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| '''delete'''. Plenty of links, yeah. But do they qualify per ] and ]? No. — ] ] 15:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Notability? This article was most likely created by sock of banned user ], aka Joel Leyden, though checkuser proved inconclusive. Article links to Joel Leyden's personal website, the "Israel News Agency", as a source. Note that though linked to Hebrew wiki, there is in fact no article on the Hebrew wikipedia about Arnon Katz. A Google search for ארנון כץ in Hebrew seems to confirm that the gist of the article is more or less true; in fact, I would support an article about this person on the Hebrew wikipedia, if properly verified. But I'm not sure it belongs on the English wikipedia. I am uncomfortable with the fact that this reads like PR copy, and is not linked to from any other Misplaced Pages article. ] 17:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | Notability? This article was most likely created by sock of banned user ], aka Joel Leyden, though checkuser proved inconclusive. Article links to Joel Leyden's personal website, the "Israel News Agency", as a source. Note that though linked to Hebrew wiki, there is in fact no article on the Hebrew wikipedia about Arnon Katz. A Google search for ארנון כץ in Hebrew seems to confirm that the gist of the article is more or less true; in fact, I would support an article about this person on the Hebrew wikipedia, if properly verified. But I'm not sure it belongs on the English wikipedia. I am uncomfortable with the fact that this reads like PR copy, and is not linked to from any other Misplaced Pages article. ] 17:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Delete''' non-notable, note that there is no article on the hebrew wikipedia ] (]/]) 17:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | * '''Delete''' non-notable, note that there is no article on the hebrew wikipedia ] (]/]) 17:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Delete''' per WP:N and per thank you for your self-promotion ] 19:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | * '''Delete''' per WP:N and per thank you for your self-promotion ] 19:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| * Sure he's notable. He re-defined the term ''Zionism'' and is one of few people on earth who voluntarily pays taxes.--] 20:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC) <blockquote>Katz, who operates out of Cyprus, is an ardent Zionist who rather than finding a creative, legal loophole chose to pay Israeli tax authorities 25 percent of his revenue</blockquote> | * Sure he's notable. He re-defined the term ''Zionism'' and is one of few people on earth who voluntarily pays taxes.--] 20:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC) <blockquote>Katz, who operates out of Cyprus, is an ardent Zionist who rather than finding a creative, legal loophole chose to pay Israeli tax authorities 25 percent of his revenue</blockquote> | ||
| :edit to add: Someone seems to take it seriousely... <br /> | :edit to add: Someone seems to take it seriousely... <br /> | ||
| ***'''Comment:''' Not everybody reading this has time to stop, think, and interpret your sarcasm. You started with the words, "sure he's notable" and most will take you at face value. Not to mention that your style of formatting is a bit confusing, as though three different people responded. --] 06:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | ***'''Comment:''' Not everybody reading this has time to stop, think, and interpret your sarcasm. You started with the words, "sure he's notable" and most will take you at face value. Not to mention that your style of formatting is a bit confusing, as though three different people responded. --] 06:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Delete''' per all above, and voluntarily paying taxes does not assert notability. ]<sub>(])</sub> 20:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | * '''Delete''' per all above, and voluntarily paying taxes does not assert notability. ]<sub>(])</sub> 20:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Delete''' per WP:N —] ] 23:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | * '''Delete''' per WP:N —] ] 23:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Strong Keep''' 1. It is transparent that this article for deletion comes not from what is fact and noble, but has its origins in Wikipolitics. Woggly, as she states in her own words, associates this entry with user:Israelbeach and as such targets this article and anything associated with Joel Leyden or the Israel News Agency as sockpuppets or meatpuppets. Personal vendettas have no place on Misplaced Pages. 2. Woggly states that this article should be included in the Hebrew version of Misplaced Pages and I agree. But what Woggly misses here is that Arnon Katz resides in London and his mulit-million dollars ventures are international in nature. 3. ] links to Arnon Katz, so if we are to delete Arnon Katz, who founded Empire, we should also delete Empire Online. 4. Arnon Katz co-created the first commercial Website in Israel and then went on to develop online gaming on the Internet. That speaks of nobility, not politics. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 12:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --><small> This is Israelgeek's 5th edit to Misplaced Pages.