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Str1977, there is a debate at ] regarding the article name similar to other discussions you have been involved in. I wonder if you might want to put in your 2 cents. Thanks -- ] 23:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Thank you, my dear friend, for consenting to my posting of . I'm sure you'll get your reward in heaven, because I don't think you'll get much reward here! But I'm positive this was the right thing to do. Anyway, I e-mailed the Arbitration Committee, and I'll leave it with them. I hope you won't become the target of a lot of new abuse. Hopefully he'll see that a ''real'', "sinister Vatican agent" would be delighted at the thought of having him permabanned with no second (or third or fourth) chances. Anyway, there are ], and if it doesn't work out, I won't object to a reblocking. At least, such a reblocking would be as a result of what he chooses to do in full awareness of the consequences. The block extension isn't. I won't be around much for the next few days. ]] 10:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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==The ''Younger'' Saxony: The Duchy and the Electorate== | |||
] used since the accession of the ] to the dukedom in 1180, comprising the Ascanian arms with an added bendwise ] indicating the Saxon ducal rank]] | |||
The new dukes replaced the Saxon horse emblem (]) and introduced their Ascanian family colours and emblem (]) added by a bendwise crancelin, symbolising the Saxon ducal crown, as new coat-of-arms of Saxony (]). The later rulers of the ] adopted the Ascanian coat-of-arms. | |||
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:"Ideas that are not of use but true should not be discarded." | |||
====Partitions of Saxony under Ascanian rule==== | |||
:Per Peirce, I had taken it as axiomatic that truth is of use. Even in mathematics, we find that truths that are not known to be useful when they are discovered turn out later to be useful. For those universes (supposing that they can exist) in which my statement does not apply, I ''axiomatically'' withdraw it. However, I don't think ours to be among them. It is an unfortunate coincidence that my argument superficially parallels those of some atheists. They are correct, I believe, on this point, but wildly incorrect in thoughtlessly assuming that religion is of no use.] 10:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| colspan=4 style="background: #fff;" |'''Duchy of Saxony'''<br>(1180-1296) | |||
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| colspan=1 rowspan="3" style="background: #abc;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Wittenberg'''<br>(1296-1356) | |||
| colspan=4 style="background: #def;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Lauenburg'''<br>(1296-1303) | |||
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| colspan=1 style="background: #dde;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Mölln'''<br>(1303-1315) | |||
| colspan=2 style="background: #ffd;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Bergdorf-Lauenburg'''<br>(1303-1315) | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #eef;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Ratzeburg'''<br>(1303-1315) | |||
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| colspan=2 rowspan="2" style="background: #dde;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Bergdorf-Mölln'''<br>(1315-1401) | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan="2" style="background: #ffd;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg'''<br>(1315-1401) | |||
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| colspan=1 rowspan="2" style="background: #eee;" |'''Electorate of Saxe-Wittenberg'''<br>(1356-1422) | |||
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| colspan=4 rowspan="2" style="background: #def;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Lauenburg'''<br>(1401-1689) | |||
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The Ascanian Dynasty continued in Saxe-Lauenburg until 1689, but after the Lauenburg line had finally lost the Saxon Electorate to the Wittenberg line in 1356 and failed to obtain the succession in the Electorate after 1422, recognition of the Dukes of Saxe-Lauenburg as Dukes of Saxony waned. To follow the remnant House of Ascania in Saxe-Lauenburg, follow this table. For the following Electors of Saxony, see below the ]. | |||
I may also offer that religion is art. By that I emphatically ''do not'' mean that it is "untrue." The vast majority of things that are important to us resist characterization by conventional notions of what can be judged as true or untrue: morality, love, art, literature, music, etc. It is quite obvious that Bach, Rembrandt, Shakespeare and especially the Bible are mostly ''true'' in a way that formal logic has not yet evolved to describe. It is the shortcoming of the latter, not the aforementioned. I do not subscribe to the technical points of Catholicism, which I would call the words, some of which seem to me quite obviously false (though trivially, to me, as I view theology as essentially trivial) but I am certain that the ''music'' is ''true''. Be wary of those with the right words but the wrong music. I hope I've not offended you or anyone else who's viewed this post.] 11:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
====Table of rulers==== | |||
:The pleasure experienced upon listening to music is subjective. ] 19:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
<small>(Note: Both lines follow the numbering established in this table until 1296. From 1296 on, each line follows independently the succession of Saxon dukes until 1296)</small> | |||
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Thanks for your help in reverting the nonsense criticism of one user in the ] and the ] articles. Please continue to support the insertion of these passages, as they are only removed by those (sadly often liberals and communists) who want to imply a linking of the Catholic Church to "Fascism". The anti-Catholicism of the Nazi Reich does not fit into their picture, therefore they remove entire sections detailing it. Despite these sections being firmly documented and proven by Goebbels diary and Hitler biographical historians. Thanks again.] 15:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
! colspan=2 | Ruler<br><small>(Lifespan)</small>!!Born!!Reign!!Death!!Consort!!Notes | |||
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|]<br>(c.1134-<br>2 February 1212)||]|||||1180-1212<br>]|| ]<br>six children<br><br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>c.1173<br>no children|| Also ] and ]. | |||
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|]<br>(c.1175-<br>7 October 1260)||]|||||1212-1260<br>]||]<br>1222<br>five children<br><br>]<br>1238<br>three children<br><br>]<br>1247<br>five children|| Father of the following two dukes | |||
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|]<br>(1250-<br>25 August 1298)||]|||||1260-1296<br>]||]<br>1282<br>six children | |||
|rowspan="5"| Until 1282, the brothers John I and Albert II ruled jointly. From John I's abdication in 1282, Albert shared rule with his minor nephews, sons of John I: John II, Albert III and Eric I. In 1296 they divided the land. Albert II retained Saxe-Wittenberg, and became the head of the elder Saxon Line, while his nephews ruled together in Saxe-Lauenburg, becoming the founders of the younger Saxon Line. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]<br>(1249-<br>30 July 1285)|||||||1260-1282<br>]||]<br>1270<br>eight children | |||
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|]<br>(1275-<br>22 April 1322)||||| | |||
|rowspan="3"|1282-1296<br>]|| ]<br>1315<br>one child | |||
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|]<br>(1280-1360)||]|| || ]<br>1316 or 1318<br>four children | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]<br>(1281-1308)||||| || ]<br>1302<br>two children | |||
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| align="center" colspan=7 | In 1296 Albert II and his nephews Albert III, Eric I, and John II ended their joint rule and partitioned Saxony into the Lauenburg line, where Albert III, Eric I, and John II continued to rule jointly until 1303, and the Wittenberg line, where Albert II continued as sole ruler until 1298. Since the Duke of Saxony was considered one of the ]s choosing a new ], conflict arose between the lines of Lauenburg and Wittenberg over the issue of who should cast Saxony's vote. In 1314 both lines found themselves on different sides in a double election. Eventually, the Dukes of Saxe-Wittenberg succeeded in 1356 after the promulgation of the ]. To distinguish him from other rulers bearing the title Duke of Saxony, he was commonly called '']''. | |||
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|]||]|||1250||1296-1298<br>]||25 August 1298|| ]<br>1282<br>six children|| Became sole ruler of Saxe-Wittenberg. | |||
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|rowspan="3"|1296-1303<br>]||22 April 1322|| ]<br>1315<br>one child | |||
|rowspan="3"|Ruled jointly until 1303, when they divided once more the territory between them. | |||
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|]||]||1280||1360|| ]<br>1316 or 1318<br>four children | |||
|- style="background:#def;" | |||
|]|||||1281||1308|| ]<br>1302<br>two children | |||
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|]||]|||1284||1298-1356<br>]||12 March 1356|| ]<br>1298<br>eight children<br><br>]<br>28 August 1328<br>one child<br><br>]<br>1333<br>three children||In January 1356 the ] confirmed Rudolf I as the legitimate Saxon Prince-Elector, thus the rulers of Saxe-Wittenberg are conceived as Electors of Saxony. | |||
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|]|||||1275||1303-1315<br>]||22 April 1322|| ]<br>1315<br>one child|| In 1315 he realigned the territory. | |||
|- style="background:#ffd;" | |||
|]||]||1280||1303-1315<br>]||1360|| ]<br>1316 or 1318<br>four children|| In 1315 realigned the territory. | |||
|- style="background:#eff;" | |||
|]|||||1281||1303-1308<br>]||1308|| ]<br>1302<br>two children||Left his lands to his widow. | |||
|- style="background:#eff;" | |||
|]|||||1270||1308-1315<br>]||1 May 1315|| ]<br>1302<br>two children<br><br>]<br>1302<br>two children||After her death, her brothers-in-law realigned the territory. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
| colspan=7 align="center"| In 1315, after the death of Margaret of Brandenburg, the remaining brothers Eric and John redesigned the political division in Saxe-Lauenburg; Eric retained all of Margaret's part, but had to give part of his original domains to his brother. John ruled in '''Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln''', Eric in '''Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg'''. | |||
|- style="background:#dde;" | |||
|]|||||1275||1315-1322<br>]||22 April 1322|| ]<br>1315<br>one child|| | |||
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|]||]||1280||1315-1338<br>]||1360|| ]<br>1316 or 1318<br>four children|| Abdicated in 1338 in favour of his son, Eric II. | |||
|- style="background:#dde;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||c.1300||1322-1330<br>]||before 1340|| ]<br>1315<br>one child<br><br>]<br>1330<br>no children|| Regent on behalf of her son, Albert. | |||
|- style="background:#dde;" | |||
|]||||1315||1322-1343<br>]||1343|| ]<br>1334<br>three child<br><br>]<br>1341<br>no children|| | |||
|- style="background:#ffd;" | |||
|]||||1318/20||1338-1368<br>]||1368|| ]<br>between 1342 and 1349<br>four children|| | |||
|- style="background:#dde;" | |||
|]||||c.1330||1343-1356||1356<br>] || ''Unmarried''|| Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother, Albert. | |||
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|]||||c.1330||1343-1370<br>]||1370|| ]<br>25 January 1366<br>no children|| Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother, Eric. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|colspan=7 align="center"|The ] confirmed the right to participate in the election of a ] to the Duke of Saxony in the Saxe-Wittenberg line. | |||
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|''']'''||]|||1284||10 January 1356 - 12 March 1356<br>]||12 March 1356|| ]<br>1298<br>eight children<br><br>]<br>28 August 1328<br>one child<br><br>]<br>1333<br>three children|| In January 1356 was recognized as the First Prince-Elector of Saxony. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''|||||1307||12 March 1356 - 6 December 1370<br>]||12 March 1356|| ''']'''<br>Before 8 May 1336<br>one child|| Left no descendants. | |||
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|]||||1354||1368-1401<br>]||21 June 1411/12|| ]<br>8 April 1373<br>ten children|| In 1401 he reunited Saxe-Lauenburg. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''||]||1337||6 December 1370 - 15 May 1388<br>] ||15 May 1388|| ''']'''<br/>23 January 1376<br/>six children|| Brother of his predecessor. | |||
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|]||]||c.1330||1370-1401<br>]||1401|| ''Unmarried''|| Determined to enter the clergy, has to resign to succeed his brothers. He also left no descendants, which allowed the Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg line to reunite Saxe-Lauenburg. | |||
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|''']'''||]||1378||15 May 1388 - 11 June 1419<br>]||11 June 1419|| ''']'''<br/>1387/89<br/>three children<br><br>''']'''<br/>March 1396<br/>two children|| Left no male descendants. he was succeeded by his brother, Albert. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|colspan=7 align="center"| In 1401 Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg inherited Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln from the Ascanian Elder Lauenburg line there extinct upon Eric IV's death. The reunited duchy continued under the old name of Saxe-Lauenburg. | |||
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|]||||1354||1401-1411/12<br>]||21 June 1411/12||]<br>8 April 1373<br>ten children|| In 1401 reunited Saxe-Lauenburg. | |||
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|]||||after 1373||1411/12-1436<br>]||1436|| ]<br>1404<br>no children<br><br>]<br>before 1422<br>one child | |||
|rowspan="2"| Ruled jointly. The numberings here lead to some confusion, as not all genealogists of the House of Ascania count John IV in the list of Dukes of Saxe-Lauenburg, numbering John V (John IV's nephew) as ''John IV''. | |||
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|]||||after 1373||1411/12-1414<br>]||1414||''Unmarried'' | |||
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|''']'''||]||1375/80||11 June 1419 - (before 12 November) 1422<br>] ||before 12 November 1422|| ''']'''<br/>14 January 1420<br/>no children|| Left no male descendants, which led the Ascanian Saxe-Wittenberg line to extinction. | |||
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|align="center" colspan=7|The Ascanian Dynasty continued in Saxe-Lauenburg until 1689, but after the Lauenburg line had finally lost the Saxon Electorate to the Wittenberg line in 1356 and failed to obtain the succession in the Electorate after 1422, recognition of the Dukes of Saxe-Lauenburg as Dukes of Saxony waned. To follow the remnant House of Ascania in Saxe-Lauenburg, follow this table. For the following Electors of Saxony, see below the ]. | |||
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|]||||1385/93||1436-1463<br>]||16 July 1463|| ]<br>1428<br>two children | |||
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|]||||18 July 1439||1463-1507<br>]||15 August 1507|| ]<br>12 February 1464<br>twelve children|| Sometimes numbered ''John IV''. He is somestime confused with his uncle, John IV (Eric V and Bernard IV's brother) and a son of his own (]). | |||
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|]||]||1 January 1470||1507-1543<br>]||1 August 1543||||]<br>20 November 1509<br>]<br>six children | |||
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|]||||1510||1543-1571<br>] ||19 March 1581|| ]<br>8 February 1540<br>]<br>nine children|| In 1571, highly indebted, he resigned in favour of his eldest son Magnus II, who had promised to redeem the pawned ducal demesnes with funds he gained as Swedish military commander and by his marriage to a Swedish princess. | |||
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|]||||1543||1571-1573<br>]||14 March 1603|| ]<br>4 July 1568<br>]<br>one child|| Eldest son of Francis I. He didn't pay the debts he promised to pay, and led to war with his father and brothers. Two years later they deposed Magnus II and Francis I re-ascended. Magnus' violent and judicial attempts to regain the duchy failed. In 1588 he was imprisoned for the remainder of his life. | |||
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|]||||1510||1573-1581<br>]||19 March 1581|| ]<br>8 February 1540<br>]<br>nine children|| Regained the title in 1573, after pushing back Magnus II. | |||
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|]||]||10 August 1547||1581-1619<br>]||2 July 1619|| ]<br>26 December 1574<br>]<br>four children<br><br>]<br>10 November 1582<br>]<br>fourteen children|| Brother of Magnus II. Vice-regent from 1578, administrator from 1581. Joint rule with his brother Maurice between 1581 and 1612. Father of Augustus and Julius Henry. | |||
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|]||||1551||1581-1612<br>]||2 November 1612|| ]<br>1581<br>''(annulled 1582)''<br>no children|| Ruled jointly with his brother Francis II. | |||
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|]||||17 February 1577||1619-1656<br>]||18 January 1656|| ]<br>5 March 1621<br>]<br>six children<br><br>]<br>4 June 1633<br>no children|| Left no male descendants; he was succeeded by his half-brother Julius Henry. | |||
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|]||]||9 April 1586||1656-1665<br>]||20 November 1665|| ]<br>17 March 1617<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>4 June 1633<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>18 August 1632<br>]<br>six children|| | |||
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|]||||25 February 1629||1665-1666<br>]||30 July 1666|| ]<br>1654<br>no children||Left no descendants; He was succeeded by his brother Julius Francis. | |||
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|]||]||16 September 1641||1666-1689<br>]||30 September 1689|| ]<br>9 April 1668<br>]<br>two children|| | |||
