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== Question regarding ClueBot == | ||
| Can I please see the source? (A github url for ClueBot) ? | |||
| I finally moved my manual archives to ClueBot the other day and I was feeling pretty proud of myself for getting it to work. However, it has conducted its first run of archiving and it seems to have disregarded my archiveprefix and broken its previous good work. Anyone can help or point me where I need to go? ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 14:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Is it being run on someone's PC or is it being run in the cloud? | |||
| :It's still not working right sadly. It ignores my archiveprefix and tries to archive to the wrong page. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 14:09, 7 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| I have more questions than I have answers coming to this page. | |||
| ::There are a couple of things I spotted. The first one, which I don't think is the reason, is the format parameter documentation reports a space in it like, '''format= %%i'''. The second is that you are hard coding your archive prefix to your main user page not your talk page. I would recommend trying '''<nowiki>archiveprefix={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archive</nowiki>''' as written in the documentation so that it automatically captures your talk page. Hope that helps. ] (]) 01:05, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :::Hi, I'm sorry, this isn't going to solve the problem. The issue is that I already have 54 talk page archive pages with the format ] so it's correct to those to have the %%i without a space and to have it be under my main User page, at least, it has been able to generate the index ]. But actually, the problem I have now is that the bot is creating the ] page almost like the archiveprefix is being ignored. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 01:08, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks ] (]) 12:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::OK, thanks for the clarification. I wonder if it is trying to prevent overriding of your already existing archive pages. Your start page number is 1, but maybe it should start at 55. ] (]) 01:13, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :@] the bot runs on Wikimedia Toolforge and its source code is . <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 13:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Hm, OK, I'll try that. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 01:24, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::That didn't work. The bot created ] ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 16:23, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Oh. Sorry that didn't work out. The code for the archive bot is a little beyond my ability to try and see where the issue is. I hope someone else is able to help narrow this down. Good luck. ] (]) 16:57, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Thanks for trying to help anyway. I'm asking if someone on AWB/Tasks with pagemover can mass move my old archives to the right form. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 17:00, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :If this solves the problem, we should update the documentation to note that only a subpage of the page being archived is valid for the archiveprefix. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 18:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::ClueBot III indeed only allows archiving to subpages. It's to prevent against people from copying the archival configuration template verbatim and ending up with two unrelated pages being archived to one set of archives. If it isn't a subpage, it'll pick the default <tt>{{subst|FULLPAGENAME}}/Archives/</tt>. This is touched on in the ] of <tt>archiveprefix</tt> ("This parameter must be set to a fully qualified page name '''under the page you wish to archive'''.") and later under the optional <tt>key</tt> parameter ("The value of this parameter must match an internally generated key in order for the archives to be stored anywhere other than as subpages of the page being archived."), but could definitely be better explained. Perhaps you'd like to have a go at ]? The <tt>key</tt> parameter was designed to support more complex archive setups for bigger noticeboards, but was never really used because generating a key has to be done by me or someone else with direct access to the running bot's process, and only really useful in extremely narrow use-cases. -- ]<sup>(]|]|])</sup> 23:50, 11 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Can I please see the source? (A github url for ClueBot) ? Is it being run on someone's PC or is it being run in the cloud? I have more questions than I have answers coming to this page.
Thanks Vidyagamerfromaus (talk) 12:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Vidyagamerfromaus the bot runs on Wikimedia Toolforge and its source code is here. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 13:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)