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== Blocked as a sockpuppet == | ||
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:Dear, @] | |||
:I am writing to request an '''unblock of my account''' on Misplaced Pages. My account was recently blocked due to "''Sockpuppet''", but I believe that the block was unjustified and would like to explain my position. | |||
:Firstly, I would like to apologize for any actions or statements that may have violated Misplaced Pages's policies. The problem is I am both unaware of "Sockpuppet concept" and i have zero intention to do political edits. Also, i'd like to note i don't use these accounts for political needs. Beofore i get banned I wasn't even know what sockpuppet means. I understand that the use of multiple accounts can be a violation of Misplaced Pages's policies, and I want to assure you that I did not intend to deceive or manipulate the editing process in any way. I created the second account in order to point out Oghuric/Hunno-Bulgar languages. I thought user Beshoghur and Austronesier deleting my edits because they hated me. That's why I wanted to use another account. Still, Kamista is older than this so essentially i did not create account for edit. | |||
:Secondly, I would like to provide additional context and evidence that I believe may shed light on the situation. For instance, I've been editing Chuvash page for 1-2 years. It has still my contributions a lot. And they weren't bad. I'd like to do more. Most of my edits deleted because I banned but they were pretty academic and accurate. For instance, ] just deleted my edits even though it was better than older one. user Nishidani also deleted me edits in Khazars just because I banned. But there is no any single misleading in the page. If you remove my ban I'll revert these and probably be unactive for a very very long time if it's not forever. I see that my actions were misguided and not in keeping with Misplaced Pages's standards for transparency and accountability. I have reviewed Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines and am confident that I can make positive contributions to the website by removing by reverts and I'll go. | |||
:I never made an '''unblock request''' until now. Because I understood it was something about rules. And even though I'm not very well aware of them, I accepted this block. However, deleting my other accounts for editing contents is definetly unjust. It was for nothing. And I am here for unblock request for this account. Not because I'd like to do more edits but because I want to remove the meaningless reverts. | |||
:Have a nice day. | |||
: ] (]) 10:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
|decline = Given that you were still socking, during the pendency of this request, the block is clearly still necessary. ] (]) 23:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)}} | |||
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I would like to offer a sincere apology once again for my past actions involving sockpuppetry. As an individual who values the principles of academic integrity and transparency, I understand that my behavior was completely unacceptable and violated the trust that the community has placed in me. I guarantee that after some edits I will not use Misplaced Pages anymore for a very long time if it's not forever. | |||
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I fully understand that my actions were in direct violation of Misplaced Pages's policies, and I am committed to never engaging in such behavior again. Moving forward, I will abide by the highest standards of integrity and professionalism in all my interactions on this platform. If you give me a chance, you can check for my last edits for a week, then I will be inactive or dead. | |||
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I would like to express my deepest apologies to the Misplaced Pages community and pledge to regain your trust through my future actions. Thank you for your attention and understanding. I don't want to create new accounts, editing same thing. Right now I am "personally banned" as another admin told. | |||
== Editing wikipedia == | |||
"Instead of creating new accounts to edit, you need to successfully request an unblock first." | |||
You are editing a top class 4 article with virtually no prior experience as an editor. You are ignoring standard rules. | |||
*(a) If a source by a worldclass expert states something you personally disagree with, you are not entitled to revert it out because you personally disagree | |||
*(b) You should read the source, and, if you find other expert sources that contradict what it is quoted for, make an argument on the talk page. | |||
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*(d)Persist in what you are doing will lead to a report, and a suspension of your right to edit. So do the intelligent thing: lay out your argument on the talk page. ] (]) 20:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
: ] (]) 10:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
|decline=Procedurally declined. Please only make one request at a time. ] (]) 23:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)}}] (]) 11:28, 10 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
* Despite your {{tq|pledge to regain your trust through my future actions}}, I have just blocked {{checkuser|Hunogur}} as another attempt to evade your current block. At this point, I am not inclined to accept your unblock request. I would refer you to ] if you would like to be unblocked in the future. ] (]) 21:23, 12 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
My ancestors + reliable sources. Someone doing kangz in Khazar section. | |||
*:I've attempted to initiate communication with you over the course of several days, addressing request topics related to Chuvash Studies and Volgabulgari. Still, I've not received any response from you during this extended period. I suspect that if you weren't subject to a ban under the username "Hunogur," you may still not have provided a reply. I am even sure about that. No, I will not asking you anything. Decline my request and stop talking with me in my page. @] ] (]) 09:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
== O7 == | |||
"The subject tribes appear to have spoken varieties of Lir Turkic likely related to the Oghuric branch or Chuvash/Volga-Bulgarian." | |||
