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* '''Support''' I strongly support the above. ] ] 17:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC) | * '''Support''' I strongly support the above. ] ] 17:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC) | ||
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:alredy have there own articles why not ]? ] (]) 00:16, 9 August 2022 (UTC)}} | |||
::{{u|Cabin134}} No one questioned the notability of the Florida article. In fact, editors actually believed all of them would eventually receive articles, but at the moment, there was not enough information specifically about Florida to give its own article. ] (]) 00:19, 9 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
::Looking at the New York and California article, I actually would suggest they be merged into this article/draftified for now because there is not enough information to warrant a separate article. ] (]) 00:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
*Noting: Cabin134 was blocked indef for disruptive editing, so I have struck their comment. ] (]) 15:06, 9 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Merger Proposal - New York/California == | |||
{{Discussion top|To '''merge''' the New York page and to draftify that for California; removal of duplication; context; short text. ] (]) 17:27, 10 April 2023 (UTC)}} | |||
I propose merging ] & ] into this article, similar to the recent Florida article merge as neither article has enough information for a sperate article. It was brought up in the previous merger proposal (for Florida) that sections can be created. ] (]) 00:26, 9 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
:New York has way more information but it just hasen't been added yet ] (]) 12:14, 9 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
::In that case, it either needs to be added within the next like day or two or be added once this is draftified. Just like the Florida article, a draft was created after the merge since no one questions the notability of the topic. ] (]) 12:17, 9 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
<s>:'''Oppose:''' I think that there is enough information in the New York article to warrant its own page, such as an updating table that includes data for the counties that have reported a case, and an updating map. Both are valuable and do not fit within the scope of the article for the nationwide outbreak. While I could consider lending support for the merger of the page for the California outbreak, I will not support the deletion of the New York outbreak page. ] (]) 19:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)</s> | |||
::{{u|Aplucas0703}} could you elaborate on why the New York article has enough for its own page. ] (3 sentences with 2 refs) & ] (A table with 1 source) is the only information in the article actually about New York. If you look at the ] (merged in the merger proposal directly above this one), it had twice the amount of information and 5 sources and it was merged for not having enough content to warrant its own article, so there is no reason why the New York article, which is smaller, has enough. ] (]) 22:09, 11 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
:'''Support both''' There is no need for separate articles at this point. I have redirected the CA page since there was almost zero California content. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:08, 1 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
::{{Strikethrough|I added more information to ] and you can help me expand it. ] (]) 14:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)}} | |||
::Blocked Sock. ] (]) 12:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|HiltonCalifornia}} Please participate in the discussion here since you have a strong objection to the previous bold redirect on the California article. ] (]) 14:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
*NOTE: The California article was ] draftified by myself since myself and two other editors are OK with a merge while one editor wants it in mainspace. The editor who wants it in mainspace even said "why it just needs some fixing?", which is even an admission it may not be ready (right now) for mainspace. Improvements can occur in draftspace. Discussion is now only about the New York article. ] (]) 02:40, 26 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Update for {{ping|Reywas92}} HiltonCalifornia has been blocked as a sock (Cabin134). Fun. ] (]) 12:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
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:For New York, {{merge done}} ] (]) 17:27, 10 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Rename proposal == | |||
See the discussion at ] and give your opinions ''there'' please. -- ]°] 10:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
:The article formerly at ] has now moved to ], a decision confirmed by a recent ]. There is now a ] at ] to move to ]. I suggest the same should apply here. Please go to the new RM discussion if you wish to contribute. ] (]) 11:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC) |
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Pox parties
I'm not an authority, but there are a few things that concern me regarding the transmissions of viruses. Where I'm from in Australia, it's not unheard of for people to advocate the spreading of diseases. Here's an example in the Journal of Medical Ethics, which unfortunately suggests it's a positive, rather than a threat to everyone else.
https://jme.bmj.com/content/44/4/257
I would like to include, in the article, the following advice:
""Additionally, in the United States, deliberately sending infectious matter through the U.S. Postal Service is illegal.""
I would also think it's appropriate to public condemn any belief that spreading diseases is acceptable, especially that Covid is such a fatal and harmful disease, we don't need any others. And the people suffering from monkeypox wouldn't want others catching it.
Sorry if this comment isn't helpful, you can delete it if you feel it's not relevant or in any way harmful. 49.185.83.245 (talk) 20:39, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Discussing the difference in total cases according to CDC.
According to the CDC's total cases here, it's listed as 113 as of now, but when you add all of the cases state by state together, it's 111 total cases. In the table listing cases state by state, I'm going to put 113 as the total just to be safe instead of 111. I do not know where the extra two cases are, probably in Puerto Rico or the American Somoa.
If the difference between total cases as what they list and what is actually appearing by adding all of the cases in states together continues, what do we do? --Peralien (talk) 16:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
New Hampshire
Add New Hampshire to the state's with confirmed cases. (WGME 13) 2601:186:4500:83A0:CC76:43AA:ABA2:8D06 (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Anyone want to help?
I want to write this page in Spanish and Portuguese for those in the United States that can't access medical treatment same as everyone else.
Any volunteer, it might take us an hour?
Thanks in advance, thanks for reading, have a nice day. 49.184.21.68 (talk) 09:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
CDC is presenting all of its invaluable experience in Español (Spanish) on their website, when the Misplaced Pages article pages get created, even if they are empty, I'll copy-paste the information.
I'm going to add the link to this page in the interim.
I hope you are all keeping safe, and doing well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.185.39.117 (talk) 19:02, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Wrong first case?
