again Timbo,
I was making great strides as a scholar at UVa -- completed all coursework; passed orals; dissertation 1/3 done ... then I decided a divorce would be way more fun and profitable. Turned out I was wrong.
You have a good page. Thanks again for the help.
Regards, BradGad (Talk) 07:04, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Re: Invalid VFD Thanks
Originally posted to User_talk:ClockworkSoul
Hi ClockworkSoul, thanks for at least agreeing with me about the VFD vote :). I really don't think the image is only used for shock value, but I can't convince everyone! Cheers, TIMBO (T A L K) 06:52, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Heya Timbo. The way I see it, if I have to be underhanded to prove my point, then my point obviously isn't very strong to begin with. In pursuit of that, I try to be sure that I care more about being honest than right. My wife hated that about me during the presidential elections. ;) – ClockworkSoul 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Fair use
En Misplaced Pages en español no se admite la subida de imágenes "fair use", por eso he tenido que borrar algunas de las que subiste. Siento las molestias, un saludo. --Comae 19:29, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Spam
No, I think "counteracting" it only legitimizes it. Man, this is so unwiki. We're supposed to reach consensus, not campaign and make targeted spams. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 21:04, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I was discussing the same with Tony, and I just wanted to point out that admins tend to take every single vote into account, even if it was seemingly a result of vote stack spam. I realize this doesn't feel quite right, but I can't think of a feasible solution since the votes are cast by legit 'Pedians. Yours, Radiant_* 12:28, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
IfD
Hello,
Have read your message (excuse me I'm a bit tired it's soon midnight in France). OK, I saw the bug was fixed, then my vote is a vote to keep the image. Thank you for your message on my French User Page which was appreciated.
Pabix ܀. 21:36, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
IfD vote was 65/48, no consensus
Phew! See you again next month, same venue. :) --Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:31, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry, I just got your message. I'm in the middle of a move, so I haven't been on much, and I haven't had time to deal with the cleanup tasks that I had previously taken over. Anyway, thanks for taking care of it. – Quadell 13:46, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
you're welcome
You're quite welcome indeed! The way things are going tonight, someone might even have to do it for me. Happy editing, Antandrus 05:09, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
re: Thanks
N/P, it just gives me something to do. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 05:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- idk, i think so, just a metter of finding some one willing to do it. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 05:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Your user page is temporarily protected. -- Curps 08:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Im Back
Hi Tim I figured I'd come back after my self imposed exile (I'll honestly try not to fight on articles I feel disturbed by)--198 04:43, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- How about If I move the drawing down? It's down that way in the Oral sex article--198 04:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Ok. Also I noted the IFD on that picture (that caused me to throw up); I figured I'd abstain from voting--198 04:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Fair use
Fair use depends on the use. If it's being used to describe the specific incident depicted, it should be fine. If it's being used as a general article, I'm not sure. No lawyers in the hizzy. --SPUI (talk) 22:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
By the way, I think fair use requires the source to be credited. --SPUI (talk) 22:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Republican party article
Hi Limeheadnyc. User:Lagavulin is simply wrong about the paragraph being inaccurate or negative and I still believe that the paragraph should be in the article to highlight GOP beliefs. I can assure you that my own personal views have nothing to do with wanting it to stay. However, I think that Lagavulin is being completely partisan. -- Old Right 01:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks mate. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 04:42, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah i noticed that a bit back, just waiting for one of socks to pop up, just a matter of time. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 05:12, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Personaly, i can't see it being a problem, i figure if someone had a problem with it something would have been said by now. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 05:42, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Oral sex
Ullo. Looks like Luke's bowlderizing page for the Oral sex article (the one that shows the article without pictures) has been successfully VfD'd. He has reacted to that by linking the image, which seems rather mean to me. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 10:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I didn't create the "bowlderized" page, and will stand for a sockpuppet check with User:Chakravyuh to satisfy Tony's overactive imagination. Cool Hand Luke 10:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I apologise for assuming that Luke created the article now seemingly headed for deletion. It doesn't alter the fact that he's using this as an excuse to change the parent page. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 10:41, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
?????
who the hell are you? 66.74.179.23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Ok, Ok
- I confess I wasn't acting in good faith, honestly though I'm trying to avoid that page because I know i'll get into an edit war if start making "slight changes" with the drawing.--198 02:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Smashing Pumpkins
Being a die hard fan and stumbling across your user page, maybe we could work together to get it to Featured Article status. Jobe6 22:04, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
Classic Rock
Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most liked classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! RENTASTRAWBERRY röck 02:59, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion of ESP Guitars
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