{{unblock|{{unblock reviewed |1= ] (regarding your decline reason) The problem is, I didn't know what "socking" or "sockpuppet" meant until I met him. I requested an unblock, but he ignored me for weeks. Then I created another account and edited something irrelevant to the page where I was blocked. He replied and said that he banned this account as well. Thanks for him to saving Misplaced Pages from vandals like me. First of all, you are accusing me of "socking," but my edits weren't biased, and I didn't edit the page where I was banned. I wasn't sure if I was personally banned until I got banned again. It seems that he will ban me no matter what I do. If I had known this, why would I edit pages that I had actively contributed to with my old account? Secondly, I really want to contribute to Misplaced Pages. If you look at the accounts I've been banned with, none of the contributions were disruptive or biased except maybe first ones but I apologized about them. I thought Beshogur deleting my edits because he didn't trust my account then I wanted to use other account. It's so stressful to talk about this issue.I won't be very active again, but I still want to legally contribute to Misplaced Pages, especially regarding Chuvash culture, language, and related pages. I also want to edit contents about ancient books. I made important edits to Chuvash and Bulgar pages. I want to do it more. If you decide to unblock me, you can watch my moves for months. I will not disappoint you. I apologize for all my mistakes, and now I'm requesting an unblock. |decline = You are blocked for ]. This was confirmed by a ]. That has nothing to do with bias. There is no excuse for evading your block. ] (]) 15:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)}} | |||
Now as a descendant of Volga Bulgars (Chuvash), i've some questions. First what is "Volga Bulgarian", it should have been Bulgar instead of Bulgarian. 2ndly, why "or"? Chuvash and Volga Bulgar is already proven oghuric languages. This slavic bulgarian dude doing kangz and i'm banned because i removed this bs as a new user? ] (]) 03:07, 25 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
::It is a fundamental principle of Misplaced Pages that whatever an editor may think of his cultural heritage, that must not interfere with what secondary sources written by experts in the field state. I am using the language given by Erdal in his long article on the Khazar language. These language are, by the way, poorly reported on Misplaced Pages because the technical literature is very intricate, so one either wades through the technical literature or stays silent. It is much more complex than even my edits suggest, and the passage you are meddling with still requires much work.] (]) 06:23, 25 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Why are Chuvash Studies and Hunoghur still banned if their edits have no connection to the reason for own block? If this is not solely about biased edits, then what is the justification for their continued suspension? Moreover, if the intention is to ban all accounts associated with my IP address, how can it be claimed that Misplaced Pages is a platform that upholds freedom of speech? Weird. |
Latest revision as of 20:00, 23 May 2023
Blocked as a sockpuppet
Misplaced Pages's technical logs indicate that this user account has been or may be used abusively as a sockpuppet of User:Kamista per the evidence presented at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Bulgaryani. It has been blocked indefinitely from editing to prevent abuse.Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.
If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you should review the guide to appealing blocks, and then appeal your block by adding the following text below this notice:
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. Note that anything you post in your unblock request will be public, so you may alternatively use the Unblock Ticket Request System to submit an appeal if it contains information that must be private.Administrators: Checkusers have access to confidential system logs not accessible by the public or by administrators due to the Wikimedia Foundation's privacy policy. You must not loosen or remove this block, or issue an IP block exemption, without consulting with a checkuser or the Arbitration Committee. Administrators who undo checkuser blocks without permission from a checkuser or the Arbitration Committee may be summarily desysopped. Mz7 (talk) 08:30, 1 May 2023 (UTC) This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).
Volgabulgari (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
- Dear, @Mz7
- I am writing to request an unblock of my account on Misplaced Pages. My account was recently blocked due to "Sockpuppet", but I believe that the block was unjustified and would like to explain my position.
- Firstly, I would like to apologize for any actions or statements that may have violated Misplaced Pages's policies. The problem is I am both unaware of "Sockpuppet concept" and i have zero intention to do political edits. Also, i'd like to note i don't use these accounts for political needs. Beofore i get banned I wasn't even know what sockpuppet means. I understand that the use of multiple accounts can be a violation of Misplaced Pages's policies, and I want to assure you that I did not intend to deceive or manipulate the editing process in any way. I created the second account in order to point out Oghuric/Hunno-Bulgar languages. I thought user Beshoghur and Austronesier deleting my edits because they hated me. That's why I wanted to use another account. Still, Kamista is older than this so essentially i did not create account for edit.
- Secondly, I would like to provide additional context and evidence that I believe may shed light on the situation. For instance, I've been editing Chuvash page for 1-2 years. It has still my contributions a lot. And they weren't bad. I'd like to do more. Most of my edits deleted because I banned but they were pretty academic and accurate. For instance, User:ActivelyDisinterested just deleted my edits even though it was better than older one. user Nishidani also deleted me edits in Khazars just because I banned. But there is no any single misleading in the page. Please look If you remove my ban I'll revert these and probably be unactive for a very very long time if it's not forever. I see that my actions were misguided and not in keeping with Misplaced Pages's standards for transparency and accountability. I have reviewed Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines and am confident that I can make positive contributions to the website by removing by reverts and I'll go.