-] 17:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)</small> | * '''Strong Keep''' 1. It is transparent that this article for deletion comes not from what is fact and noble, but has its origins in Wikipolitics. Woggly, as she states in her own words, associates this entry with user:Israelbeach and as such targets this article and anything associated with Joel Leyden or the Israel News Agency as sockpuppets or meatpuppets. Personal vendettas have no place on Misplaced Pages. 2. Woggly states that this article should be included in the Hebrew version of Misplaced Pages and I agree. But what Woggly misses here is that Arnon Katz resides in London and his mulit-million dollars ventures are international in nature. 3. ] links to Arnon Katz, so if we are to delete Arnon Katz, who founded Empire, we should also delete Empire Online. 4. Arnon Katz co-created the first commercial Website in Israel and then went on to develop online gaming on the Internet. That speaks of nobility, not politics. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 12:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --><small> This is Israelgeek's 5th edit to Misplaced Pages.-] 17:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)</small> | ||
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| * Delete, lacks reliable sources. --] 01:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | * Delete, lacks reliable sources. --] 01:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Keep''' Reliable sources = . Looking forward to seeing Arnon at ]. ] 12:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC) <small>This is Kinnernetgal's 7th edit to Misplaced Pages (comment added by ] 06:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC))</small> | * '''Keep''' Reliable sources = . Looking forward to seeing Arnon at ]. ] 12:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC) <small>This is Kinnernetgal's 7th edit to Misplaced Pages (comment added by ] 06:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC))</small> | ||
| ** '''Comment''' Yes, let's avoid ad hominem arguments - see what Kinnernetgal has to say, not how many edits he's made.--] 20:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| * '''Keep''' Just read about Misplaced Pages on Google News and joined. Will be attending the ] Internet conference in Israel. Looking forward to hearing Katz's seminar there. ] 14:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | * '''Keep''' Just read about Misplaced Pages on Google News and joined. Will be attending the ] Internet conference in Israel. Looking forward to hearing Katz's seminar there. ] 14:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| **Comment: Joel, please stop with the sockpuppets. It hasn't worked in the past, and it will not work this time. --] 14:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | **Comment: Joel, please stop with the sockpuppets. It hasn't worked in the past, and it will not work this time. --] 14:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ***Comment: Woggly, I don't know any Joel. But to meet a new comer here with a toxic dose of paranoia is not exactly what will attract people to Misplaced Pages. If you feel that I am a "sockpuppet" or "meatpuppet", please email me and we will talk. You owe me an apology. ] 15:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ****No, this time I'll just block you.--] 16:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| * '''Keep''' Plenty of links to prove that he is notable.--] 12:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| * '''Keep''' Looks clear-cut to me on the evidence provided in the article.--] 20:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| * '''Keep''' Notable both in Israel and abroad as evidenced by dozens of Israel and international Google links. ] 12:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Latest revision as of 07:52, 15 March 2023
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Plenty of links, yeah. But do they qualify per WP:RS and WP:V? No. — Nearly Headless Nick 15:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Arnon Katz
Notability? This article was most likely created by sock of banned user Israelbeach, aka Joel Leyden, though checkuser proved inconclusive. Article links to Joel Leyden's personal website, the "Israel News Agency", as a source. Note that though linked to Hebrew wiki, there is in fact no article on the Hebrew wikipedia about Arnon Katz. A Google search for ארנון כץ in Hebrew seems to confirm that the gist of the article is more or less true; in fact, I would support an article about this person on the Hebrew wikipedia, if properly verified. But I'm not sure it belongs on the English wikipedia. I am uncomfortable with the fact that this reads like PR copy, and is not linked to from any other Misplaced Pages article. woggly 17:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable, note that there is no article on the hebrew wikipedia Yonatan (contribs/talk) 17:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:N and per thank you for your self-promotion Alf 19:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sure he's notable. He re-defined the term Zionism and is one of few people on earth who voluntarily pays taxes.--Nitsansh 20:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Katz, who operates out of Cyprus, is an ardent Zionist who rather than finding a creative, legal loophole chose to pay Israeli tax authorities 25 percent of his revenue
- edit to add: Someone seems to take it seriousely...
