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This weekend, supporters of homeopathy are celebrating the 250th anniversary of the birth of Samuel Hahnemann |
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*Given the short nature of this article, as part of a series on famous people in CAM, I have to question that almost half of the article is spent on two rather unimportant issues related to his life's work - namely the reference to Dr. Quinn (why not mention all the others who started a hospital or introduced Hahnemann's system into their country?) and the reference to quarantine. What about some major contributions, such as that he was one of the first to talk about hygiene, the value of fresh air, sunshine, etc., that he fought for the purity of medicines in an age of adulteration, leading homeopaths everywhere to fight for better medical standards, such that in the US and Canada, for example, the homeopaths formed the first medical associations, which the AMA was formed to combat, or that he was a famous chemist and medical translator, his texts used throughout Germany, that he treated royalty, a tradition that continues with the British and Dutch royal families to this day? He was also a strong opponent of "heroic measures" drawing medicines attention back to the Hippocratic nil nocere. |
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Does anyone else feel this article really does Dr. Hahnemann a disservice? --] 02:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC) |
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: no not anymore, it has been improved in the past year a lot I can see from the history list ] 16:00, 3 February 2007 (UTC) |
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* Is it correct to call him Saxon? The page on ] shows that he was born in The Holy Roman Empire, and this page shows he died in France. Can we better call him Holy Roman/Saxon/French Herr Dr Hahnemann? -- ] 02:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC) |
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== Biography == |
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I have added considerable biographical information, which ] has deleted. Is there some reason why Hahnemann's biography should not be included in an article about him? I am restoring the information. ] 21:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC) |
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20101021000237/http://www.minimum.com/reviews/organon-sixth.htm to http://www.minimum.com/reviews/organon-sixth.htm |
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080517061612/http://www.hpathy.com/materiamedica/hahnemann-materia-pura/index.asp to http://www.hpathy.com/materiamedica/hahnemann-materia-pura/index.asp |
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120402112637/http://www.library.ucsf.edu/collections/homeopathy to http://www.library.ucsf.edu/collections/homeopathy |
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: While the description of his work and the bibliography are splendid, the biography is woefully incomplete (cf. the German wiki, with a |
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clear separation of the various stations of his life).] 23:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Bibliography == |
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I do not understand the two sub headlines which say "Other works cont´d", please explain what this means, thank you. (I am Pernambuco and I have made many edits to the ] article. ) ] 01:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 05:51, 7 December 2017 (UTC) |
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==request from the ] page == |
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I am involved in a cleaning up process of the article ] but it is a lot of work, I could use help from others, if someone wants to help just go there, and I am also active on the Talks page with the user "Debbe" (a wiki-pedia friend of mine who helps there) so thank you in advance for your help with fixing that page ] 21:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC) |
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* Haehl, Richard (1873-1932). Samuel Hahnemann : his life and work. |
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== Reputation as a scientist == |
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** translated by Mary L. Wheeler & W. H. R Grundy |
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** edited by John Henry Clarke (1852-1931) & F. J. Wheeler |
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** vol 1 https://archive.org/details/b29001742_0001 |
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** vol 2 (Supplements) https://archive.org/details/b29001742_0002 |
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--] (]) 20:02, 24 April 2022 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2023 == |
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Does this need to be so lengthy? It really has an air of desperately trying to ''prove'' Hahnemann's worth, and could really be about a third of the length without losing much actual information. It is skating over the edge of NPOV, in my opinion. It's even more ironic that that bumf leaves out one of Hahnemann's non-homeopathic achievements - that of discovering a test for arsenic that is still in use today. I'll add the bit about the arsenic test, and see if anyone has comments about the other glurge in the next month or so before I think of a way to edit to something resembling objective fact. ] 11:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC) |
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: yes, I agree, and this is a problem that we have with other homeopathic related articles too, I am working on improving ] in this regards, so if you want to help I say thank you to you ] 13:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC) |
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Change "pseudoscientific system of alternative medicine called homeopathy" to "scientific system of alternative medicine called homoeopathy" ] (]) 10:35, 21 March 2023 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Nah. See ] ] (]) 10:58, 21 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2023 == |
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:: Ditto. I'm going to take a shot at condensing that section down a lot, it isn't really that relevant. ] 22:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::: Alright, I took a shot. I hope I haven't been overly harsh, but there really wasn't much there to salvage. The giant list of works he'd translated was not relevant at all, and the bit before that was just constant gushing praise, all from the one source. I kept the bit about the ], since that seems to be verifiable and concrete. ] 22:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC) |
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word ' psuedoscience' should be replaced by 'alternative science of therapeutics' ] (]) 10:25, 28 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> ] and ] establish that pseudosciene can and should be labelled as such. ] (]) 11:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC) |
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: Facts are facts, ] are just plain falsehoods. There is science, and anything that pretends to be science but isn't is not "alternative science". It's just plain pseudoscience, quackery, mumbo jumbo, and it can kill. -- ] (]) (''''']''''') 20:16, 28 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::How many people have died from homeopathy? Citations? Define "mumbo jumbo". Is that a scientific term? ] (]) 21:06, 2 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::How many exactly is unknown, but this website collects cases: . Another harm is that believing in it seems to increase people's gullibility. |
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:::It is consensus within science that homeopathy is very much pseudoscience. |
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:::This page is ]. It is for improving the article. Since WP rules say that reliable sources beat your own opinion, you have nothing useful to contribute here. --] (]) 06:25, 3 August 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2023 == |
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change pseudoscientific to scientific ] (]) 09:48, 11 November 2023 (UTC) |
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