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The male line of Saxe-Lauenburg died out in 1689 with Julius Francis's death. The ] of ] usurped the territory, preventing the succession of the legitimate heiress, ]. In fact, ] was a great-great-grandson of ] through his great-grandmother ]. In 1814, after being deposed by various occupations in the ], ] passed Saxe-Lauenburg to his cousin, ], in a general territorial realignment at the ]. In 1865, after the ], the ] handed Saxe-Lauenburg to ], to whom the ] of Saxe-Lauenburg offered the ducal throne. Both duke and estates decided to merge Saxe-Lauenburg into Prussia, as the district ], with effect from 1 July 1876. | |||
== about the ] article == | |||
{{Electors of the Holy Roman Empire after 1356}} | |||
i renamed the ] to ], but i see you created instead ]. But as per the , we dont use the title of the source film in the article, but instead we use the word "film" to describe its a film, "comic" to describe its a comicbook-related article, "actor" to describe a person, etc. ] 06:31, 15 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
:okay, i finally understand, sorry for the trouble ;) ] 07:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== A favour requested == | |||
The Ascanian line of Saxe-Wittenberg became extinct with the death of Elector ] in 1422, whereafter Emperor ] bestowed the country and electoral dignity upon Margrave ], who had been a loyal supporter in the ]. Late Albert's Ascanian relative Duke ] protested in vain. Frederick, now one of the seven Prince-electors, was a member of the ], which since 1089 had ruled over the adjacent ] up the Elbe river, established under Emperor ] in 965, and since 1242 also over the Landgraviate of ]. Thus, in 1423, Saxe-Wittenberg, the Margraviate of Meissen and Thuringia were ], and the unified territory . | |||
gradually received the name of (Upper) Saxony (or simply '''Saxony'''). | |||
====Partitions of Saxony under Wettin rule==== | |||
Hello, my dear friend. Will you do me a favour and refrain from posting anything more on the Christianity talk page until tomorrow? I won't make that request of anyone else, because you're the only person I'd feel comfortable asking that, but I think if even one person stops, it will help. ]] 00:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Str1977, we still have a dispute to resolve. Please re-join the talk page on Banu Qurayza.] 05:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Aminz recently added this to the ] page: "] states that the incident should be understood in its context: It occured in a world in which the traitors were executed." Is that true? ] 21:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| colspan=28 style="background: #eee;" |'''Electorate of Saxony'''<br>(1422-1464) | |||
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| colspan=10 |'''''Albertine'' territories''' | |||
| colspan=18 |'''''Ernestine'' territories''' | |||
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| colspan=10 rowspan=2 style="background: #fff;" |''Albertine '' '''Duchy of Saxony'''<br>(1464-1547) | |||
| colspan=18 rowspan=1 style="background: #eee;" |''Ernestine'' '''Electorate of Saxony'''<br>(1464-1547) | |||
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| colspan=2 rowspan=2 style="background: #def;" | '''Duchy of Saxe-Coburg'''<br>(1542-1552) | |||
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| colspan=10 rowspan=10 style="background: #eee;" |''Albertine'' '''Electorate of Saxony'''<br>(1547-1806) | |||
| colspan=16 rowspan=1 style="background: #fff;" |''Ernestine '' '''Duchy of Saxony'''<br>(1547-1554) | |||
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| colspan=2 style="background: #abc;" |'''Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach'''<br>(1554-1566) | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #cba;" |'''Saxe-Gotha'''<br>(1554-1565) | |||
| colspan=8 style="background: #bca;" |'''Saxe-Weimar'''<br>(1554-1566) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=17 style="background: #fff;" |''Ernestine '' '''Duchy of Saxony'''<br>(1566-1572) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=1 style="background: #abc;" |'''Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach'''<br>(1572-1596) | |||
| colspan=9 rowspan=2 style="background: #bca;" |'''Saxe-Weimar'''<br>(1572-1741) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=2 style="background: #def;" |'''Saxe-Coburg'''<br>(1596-1633) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=2 style="background: #fed;" |'''Saxe-Eisenach'''<br>(1596-1633) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=6 rowspan=2 style="background: #bca;" | <!---Weimar---> | |||
| colspan=3 rowspan=6 style="background: #ec6;" |'''Saxe-Altenburg'''<br>(1603-1672) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=2 style="background: #abc;" |'''Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach'''<br>(1633-1638) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=8 style="background: #bca;" | <!---Albertine Electorate---> | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=2 style="background: #fed;" |'''Saxe-Eisenach'''<br>(1640-1644) | |||
| colspan=2 style="background: #bca;" | <!---Weimar---> ' | |||
| colspan=4 rowspan=3 style="background: #cba;" |'''Saxe-Gotha'''<br>(1640-1672) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan= 7 style="background: #eee;"| <!---Albertine Electorate---> | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=4 style="background: #dcf;" |'''Saxe-Zeitz'''<br>(1656-1718) | |||
| colspan=3 rowspan=3 style="background: #daf;" |'''Saxe-Merseburg'''<br>(1656-1738) | |||
| colspan=3 rowspan=3 style="background: #cfe;" |'''Saxe-Weissenfels'''<br>(1656-1746) | |||
| colspan=4 style="background: #bca;" | <!---Weimar---> | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #fed;" |'''Saxe-Eisenach'''<br>(1662-1741) | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #ccaa76;" |'''Saxe-Marksuhl'''<br>(1662-1671) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=3 style="background: #bca;" | <!---Weimar---> | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=3 style="background: #bac;" |'''Saxe-Jena'''<br>(1662-1690) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=6 style="background: #fed;" | <!---Eisenach---> | |||
| colspan=7 style="background: #fae;" |'''Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg'''<br>(1672-1826) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #daa;" |'''Saxe-Merseburg-Lauchstädt'''<br>(1684-1690) | |||
| colspan=2 style="background: #daf;" | <!---Merseburg---> | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=2 style="background: #cfe;" |'''Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt'''<br>(1680-1739) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=5 style="background: #cfc;" |'''Saxe-Weissenfels-Barby'''<br>(1680-1739) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=8 style="background: #fae;" | <!---Gotha-Altenburg---> | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=3 style="background: #dac;" |'''Saxe-Hildburghausen'''<br>(1675-1826) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=3 style="background: #cda;" |'''Saxe-Eisenberg'''<br>(1675-1707) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=9 style="background: #aec;" |'''Saxe-Meiningen'''<br>(1675-1918) | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #bda;" |'''Saxe-Saalfeld'''<br>(1675-1699) | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #def;" |'''Saxe-Coburg'''<br>(1675-1699) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=3 style="background: #cea;" |'''Saxe-Römhild'''<br>(1675-1710) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=2 style="background: #dcf;" | <!---Zeitz---> | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=2 style="background: #dcc;" |'''Saxe-Zeitz-Pegau-Neustadt'''<br>(1699-1713) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=2 style="background: #ada;" |'''Saxe-Merseburg-Zörbig'''<br>(1691-1715) | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=2 style="background: #daf;" | <!---Merseburg---> | |||
| colspan=1 rowspan=4 style="background: #add;" |'''Saxe-Merseburg-Spremberg'''<br>(1694-1731) | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=4 style="background: #bca;" | <!---Weimar---> | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=2 style="background: #ff9;" |'''Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld'''<br>(1699-1826) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #efe;" |'''Saxe-Weissenfels-Dahme'''<br>(1711-1715) | |||
| colspan=1 style="background: #cfe;" | <!---Querfurt---> | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=2 style="background: #dcf;" | <!---Zeitz---> | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=2 style="background: #daf;" | <!---Merseburg---> | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=2 style="background: #cfe;" | <!---Querfurt---> | |||
| colspan=2 rowspan=6 style="background: #dac;" | <!---Hildburghausen---> | |||
| colspan=3 rowspan=5 style="background: #ff9;" | <!---Coburg-Saalfeld---> | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=4 style="background: #eee;" | <!---Albertine Electorate---> | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=7 style="background: #eee;" | <!---Albertine Electorate---> | |||
| colspan=3 style="background: #cfe;" |'''Saxe-Weissenfels'''<br>(-1746) | |||
| colspan=4 rowspan=2 style="background: #6cf;" |'''Duchy of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach'''<br>(1741-1815) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=10 style="background: #eee;" | <!---Albertine Electorate---> | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=10 rowspan=2 style="background: #fff;" |'''Kingdom of Saxony''' | |||
| colspan=4 rowspan=2 style="background: #6cf;" |'''Grand-Duchy of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach'''<br>(1815-1918) | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=3 style="background: #dac;" |'''Saxe-Altenburg'''<br>(1826-1918) | |||
| colspan=3 style="background: #ff9;" |'''Saxe-Coburg-Gotha'''<br>(1826-1918) | |||
|- | |||
|} | |||
== |
====Table of rulers==== | ||
<small>(Note: Here the numbering of the princes is the same for all principalities, as all were titled Dukes of Saxony, despite of the different parts of land and its particular numbering of the rulers. The princes are numbered following '''Ascanian Saxe-Wittenberg line''' (their predecessors) and by the year of their succession.)</small> | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
Sorry to have upset you. As you say, it seemed to me a trivial matter. I shall consider it a bit more.] 23:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
|- bgcolor=#cccccc | |||
! colspan=2 | Ruler!!Born!!Reign!!Death!!Ruling part!!Consort!!Notes | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich der Streitbare)''||]|||11 April 1370||6 January 1423 - 4 January 1428||4 January 1428||] and ''']''' || ''']'''<br>7 February 1402<br>seven children|| After the Wittenberg line of the Ascanians became extinct, the Electorate was given to Frederick, ] of ] and Landgrave of ], of the ]. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich der Sanftmütige)''||]||22 April 1412||4 January 1428 - 7 September 1464||7 September 1464||] and ''']''' || ''']'''<br>3 June 1431<br>]<br>eight children|| Son of Frederick I. Ruled jointly in Saxony with his brothers, but was the sole holder of the Electorate. Father of Ernest and Albert, founders of the Ernestine and Albertine Saxon lines. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Ernst)''||]||24 March 1441||7 September 1464 - 26 August 1486||26 August 1486|| ''Ernestine''<br>''']''' || ''']'''<br>25 November 1460<br>]<br>seven children|| Son of Frederick II. He was the founder and progenitor of the '''Ernestine line'''. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]||]||27 January 1443||1464–1500||12 September 1500||''Albertine''<br>]|| ]<br>11 November 1464<br>]<br>nine children|| Son of Frederick II. He was the founder and progenitor of the '''Albertine line'''. | |||
|- | |||
| align="center" colspan=9 | In the ] (1485) Ernest and Albert divided the Wettine territories among each other. Ernest retained the Electorate and most of Thuringia, while Albert received Meissen and parts in northern Thuringia. | |||
|- | |||
|} | |||
====Ernestine Dukes/Electors of Saxony==== | |||
== "The name is informal and unencyclopedic" == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|- bgcolor=#cccccc | |||
! colspan=2 | Ruler!!Born!!Reign!!Death!!Ruling part!!Consort!!Notes | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Ernst)''||]||24 March 1441||7 September 1464 - 26 August 1486||26 August 1486|| ''Ernestine''<br>''']''' || ''']'''<br>25 November 1460<br>]<br>seven children|| Son of Frederick II. He was the founder and progenitor of the '''Ernestine line'''. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich der Weise)''||]||17 January 1463||26 August 1486 - 5 May 1525||5 May 1525|| ''Ernestine''<br>''']''' || ''Unmarried''|| Son of Ernest. Protector of ]. Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brothers. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Johann der Beständige)''||]||30 June 1468||5 May 1525 - 16 August 1532||16 August 1532|| ''Ernestine''<br>''']''' ||]<br>1 March 1500<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>13 November 1513<br>]<br>four children|| Co-regent of his brother of Frederick III (26 August 1486 - 5 May 1525), with his own residence at Weimar since 1513. Established ] in his territories in 1527. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|rowspan="2" | ''']'''<br>''(Johann Friedrich I der Großmütige)'' ||rowspan="2" | ]||rowspan="2" | 30 June 1503||16 August 1532 - 19 May 1547||rowspan="2" | 3 March 1554||''Ernestine''<br>''']'''||rowspan="2" | ''']'''<br>9 February 1527<br>]<br>four children||rowspan="2" | Lost his Electoral dignity and territory to his cousin Maurice after being defeated the Emperor in the ]. He was left with some territories as the Duchy of Saxony. After his death the Duchy of Saxony was divided between his three sons. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|| 19 May 1547 - 1554|| ''Ernestine''<br>''']''' | |||
|- style="background:#def;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Johann Ernst)''||]||10 May 1521||16 August 1532 - 1553||8 February 1553|| ''Ernestine''<br>''']'''<br>]||''']'''<br>12 February 1542<br>]<br>no children|| Ruled together with his brother John Frederick until 1542, after that Duke of Saxe-Coburg. After his death, his territory reverted back to his brother. | |||
|- | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"| | |||
=====Ernestine Duchies===== | |||
Following their displacement by the Albertines, the Ernestine branch of the Wettins continued to rule in southern Thuringia as "Dukes of Saxony", but their lands eventually split up into many different '']''. | |||
|- style="background:#abc;" | |||
|]||]||8 January 1529||1554-1565||19 May 1595|| ''Ernestine''<br>]]||]<br>26 May 1555<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>12 June 1558<br>]<br>four children|| Received Saxe-Weimar. In 1565 united his domains with those of his younger brother in Gotha. | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||11 March 1530||1554-1566||2 March 1573|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>15 June 1560<br>]<br>five children|| Received Saxe-Weimar. In 1565 united his domains with those of his younger brother in Gotha. | |||
|- style="background:#cba;" | |||
|]||]||16 January 1538||1554-1565||21 October 1565|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried''|| Received Saxe-Gotha. However he left its administration to his elder brothers. After his death, his domains were annexed by his elder brother. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]||]||8 January 1529||1565-1566||19 May 1595|| ''Ernestine''<br>]] and ]||]<br>26 May 1555<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>12 June 1558<br>]<br>four children|| Reunited his domains with those of his younger brother in Gotha. In 1566 abdicated in favor of his brother John William, who reunited the duchy. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]||]||11 March 1530||1566-1572||2 March 1573|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>15 June 1560<br>]<br>five children|| Reunited Saxony in 1566, after the abdication of his older brother. In 1572, the ] divided Saxony once again, between John William and his nephews, sons of John Frederick II. | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||11 March 1530||1572-1573||2 March 1573||''Ernestine''<br> ]||]<br>15 June 1560<br>]<br>five children|| Received Saxe-Weimar again. | |||
|- style="background:#abc;" | |||
|]||]||12 June 1564 | |||
|rowspan="2"|1572-1596||16 July 1633|| ''Ernestine''<br>]]||]<br>16 January 1586<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>16 September 1599<br>]<br>no children | |||
|rowspan="2"| Received Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach together. In 1596 divided the land. | |||
|- style="background:#abc;" | |||
|]||]||9 July 1566 | |||
||23 October 1638|| ''Ernestine''<br>]]||]<br>23 November 1591<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>14 May 1598<br>]<br>no children | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|'']''<br>(regent)||]||31 July 1526||1573-1586||11 February 1586|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>7 October 1548<br>]<br>fifteen children<br><br>]<br>3 January 1586<br>]<br>no children|| Named regent for Frederick William. | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||25 April 1562||1586-1602||7 July 1602|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>5 May 1583<br>]<br>six children<br><br>]<br>9 September 1591<br>]<br>six children||After his death, his brother took the land and in the next year divided it with his nephews (sons of Frederick William). | |||
|- style="background:#def;" | |||
|]||]||12 June 1564 | |||
||1596-1633||16 July 1633|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>16 January 1586<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>16 September 1599<br>]<br>no children | |||
|| Received Saxe-Coburg. Died without descendants and his brother reunited the inherited duchy. | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|]||]||9 July 1566||1596-1633 | |||
||23 October 1638|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>23 November 1591<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>14 May 1598<br>]<br>no children | |||