This article says the first case was in Boston on May 19, 2022. But this article says it was in Dallas on July 9, 2021 (diagnosed July 13). I get that the bigger news angle started with the British case this May, but is that reason enough to discount the possibility that America's lowkey spread started earlier? InedibleHulk (talk) 20:26, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Merger proposal
CLOSED Agree to merging of article(s) per CONSENSUS and SNOW. Proposer or other interested party should proceed with the merge. Non-Administrative closure-- GenQuest 01:22, 7 August 2022 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Formal request has been received to merge: 2022 monkeypox outbreak in Florida into 2022 monkeypox outbreak in the United States; dated: August 2022. Proposer's Rationale: the Florida-specific article copies the majority of the information from other monkeypox articles. I think that the Florida-specific information could be added as a new section in the US article, but I don't know that it needs to be its own separate article specific to Florida, at least for now. SparklingSnail. Discuss here. GenQuest 03:16, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support, I don't see a reason for a separate article for Florida at this point in time. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:24, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support per above. BattleshipMan (talk) 21:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support I think making sections for all states are better before making a article for all. 73.126.133.15 (talk) 23:07, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support per above. Redstilledits (talk) 01:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support I think making sections for all states are better before making a article for all. 73.126.133.15 (talk) 23:07, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support per above. In the end, there will probably be an article for each state (similar to how the COVID-19 articles are laid out), but at the moment, the current article does not have enough information to support a stand-alone article. Elijahandskip (talk) 23:09, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support per above. I think we will get articles for every state down the road, but there is just simply not enough information that relates specifically to Florida to warrant its own article at this time. aaronneallucas (talk) 05:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support I strongly support the above. Rebel 17:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
:I get it you want to make a section for all the states. but I feel like 2022 monkeypox outbreak in Florida is notable enough. for example
alredy have there own articles why not Florida? Cabin134 (talk) 00:16, 9 August 2022 (UTC)- Cabin134 No one questioned the notability of the Florida article. In fact, editors actually believed all of them would eventually receive articles, but at the moment, there was not enough information specifically about Florida to give its own article. Elijahandskip (talk) 00:19, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Looking at the New York and California article, I actually would suggest they be merged into this article/draftified for now because there is not enough information to warrant a separate article. Elijahandskip (talk) 00:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Noting: Cabin134 was blocked indef for disruptive editing, so I have struck their comment. Elijahandskip (talk) 15:06, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Merger Proposal - New York/California
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- To merge the New York page and to draftify that for California; removal of duplication; context; short text. Klbrain (talk) 17:27, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
I propose merging 2022 monkeypox outbreak in New York (state) & 2022 monkeypox outbreak in California into this article, similar to the recent Florida article merge as neither article has enough information for a sperate article. It was brought up in the previous merger proposal (for Florida) that sections can be created. Elijahandskip (talk) 00:26, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- New York has way more information but it just hasen't been added yet 2601:186:4500:83A0:E804:8754:D2A7:6405 (talk) 12:14, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- In that case, it either needs to be added within the next like day or two or be added once this is draftified. Just like the Florida article, a draft was created after the merge since no one questions the notability of the topic. Elijahandskip (talk) 12:17, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
:Oppose: I think that there is enough information in the New York article to warrant its own page, such as an updating table that includes data for the counties that have reported a case, and an updating map. Both are valuable and do not fit within the scope of the article for the nationwide outbreak. While I could consider lending support for the merger of the page for the California outbreak, I will not support the deletion of the New York outbreak page. aaronneallucas (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Aplucas0703 could you elaborate on why the New York article has enough for its own page. 2022 monkeypox outbreak in New York (state)#Timeline (3 sentences with 2 refs) & 2022 monkeypox outbreak in New York (state)#Cases by county (A table with 1 source) is the only information in the article actually about New York. If you look at the now merged Florida article] (merged in the merger proposal directly above this one), it had twice the amount of information and 5 sources and it was merged for not having enough content to warrant its own article, so there is no reason why the New York article, which is smaller, has enough. Elijahandskip (talk) 22:09, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support both There is no need for separate articles at this point. I have redirected the CA page since there was almost zero California content. Reywas92 18:08, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
I added more information to 2022 monkeypox outbreak in California and you can help me expand it. HiltonCalifornia (talk) 14:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)- Blocked Sock. Elijahandskip (talk) 12:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- @HiltonCalifornia: Please participate in the discussion here since you have a strong objection to the previous bold redirect on the California article. Elijahandskip (talk) 14:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- NOTE: The California article was WP:BOLD draftified by myself since myself and two other editors are OK with a merge while one editor wants it in mainspace. The editor who wants it in mainspace even said "why it just needs some fixing?", which is even an admission it may not be ready (right now) for mainspace. Improvements can occur in draftspace. Discussion is now only about the New York article. Elijahandskip (talk) 02:40, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Update for @Reywas92: HiltonCalifornia has been blocked as a sock (Cabin134). Fun. Elijahandskip (talk) 12:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- For New York, Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 17:27, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Rename proposal
See the discussion at Talk:Mpox#Related articles and give your opinions there please. -- Colin° 10:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- The article formerly at Monkeypox has now moved to Mpox, a decision confirmed by a recent requested move discussion. There is now a requested move discussion at 2022–2023 monkeypox outbreak to move to 2022–2023 mpox outbreak. I suggest the same should apply here. Please go to the new RM discussion if you wish to contribute. Bondegezou (talk) 11:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
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