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== Julio Iglesias == | ||
| Please Celine's figures are up to 250 million confirmed by multiple reliable sources, she also sold 50 million albums only in Europe, so how is she at only 200 million? ] (]) 22:08, 16 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :Did you read the ''Definitions'' on the main page where it says 1)''This list uses claimed figures that are closest to artists' available certified units: inflated claimed figures that meet the required certified units amount but are unrealistically high, are not used.'' 2)The claimed figures are upgraded only when there is a significant progress in artists' certified units. In other words, the available certified units for each artist should get relatively closer to already listed claimed figure in order for higher figures to replace the listed ones.--] (]) 22:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| First off the certified units are not even updated, you can see any celine dion record sales analysis and the figure is up to even more than 250m, that was the first published and most reliable source of Celine Dion sales, it was reported by their label, inflated sales are really the one that losts of artists have here like Rihanna, when its clear that Celine Dion is the second best-selling female artist of all time after Madonna, it's a fact, there's no sense in putting Mariah or Whitney above her cause its well known that she's best seller out of the 3. ] (]) 00:19, 17 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :The certified sales for Celine Dion are actually up to date. Just because reliable sources or record labels claim such inflated figures as the 250 million is, it doesn't Celine Dion's her records (albums, singles, videos) have sold that much combined. I have her detailed certified sales which you can go over . And based on her available certified sales, the 200 million figure at the moment is the highest number we can work with.--] (]) 00:37, 17 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::The certified sales for Celine Dion are not up to date. She is eligible for 100m (26m songs+72M albums+around 2M DVDs) units in the US alone. Her certified sales are currently at 61.5m units in the US. If her catalog was certified properly, her total certified sales would be around 175M units. But as long as this list is based on the available certification, Celine’s 250m figure would be still inflated. ] (]) 14:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| You're so hypocritical to your statement, then why you removed Ariana's 90 million claim who has certified more than 130 million and 90 comes closer to that claim. ] (]) 21:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :First I suggest you to remain ], second your source The Gamer isn't a reliable source for us to replace a more reliable one with that. As for the new artists like Ariana Grande, you should refer to the ''Definitions'' where it clearly states ''The certified units of the newer artists may sometimes be higher than their listed claimed figures. This is because Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and almost all other certifying bodies count streaming towards Gold and Platinum thresholds required for Digital Single Award certification.'' However replacing current 85 million with 90 million would be ok if there is a reliable source, since the difference is only 5 million.--] (]) 22:19, 19 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Literally a whole other editors have been calling me that dumb and bitch, and i've never seen an editor telling them to remain civil. The gamer is a reliable source, its a game news operated by korea naver, Ariana got her own fornite concert so it was mostly to a press release, so it can be consider 95% reliable. ] (]) 04:35, 23 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Also Ariana Grande "85 million" claim came from her usa certified sales, she has sold 85.5 million copies in the united states and there you go here calling it "worlwide" everywhere in wikipedia, 85 million was made up by an user and since then a lot sources started putting in articles cause they got from here, so unless a label report then we can put it here or in her wikipedia. ] (]) 04:38, 23 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::"85 million was made up by an user" and that user is ME. Do you have any problem with that?. You shoud be grateful I make Ariana Grande join the list. She will never be on the list, if not because of me. ] (]) 14:04, 25 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :The Gamer may be a reliable source for games, it's certainly not for records sales. As for her US sales, her US certified sales are 87 million, which is streaming generated, meaning she may or may not have sold 50 million records (albums, singles) in the US. ] (]) 12:19, 23 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| == Bee Gees career sales == | |||
| Hey Harout. I saw some figures for their career sales at 200 million by reliable sources. How many certified sales do they need for their claimed sales to increase? Thank you. ] (]) 09:12, 19 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| == Bruce Springsteen > U2 == | |||
| The picture of Bruce should be put above the U2 one, as the chart says ] (]) 12:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| The values on Julio Iglesias '''are not even close to be correct'''. The values are '''wrong with over 150 million''' in both certified and claimed values. '''The source referenced in this article does not say anything about records sales at all'''. Almost all souces states that it is claimed that Julio has sold over 300 million records (for example the official Julio Iglesias website) which means the 150 million stated in this article is very wrong and cannot be backed up by any reliable source. And the certified sales is also just plain wrong. A simple google search shows that julio has much much more than 51.7 million sales. For example according to "JULIO IGLESIAS album sales" from the bestsellingalbums.org Julio has sold over 220 million records worldwide which is ceritified. Thats a '''326% increase''' and '''wrong with about 168 million records''', so the '''values in this article is extremely wrong'''. Julio also got a guiness world record for most sold latin artist of all time, where it is stated that he has sold 250 million records. Julio sold most of his records in the 70-90s which means the values in this arcticle has never been close to being correct'''. The claimed record sales should be changed to 300 million and the total certified units should be changed to 220 million +. I cannot change in this article so maybe someone else can help. Thanks''' ] (]) 14:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Why isn't the list based on certified sales, instead of claimed sales? == | |||