|| Received Saxe-Eisenach. His brother died without descendants and he reunited the inherited duchy. | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||22 May 1570||1602-1605||18 July 1605|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>7 January 1593<br>]<br>twelve children||Divided Saxe-Weimar with his nephews in 1603, retaining a smaller Saxe-Weimar (sometimes called Saxe-Weimar-Jena). | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||25 January 1597||1603-1639|| 1 April 1639|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>25 October 1618<br>]<br>one child | |||
|rowspan="3"|Received and ruled jointly the newly-created Saxe-Altenburg, after the partition of 1603. None of them had male descendants. | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||12 February 1599||1603-1625||24 October 1625|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried'' | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||||13 April 1600||1603-1632||2 December 1632|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried'' | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||21 February 1594 | |||
||1605-1626||6 December 1626|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried'' | |||
|rowspan="4"|Ruled together the domains of their father. In 1640 divided the land. William kept Saxe-Weimar. In 1644 William reunited his own domains with Albert's. | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||11 April 1598||1626-1644||17 May 1662|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 23 May 1625<br>]<br>nine children | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||27 July 1599 | |||
|rowspan="2"|1605-1640||20 December 1644|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>24 June 1633<br>]<br>no children | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||25 December 1601||26 March 1675|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>24 October 1636<br>]<br>eighteen children | |||
|- style="background:#abc;" | |||
|]||]||9 July 1566||1633-1638 | |||
||23 October 1638|| ''Ernestine''<br>]]||]<br>23 November 1591<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>14 May 1598<br>]<br>no children|| Reunited Saxe-Eisenach. However died without descendants and his duchy was divided between Saxe-Weimar and Saxe-Altenburg. | |||
|- style="background:#abc;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach divided between its neighbours ] and ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||12 February 1602||1639-1669||22 April 1669|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>18 September 1638<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>11 October 1652<br>]<br>three children|| Brother of John Philip, Frederick and John William. Succeeded his childless brothers. Received part of Saxe-Weimar-Eiesnach in 1638. | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|]||]||27 July 1599||1640-1644||20 December 1644|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>24 June 1633<br>]<br>no children||Received Saxe-Eisenach from his father. After his death his brother William united Saxe-Eisenach with Saxe-Weimar. | |||
|- style="background:#cba;" | |||
|]||]||25 December 1601||1640-1672||26 March 1675|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>24 October 1636<br>]<br>eighteen children||Received Saxe-Gotha from his father. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]||]||11 April 1598||1644-1662||17 May 1662|| ''Ernestine''<br>] and ]||]<br> 23 May 1625<br>]<br>nine children||Reunited Saxe-Weimar and Saxe-Eisenach under his rule. After his death his domains were divided by his four sons. | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||11 September 1627||1662-1683||15 May 1683|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>14 August 1656<br>]<br>five children||Son of William I. Received the remaining Saxe-Weimar. | |||
|- style="background:#bac;" | |||
|]||]|| 14 October 1638||1662-1678||3 May 1678|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>10 June 1662<br>]<br>five children||Son of William I. Received Saxe-Jena. | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|]||]||15 May 1632||1662-1668||21 November 1668|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>18 January 1663<br>]<br>five children||Son of William I. Received Saxe-Eisenach. | |||
|- style="background:#ccaa76;" | |||
|]||]||11 April 1598||1662-1671||17 May 1662|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 29 May 1661<br>]<br>nine children||Son of William I. Received Saxe-Marksuhl. Inherited Eisenach from his minor nephew in 1671, merging Marksuhl in Eisenach. | |||
|- style="background:#ccaa76;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Marksuhl was annexed by ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||12 July 1634 | |||
|rowspan="2"|1668-1671||19 September 1686|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 29 May 1661<br>]<br>nine children||Regent for his nephew. | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|]||||30 November 1668||23 February 1671||]||''Unmarried''||Died as a minor. His uncle, as regent, inherited his domain. | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)|||]||31 May 1613 | |||
|rowspan="2"|1669-1672||22 August 1680|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>13 November 1638<br>]<br>three children|| Regent in mae of Frederick William III. The minor duke never reached adulthood. | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||12 July 1657||14 April 1672|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried''|| Son of Frederick William II. Died as a minor. His lands were divided between Saxe-Gotha and Saxe-Weimar. | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Altenburg merged in ] to form ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|]||]||12 July 1634||1671-1686||19 September 1686|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 29 May 1661<br>]<br>nine children||Inherited Eisenach from his minor nephew in 1671, merging Marksuhl in Eisenach. | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|]||]||25 December 1601||1672-1675||26 March 1675|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>24 October 1636<br>]<br>eighteen children||Reunited his domains and his wife's (as heiress of Saxe-Altenburg). | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|]||]||15 July 1646||1675-1691||2 August 1691|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>14 November 1669<br>]<br>eight children<br><br>]<br>14 August 1681<br>]<br>no children||Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg. | |||
|- style="background:#def;" | |||
|]||]||24 May 1648||1675-1699||6 August 1699|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>18 July 1676<br>]<br>one child<br><br>'']''<br>24 May 1688<br>]<br>''morganatic''<br>no children||Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Coburg. Left no male descendants. His lands were annexed by Saafeld. | |||
|- style="background:#def;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Coburg merged in ] to form ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||10 September 1649||1675-1706||27 April 1706|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>20 November 1671<br>]<br>seven children<br><br>]<br>25 January 1681<br>]<br>five children||Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Meiningen. | |||
|- style="background:#cea;" | |||
|]||]||19 November 1650||1675-1710||13 May 1710|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>1 March 1676<br>]<br>no children||Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Römhild. Left no descendants and his lands were anexed to Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. | |||
|- style="background:#cea;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Römhild was annexed by ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#cda;" | |||
|]||]||6 January 1653||1675-1707||28 April 1707|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>13 February 1677<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>9 February 1681<br>]<br>no children||Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Eisenberg. Left no male descendants and his lands were anexed to Saxe-Hildburghausen. | |||
|- style="background:#cda;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Eisenberg was annexed by ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#dac;" | |||
|]||]||12 June 1655||1675-1715||17 October 1715|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>30 November 1680<br>]<br>eighteen children||Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Hildburghausen. | |||
|- style="background:#bda;" | |||
|]||]||22 August 1658||1675-1699||17 February 1729|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>18 February 1680<br>]<br>five children<br><br>]<br>2 December 1690<br>]<br>eight children||Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Saafeld. In 1699 reunified it with Saxe-Coburg, forming Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. | |||
|- style="background:#bac;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||11 September 1627||1678-1683||15 May 1683|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>14 August 1656<br>]<br>five children||Regent for his nephew. | |||
|- style="background:#bac;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||12 July 1634||1683-1686||19 September 1686|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 29 May 1661<br>]<br>nine children||Regent for his nephew. | |||
|- style="background:#bac;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||19 October 1662||1686-1690||26 August 1728|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>2 November 1683<br>]<br>no children|| Regent for his cousin. | |||
|- style="background:#bac;" | |||
|]||||28 March 1675||1678-1690||4 November 1690|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried''||Son of Bernard IV. Died as a minor. | |||
|- style="background:#bac;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach divided between its neighbours ] and ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||19 October 1662||1683-1728||26 August 1728|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>2 November 1683<br>]<br>no children | |||
|rowspan="2"| Ruled jointly. John Ernest was just a nominal ruler; William Ernest had full government. | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||22 June 1664||1683-1707||10 May 1707|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>11 October 1685<br>]<br>five children<br><br>]<br>4 November 1694<br>]<br>four children | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|]||]||24 July 1665||1686-1698||10 November 1698||''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>20 September 1688<br>]<br>no children||Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |||
|- style="background:#fae; | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||10 September 1649 | |||
|rowspan="2"|1691-1693||27 April 1706|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>20 November 1671<br>]<br>seven children<br><br>]<br>25 January 1681<br>]<br>five children | |||
|rowspan="2"|Regents in name of their nephew, Frederick VI. | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||19 November 1650||13 May 1710|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>1 March 1676<br>]<br>no children | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|]||]||28 July 1676||1693-1732||23 March 1732|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>7 June 1696<br>]<br>nineteen children|| | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|]||]||17 October 1666||1698-1729||14 January 1729||''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>28 November 1690<br>]<br>two children<br><br>]<br>27 February 1697<br>]<br>seven children<br><br>]<br> 28 July 1708<br>]<br>three children<br><br>]<br>29 May 1727<br>]<br>no children|| | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||22 August 1658||1699-1729||17 February 1729|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>18 February 1680<br>]<br>five children<br><br>]<br>2 December 1690<br>]<br>eight children||In 1699 reunified Saxe-Saafeld with Saxe-Coburg, forming Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||7 October 1672||1706-1724||24 November 1724|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>19 September 1704<br>]<br>five children<br><br>]<br>3 June 1714<br>]<br>no children|| | |||
|- style="background:#dac;" | |||
|]||]||21 August 1681||1715-1724||9 March 1724|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>4 February 1704<br>]<br>fourteen children|| | |||
|- style="background:#dac;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||30 July 1683||1724-1728||4 September 1742|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>4 February 1704<br>]<br>fourteen children|| Regent on behalf of her son. | |||
|- style="background:#dac;" | |||
|]||]||17 December 1707||1728-1745||13 August 1745|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>19 June 1726<br>]<br>four children|| | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||8 August 1709||1724-1729||24 February 1729|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried''|| Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |||
|- style="background:#bca;" | |||
|]||]||19 April 1688||1728-1741||19 January 1748|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>2 November 1683<br>]<br>eight children<br><br>]<br>7 April 1734<br>]<br>four children|| Son of John Ernest VI. Reunited under his rule the duchies of Saxe-Weimar and Eisenach. | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|]||]||10 November 1691||1729-1741||26 July 1741||''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>15 February 1713<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>3 June 1723<br>]<br>no children|| Left no descendants: Saxe-Eisenach merged with Saxe-Weimar. | |||
|- style="background:#fed;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Eisenach merged in ] to form ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||18 August 1683||1729-1745||4 September 1745|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||'']''<br>18 August 1724<br>]<br>''(morganatic)''<br>no children||Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||18 July 1712||1729-1743||28 March 1743|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried''|| Brother of Ernest Louis II. Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his uncle. | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|]||]||14 April 1699||1732-1772||10 March 1772|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>17 September 1729<br>]<br>eight children|| | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|]||]||19 April 1688||1741-1748||19 January 1748|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>2 November 1683<br>]<br>eight children<br><br>]<br>7 April 1734<br>]<br>four children|| Reunited under his rule the duchies of Saxe-Weimar and Eisenach. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||16 February 1679||1743-1746||10 March 1746|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried''|| Brother of Ernest Louis I. Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his half-brother. | |||
|- style="background:#dac;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||29 September 1700||1745-1748||7 May 1758|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>19 June 1726<br>]<br>four children|| Regent on behalf of her son. | |||
|- style="background:#dac;" | |||
|]||]||10 June 1727||1748-1780||23 September 1780|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 1 October 1749<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>20 January 1757<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br> 1 July 1758<br>]<br>three children|| | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||25 September 1697||1745-1764||16 September 1764|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>2 January 1723<br>]br>eight children||Brother of Christian Ernest. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||22 October 1687||1746-1763||27 January 1763|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||'']''<br>January 1711<br>''morganatic''<br>ten children<br><br>]<br>26 September 1750<br>]<br>eight children|| | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||25 September 1697 | |||
|rowspan="2"|1748-1755||16 September 1764|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>2 January 1723<br>]br>eight children | |||
|rowspan="2"|Regents in name of Ernest Augstus I's son, Ernest Augustus II. | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||14 April 1699||10 March 1772|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>17 September 1729<br>]<br>eight children | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|]||]||2 June 1737||1755-1758||28 May 1758|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>2 November 1683<br>]<br>two children|| | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||24 October 1739||1758-1775||10 April 1807|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>2 November 1683<br>]<br>two children|| | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|]||]||3 September 1757||1775-1828||14 June 1828|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>3 October 1775<br>]<br>seven children|| In 1815 his rank of ''Duke'' was elevated to ''Grand Duke''; from 1815 Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach becomes a ]. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||11 August 1730||1763-1779||7 September 1801|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>26 September 1750<br>]<br>eight children|| | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||19 November 1754||1779-1782||21 January 1782|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>5 June 1780<br>]<br>no children|| Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||8 March 1724||1764-1800||8 September 1800|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>23 April 1749<br>]br>seven children|| | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|]||]||30 January 1745||1772-1804||20 April 1804|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>21 March 1769<br>]<br>four children|| | |||
|- style="background:#dac;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||5 October 1702||1780-1787||4 January 1787|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>17 April 1738<br>]<br>''(annulled 1757)''<br>no children|| Son of Ernest III. Regent on behalf of Frederick VIII. | |||
|- style="background:#dac;" | |||