- Comment: Not everybody reading this has time to stop, think, and interpret your sarcasm. You started with the words, "sure he's notable" and most will take you at face value. Not to mention that your style of formatting is a bit confusing, as though three different people responded. --woggly 06:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per all above, and voluntarily paying taxes does not assert notability. Nol888(Talk) 20:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:N —SaxTeacher (talk) 23:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Strong Keep 1. It is transparent that this article for deletion comes not from what is fact and noble, but has its origins in Wikipolitics. Woggly, as she states in her own words, associates this entry with user:Israelbeach and as such targets this article and anything associated with Joel Leyden or the Israel News Agency as sockpuppets or meatpuppets. Personal vendettas have no place on Misplaced Pages. 2. Woggly states that this article should be included in the Hebrew version of Misplaced Pages and I agree. But what Woggly misses here is that Arnon Katz resides in London and his mulit-million dollars ventures are international in nature. 3. Empire Online links to Arnon Katz, so if we are to delete Arnon Katz, who founded Empire, we should also delete Empire Online. 4. Arnon Katz co-created the first commercial Website in Israel and then went on to develop online gaming on the Internet. That speaks of nobility, not politics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Israelgeeks (talk • contribs) 12:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC). This is Israelgeek's 5th edit to Misplaced Pages.-woggly 17:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- On point 3: User contributions for Israelgeeks wrote: 11:48, 8 March 2007 (hist)(diff) Empire Online (added Arnon Katz as co-founder) (top) --Strangerer (Talk | Contribs) 21:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest that everyone avoid Ad hominem arguements.--Nitsansh 00:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- On point 3: User contributions for Israelgeeks wrote: 11:48, 8 March 2007 (hist)(diff) Empire Online (added Arnon Katz as co-founder) (top) --Strangerer (Talk | Contribs) 21:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, lacks reliable sources. --Michael Snow 01:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Reliable sources = Globes newspaper article. Looking forward to seeing Arnon at Kinnernet. Kinnernetgal 12:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC) This is Kinnernetgal's 7th edit to Misplaced Pages (comment added by woggly 06:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC))
- Comment Yes, let's avoid ad hominem arguments - see what Kinnernetgal has to say, not how many edits he's made.--Osidge 20:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Just read about Misplaced Pages on Google News and joined. Will be attending the Kinnernet Internet conference in Israel. Looking forward to hearing Katz's seminar there. Jerusalemgold 14:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: Joel, please stop with the sockpuppets. It hasn't worked in the past, and it will not work this time. --woggly 14:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: Woggly, I don't know any Joel. But to meet a new comer here with a toxic dose of paranoia is not exactly what will attract people to Misplaced Pages. If you feel that I am a "sockpuppet" or "meatpuppet", please email me and we will talk. You owe me an apology. Jerusalemgold 15:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, this time I'll just block you.--woggly 16:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: Woggly, I don't know any Joel. But to meet a new comer here with a toxic dose of paranoia is not exactly what will attract people to Misplaced Pages. If you feel that I am a "sockpuppet" or "meatpuppet", please email me and we will talk. You owe me an apology. Jerusalemgold 15:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: Joel, please stop with the sockpuppets. It hasn't worked in the past, and it will not work this time. --woggly 14:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Plenty of links to prove that he is notable.--Newport 12:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Looks clear-cut to me on the evidence provided in the article.--Osidge 20:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Notable both in Israel and abroad as evidenced by dozens of Israel and international Google links. Pinkrosegarden 12:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.