| ] (]) 07:25, 5 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :You are absolutely right. Just about all websites are indicative that yes, Julio Iglesias has sold over 300 million records worldwide. However in all fairness, this best selling listing directory is still a work in progress. Many contributors/wikipedians coupled with the fine editors of this article have been sorting out through how best to proceed in properly tabulating and formally adjusting the claimed sales of many entertainers, including but not limited to, Julio Iglesias. To reiterate, it's still a work in progress. In closing, updating the sales data of many of these artists is something that we are all striving for. Thank you for your contribution. ] (]) 18:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Lady Gaga == | |||
| ::Thank you for the great response. Have a nice day! And if someone who can change in this article and have the time to do so, go ahead and adjust the values. Regardless have a nice day you too! ] (]) 08:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == The Doors == | |||
| Gaga's 124m figure is outdated. Here is a source for 170m which her certs easily support: | |||
| '''I don't understand the reason, why the entry The Doors total sales in America, certified by the RIAA in the link below in the description of 47 million, then we should add the 600,000 of the sales of video albums, for a total of 47,600 is not corrected, instead it is always stopped at 42,850.''' | |||
| https://www.attitude.co.uk/article/lady-gaga-became-singer-after-multiple-failed-acting-auditions/19231/ ] (]) 18:57, 5 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?advance_search=1&tab_active=awards_by_artist&type_option=ST&type=all#search_section ] (]) 14:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Roberto Carlos == | |||
| == I really doubt Rihanna's sales == | |||
| The link for the Brazilian artiste ] on this page links to the ] rather than the singer. Can it be corrected? ] (]) 00:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| It can't be true. Faked. ] (]) 09:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :{{done}} ] (]) 00:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Green Day == | |||
| ::Danke ] (]) 00:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Some artists need to move up the ranking due to higher certified units. == | |||
| Harout. Any update from Green Day?. Thanks ] (]) 09:02, 18 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :Actually, they're still at with their certified sales, they need 54.6 million to get back on the list.--] (]) 12:55, 18 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Bon Jovi, Linkin Park, Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Usher, Nirvana, Green Day, Oasis. ] (]) 13:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Beatles's 600m (inflated) == | |||
| == Elvis correction == | |||
| Harout. I begin to think that their 600m claim sales look too much and inflated. I will remove their 600m claim and let them just have only 500m claim for their sales. Thanks ] (]) 06:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :I still want to wait and see what RIAA's certifications for their singles in digital format will bring in. The RIAA hasn't issued any certs for their singles in digital format, and they would not necessarily be entirely streaming generated, they'd be retroactively issued certs. Besides, the 600 million figure is the one that's supported by reliable sources at the moment, the 500 million is supported by Daily Express, which is a tabloid. Are there reliable sources for the 500 million also?--] (]) 12:37, 19 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::I put Daily Express only for temporary, at least it's a newspaper not a pop culture or a humour magazine. Once I found the better one, I will replace it immediately. Let's see if a newspaper like Times or Herald come with 500m Sales of The Beatles and there is no progress in their certified Sales. We should not used their 600m in the list. ] (]) 14:59, 19 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :I agree. Surely if you think the Beatles are inflated, which I do as well by about 50 million, you must think Elvis is inflated as well, ] (]) 03:39, 20 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Elvis has sold more records than Michael Jackson. This error needs to be fixed. This is unacceptable ] (]) 16:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Iron Maiden sales are up to 100 million!!! == | |||
| :"I Don't sound like Nobody" Elvis Presley quote from 1953. And on the eve of Elvis Presley's 90th birthday being celebrated by millions tomorrow January 8th 2025; Let's examine Elvis Presley by the numbers. According to the Guinness Book of World Records he currently has 117 Gold albums 67 Platinum Albums and has surpassed The Beatles on Multiplatinum albums. They use to lead with 26, Presley now leads with 27 Multiplatinum albums. A correction needs to be made on the Multiplatinum albums echelon for Presley on his "Misplaced Pages Biographical Page"(See listing of Achievements). Nevertheless, these are the new numbers for RIAA albums. As for singles, Presley has 54 Gold 27 Platinum and 7 Multiplatinum singles. Overall, Presley has a combined total of 299 RIAA certificates. This is more than any other solo artist or group, given for United States sales alone. Presley, is by far ahead of the second place Beatles, who have a combined total of 121 RIAA certificates. Elvis Presley's worldwide totals are in excess of ONE BILLION RECORDS. In fact, Guinness World Records bestows the honor on Presley as the best selling solo artist of all time, to reiterate, with a billion estimated record sales. Moreover, and with these facts alone, you are correct. However, as I previously stated to other contributors who were unequivocally correct in addressing correction to issues pertaining to this best selling listing directory, this article is still a work in progress. We are trying to proceed by making the proper adjustments in sales tabulations to many other artists such Julio Iglesias, ABBA, Frank Sinatra, The Doors and countless others, not just with Presley. We are valiantly striving to achieve legitimacy without being nominated for deletion again. In closing, give us sometime; the contributors/Wikipedians and fine editors of this best selling listing directory are trying to sort out how best to proceed. Thank you for your input. ] (]) 00:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| So about Iron Maiden? They sold 100 million plus!!! With total sales up to 200 millions!!! Number of the Beast alone sold 20 millions!!! ] (]) 23:34, 20 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Julio Iglesias