|]||]||29 April 1763||1787-1826||29 September 1834|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 3 September 1785<br>]<br>twelve children|| Inherited Altenburg from Frederick X. The duchy changed its name to '''Saxe-Altenburg'''. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||4 February 1761||1782-1803||24 December 1803|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>27 November 1782<br>]<br>four children|| | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||15 July 1750||1800-1806||9 December 1806|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 6 March 1776<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>13 June 1777<br>]<br>ten children|| | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||11 August 1763||1803-1821||30 April 1837|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>27 November 1782<br>]<br>four children|| Regent on behalf of her son. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||17 December 1800||1821-1882||3 December 1882|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 23 March 1825<br>]<br>two children|| | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|]||]||23 November 1772||1804-1822||17 May 1822|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>21 October 1797<br>]<br>one child<br><br>]<br>24 April 1802<br>]<br>no children||Left no male descendants. The land was inherited by his brother Frederick | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||2 January 1784||1806-1844||29 January 1844|| ''Ernestine''<br>] (1800-1826)<br><br>''Ernestine''<br>] (1826-1844)||]<br>3 July 1817<br>]<br>two children<br><br>]<br>23 December 1832<br>]<br>no children|| Inherited Gotha from Frederick IX, but had to cede Saafeld to Saxe-Meiningen. The duchy changed its name to '''Saxe-Coburg and Gotha''' | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|]||]||28 November 1774||1822-1825||11 February 1825|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||''Unmarried''||Brother of Augustus. Left no male descendants. The land was divided between Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld and Saxe-Hildburghausen. | |||
|- style="background:#fae;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg divided between its neighbours ] and ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||29 April 1763||1826-1834||29 September 1834|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 3 September 1785<br>]<br>twelve children|| Inherited Altenburg from Frederick X. The duchy of Saxe-Hildburghausen changed its name to '''Saxe-Altenburg'''. | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|]||]||2 February 1783||1828-1853||8 July 1853|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>3 August 1804<br>]<br>four children|| | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||27 August 1789||1834-1848||25 November 1868|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>24 April 1817<br>]<br>six children|| He implemented several buildings in Altenburg, but his government was considered conservative and resistant to reform; for this, he was forced to abdicate during the civil revolution of 1848. Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother George. | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||21 June 1818||1844-1893||22 August 1893|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br> 3 May 1842<br>]<br>no children|| Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his nephews. | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||24 July 1796||1848-1853||3 August 1853|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>7 October 1825<br>]<br>three children|| Brother of Joseph. | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|]||]||24 June 1818||1853-1901||5 January 1901|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>8 October 1842<br>]<br>four children|| | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||16 February 1826||1853-1908||7 February 1908|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>28 April 1853<br>]<br>two children|| Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his nephew. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||2 April 1826||1882-1914||25 June 1914|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>18 May 1850<br>]<br>four children<br><br>]<br>23 October 1858<br>]<br>three children<br><br>'']''<br>18 March 1873<br>]<br>''(morganatic)''<br>no children|| | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||6 August 1844||1893-1900||30 July 1900|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>23 January 1874<br>]<br>six children|| Son of ] and ]. | |||
|- style="background:#ff9;" | |||
|]||]||19 July 1884||1900-1918||6 March 1954|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>11 October 1905<br>]<br>five children|| Son of ]; Nephew of Alfred. Monarchy abolished in 1918. | |||
|- style="background:#6cf;" | |||
|]||]||10 June 1876||1901-1918||24 April 1923|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>30 April 1903<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>14 January 1910<br>]<br>four children|| Grandson of Charles Alexander, as son of ]. Monarchy abolished in 1918. | |||
|- style="background:#ec6;" | |||
|]||]||31 August 1871||1908-1918||22 March 1955|| ''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>17 February 1898<br>]<br>''(annulled 1920)''<br>four children<br><br>'']''<br>15 July 1934<br>]<br>''(morganatic)''<br>no children|| Grandson of George III, as son of ]. Monarchy abolished in 1918. | |||
|- style="background:#aec; | |||
|]||]||1 April 1851||1914-1918||16 January 1928||''Ernestine''<br>]||]<br>18 February 1878<br>]<br>two children|| Monarchy abolished in 1918. | |||
|} | |||
====Albertine Dukes/Electors of Saxony==== | |||
It's not a big deal... just, it doesn't belong on Talk:Muhammad. I have no reason to believe that you had anything but the best intentions... but, I just wanted to end the discussion so it went on in the right place. ] ] 09:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
<small>(Note: Here the numbering of the princes is the same for all principalities, as all were titled Dukes of Saxony, despite of the different parts of land and its particular numbering of the rulers. The princes are numbered following '''Ascanian Saxe-Wittenberg line''' (their predecessors) and by the year of their succession.)</small> | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
== Mediation at ] == | |||
|- bgcolor=#cccccc | |||
! colspan=2 | Ruler!!Born!!Reign!!Death!!Ruling part!!Consort!!Notes | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]||]||27 January 1443||1464–1500||12 September 1500||''Albertine''<br>]|| ]<br>11 November 1464<br>]<br>nine children|| Son of Frederick II. He was the founder and progenitor of the '''Albertine line'''. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]||]||27 August 1471||1500-1539||17 April 1539||''Albertine''<br>]|| ]<br>21 November 1496<br>]<br>ten children|| Proponent of Catholic Reform and a staunch opponent of Martin Luther. Left no surviving male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother Henry. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|]||]||16 March 1473||1539-1541||18 August 1541||''Albertine''<br>]|| ]<br>69 January 1541<br>]<br>nine children|| Succeeded his brother of George I. He established Lutheranism in Albertine Saxony. | |||
|- style="background:#fff;" | |||
|rowspan="2" | ''']'''<br>''(Moritz)'' ||rowspan="2" | ]||rowspan="2" | 21 March 1521||1541-1547||rowspan="2" | 9 July 1553||''Albertine''<br>]||rowspan="2" | ]<br>9 January 1541<br>]<br>two children||rowspan="2" | Second cousin of John Frederick, grandson of ]. Though a Lutheran, allied with ] against the ]. Gained the Electorate for the Albertine line in 1547 after Charles V's victory at the ]. Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother Augustus. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|| 4 June 1547 - 9 July 1553 || ''Albertine''<br>''']''' | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(August)''||]||31 July 1526||9 July 1553 - 11 February 1586||11 February 1586|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>7 October 1548<br>]<br>fifteen children<br><br>''']'''<br>3 January 1586<br>]<br>no children|| Brother of Maurice. Recognized as Elector by the ousted John Frederick I in 1554. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Christian I)''||]||21 March 1521||11 February 1586 - 25 September 1591||25 September 1591|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>25 April 1582<br>]<br>seven children|| | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''' '']'' '''(regent)||]||6 June 1568||25 September 1591 - c.1601||7 December 1622|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>25 April 1582<br>]<br>seven children|| Regent on behalf of her son Christian II. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Christian II)''||]||23 September 1583||c.1601 - 23 June 1611||23 June 1611|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>12 September 1602<br>]<br>no children|| | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Johann Georg I)''||]||5 March 1585||23 June 1611 - 8 October 1656||8 October 1656|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||]<br>16 September 1604<br>]<br>one child<br><br>''']'''<br>19 July 1607<br>]<br>ten children|| Brother of Christian II. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Johann Georg II)''|||]||31 May 1613||8 October 1656 - 22 August 1680||22 August 1680|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>13 November 1638<br>]<br>three children|| | |||
|- style="background:#cfe;" | |||
|]||]||13 August 1614||1656-1680||4 June 1680|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>23 November 1647 <br>]<br>twelve children<br><br>]<br>29 January 1672<br>]<br>three children||Son of Elector John George I. Inherited Saxe-Weissenfels. After his death, Weissenfels was divided. | |||
|- style="background:#daf;" | |||
|]||]||27 October 1615||1656-1691||18 October 1691|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>19 November 1650<br>]<br>eleven children||Son of Elector John George I. Inherited Saxe-Merseburg. | |||
|- style="background:#dcf;" | |||
|]||]||28 March 1619||1662-1681||4 December 1681|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>19 November 1650<br>]<br>two children<br><br>]<br>3 July 1656<br>]<br>ten children<br><br>]<br>14 June 1676<br>]<br>no children||Son of Elector John George I. Inherited Saxe-Merseburg. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Johann Georg III)''||]||20 June 1647||22 August 1680 - 12 September 1691||12 September 1691|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>9 October 1666<br>]<br>two children|| | |||
|- style="background:#cfe;" | |||
|]||]||2 November 1649||1680-1697||24 May 1697|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>25 October 1671 <br>]<br>eleven children<br><br>'']''<br>3 February 1692 <br>]<br>''(morganatic)''<br>eleven children||Inherited the remaining Saxe-Weissenfels. | |||
|- style="background:#cfc;" | |||
|]||]||29 September 1657||1680-1728||16 February 1728|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>30 March 1686 <br>]<br>seven children||Inherited Saxe-Weissenfels-Barby. | |||
|- style="background:#dcf;" | |||
|]||]||12 March 1664||1681-1718||15 November 1718|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br> 25 June 1689<br>]<br>five children||Left no descendants. After his death Saxe-Zeitz merged in the Electorate. | |||
|- style="background:#dcf;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Zeitz merged in the ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#daa;" | |||
|]||]||26 October 1657||1684-1690||1 July 1690|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>9 July 1684<br>]<br>two children<br><br>]<br>17 August 1688<br>]<br>one child|| Son of Christian. Received from his father the town of Lauchstädt, and ruled it in his father's lifetime. After his death his land returned to is father. | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Johann Georg IV)''||]||18 October 1668||12 September 1691 - 27 April 1694||27 April 1694|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>17 April 1692<br>]<br>no children|| | |||
|- style="background:#daf;" | |||
|]||||19 November 1653||1691-1694||20 October 1694|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>14 October 1679<br>]<br>seven children|| | |||
|- style="background:#ada;" | |||
|]||||15 February 1655||1691-1715||27 March 1715|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>1 December 1686<br>]<br>eight children|| Son of Christian. Received from his brother the town of Zörbig. Left no male descendants. His lands returned to Saxe-Merseburg. | |||
|- style="background:#ada;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Merseburg-Zörbig merged in ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#eee;" | |||
|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich August I)''||]||12 May 1670||27 April 1694 - 1 February 1733||1 February 1733|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>20 January 1693<br>]<br>one child|| Brother of John George IV. Converted to Catholicism 1697 in order to compete for the crown of Poland. Took the Polish crown 1697, opposed by ], in 1704, forced to renounce the throne 1706, returned as monarch 1709 until his death. | |||
|- style="background:#add;" | |||
|]||]||2 September 1661||1694-1731||28 July 1738|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>29 March 1692<br>]<br>three children|| Son of Christian. Received from his brother the town of Spremberg. In 1731 succeeded in Saxe-Merseburg, reuniting its original lands with those he unexpectedly inherited. | |||
|- style="background:#add;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Merseburg-Spremberg merged in ]'' | |||
|- style="background:#daf;" | |||
|'']'' (regent)||]||12 May 1670 | |||
|rowspan="2"|1694-1712||1 February 1733|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>20 January 1693<br>]<br>one child | |||
|rowspan="2"| Regents on behalf of Christian Maurice, and then of Maurice Wilhelm. | |||
|- style="background:#daf;" | |||
|'']''||]||13 November 1661||29 April 1720|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>14 October 1679<br>]<br>seven children | |||
|- style="background:#daf;" | |||
|]||||7 November 1680||1694||14 November 1694|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>14 October 1679<br>]<br>seven children|| | |||
|- style="background:#daf;" | |||
|]||]||5 February 1688||1712-1731||21 April 1731|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>4 November 1711<br>]<br>one child|| Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his uncle, Henry. | |||
|- style="background:#cfe;" | |||
|]||]||13 July 1677||1697-1712||16 March 1712|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>7 January 1698 <br>]<br>seven children||Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother Christian. | |||
|- style="background:#dcc;" | |||
|]||]||21 July 1668||1699-1713||18 December 1713|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>23 April 1699<br>]<br>no children<br><br>]<br>27 February 1702<br>]<br>two children|| Son of Maurice. Received from his brother the towns of Pegau and Neustadt. Left no male descendants. His lands returned to Saxe-Zeitz. | |||
|- style="background:#dcc;" | |||
|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Zeitz-Pegau-Neustadt merged in ]'' | |||
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|]||]||20 November 1673||1711-1715||16 April 1715|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>13 February 1711<br>]<br>no children||Son of Augustus. His brother John Adolph gave him in 1711 Saxe-Weissenfels-Dahme. After his death Dahme was reabsorbed by Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt. | |||
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|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Weissenfels-Dahme merged in ]'' | |||
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|]||]||23 February 1682||1712-1736||28 June 1736|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br> 12 May 1712<br>]<br>no children||Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother John Adolf. | |||
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|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Weissenfels-Barby merged in ]'' | |||
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|]||]||2 September 1661||1731-1738||28 July 1738|| ''Albertine''<br>]||]<br>29 March 1692<br>]<br>three children|| In 1731 succeeded in Saxe-Merseburg, reuniting its original lands with those he unexpectedly inherited. Left no descendants and Saxe-Merseburg merged in the Electorate of Saxony. | |||
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|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Merseburg merged in the ]'' | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich August II)''||]||17 October 1696||1 February 1733 - 5 October 1763||5 October 1763|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>20 August 1719<br>]<br>sixteen children|| Son of Frederick Augustus I. Converted to Catholicism 1712. King of Poland 1734–1763. | |||
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|colspan=8 align="center"|''Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt merged in the ] '' | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich Christian)''||]||5 September 1722||5 October 1763 - 17 December 1763||17 December 1763|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>13 June 1747<br>]<br>''(by proxy)''<br>20 June 1747<br>]<br>''(in person)''<br>nine children|| Son of Frederick Augustus II, raised Catholic. | |||
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|'']'' (regent)||]||18 July 1724||17 December 1763 - c.1768||23 April 1780|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>13 June 1747<br>]<br>''(by proxy)''<br>20 June 1747<br>]<br>''(in person)''<br>nine children|| Regent on behalf of her son and heir, Frederick Augustus. | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich August III)''||]||23 December 1750||c.1768 - 20 December 1806||5 May 1827|| ''Albertine''<br>''']'''||''']'''<br>17 January 1769<br>]<br>''(by proxy)''<br>29 January 1769<br>]<br>''(in person)''<br>four children|| Son of Frederick Christian. His Electorate ceased with the fall of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806, and he became King of Saxony. | |||
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|colspan=8 align="center"|In 1806 The Elector of Saxony became king of an independent Kingdom of Saxony. For the kings that followed the electors, see below the ]. For the multiple duchies that were contemporaries of this kingdom, see the later entries under ]. | |||
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The Holy Roman Empire was dissolved in 1806. The Elector of Saxony, allied to Napoleon I, became King of an independent Saxony. The numbering resets in this point. | |||