- I never made an unblock request until now. Because I understood it was something about rules. And even though I'm not very well aware of them, I accepted this block. However, deleting my other accounts for editing contents is definetly unjust. It was for nothing. And I am here for unblock request for this account. Not because I'd like to do more edits but because I want to remove the meaningless reverts.
- Have a nice day.
- Volgabulgari (talk) 10:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Given that you were still socking, during the pendency of this request, the block is clearly still necessary. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- On Misplaced Pages, the term "sockpuppetry" refers to the misuse of multiple accounts. Thus, the term "sockpuppet" refers to an account that was created in violation of our policy on multiple accounts. While multiple accounts can have legitimate uses, it is against the rules to use multiple accounts in a way that makes it look like there are multiple people editing when really it is just one. Additionally, if you are blocked from Misplaced Pages because of something you did, it is against the rules to create a new account to continue editing—if you do so, any such accounts will be blocked, and all of their contributions may be summarily reverted (see Misplaced Pages:Blocking policy#Evasion and enforcement). Indeed, this particular block exists because your previous account Bulgaryani (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) was blocked on 26 April 2023, and that account was blocked because you appear to have been blocked while your were logged out, see Special:Contributions/159.146.14.0/24 (note: I am merely referencing this block log). Instead of creating new accounts to edit, you need to successfully request an unblock first. Mz7 (talk) 00:34, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
Request of an unblock
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).Volgabulgari (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
- Dear, @Mz7
I would like to offer a sincere apology once again for my past actions involving sockpuppetry. As an individual who values the principles of academic integrity and transparency, I understand that my behavior was completely unacceptable and violated the trust that the community has placed in me. I guarantee that after some edits I will not use Misplaced Pages anymore for a very long time if it's not forever.
In past days, I read sockpuppetry article in Misplaced Pages, I have not only deceived others, but also compromised the integrity of the content on this platform. I am deeply sorry for the harm and disruption that my actions may have caused to the community.
I fully understand that my actions were in direct violation of Misplaced Pages's policies, and I am committed to never engaging in such behavior again. Moving forward, I will abide by the highest standards of integrity and professionalism in all my interactions on this platform. If you give me a chance, you can check for my last edits for a week, then I will be inactive or dead.
I would like to express my deepest apologies to the Misplaced Pages community and pledge to regain your trust through my future actions. Thank you for your attention and understanding. I don't want to create new accounts, editing same thing. Right now I am "personally banned" as another admin told.
"Instead of creating new accounts to edit, you need to successfully request an unblock first."
Decline reason:
Procedurally declined. Please only make one request at a time. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Volgabulgari (talk) 11:28, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Despite your
pledge to regain your trust through my future actions
, I have just blocked Hunogur (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) as another attempt to evade your current block. At this point, I am not inclined to accept your unblock request. I would refer you to Misplaced Pages:Standard offer if you would like to be unblocked in the future. Mz7 (talk) 21:23, 12 May 2023 (UTC)- I've attempted to initiate communication with you over the course of several days, addressing request topics related to Chuvash Studies and Volgabulgari. Still, I've not received any response from you during this extended period. I suspect that if you weren't subject to a ban under the username "Hunogur," you may still not have provided a reply. I am even sure about that. No, I will not asking you anything. Decline my request and stop talking with me in my page. @Mz7 Volgabulgari (talk) 09:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
O7
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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).Volgabulgari (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Sir_Sputnik (regarding your decline reason) The problem is, I didn't know what "socking" or "sockpuppet" meant until I met him. I requested an unblock, but he ignored me for weeks. Then I created another account and edited something irrelevant to the page where I was blocked. He replied and said that he banned this account as well. Thanks for him to saving Misplaced Pages from vandals like me. First of all, you are accusing me of "socking," but my edits weren't biased, and I didn't edit the page where I was banned. I wasn't sure if I was personally banned until I got banned again. It seems that he will ban me no matter what I do. If I had known this, why would I edit pages that I had actively contributed to with my old account? Secondly, I really want to contribute to Misplaced Pages. If you look at the accounts I've been banned with, none of the contributions were disruptive or biased except maybe first ones but I apologized about them. I thought Beshogur deleting my edits because he didn't trust my account then I wanted to use other account. It's so stressful to talk about this issue.I won't be very active again, but I still want to legally contribute to Misplaced Pages, especially regarding Chuvash culture, language, and related pages. I also want to edit contents about ancient books. I made important edits to Chuvash and Bulgar pages. I want to do it more. If you decide to unblock me, you can watch my moves for months. I will not disappoint you. I apologize for all my mistakes, and now I'm requesting an unblock.
Decline reason:
You are blocked for abusing multiple accounts. This was confirmed by a WP:check user. That has nothing to do with bias. There is no excuse for evading your block. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
-- Deepfriedokra Why are Chuvash Studies and Hunoghur still banned if their edits have no connection to the reason for own block? If this is not solely about biased edits, then what is the justification for their continued suspension? Moreover, if the intention is to ban all accounts associated with my IP address, how can it be claimed that Misplaced Pages is a platform that upholds freedom of speech? Weird.