The values on Julio Iglesias are not even close to be correct. The values are wrong with over 150 million in both certified and claimed values. The source referenced in this article does not say anything about records sales at all. Almost all souces states that it is claimed that Julio has sold over 300 million records (for example the official Julio Iglesias website) which means the 150 million stated in this article is very wrong and cannot be backed up by any reliable source. And the certified sales is also just plain wrong. A simple google search shows that julio has much much more than 51.7 million sales. For example according to "JULIO IGLESIAS album sales" from the bestsellingalbums.org Julio has sold over 220 million records worldwide which is ceritified. Thats a 326% increase and wrong with about 168 million records, so the values in this article is extremely wrong. Julio also got a guiness world record for most sold latin artist of all time, where it is stated that he has sold 250 million records. Julio sold most of his records in the 70-90s which means the values in this arcticle has never been close to being correct. The claimed record sales should be changed to 300 million and the total certified units should be changed to 220 million +. I cannot change in this article so maybe someone else can help. Thanks JannePotatis (talk) 14:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- You are absolutely right. Just about all websites are indicative that yes, Julio Iglesias has sold over 300 million records worldwide. However in all fairness, this best selling listing directory is still a work in progress. Many contributors/wikipedians coupled with the fine editors of this article have been sorting out through how best to proceed in properly tabulating and formally adjusting the claimed sales of many entertainers, including but not limited to, Julio Iglesias. To reiterate, it's still a work in progress. In closing, updating the sales data of many of these artists is something that we are all striving for. Thank you for your contribution. Victor0327 (talk) 18:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the great response. Have a nice day! And if someone who can change in this article and have the time to do so, go ahead and adjust the values. Regardless have a nice day you too! JannePotatis (talk) 08:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
The Doors
I don't understand the reason, why the entry The Doors total sales in America, certified by the RIAA in the link below in the description of 47 million, then we should add the 600,000 of the sales of video albums, for a total of 47,600 is not corrected, instead it is always stopped at 42,850. https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?advance_search=1&tab_active=awards_by_artist&type_option=ST&type=all#search_section 82.55.102.140 (talk) 14:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Roberto Carlos
The link for the Brazilian artiste Roberto Carlos on this page links to the footballer rather than the singer. Can it be corrected? OskarJacobsen (talk) 00:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Done Some artists need to move up the ranking due to higher certified units.
Bon Jovi, Linkin Park, Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Usher, Nirvana, Green Day, Oasis. ShiranuiAensland (talk) 13:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Elvis correction
Elvis has sold more records than Michael Jackson. This error needs to be fixed. This is unacceptable Mistag1958 (talk) 16:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- "I Don't sound like Nobody" Elvis Presley quote from 1953. And on the eve of Elvis Presley's 90th birthday being celebrated by millions tomorrow January 8th 2025; Let's examine Elvis Presley by the numbers. According to the Guinness Book of World Records he currently has 117 Gold albums 67 Platinum Albums and has surpassed The Beatles on Multiplatinum albums. They use to lead with 26, Presley now leads with 27 Multiplatinum albums. A correction needs to be made on the Multiplatinum albums echelon for Presley on his "Misplaced Pages Biographical Page"(See listing of Achievements). Nevertheless, these are the new numbers for RIAA albums. As for singles, Presley has 54 Gold 27 Platinum and 7 Multiplatinum singles. Overall, Presley has a combined total of 299 RIAA certificates. This is more than any other solo artist or group, given for United States sales alone. Presley, is by far ahead of the second place Beatles, who have a combined total of 121 RIAA certificates. Elvis Presley's worldwide totals are in excess of ONE BILLION RECORDS. In fact, Guinness World Records bestows the honor on Presley as the best selling solo artist of all time, to reiterate, with a billion estimated record sales. Moreover, and with these facts alone, you are correct. However, as I previously stated to other contributors who were unequivocally correct in addressing correction to issues pertaining to this best selling listing directory, this article is still a work in progress. We are trying to proceed by making the proper adjustments in sales tabulations to many other artists such Julio Iglesias, ABBA, Frank Sinatra, The Doors and countless others, not just with Presley. We are valiantly striving to achieve legitimacy without being nominated for deletion again. In closing, give us sometime; the contributors/Wikipedians and fine editors of this best selling listing directory are trying to sort out how best to proceed. Thank you for your input. Victor0327 (talk) 00:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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