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I'm not sure why your prefer one over the other but I prefer the last miniature image primarily because it is somewhat easier to actually distinguish the image of Muhammad. For me it is a minor point though and I was only reverting to Alecmconroy per his editorial comment. {{User:Netscott/s1.js}} 00:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
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! colspan=2 | Ruler!!Born!!Reign!!Death!!Ruling part!!Consort!!Notes | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich August I)''||]||23 December 1750||20 December 1806 - 5 May 1827||5 May 1827|| ''']'''||''']'''<br>17 January 1769<br>]<br>''(by proxy)''<br>29 January 1769<br>]<br>''(in person)''<br>four children|| In 1806 became King of Saxony. Also ] 1807–1813. Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Anton der Gütige)''||]||27 December 1755||5 May 1827 - 6 June 1836||6 June 1836|| ''']'''||]<br>29 September 1781<br>]<br>''(by proxy)''<br>24 October 1781<br>]<br>''(in person)''<br>four children<br><br>''']'''<br>8 September 1787<br>]<br>''(by proxy)''<br>18 October 1787<br>]<br>''(in person)''<br>four children|| Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his nephew. | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich August II)''||]||18 May 1797||6 June 1836 - 9 August 1854||9 August 1854|| ''']'''||]<br>26 September 1819<br>]<br>''(by proxy)''<br>7 October 1819<br>]<br>''(by person)''<br>no children<br><br>''']'''<br>24 April 1833<br>]<br>no children|| Son of ]. Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Johann I)''||]||12 December 1801||9 August 1854 - 29 October 1873||29 October 1873|| ''']'''||''']'''<br>10 November 1822<br>]<br>''(by proxy)''<br>21 November 1822<br>]<br>''(in person)''<br>nine children|| Saxony became part of a ] in 1871. | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Albrecht I)''||]||23 April 1828||29 October 1873 - 19 June 1902||19 June 1902|| ''']'''||''']'''<br>18 June 1853<br>]<br>no children|| | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Georg)''||]||8 August 1832||19 June 1902 - 15 October 1904||15 October 1904|| ''']'''||]<br>11 May 1859<br>]<br>eight children|| | |||
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|''']'''<br>''(Friedrich August III)''||]||25 May 1865||15 October 1904 - 13 November 1918||18 February 1932|| ''']'''||]<br>21 November 1891<br>]<br>''(annulled by royal decree in 1903, after her escape from court)''<br>seven children|| The last King of Saxony. Abdicated in the ].<ref>http://www.sachsen.de/en/274.htm</ref> | |||
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1.The Sudetendeutsche Partei was also formed from parts of the Deutsche Nationalpartei, which is different from the Deutsche Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei. So the Sudeten German Party is not simply a successor of the DNSAP. Shouldn't we separate these things from the article? ] 01:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, the article doesnt really do justice to a party that won a "landslide victory" in 1935, upsetting everyone. The DNSAP was outlawed in 1933, but unfortunately Masaryk did not try to outlaw the ''Heimatfront'', not that that would have put an end to the political turmoil. ] 02:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
2.What about German National(s) Party or just German Party? ] 01:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
According to the Ordnance Survey maps the street name is Parade, no definite article. ] (]) 20:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
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:And still, everybody in Leamington calls it "The Parade". Even if the article were not part of the name, in a sentence the article (in this case definitely lower case) has to be included. The article does this in each and every other occurence. Reverting the article back out in this one occurence is obviously wrong. ] ] 21:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
::And your source for claiming that everybody in Leamington Spa calls it that is? the article should not be part of the link. ] (]) 08:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
::I've lived there. Which "link" are you talking about? ] ] 20:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::The fact that you lived there is not a reliable source. ] (]) 21:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::Neither is your insistence that in one instance (and only one) the street must be named without the article. ] ] 22:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::I've supplied a source for that, Ordnance Survey. ] (]) 08:10, 17 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::You've supplied no source for your claim that in a sentence the (supposedly official) street name "Parade" should not be prefaced with an article. And since you seem to care nothing for consistency, I cannot take your argument seriously. ] ] 15:48, 17 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I am not insisting that it should apply in only one instance. That is your interpretation. I am stating the name is '''Parade''' without an article, as shown in the street signs and on the relevant Ordnance survey maps. ] (]) 15:57, 17 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Have you even read the article on that street and the references given there, including . ] ] 17:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
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I had created ] (DAP), but there is some overlap with the ] article. Should we rename the latter to the ] (DNSAP) (we need a ] as well I guess)? I can imagine an article about "Austrian National Socialism," but this is not what the Austrian National Socialism article talks about. ] 01:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, Str1977, I've come across you at some Christianity-related articles, and I see from your "about me" page that you're German, or at least that German is your native language. I studied German at school, but I don't have a great deal of confidence with it. Today I was adding an image of ] to French Misplaced Pages, and I decided to be ] and register an account with German Misplaced Pages. I , but I just put "Eismaschine" as the caption, as I wasn't sure what adjective to use. I'd like to add a picture of ] to ] and ] to ]. I'd be grateful if you could suggest a caption for the pictures. In particular, I'd appreciate some help with the yoghurt maker. As you can see ], when I added it to the article, I said "A yoghurt-making kit, with container, thermosflask, and thermometer." No hurry at all. The articles aren't crying out in desperation for some images! Thanks. ] ] 12:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I seem to recall that you spent some time looking over sources on the apostles recently. I wonder if you could look over the latest revision of this article (and also ]), I have tried to keep to the identifications that were laid out last month, while making the various conflations of identity clear -- ] 16:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Sorry for overdoing my revert when it came to the infobox. Your changes to his stint as minister without portfolio did have the correct info (although I had to make a change today to get the chancellors to display). But I am going to insist on President Friedrich Ebert - you're right that he wasn't minister president as the article originally said, but he was elected president by the National Assembly on 11 Feb 1919. Hope we're good now? ] (]) 11:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:You showed no reasoning behind your repeated reverting of my changes - and "unnecessary" is not a legitimate reasoning. ] ] 16:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
::If you've been here 19 years you would know about: A) ], and B) not accusing someone of ownership just because they're undoing your edits. Unnecessary is legitimate, I can write "not an improvement" if you'd prefer but the same message is delivered. We also have a spoken version of the article on top of it being a Featured Article so changes should have a significant reasoning behind them. For example you moved content about casting of minor characters above main characters for no reason. That would not be an improvement. You keep saying that George was not spying on Lorraine despite him being outside her house peeping into a bedroom window and not being quite as pregnant as her mom, and changing the credit for Lorraine Baines McFly to Lorraine Baines/McFly, when noone uses a slash in a double surname, at least not in English. You can feel your edits were warranted and WP: BRD would tell you to take it to the talk page to discuss it and gain support, my opinion is they were negative for the article and so I restored it to it's agreed upon and supported version. That's not a reason to take it personally. EDIT: I can also see you've changed Lorraine's name on the character list to Lorraine Baines/McFly with a note saying she was never Baines McFly, and yet . ] (]) 16:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::The "double surname" doesn't exist. She is first called Baines, then McFly. The "official site" is no reliable source for that. Only the film is. ] ] 16:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::::It is ownership to blanket revert any changes to an article even though can only claim that they are "unnecessary" or "not an improvement". ] ] 17:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Winkler: "Überdies wurde Deutschland seit dem 3. Oktober 1918 de facto und seit dem 28. Oktober de jure parlamentarisch regiert." | |||
First, you should make sure that your edit summaries are civil, and avoid personal attacks; this is treated more seriously in edit summaries than in other contexts. Secondly, reverting an incorrect change (with an explanation) is hardly "stonewalling"; it's doing what an editor should do. Thirdly, I don't understand the insistence on explaining exactly what Christ Church is; that's what the link is for. You don't feel the need to explain the Oxford collegiate system, etc. (and nor should you) — what's the difference? --] (]) 15:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
I'll leave it here and let you decide if de jure is an "empty" phrase. (Your last update is grammatically incorrect and needs to be changed anyway.) ] (]) 11:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
:As I stated on your talk page (but you might not have read it yet, as I was still typing) I reject your characterisation of my edit as incorrect. Badly worded maybe, but not incorrect. I consider this incivil too. If you don't understand the need that's your loss. I don't care. But why do you have to hinder other editors from providing information? ] ] 15:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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::Explaining in the edit summary is a start, but sources need to be given to back up the explanation. If someone changed the article on, say, ], to say that he was an Egyptian pharaoah, we shouldn't accept it just because they explained what they'd done in the edit summary — we'd ask for sources... | |||
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I've responded to the point about Christ Church at the article's Talk page. Your edits to other articles included changing "annexed by" to "integrated into" (or something like that; I'm quoting from memory) — that's the sort of thing that needs a source. | |||
:By definition, a homosexual woman is called lesbian, a homosexual man is called gay. Citations misusing these terms is no reason for WP to follow suite. Also, the consensus on the talk page favours "lesbian". ] ] 20:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Aw, thanks Str! Not that it bothered me too much; I ''do'' have a funny name, to those of limited understanding. It is my greatest hope that users are forced to scour Latin and Greek dictionaries in search of the relevant roots. I'm pro- "for" a- "not" bi- "two"...then what? Therein lies challenge. | |||
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Anyhow, that IP among a number of others is most likely an anonpuppet of Bless sins. I'm surprised and disappointed, as I'd no reason to think Bless sins inclined to engage in personal attacks, vandalism, vote-stacking or disruption, but that is what I have been reluctantly forced to conclude.] 09:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hi Str1977. Is there some sort of ] that you would like to try at this point? --] (]) 17:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:The main ingredient to dispute resolution I see WP:RS and WP:NPOV, i.e. no more trying to remove sources by using this reasoning or that reasoning. In my latest edit I have worked entirely on sources already present in the discussion before and stuck closely to what they said. ] ] 18:36, 14 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:PS. And no more bullying tactics like . ] ] 18:37, 14 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::From my perspective, you appear incapable of behaving in a manner that you are asking of me, and are projecting the problems you are causing on me. If you can change your behavior radically, then we might proceed along these lines, but it doesn't seem likely. | |||
::I'll try to come up with something that might work... --] (]) 18:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Indeed, if you change your behaviour radically, we might proceed. But as it is now, it has been a few years that I have encountered POV pushing that was that blatant. It is up to you to change your behaviour. I am not asking miracles of you. ] ] 19:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Point out anything at all that is clearly problematic that I've done, and I'll do my best to rectify it. --] (]) 18:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::I already pointed it out - and so did the admin who removed the entire section: including one side of the issue while removing the other is clearly problematic. ] ] 20:21, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::PS. You wrote on talk: "Regarding "...has since distanced herself...", we have not been able to find a reliable source for the content, so inclusion would violate BLP and POV." | |||
:::::This is a false claim and your part, as you very well know. It has been sourced to RS. ] ] 20:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::{{tq|including one side of the issue while removing the other is clearly problematic}} You're misrepresenting the situation. There's an open RfC on those very topics. | |||
::::::{{tq|It has been sourced to RS.}} What source is that? --] (]) 16:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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The Younger Saxony: The Duchy and the Electorate
The new dukes replaced the Saxon horse emblem () and introduced their Ascanian family colours and emblem () added by a bendwise crancelin, symbolising the Saxon ducal crown, as new coat-of-arms of Saxony (). The later rulers of the House of Wettin adopted the Ascanian coat-of-arms.
House of Ascania
Partitions of Saxony under Ascanian rule
Duchy of Saxony (1180-1296) | ||||
Duchy of Saxe-Wittenberg (1296-1356) |
Duchy of Saxe-Lauenburg (1296-1303) | |||
Duchy of Saxe-Mölln (1303-1315) |
Duchy of Saxe-Bergdorf-Lauenburg (1303-1315) |
Duchy of Saxe-Ratzeburg (1303-1315) | ||
Duchy of Saxe-Bergdorf-Mölln (1315-1401) |
Duchy of Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg (1315-1401) | |||
Electorate of Saxe-Wittenberg (1356-1422) | ||||
Duchy of Saxe-Lauenburg (1401-1689) |
The Ascanian Dynasty continued in Saxe-Lauenburg until 1689, but after the Lauenburg line had finally lost the Saxon Electorate to the Wittenberg line in 1356 and failed to obtain the succession in the Electorate after 1422, recognition of the Dukes of Saxe-Lauenburg as Dukes of Saxony waned. To follow the remnant House of Ascania in Saxe-Lauenburg, follow this table. For the following Electors of Saxony, see below the House of Wettin.
Table of rulers
(Note: Both lines follow the numbering established in this table until 1296. From 1296 on, each line follows independently the succession of Saxon dukes until 1296)
Ruler (Lifespan) |
Born | Reign | Death | Consort | Notes | |
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Bernard III (c.1134- 2 February 1212) |
1180-1212 Duke of Saxony |
Brigitte of Denmark six children Sophia of Thuringia one child Judith of Poland c.1173 no children |
Also Count of Ballenstedt and Prince of Anhalt. | |||
Albert I (c.1175- 7 October 1260) |
1212-1260 Duke of Saxony |
Agnes of Austria 1222 five children Agnes of Thuringia 1238 three children Helene of Brunswick-Lüneburg 1247 five children |
Father of the following two dukes | |||
Albert II (1250- 25 August 1298) |
1260-1296 Duke of Saxony |
Agnes of Austria 1282 six children |
Until 1282, the brothers John I and Albert II ruled jointly. From John I's abdication in 1282, Albert shared rule with his minor nephews, sons of John I: John II, Albert III and Eric I. In 1296 they divided the land. Albert II retained Saxe-Wittenberg, and became the head of the elder Saxon Line, while his nephews ruled together in Saxe-Lauenburg, becoming the founders of the younger Saxon Line. | |||
John I (1249- 30 July 1285) |
1260-1282 Duke of Saxony |
Ingeborg Birgersdotter of Sweden 1270 eight children | ||||
John II (1275- 22 April 1322) |
1282-1296 Dukes of Saxony |
Elizabeth of Holstein-Rendsburg 1315 one child | ||||
Eric I (1280-1360) |
Elisabeth of Pomerania 1316 or 1318 four children | |||||
Albert III (1281-1308) |
Margaret of Brandenburg-Salzwedel 1302 two children | |||||
In 1296 Albert II and his nephews Albert III, Eric I, and John II ended their joint rule and partitioned Saxony into the Lauenburg line, where Albert III, Eric I, and John II continued to rule jointly until 1303, and the Wittenberg line, where Albert II continued as sole ruler until 1298. Since the Duke of Saxony was considered one of the prince-electors choosing a new Holy Roman Emperor, conflict arose between the lines of Lauenburg and Wittenberg over the issue of who should cast Saxony's vote. In 1314 both lines found themselves on different sides in a double election. Eventually, the Dukes of Saxe-Wittenberg succeeded in 1356 after the promulgation of the Golden Bull. To distinguish him from other rulers bearing the title Duke of Saxony, he was commonly called Elector of Saxony. | ||||||
Albert II | 1250 | 1296-1298 Duke of Saxe-Wittenberg |
25 August 1298 | Agnes of Austria 1282 six children |
Became sole ruler of Saxe-Wittenberg. | |
John II | 1275 | 1296-1303 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
22 April 1322 | Elizabeth of Holstein-Rendsburg 1315 one child |
