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| *'''Delete''' - I was going to immediately suggest Redirecting this to ], but then I realized that the actual title doesn't even make much sense for the Redirect, as the country isn't ''part'' of Oz. Regardless, this should not be a stand alone article, as there is not a single source included in the article, and searching for sources turns up no actual significant coverage of it in reliable sources. I have to say my favorite part of the article is the fact that it includes a picture of a map that the land is not even on, with the caption that it ''should'' be on there - I got a chuckle out of that. ] (]) 19:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' - I was going to immediately suggest Redirecting this to ], but then I realized that the actual title doesn't even make much sense for the Redirect, as the country isn't ''part'' of Oz. Regardless, this should not be a stand alone article, as there is not a single source included in the article, and searching for sources turns up no actual significant coverage of it in reliable sources. I have to say my favorite part of the article is the fact that it includes a picture of a map that the land is not even on, with the caption that it ''should'' be on there - I got a chuckle out of that. ] (]) 19:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Keep''' or '''merge''' with '']''. To the closer if the outcome is either merge or delete, I ask that you transfer the description of Mo to that page in the spirit of ] even if you have to establish a settings section for it. --] (]) 19:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC) | * '''Keep''' or '''merge''' with '']''. To the closer if the outcome is either merge or delete, I ask that you transfer the description of Mo to that page in the spirit of ] even if you have to establish a settings section for it. --] (]) 19:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Keep''' notable subject. WP:ATD ] (]) 02:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC) | *<s>'''Keep''' notable subject. WP:ATD ] (]) 02:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)</s> | ||
| :*'''Comment''' - ] is not a valid argument in AFDs, particularly for articles that don't have a single source actually backing up any claim of being a notable subject. ] (]) 02:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC) | :*'''Comment''' - ] is not a valid argument in AFDs, particularly for articles that don't have a single source actually backing up any claim of being a notable subject. ] (]) 02:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
| :::'''Redirect''' to ] {{ping|Rorshacma}} You are probably right it was the kid in me that IARd, it is likely better redirected to the novel. The novel has much more relevance, ] ]. Some sources do exist, but it would be a stretch of our notability guideline to piece them together for this fictional land. It is certainly not as notable as the ]'s other fictional ]. ] (]) 04:03, 30 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''' or very light merge to ] as something like a "neighboring countries" section. The topic does not appear to need a standalone article without some reliable sources stating its real world importance. ] (]) 12:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' or very light merge to ] as something like a "neighboring countries" section. The topic does not appear to need a standalone article without some reliable sources stating its real world importance. ] (]) 12:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Redirect''' to ] or ]. Noting to merge (unreferenced), zero apparent notability. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 09:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Redirect''' to ] or ]. I found no evidence that would support a case for the subject retaining its own page. ] (]) 11:09, 3 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Redirect''' to ]. I don't think ] is a good target, because there's almost nothing in that article to educate a reader seeking information about the redirect topic. I am sympathetic to {{u|Rorshacma}}'s argument, but I think that "(Oz)" as a disambiguation is really referring to that universe in general, and not just the borders of the pretend nation. As the article is completely unsourced, I would be against a merge unless reliable sources are added in support. ] <sub>(] / ])</sub> 23:52, 3 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
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The result was redirect to The Magical Monarch of Mo. Sandstein 12:57, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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No WP:SIGCOV to meet Misplaced Pages's WP:NOTABILITY guideline. There are trivial mentions, but nothing to build an article that is WP:NOT just plot details. Cannot be improved because there is no significant coverage in reliable independent secondary sources that can provide out-of-universe context. Jontesta (talk) 18:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - I was going to immediately suggest Redirecting this to The Magical Monarch of Mo, but then I realized that the actual title doesn't even make much sense for the Redirect, as the country isn't part of Oz. Regardless, this should not be a stand alone article, as there is not a single source included in the article, and searching for sources turns up no actual significant coverage of it in reliable sources. I have to say my favorite part of the article is the fact that it includes a picture of a map that the land is not even on, with the caption that it should be on there - I got a chuckle out of that. Rorshacma (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep or merge with The Magical Monarch of Mo. To the closer if the outcome is either merge or delete, I ask that you transfer the description of Mo to that page in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE even if you have to establish a settings section for it. --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Keep notable subject. WP:ATD Lightburst (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - WP:ITSNOTABLE is not a valid argument in AFDs, particularly for articles that don't have a single source actually backing up any claim of being a notable subject. Rorshacma (talk) 02:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Magical Monarch of Mo @Rorshacma: You are probably right it was the kid in me that IARd, it is likely better redirected to the novel. The novel has much more relevance, File:Princess Truella on a stork - Project Gutenberg eText 16529.jpg File:King Mo fights the Purple Dragon - Project Gutenberg eText 16259.jpg. Some sources do exist, but it would be a stretch of our notability guideline to piece them together for this fictional land. It is certainly not as notable as the Frank Baum's other fictional Land of Oz. Lightburst (talk) 04:03, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or very light merge to Land of Oz#Geography as something like a "neighboring countries" section. The topic does not appear to need a standalone article without some reliable sources stating its real world importance. TTN (talk) 12:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Magical Monarch of Mo or Land of Oz#Geography. Noting to merge (unreferenced), zero apparent notability. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Magical Monarch of Mo or Land of Oz#Geography. I found no evidence that would support a case for the subject retaining its own page. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:09, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Magical Monarch of Mo. I don't think Land of Oz#Geography is a good target, because there's almost nothing in that article to educate a reader seeking information about the redirect topic. I am sympathetic to Rorshacma's argument, but I think that "(Oz)" as a disambiguation is really referring to that universe in general, and not just the borders of the pretend nation. As the article is completely unsourced, I would be against a merge unless reliable sources are added in support. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 23:52, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.