Ruled jointly until 1303, when they divided once more the territory between them. | |
Eric I | 1280 | 1360 | Elisabeth of Pomerania 1316 or 1318 four children | |||
Albert III | 1281 | 1308 | Margaret of Brandenburg-Salzwedel 1302 two children | |||
Rudolph I | 1284 | 1298-1356 Dukes of Saxe-Wittenberg |
12 March 1356 | Jutta of Brandenburg 1298 eight children Kunigunde of Poland 28 August 1328 one child Agnes of Lindow-Ruppin 1333 three children |
In January 1356 the Golden Bull confirmed Rudolf I as the legitimate Saxon Prince-Elector, thus the rulers of Saxe-Wittenberg are conceived as Electors of Saxony. | |
John II | 1275 | 1303-1315 Duke of Saxe-Mölln |
22 April 1322 | Elizabeth of Holstein-Rendsburg 1315 one child |
In 1315 he realigned the territory. | |
Eric I | 1280 | 1303-1315 Duke of Saxe-Bergedorf |
1360 | Elisabeth of Pomerania 1316 or 1318 four children |
In 1315 realigned the territory. | |
Albert III | 1281 | 1303-1308 Duke of Saxe-Ratzeburg |
1308 | Margaret of Brandenburg-Salzwedel 1302 two children |
Left his lands to his widow. | |
Margaret of Brandenburg-Salzwedel | 1270 | 1308-1315 Dukes of Saxe-Wittenberg |
1 May 1315 | Przemysł II, King of Poland 1302 two children Albert III 1302 two children |
After her death, her brothers-in-law realigned the territory. | |
In 1315, after the death of Margaret of Brandenburg, the remaining brothers Eric and John redesigned the political division in Saxe-Lauenburg; Eric retained all of Margaret's part, but had to give part of his original domains to his brother. John ruled in Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln, Eric in Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg. | ||||||
John II | 1275 | 1315-1322 Duke of Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln |
22 April 1322 | Elizabeth of Holstein-Rendsburg 1315 one child |
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Eric I | 1280 | 1315-1338 Duke of Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg |
1360 | Elisabeth of Pomerania 1316 or 1318 four children |
Abdicated in 1338 in favour of his son, Eric II. | |
Elizabeth of Holstein-Rendsburg (regent) | c.1300 | 1322-1330 Duke of Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln |
before 1340 | John II 1315 one child Eric, Junior King of Denmark 1330 no children |
Regent on behalf of her son, Albert. | |
Albert IV | 1315 | 1322-1343 Duke of Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln |
1343 | Beata of Schwerin 1334 three child Sophia of Mecklenburg-Werle-Güstrow 1341 no children |
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Eric II | 1318/20 | 1338-1368 Duke of Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg |
1368 | Agnes of Holstein-Plön between 1342 and 1349 four children |
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John III | c.1330 | 1343-1356 | 1356 Duke of Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln |
Unmarried | Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother, Albert. | |
Albert V | c.1330 | 1343-1370 Duke of Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln |
1370 | Catherine of Mecklenburg-Werle-Güstrow 25 January 1366 no children |
Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother, Eric. | |
The Golden Bull of 1356 confirmed the right to participate in the election of a Holy Roman Emperor to the Duke of Saxony in the Saxe-Wittenberg line. | ||||||
Rudolph I | 1284 | 10 January 1356 - 12 March 1356 Elector of Saxe-Wittenberg |
12 March 1356 | Jutta of Brandenburg 1298 eight children Kunigunde of Poland 28 August 1328 one child Agnes of Lindow-Ruppin 1333 three children |
In January 1356 was recognized as the First Prince-Elector of Saxony. | |
Rudolph II the Blind | 1307 | 12 March 1356 - 6 December 1370 Elector of Saxe-Wittenberg |
12 March 1356 | Elisabeth of Hesse Before 8 May 1336 one child |
Left no descendants. | |
Eric III | 1354 | 1368-1401 Duke of Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg |
21 June 1411/12 | Sophia of Brunswick-Lüneburg 8 April 1373 ten children |
In 1401 he reunited Saxe-Lauenburg. | |
Wenceslaus I | 1337 | 6 December 1370 - 15 May 1388 Elector of Saxe-Wittenberg |
15 May 1388 | Cecilia da Carrara 23 January 1376 six children |
Brother of his predecessor. | |
Eric IV | c.1330 | 1370-1401 Duke of Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln |
1401 | Unmarried | Determined to enter the clergy, has to resign to succeed his brothers. He also left no descendants, which allowed the Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg line to reunite Saxe-Lauenburg. | |
Rudolph III | 1378 | 15 May 1388 - 11 June 1419 Elector of Saxe-Wittenberg |
11 June 1419 | Anna of Meissen 1387/89 three children Barbara of Legnica March 1396 two children |
Left no male descendants. he was succeeded by his brother, Albert. | |
In 1401 Saxe-Ratzeburg-Lauenburg inherited Saxe-Bergedorf-Mölln from the Ascanian Elder Lauenburg line there extinct upon Eric IV's death. The reunited duchy continued under the old name of Saxe-Lauenburg. | ||||||
Eric III | 1354 | 1401-1411/12 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
21 June 1411/12 | Sophia of Brunswick-Lüneburg 8 April 1373 ten children |
In 1401 reunited Saxe-Lauenburg. | |
Eric V | after 1373 | 1411/12-1436 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
1436 | Elisabeth of Holstein-Rendsburg 1404 no children Elisabeth of Weinsberg before 1422 one child |
Ruled jointly. The numberings here lead to some confusion, as not all genealogists of the House of Ascania count John IV in the list of Dukes of Saxe-Lauenburg, numbering John V (John IV's nephew) as John IV. | |
John IV | after 1373 | 1411/12-1414 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
1414 | Unmarried | ||
Albert IV | 1375/80 | 11 June 1419 - (before 12 November) 1422 Elector of Saxe-Wittenberg |
before 12 November 1422 | Euphemia of Oleśnica 14 January 1420 no children |
Left no male descendants, which led the Ascanian Saxe-Wittenberg line to extinction. | |
The Ascanian Dynasty continued in Saxe-Lauenburg until 1689, but after the Lauenburg line had finally lost the Saxon Electorate to the Wittenberg line in 1356 and failed to obtain the succession in the Electorate after 1422, recognition of the Dukes of Saxe-Lauenburg as Dukes of Saxony waned. To follow the remnant House of Ascania in Saxe-Lauenburg, follow this table. For the following Electors of Saxony, see below the House of Wettin. | ||||||
Bernard IV | 1385/93 | 1436-1463 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
16 July 1463 | Adelaide of Pomerania-Stolp 1428 two children | ||
John V | 18 July 1439 | 1463-1507 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
15 August 1507 | Dorothea of Brandenburg 12 February 1464 twelve children |
Sometimes numbered John IV. He is somestime confused with his uncle, John IV (Eric V and Bernard IV's brother) and a son of his own (John IV, Bishop of Hildesheim). | |
Magnus I | 1 January 1470 | 1507-1543 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
1 August 1543 | Catherine of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 20 November 1509 Wolfenbüttel six children | ||
Francis I | 1510 | 1543-1571 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
19 March 1581 | Sibylle of Saxony 8 February 1540 Dresden nine children |
In 1571, highly indebted, he resigned in favour of his eldest son Magnus II, who had promised to redeem the pawned ducal demesnes with funds he gained as Swedish military commander and by his marriage to a Swedish princess. | |
Magnus II | 1543 | 1571-1573 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
14 March 1603 | Sophia of Sweden 4 July 1568 Stockholm one child |
Eldest son of Francis I. He didn't pay the debts he promised to pay, and led to war with his father and brothers. Two years later they deposed Magnus II and Francis I re-ascended. Magnus' violent and judicial attempts to regain the duchy failed. In 1588 he was imprisoned for the remainder of his life. | |
Francis I | 1510 | 1573-1581 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
19 March 1581 | Sibylle of Saxony 8 February 1540 Dresden nine children |
Regained the title in 1573, after pushing back Magnus II. | |
Francis II | 10 August 1547 | 1581-1619 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
2 July 1619 | Margaret of Pomerania-Wolgast 26 December 1574 Wolgast four children Maria of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 10 November 1582 Wolfenbüttel fourteen children |
Brother of Magnus II. Vice-regent from 1578, administrator from 1581. Joint rule with his brother Maurice between 1581 and 1612. Father of Augustus and Julius Henry. | |
Maurice | 1551 | 1581-1612 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
2 November 1612 | Katharina von Spörck 1581 (annulled 1582) no children |
Ruled jointly with his brother Francis II. | |
Augustus | 17 February 1577 | 1619-1656 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
18 January 1656 | Elisabeth Sofie of Holstein-Gottorp 5 March 1621 Husum six children Catherine of Oldenburg 4 June 1633 no children |
Left no male descendants; he was succeeded by his half-brother Julius Henry. | |
Julius Henry | 9 April 1586 | 1656-1665 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
20 November 1665 | Anna of East Frisia 17 March 1617 Grabow no children Elisabeth Sophia of Brandenburg 4 June 1633 Toužim one child Anna Magdalena of Lobkowicz 18 August 1632 Vienna six children |
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Francis Erdmann | 25 February 1629 | 1665-1666 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
30 July 1666 | Sibylle Hedwig of Saxe-Lauenburg 1654 no children |
Left no descendants; He was succeeded by his brother Julius Francis. | |
Julius Francis | 16 September 1641 | 1666-1689 Duke of Saxe-Lauenburg |
30 September 1689 | Hedwig of the Palatinate-Sulzbach 9 April 1668 Sulzbach two children |
The male line of Saxe-Lauenburg died out in 1689 with Julius Francis's death. The Welfs of Brunswick-Lüneburg-Celle usurped the territory, preventing the succession of the legitimate heiress, Anna Maria Franziska of Saxe-Lauenburg. In fact, George William, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg was a great-great-grandson of Magnus I through his great-grandmother Dorothea of Saxe-Lauenburg. In 1814, after being deposed by various occupations in the Napoleonic Wars, Prince Regent George passed Saxe-Lauenburg to his cousin, Frederick VI of Denmark, in a general territorial realignment at the Congress of Vienna. In 1865, after the Second Schleswig War, the Treaty of Vienna handed Saxe-Lauenburg to William I of Prussia, to whom the Estates of Saxe-Lauenburg offered the ducal throne. Both duke and estates decided to merge Saxe-Lauenburg into Prussia, as the district Duchy of Lauenburg, with effect from 1 July 1876.
Electors of the Holy Roman Empire from 1356 to 1806 | ||||||
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House of Wettin
The Ascanian line of Saxe-Wittenberg became extinct with the death of Elector Albert III in 1422, whereafter Emperor Sigismund bestowed the country and electoral dignity upon Margrave Frederick IV of Meissen, who had been a loyal supporter in the Hussite Wars. Late Albert's Ascanian relative Duke Eric V of Saxe-Lauenburg protested in vain. Frederick, now one of the seven Prince-electors, was a member of the House of Wettin, which since 1089 had ruled over the adjacent Margraviate of Meissen up the Elbe river, established under Emperor Otto I in 965, and since 1242 also over the Landgraviate of Thuringia. Thus, in 1423, Saxe-Wittenberg, the Margraviate of Meissen and Thuringia were united under one ruler, and the unified territory . gradually received the name of (Upper) Saxony (or simply Saxony).
Partitions of Saxony under Wettin rule
Electorate of Saxony (1422-1464) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Albertine territories | Ernestine territories | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Albertine Duchy of Saxony (1464-1547) |
Ernestine Electorate of Saxony (1464-1547) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Duchy of Saxe-Coburg (1542-1552) |
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Albertine Electorate of Saxony (1547-1806) |
Ernestine Duchy of Saxony (1547-1554) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach (1554-1566) |
Saxe-Gotha (1554-1565) |
Saxe-Weimar (1554-1566) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ernestine Duchy of Saxony (1566-1572) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach (1572-1596) |
Saxe-Weimar (1572-1741) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Coburg (1596-1633) |
Saxe-Eisenach (1596-1633) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Altenburg (1603-1672) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach (1633-1638) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Eisenach (1640-1644) |
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Saxe-Zeitz (1656-1718) |
Saxe-Merseburg (1656-1738) |
Saxe-Weissenfels (1656-1746) |
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Saxe-Eisenach (1662-1741) |
Saxe-Marksuhl (1662-1671) |
Saxe-Jena (1662-1690) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg (1672-1826) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Merseburg-Lauchstädt (1684-1690) |
Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt (1680-1739) |
Saxe-Weissenfels-Barby (1680-1739) |
Saxe-Hildburghausen (1675-1826) |
Saxe-Eisenberg (1675-1707) |
Saxe-Meiningen (1675-1918) |
Saxe-Saalfeld (1675-1699) |
Saxe-Coburg (1675-1699) |
Saxe-Römhild (1675-1710) | |||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Zeitz-Pegau-Neustadt (1699-1713) |
Saxe-Merseburg-Zörbig (1691-1715) |
Saxe-Merseburg-Spremberg (1694-1731) |
Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (1699-1826) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Weissenfels-Dahme (1711-1715) |
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Saxe-Weissenfels (-1746) |
Duchy of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1741-1815) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Kingdom of Saxony | Grand-Duchy of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1815-1918) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Saxe-Altenburg (1826-1918) |
Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (1826-1918) |
Table of rulers
(Note: Here the numbering of the princes is the same for all principalities, as all were titled Dukes of Saxony, despite of the different parts of land and its particular numbering of the rulers. The princes are numbered following Ascanian Saxe-Wittenberg line (their predecessors) and by the year of their succession.)
Ruler | Born | Reign | Death | Ruling part | Consort | Notes | ||
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Frederick I the Warlike (Friedrich der Streitbare) |
11 April 1370 | 6 January 1423 - 4 January 1428 | 4 January 1428 | Duchy of Saxony and Electorate of Saxony | Catherine of Brunswick-Lüneburg 7 February 1402 seven children |
After the Wittenberg line of the Ascanians became extinct, the Electorate was given to Frederick, Margrave of Meissen and Landgrave of Thuringia, of the House of Wettin. | ||
Frederick II the Gentle (Friedrich der Sanftmütige) |
22 April 1412 | 4 January 1428 - 7 September 1464 | 7 September 1464 | Duchy of Saxony and Electorate of Saxony | Margaret of Austria 3 June 1431 Leipzig eight children |
Son of Frederick I. Ruled jointly in Saxony with his brothers, but was the sole holder of the Electorate. Father of Ernest and Albert, founders of the Ernestine and Albertine Saxon lines. | ||
Ernest I (Ernst) |
24 March 1441 | 7 September 1464 - 26 August 1486 | 26 August 1486 | Ernestine Electorate of Saxony |
Elisabeth of Bavaria-Munich 25 November 1460 Leipzig seven children |
Son of Frederick II. He was the founder and progenitor of the Ernestine line. | ||
Albert V the Bold | 27 January 1443 | 1464–1500 | 12 September 1500 | Albertine Duchy of Saxony |
Sidonie of Poděbrady 11 November 1464 Cheb nine children |
Son of Frederick II. He was the founder and progenitor of the Albertine line. | ||
In the Treaty of Leipzig (1485) Ernest and Albert divided the Wettine territories among each other. Ernest retained the Electorate and most of Thuringia, while Albert received Meissen and parts in northern Thuringia. |
Ernestine Dukes/Electors of Saxony
Ruler | Born | Reign | Death | Ruling part | Consort | Notes | |
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Ernest I (Ernst) |
24 March 1441 | 7 September 1464 - 26 August 1486 | 26 August 1486 | Ernestine Electorate of Saxony |
Elisabeth of Bavaria-Munich 25 November 1460 Leipzig seven children |
Son of Frederick II. He was the founder and progenitor of the Ernestine line. | |
Frederick III the Wise (Friedrich der Weise) |
17 January 1463 | 26 August 1486 - 5 May 1525 | 5 May 1525 | Ernestine Electorate of Saxony |
Unmarried | Son of Ernest. Protector of Martin Luther. Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brothers. | |
John III the Steadfast (Johann der Beständige) |
30 June 1468 | 5 May 1525 - 16 August 1532 | 16 August 1532 | Ernestine Electorate of Saxony |
Sophie of Mecklenburg 1 March 1500 Torgau one child Margaret of Anhalt-Köthen 13 November 1513 Torgau four children |
Co-regent of his brother of Frederick III (26 August 1486 - 5 May 1525), with his own residence at Weimar since 1513. Established Lutheranism in his territories in 1527. | |
John Frederick I the Magnanimous (Johann Friedrich I der Großmütige) |
30 June 1503 | 16 August 1532 - 19 May 1547 | 3 March 1554 | Ernestine Electorate of Saxony |
Sibylle of Cleves 9 February 1527 Torgau four children |
Lost his Electoral dignity and territory to his cousin Maurice after being defeated the Emperor in the Schmalkaldic War. He was left with some territories as the Duchy of Saxony. After his death the Duchy of Saxony was divided between his three sons. | |
19 May 1547 - 1554 | Ernestine Duchy of Saxony | ||||||
John Ernest I (Johann Ernst) |
10 May 1521 | 16 August 1532 - 1553 | 8 February 1553 | Ernestine Duchy of Saxony Saxe-Coburg |
Catherine of Brunswick-Grubenhagen 12 February 1542 Torgau no children |
Ruled together with his brother John Frederick until 1542, after that Duke of Saxe-Coburg. After his death, his territory reverted back to his brother. | |
Ernestine DuchiesFollowing their displacement by the Albertines, the Ernestine branch of the Wettins continued to rule in southern Thuringia as "Dukes of Saxony", but their lands eventually split up into many different Ernestine duchies. | |||||||
John Frederick II | 8 January 1529 | 1554-1565 | 19 May 1595 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach |
Agnes of Hesse 26 May 1555 Weimar no children Elisabeth of the Palatinate-Simmern-Sponheim 12 June 1558 Weimar four children |
Received Saxe-Weimar. In 1565 united his domains with those of his younger brother in Gotha. | |
John William I | 11 March 1530 | 1554-1566 | 2 March 1573 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Dorothea Susanne of the Palatinate-Simmern 15 June 1560 Heidelberg five children |
Received Saxe-Weimar. In 1565 united his domains with those of his younger brother in Gotha. | |
John Frederick III the Younger | 16 January 1538 | 1554-1565 | 21 October 1565 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha |
Unmarried | Received Saxe-Gotha. However he left its administration to his elder brothers. After his death, his domains were annexed by his elder brother. | |
John Frederick II | 8 January 1529 | 1565-1566 | 19 May 1595 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach and Saxe-Gotha |
Agnes of Hesse 26 May 1555 Weimar no children Elisabeth of the Palatinate-Simmern-Sponheim 12 June 1558 Weimar four children |
Reunited his domains with those of his younger brother in Gotha. In 1566 abdicated in favor of his brother John William, who reunited the duchy. | |
John William I | 11 March 1530 | 1566-1572 | 2 March 1573 | Ernestine Duchy of Saxony |
Dorothea Susanne of the Palatinate-Simmern 15 June 1560 Heidelberg five children |
Reunited Saxony in 1566, after the abdication of his older brother. In 1572, the Division of Erfurt divided Saxony once again, between John William and his nephews, sons of John Frederick II. | |
John William I | 11 March 1530 | 1572-1573 | 2 March 1573 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Dorothea Susanne of the Palatinate-Simmern 15 June 1560 Heidelberg five children |
Received Saxe-Weimar again. | |
John Casimir | 12 June 1564 | 1572-1596 | 16 July 1633 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach |
Anna of Saxony 16 January 1586 Dresden no children Margaret of Brunswick-Lüneburg 16 September 1599 Coburg no children |
Received Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach together. In 1596 divided the land. | |
John Ernest II | 9 July 1566 | 23 October 1638 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach |
Elisabeth of Mansfeld-Hinterort 23 November 1591 Wiener Neustadt one child Christine of Hesse-Kassel 14 May 1598 Rotenburg an der Fulda no children | |||
Augustus I, Elector of Saxony (regent) |
31 July 1526 | 1573-1586 | 11 February 1586 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Anna of Denmark 7 October 1548 Torgau fifteen children Agnes Hedwig of Anhalt 3 January 1586 Dessau no children |
Named regent for Frederick William. | |
Frederick William I | 25 April 1562 | 1586-1602 | 7 July 1602 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Sophie of Württemberg 5 May 1583 Weimar six children Anna Maria of the Palatinate-Neuburg 9 September 1591 Neuburg an der Donau six children |
After his death, his brother took the land and in the next year divided it with his nephews (sons of Frederick William). | |
John Casimir | 12 June 1564 | 1596-1633 | 16 July 1633 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg |
Anna of Saxony 16 January 1586 Dresden no children Margaret of Brunswick-Lüneburg 16 September 1599 Coburg no children |
Received Saxe-Coburg. Died without descendants and his brother reunited the inherited duchy. | |
John Ernest II | 9 July 1566 | 1596-1633 | 23 October 1638 | Ernestine Saxe-Eisenach |
Elisabeth of Mansfeld-Hinterort 23 November 1591 Wiener Neustadt one child Christine of Hesse-Kassel 14 May 1598 Rotenburg an der Fulda no children |
Received Saxe-Eisenach. His brother died without descendants and he reunited the inherited duchy. | |
John IV | 22 May 1570 | 1602-1605 | 18 July 1605 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Dorothea Maria of Anhalt 7 January 1593 Altenburg twelve children |
Divided Saxe-Weimar with his nephews in 1603, retaining a smaller Saxe-Weimar (sometimes called Saxe-Weimar-Jena). | |
John Philip | 25 January 1597 | 1603-1639 | 1 April 1639 | Ernestine Saxe (-Weimar) -Altenburg |
Elisabeth of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 25 October 1618 Altenburg one child |
Received and ruled jointly the newly-created Saxe-Altenburg, after the partition of 1603. None of them had male descendants. | |
Frederick IV | 12 February 1599 | 1603-1625 | 24 October 1625 | Ernestine Saxe (-Weimar) -Altenburg |
Unmarried | ||
John William II | 13 April 1600 | 1603-1632 | 2 December 1632 | Ernestine Saxe(-Weimar)-Altenburg |
Unmarried | ||
John Ernest III | 21 February 1594 | 1605-1626 | 6 December 1626 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Unmarried | Ruled together the domains of their father. In 1640 divided the land. William kept Saxe-Weimar. In 1644 William reunited his own domains with Albert's. | |
William I the Great | 11 April 1598 | 1626-1644 | 17 May 1662 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Eleonore Dorothea of Anhalt-Dessau 23 May 1625 Weimar nine children | ||
Albert VI | 27 July 1599 | 1605-1640 | 20 December 1644 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Dorothea of Saxe-Altenburg 24 June 1633 Weimar no children | ||
Ernest II the Pious | 25 December 1601 | 26 March 1675 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Elisabeth Sophie of Saxe-Altenburg 24 October 1636 Altenburg eighteen children | |||
John Ernest II | 9 July 1566 | 1633-1638 | 23 October 1638 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach |
Elisabeth of Mansfeld-Hinterort 23 November 1591 Wiener Neustadt one child Christine of Hesse-Kassel 14 May 1598 Rotenburg an der Fulda no children |
Reunited Saxe-Eisenach. However died without descendants and his duchy was divided between Saxe-Weimar and Saxe-Altenburg. | |
Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach divided between its neighbours Saxe-Altenburg and Saxe-Weimar | |||||||
Frederick William II | 12 February 1602 | 1639-1669 | 22 April 1669 | Ernestine Saxe (-Weimar) -Altenburg |
Sophie Elisabeth of Brandenburg 18 September 1638 Altenburg no children Magdalene Sibylle of Saxony 11 October 1652 Dresden three children |
Brother of John Philip, Frederick and John William. Succeeded his childless brothers. Received part of Saxe-Weimar-Eiesnach in 1638. | |
Albert VI | 27 July 1599 | 1640-1644 | 20 December 1644 | Ernestine Saxe (-Weimar) -Eisenach |
Dorothea of Saxe-Altenburg 24 June 1633 Weimar no children |
Received Saxe-Eisenach from his father. After his death his brother William united Saxe-Eisenach with Saxe-Weimar. | |
Ernest II the Pious | 25 December 1601 | 1640-1672 | 26 March 1675 | Ernestine Saxe (-Weimar) -Gotha |
Elisabeth Sophie of Saxe-Altenburg 24 October 1636 Altenburg eighteen children |
Received Saxe-Gotha from his father. | |
William I the Great | 11 April 1598 | 1644-1662 | 17 May 1662 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar and Saxe-Eisenach |
Eleonore Dorothea of Anhalt-Dessau 23 May 1625 Weimar nine children |
Reunited Saxe-Weimar and Saxe-Eisenach under his rule. After his death his domains were divided by his four sons. | |
John Ernest IV | 11 September 1627 | 1662-1683 | 15 May 1683 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Christine Elisabeth of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg 14 August 1656 Weimar five children |
Son of William I. Received the remaining Saxe-Weimar. | |
Bernard IV | 14 October 1638 | 1662-1678 | 3 May 1678 | Ernestine Saxe-Jena |
Marie Charlotte de la Trémoille 10 June 1662 Paris five children |
Son of William I. Received Saxe-Jena. | |
Adolf William | 15 May 1632 | 1662-1668 | 21 November 1668 | Ernestine Saxe-Eisenach |
Marie Elisabeth of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 18 January 1663 Wolfenbüttel five children |
Son of William I. Received Saxe-Eisenach. | |
John George III | 11 April 1598 | 1662-1671 | 17 May 1662 | Ernestine Saxe-Marksuhl |
Johannetta of Sayn-Wittgenstein 29 May 1661 Wallau nine children |
Son of William I. Received Saxe-Marksuhl. Inherited Eisenach from his minor nephew in 1671, merging Marksuhl in Eisenach. | |
Saxe-Marksuhl was annexed by Saxe-Eisenach | |||||||
John George III, Duke of Saxe-Marksuhl (regent) | 12 July 1634 | 1668-1671 | 19 September 1686 | Ernestine Saxe-Eisenach |
Johannetta of Sayn-Wittgenstein 29 May 1661 Wallau nine children |
Regent for his nephew. | |
William August | 30 November 1668 | 23 February 1671 | Saxe-Eisenach | Unmarried | Died as a minor. His uncle, as regent, inherited his domain. | ||
John George II, Elector of Saxony (regent) | 31 May 1613 | 1669-1672 | 22 August 1680 | Ernestine Saxe (-Weimar) -Altenburg |
Magdalene Sibylle of Brandenburg-Bayreuth 13 November 1638 Dresden three children |
Regent in mae of Frederick William III. The minor duke never reached adulthood. | |
Frederick William III | 12 July 1657 | 14 April 1672 | Ernestine Saxe (-Weimar) -Altenburg |
Unmarried | Son of Frederick William II. Died as a minor. His lands were divided between Saxe-Gotha and Saxe-Weimar. | ||
Saxe-Altenburg merged in Saxe-Gotha to form Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg | |||||||
John George III | 12 July 1634 | 1671-1686 | 19 September 1686 | Ernestine Saxe-Eisenach |
Johannetta of Sayn-Wittgenstein 29 May 1661 Wallau nine children |
Inherited Eisenach from his minor nephew in 1671, merging Marksuhl in Eisenach. | |
Ernest II the Pious | 25 December 1601 | 1672-1675 | 26 March 1675 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Elisabeth Sophie of Saxe-Altenburg 24 October 1636 Altenburg eighteen children |
Reunited his domains and his wife's (as heiress of Saxe-Altenburg). | |
Frederick V | 15 July 1646 | 1675-1691 | 2 August 1691 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Magdalena Sibylle of Saxe-Weissenfels 14 November 1669 Halle eight children Christine of Baden-Durlach 14 August 1681 Ansbach no children |
Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg. | |
Albert VII | 24 May 1648 | 1675-1699 | 6 August 1699 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg |
Marie Elisabeth of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 18 July 1676 Gotha one child Susanne Elisabeth Kempinsky 24 May 1688 Coburg morganatic no children |
Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Coburg. Left no male descendants. His lands were annexed by Saafeld. | |
Saxe-Coburg merged in Saxe-Saalfeld to form Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld | |||||||
Bernard V | 10 September 1649 | 1675-1706 | 27 April 1706 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Marie Hedwig of Hesse-Darmstadt 20 November 1671 Gotha seven children Elisabeth Eleonore of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 25 January 1681 Schöningen five children |
Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Meiningen. | |
Henry V | 19 November 1650 | 1675-1710 | 13 May 1710 | Ernestine Saxe-Römhild |
Marie Elisabeth of Hesse-Darmstadt 1 March 1676 Darmstadt no children |
Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Römhild. Left no descendants and his lands were anexed to Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. | |
Saxe-Römhild was annexed by Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld | |||||||
Christian IV | 6 January 1653 | 1675-1707 | 28 April 1707 | Ernestine Saxe-Eisenberg |
Christiane of Saxe-Merseburg 13 February 1677 Merseburg one child Sophie Marie of Hesse-Darmstadt 9 February 1681 Darmstadt no children |
Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Eisenberg. Left no male descendants and his lands were anexed to Saxe-Hildburghausen. | |
Saxe-Eisenberg was annexed by Saxe-Hildburghausen | |||||||
Ernest III | 12 June 1655 | 1675-1715 | 17 October 1715 | Ernestine Saxe-Hildburghausen |
Sophie of Waldeck 30 November 1680 Arolsen eighteen children |
Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Hildburghausen. | |
John Ernest V | 22 August 1658 | 1675-1699 | 17 February 1729 | Ernestine Saxe-Saalfeld |
Sophie Hedwig of Saxe-Merseburg 18 February 1680 Merseburg five children Charlotte Johanna of Waldeck-Wildungen 2 December 1690 Maastricht eight children |
Son of Ernest II. Received Saxe-Saafeld. In 1699 reunified it with Saxe-Coburg, forming Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. | |
John Ernest IV, Duke of Saxe-Weimar (regent) | 11 September 1627 | 1678-1683 | 15 May 1683 | Ernestine Saxe-Jena |
Christine Elisabeth of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg 14 August 1656 Weimar five children |
Regent for his nephew. | |
John George III, Duke of Saxe-Eisenach (regent) | 12 July 1634 | 1683-1686 | 19 September 1686 | Ernestine Saxe-Jena |
Johannetta of Sayn-Wittgenstein 29 May 1661 Wallau nine children |
Regent for his nephew. | |
William Ernest I, Duke of Saxe-Weimar (regent) | 19 October 1662 | 1686-1690 | 26 August 1728 | Ernestine Saxe-Jena |
Charlotte Marie of Saxe-Jena 2 November 1683 Eisenach no children |
Regent for his cousin. | |
John William III | 28 March 1675 | 1678-1690 | 4 November 1690 | Ernestine Saxe-Jena |
Unmarried | Son of Bernard IV. Died as a minor. | |
Saxe-Coburg-Eisenach divided between its neighbours Saxe-Eisenach and Saxe-Weimar | |||||||
William Ernest I | 19 October 1662 | 1683-1728 | 26 August 1728 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Charlotte Marie of Saxe-Jena 2 November 1683 Eisenach no children |
Ruled jointly. John Ernest was just a nominal ruler; William Ernest had full government. | |
John Ernest VI | 22 June 1664 | 1683-1707 | 10 May 1707 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Sophie Auguste of Anhalt-Zerbst 11 October 1685 Zerbst five children Charlotte of Hesse-Homburg 4 November 1694 Kassel four children | ||
John George V | 24 July 1665 | 1686-1698 | 10 November 1698 | Ernestine Saxe-Eisenach |
Sophie Charlotte of Württemberg 20 September 1688 Kirchheim unter Teck no children |
Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |
Bernard V, Duke of Saxe-Meiningen (regent) | 10 September 1649 | 1691-1693 | 27 April 1706 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Marie Hedwig of Hesse-Darmstadt 20 November 1671 Gotha seven children Elisabeth Eleonore of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 25 January 1681 Schöningen five children |
Regents in name of their nephew, Frederick VI. | |
Henry V, Duke of Saxe-Meiningen (regent) | 19 November 1650 | 13 May 1710 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Marie Elisabeth of Hesse-Darmstadt 1 March 1676 Darmstadt no children | |||
Frederick VI | 28 July 1676 | 1693-1732 | 23 March 1732 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Magdalena Augusta of Anhalt-Zerbst 7 June 1696 Gotha nineteen children |
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John William IV | 17 October 1666 | 1698-1729 | 14 January 1729 | Ernestine Saxe-Eisenach |
Amalie of Nassau-Dietz 28 November 1690 Oranjewoud two children Christine Juliane of Baden-Durlach 27 February 1697 Wolfenbüttel seven children Magdalene Sibylle of Saxe-Weissenfels 28 July 1708 Weissenfels three children Marie Christine Felizitas of Leiningen-Dagsburg-Falkenburg-Heidesheim 29 May 1727 Hanau no children |
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John Ernest V | 22 August 1658 | 1699-1729 | 17 February 1729 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld |
Sophie Hedwig of Saxe-Merseburg 18 February 1680 Merseburg five children Charlotte Johanna of Waldeck-Wildungen 2 December 1690 Maastricht eight children |
In 1699 reunified Saxe-Saafeld with Saxe-Coburg, forming Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. | |
Ernest Louis I | 7 October 1672 | 1706-1724 | 24 November 1724 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Dorothea Marie of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg 19 September 1704 Gotha five children Elisabeth Sophie of Brandenburg 3 June 1714 Coburg no children |
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Ernest Frederick I | 21 August 1681 | 1715-1724 | 9 March 1724 | Ernestine Saxe-Hildburghausen |
Sophia Albertine of Erbach-Erbach 4 February 1704 Erbach im Odenwald fourteen children |
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Sophia Albertine of Erbach-Erbach (regent) | 30 July 1683 | 1724-1728 | 4 September 1742 | Ernestine Saxe-Hildburghausen |
Ernest Frederick I 4 February 1704 Erbach im Odenwald fourteen children |
Regent on behalf of her son. | |
Ernest Frederick II | 17 December 1707 | 1728-1745 | 13 August 1745 | Ernestine Saxe-Hildburghausen |
Caroline of Erbach-Fürstenau 19 June 1726 Fürstenau four children |
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Ernest Louis II | 8 August 1709 | 1724-1729 | 24 February 1729 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Unmarried | Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |
Ernest Augustus I | 19 April 1688 | 1728-1741 | 19 January 1748 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar |
Eleonore Wilhelmine of Anhalt-Köthen 2 November 1683 Nienburg eight children Sophie Charlotte of Brandenburg-Bayreuth 7 April 1734 Bayreuth four children |
Son of John Ernest VI. Reunited under his rule the duchies of Saxe-Weimar and Eisenach. | |
William Henry | 10 November 1691 | 1729-1741 | 26 July 1741 | Ernestine Saxe-Eisenach |
Albertine Juliane of Nassau-Idstein 15 February 1713 Idstein no children Anna Sophie Charlotte of Brandenburg-Schwedt 3 June 1723 Berlin no children |
Left no descendants: Saxe-Eisenach merged with Saxe-Weimar. | |
Saxe-Eisenach merged in Saxe-Weimar to form Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach | |||||||
Christian Ernest | 18 August 1683 | 1729-1745 | 4 September 1745 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld |
Christiane Fredericka of Koss 18 August 1724 Naitschau (morganatic) no children |
Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |
Charles Frederick I | 18 July 1712 | 1729-1743 | 28 March 1743 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Unmarried | Brother of Ernest Louis II. Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his uncle. | |
Frederick VIII | 14 April 1699 | 1732-1772 | 10 March 1772 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Luise Dorothea of Saxe-Meiningen 17 September 1729 Gotha eight children |
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Ernest Augustus I | 19 April 1688 | 1741-1748 | 19 January 1748 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Eleonore Wilhelmine of Anhalt-Köthen 2 November 1683 Nienburg eight children Sophie Charlotte of Brandenburg-Bayreuth 7 April 1734 Bayreuth four children |
Reunited under his rule the duchies of Saxe-Weimar and Eisenach. | |
Frederick William IV | 16 February 1679 | 1743-1746 | 10 March 1746 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Unmarried | Brother of Ernest Louis I. Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his half-brother. | |
Caroline of Erbach-Fürstenau (regent) | 29 September 1700 | 1745-1748 | 7 May 1758 | Ernestine Saxe-Hildburghausen |
Ernest Frederick II 19 June 1726 Fürstenau four children |
Regent on behalf of her son. | |
Ernest Frederick III | 10 June 1727 | 1748-1780 | 23 September 1780 | Ernestine Saxe-Hildburghausen |
Louise of Denmark 1 October 1749 Copenhagen one child Christiane Sophie Charlotte of Brandenburg-Bayreuth 20 January 1757 Copenhagen one child Ernestine of Saxe-Weimar 1 July 1758 Bayreuth three children |
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Francis Josias | 25 September 1697 | 1745-1764 | 16 September 1764 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld |
Anna Sophie of Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt 2 January 1723 Rudolstadtbr>eight children |
Brother of Christian Ernest. | |
Anthony Ulrich | 22 October 1687 | 1746-1763 | 27 January 1763 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Philippine Elisabeth Caesar January 1711 morganatic ten children Charlotte Amalie of Hesse-Philippsthal 26 September 1750 Bad Homburg vor der Höhe eight children |
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Francis Josias, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (regent) | 25 September 1697 | 1748-1755 | 16 September 1764 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Anna Sophie of Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt 2 January 1723 Rudolstadtbr>eight children |
Regents in name of Ernest Augstus I's son, Ernest Augustus II. | |
Frederick VIII, Duke of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg (regent) | 14 April 1699 | 10 March 1772 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Luise Dorothea of Saxe-Meiningen 17 September 1729 Gotha eight children | |||
Ernest Augustus II | 2 June 1737 | 1755-1758 | 28 May 1758 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Anna Amalia of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 2 November 1683 Brunswick two children |
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Anna Amalia of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel (regent) | 24 October 1739 | 1758-1775 | 10 April 1807 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Ernest Augustus II 2 November 1683 Brunswick two children |
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Charles Augustus | 3 September 1757 | 1775-1828 | 14 June 1828 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Louise of Hesse-Darmstadt 3 October 1775 Karlsruhe seven children |
In 1815 his rank of Duke was elevated to Grand Duke; from 1815 Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach becomes a Grand Duchy. | |
Charlotte Amalie of Hesse-Philippsthal (regent) | 11 August 1730 | 1763-1779 | 7 September 1801 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Anthony Ulrich 26 September 1750 Bad Homburg vor der Höhe eight children |
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Charles William | 19 November 1754 | 1779-1782 | 21 January 1782 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Louise of Stolberg-Gedern 5 June 1780 Gedern no children |
Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |
Ernest Frederick IV | 8 March 1724 | 1764-1800 | 8 September 1800 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld |
Sophie Antoinette of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel 23 April 1749 Wolfenbüttelbr>seven children |
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Ernest IV | 30 January 1745 | 1772-1804 | 20 April 1804 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Charlotte of Saxe-Meiningen 21 March 1769 Meiningen four children |
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Prince Joseph of Saxe-Hildburghausen (regent) | 5 October 1702 | 1780-1787 | 4 January 1787 | Ernestine Saxe-Hildburghausen |
Maria Anna Victoria of Savoy 17 April 1738 Paris (annulled 1757) no children |
Son of Ernest III. Regent on behalf of Frederick VIII. | |
Frederick IX | 29 April 1763 | 1787-1826 | 29 September 1834 | Ernestine Saxe-Hildburghausen |
Charlotte Georgine of Mecklenburg-Strelitz 3 September 1785 Hildburghausen twelve children |
Inherited Altenburg from Frederick X. The duchy changed its name to Saxe-Altenburg. | |
George II | 4 February 1761 | 1782-1803 | 24 December 1803 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Louise Eleonore of Hohenlohe-Langenburg 27 November 1782 Langenburg four children |
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Francis | 15 July 1750 | 1800-1806 | 9 December 1806 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld |
Sophie of Saxe-Hildburghausen 6 March 1776 Hildburghausen no children Augusta Reuss of Ebersdorf 13 June 1777 Ebersdorf ten children |
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Louise Eleonore of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (regent) | 11 August 1763 | 1803-1821 | 30 April 1837 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
George I 27 November 1782 Langenburg four children |
Regent on behalf of her son. | |
Bernard VI | 17 December 1800 | 1821-1882 | 3 December 1882 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Marie Frederica of Hesse-Kassel 23 March 1825 Kassel two children |
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Augustus IV | 23 November 1772 | 1804-1822 | 17 May 1822 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Louise Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Schwerin 21 October 1797 Ludwigslust one child Karoline Amalie of Hesse-Kassel 24 April 1802 Kassel no children |
Left no male descendants. The land was inherited by his brother Frederick | |
Ernest V | 2 January 1784 | 1806-1844 | 29 January 1844 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (1800-1826) Ernestine Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (1826-1844) |
Louise of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg 3 July 1817 Gotha two children Marie of Württemberg 23 December 1832 Coburg no children |
Inherited Gotha from Frederick IX, but had to cede Saafeld to Saxe-Meiningen. The duchy changed its name to Saxe-Coburg and Gotha | |
Frederick X | 28 November 1774 | 1822-1825 | 11 February 1825 | Ernestine Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg |
Unmarried | Brother of Augustus. Left no male descendants. The land was divided between Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld and Saxe-Hildburghausen. | |
Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg divided between its neighbours Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld and Saxe-Hildburghausen | |||||||
Frederick IX | 29 April 1763 | 1826-1834 | 29 September 1834 | Ernestine Saxe (-Hildburghausen)-Altenburg |
Charlotte Georgine of Mecklenburg-Strelitz 3 September 1785 Hildburghausen twelve children |
Inherited Altenburg from Frederick X. The duchy of Saxe-Hildburghausen changed its name to Saxe-Altenburg. | |
Charles Frederick II | 2 February 1783 | 1828-1853 | 8 July 1853 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Maria Pavlovna of Russia 3 August 1804 St. Petersburg four children |
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Joseph | 27 August 1789 | 1834-1848 | 25 November 1868 | Ernestine Saxe (-Hildburghausen)-Altenburg |
Amelia of Württemberg 24 April 1817 Kirchheim unter Teck six children |
He implemented several buildings in Altenburg, but his government was considered conservative and resistant to reform; for this, he was forced to abdicate during the civil revolution of 1848. Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother George. | |
Ernest VI | 21 June 1818 | 1844-1893 | 22 August 1893 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg and Gotha |
Alexandrine of Baden 3 May 1842 Karlsruhe no children |
Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his nephews. | |
George III | 24 July 1796 | 1848-1853 | 3 August 1853 | Ernestine Saxe (-Hildburghausen)-Altenburg |
Marie Louise of Mecklenburg-Schwerin 7 October 1825 Ludwigslust three children |
Brother of Joseph. | |
Charles Alexander | 24 June 1818 | 1853-1901 | 5 January 1901 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Sophie of the Netherlands 8 October 1842 The Hague four children |
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Ernest VII | 16 February 1826 | 1853-1908 | 7 February 1908 | Ernestine Saxe (-Hildburghausen)-Altenburg |
Agnes of Anhalt-Dessau 28 April 1853 Ludwigslust two children |
Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his nephew. | |
George IV | 2 April 1826 | 1882-1914 | 25 June 1914 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Charlotte of Prussia 18 May 1850 Berlin four children Feodora of Hohenlohe-Langenburg 23 October 1858 Langenburg three children Ellen Franz 18 March 1873 Liebenstein (morganatic) no children |
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Alfred | 6 August 1844 | 1893-1900 | 30 July 1900 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg and Gotha |
Maria Alexandrovna of Russia 23 January 1874 St Petersburg six children |
Son of Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and Queen Victoria. | |
Charles Edward | 19 July 1884 | 1900-1918 | 6 March 1954 | Ernestine Saxe-Coburg and Gotha |
Victoria Adelaide of Schleswig-Holstein 11 October 1905 Schleswig five children |
Son of Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany; Nephew of Alfred. Monarchy abolished in 1918. | |
William Ernest II | 10 June 1876 | 1901-1918 | 24 April 1923 | Ernestine Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach |
Caroline Reuss of Greiz 30 April 1903 Bückeburg no children Feodora of Saxe-Meiningen 14 January 1910 Meiningen four children |
Grandson of Charles Alexander, as son of Charles Augustus, Hereditary Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. Monarchy abolished in 1918. | |
Ernest VIII | 31 August 1871 | 1908-1918 | 22 March 1955 | Ernestine Saxe (-Hildburghausen)-Altenburg |
Adelaide of Schaumburg-Lippe 17 February 1898 Bückeburg (annulled 1920) four children Maria Triebel 15 July 1934 Trockenborn-Wolfersdorf (morganatic) no children |
Grandson of George III, as son of Prince Moritz of Saxe-Altenburg. Monarchy abolished in 1918. | |
Bernard VII | 1 April 1851 | 1914-1918 | 16 January 1928 | Ernestine Saxe-Meiningen |
Charlotte of Prussia 18 February 1878 Berlin two children |
Monarchy abolished in 1918. |
Albertine Dukes/Electors of Saxony
(Note: Here the numbering of the princes is the same for all principalities, as all were titled Dukes of Saxony, despite of the different parts of land and its particular numbering of the rulers. The princes are numbered following Ascanian Saxe-Wittenberg line (their predecessors) and by the year of their succession.)
Ruler | Born | Reign | Death | Ruling part | Consort | Notes | |
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Albert V the Bold | 27 January 1443 | 1464–1500 | 12 September 1500 | Albertine Duchy of Saxony |
Sidonie of Poděbrady 11 November 1464 Cheb nine children |
Son of Frederick II. He was the founder and progenitor of the Albertine line. | |
George I the Bearded | 27 August 1471 | 1500-1539 | 17 April 1539 | Albertine Duchy of Saxony |
Barbara of Poland 21 November 1496 Dresden ten children |
Proponent of Catholic Reform and a staunch opponent of Martin Luther. Left no surviving male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother Henry. | |
Henry IV | 16 March 1473 | 1539-1541 | 18 August 1541 | Albertine Duchy of Saxony |
Catherine of Mecklenburg 69 January 1541 Marburg nine children |
Succeeded his brother of George I. He established Lutheranism in Albertine Saxony. | |
Maurice I (Moritz) |
21 March 1521 | 1541-1547 | 9 July 1553 | Albertine Duchy of Saxony |
Agnes of Hesse 9 January 1541 Marburg two children |
Second cousin of John Frederick, grandson of Albert. Though a Lutheran, allied with Emperor Charles V against the Schmalkaldic League. Gained the Electorate for the Albertine line in 1547 after Charles V's victory at the Battle of Mühlberg. Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother Augustus. | |
4 June 1547 - 9 July 1553 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony | ||||||
Augustus I (August) |
31 July 1526 | 9 July 1553 - 11 February 1586 | 11 February 1586 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Anna of Denmark 7 October 1548 Torgau fifteen children Agnes Hedwig of Anhalt 3 January 1586 Dessau no children |
Brother of Maurice. Recognized as Elector by the ousted John Frederick I in 1554. | |
Christian I (Christian I) |
21 March 1521 | 11 February 1586 - 25 September 1591 | 25 September 1591 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Sophie of Brandenburg 25 April 1582 Dresden seven children |
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Sophie of Brandenburg (regent) | 6 June 1568 | 25 September 1591 - c.1601 | 7 December 1622 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Christian I 25 April 1582 Dresden seven children |
Regent on behalf of her son Christian II. | |
Christian II (Christian II) |
23 September 1583 | c.1601 - 23 June 1611 | 23 June 1611 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Hedwig of Denmark 12 September 1602 Dresden no children |
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John George I (Johann Georg I) |
5 March 1585 | 23 June 1611 - 8 October 1656 | 8 October 1656 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Sibylle Elisabeth of Württemberg 16 September 1604 Dresden one child Magdalene Sibylle of Prussia 19 July 1607 Torgau ten children |
Brother of Christian II. | |
John George II (Johann Georg II) |
31 May 1613 | 8 October 1656 - 22 August 1680 | 22 August 1680 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Magdalene Sibylle of Brandenburg-Bayreuth 13 November 1638 Dresden three children |
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Augustus II | 13 August 1614 | 1656-1680 | 4 June 1680 | Albertine Saxe-Weissenfels |
Anna Maria of Mecklenburg-Schwerin 23 November 1647 Schwerin twelve children Johanna Walpurgis of Leiningen-Westerburg 29 January 1672 Halle three children |
Son of Elector John George I. Inherited Saxe-Weissenfels. After his death, Weissenfels was divided. | |
Christian III | 27 October 1615 | 1656-1691 | 18 October 1691 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg |
Christiana of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg 19 November 1650 Dresden eleven children |
Son of Elector John George I. Inherited Saxe-Merseburg. | |
Maurice II | 28 March 1619 | 1662-1681 | 4 December 1681 | Albertine Saxe-Zeitz |
Sophie Hedwig of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg 19 November 1650 Dresden two children Dorothea Maria of Saxe-Weimar 3 July 1656 Weimar ten children Sophie Elisabeth of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Wiesenburg 14 June 1676 Wiesenburg no children |
Son of Elector John George I. Inherited Saxe-Merseburg. | |
John George IV (Johann Georg III) |
20 June 1647 | 22 August 1680 - 12 September 1691 | 12 September 1691 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Anna Sophie of Denmark 9 October 1666 Copenhagen two children |
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John Adolph I | 2 November 1649 | 1680-1697 | 24 May 1697 | Albertine Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt |
Johanna Magdalena of Saxe-Altenburg 25 October 1671 Altenburg eleven children Christiane Wilhelmine of Bünau 3 February 1692 Querfurt (morganatic) eleven children |
Inherited the remaining Saxe-Weissenfels. | |
Henry VI | 29 September 1657 | 1680-1728 | 16 February 1728 | Albertine Saxe-Weissenfels-Barby |
Elisabeth Albertine of Anhalt-Dessau 30 March 1686 Dessau seven children |
Inherited Saxe-Weissenfels-Barby. | |
Maurice William I | 12 March 1664 | 1681-1718 | 15 November 1718 | Albertine Saxe-Zeitz |
Marie Amalie of Brandenburg 25 June 1689 Potsdam five children |
Left no descendants. After his death Saxe-Zeitz merged in the Electorate. | |
Saxe-Zeitz merged in the Electorate of Saxony | |||||||
Philip | 26 October 1657 | 1684-1690 | 1 July 1690 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg-Lauchstädt |
Eleonore Sophie of Saxe-Weimar 9 July 1684 Weimar two children Louise Elisabeth of Württemberg-Oels 17 August 1688 Bernstadt one child |
Son of Christian. Received from his father the town of Lauchstädt, and ruled it in his father's lifetime. After his death his land returned to is father. | |
John George VI (Johann Georg IV) |
18 October 1668 | 12 September 1691 - 27 April 1694 | 27 April 1694 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Eleonore Erdmuthe of Saxe-Eisenach 17 April 1692 Leipzig no children |
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Christian V | 19 November 1653 | 1691-1694 | 20 October 1694 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg |
Erdmuthe Dorothea of Saxe-Zeitz 14 October 1679 Moritzburg seven children |
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Augustus III | 15 February 1655 | 1691-1715 | 27 March 1715 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg-Zörbig |
Hedwig of Mecklenburg-Güstrow 1 December 1686 Güstrow eight children |
Son of Christian. Received from his brother the town of Zörbig. Left no male descendants. His lands returned to Saxe-Merseburg. | |
Saxe-Merseburg-Zörbig merged in Saxe-Merseburg | |||||||
Frederick Augustus I the Strong (Friedrich August I) |
12 May 1670 | 27 April 1694 - 1 February 1733 | 1 February 1733 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Christiane Eberhardine of Brandenburg-Bayreuth 20 January 1693 Bayreuth one child |
Brother of John George IV. Converted to Catholicism 1697 in order to compete for the crown of Poland. Took the Polish crown 1697, opposed by Stanisław Leszczyński, in 1704, forced to renounce the throne 1706, returned as monarch 1709 until his death. | |
Henry VII | 2 September 1661 | 1694-1731 | 28 July 1738 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg-Spremberg |
Elisabeth of Mecklenburg-Güstrow 29 March 1692 Güstrow three children |
Son of Christian. Received from his brother the town of Spremberg. In 1731 succeeded in Saxe-Merseburg, reuniting its original lands with those he unexpectedly inherited. | |
Saxe-Merseburg-Spremberg merged in Saxe-Merseburg | |||||||
Frederick Augustus I, Elector of Saxony (regent) | 12 May 1670 | 1694-1712 | 1 February 1733 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg |
Christiane Eberhardine of Brandenburg-Bayreuth 20 January 1693 Bayreuth one child |
Regents on behalf of Christian Maurice, and then of Maurice Wilhelm. | |
Erdmuthe Dorothea of Saxe-Zeitz | 13 November 1661 | 29 April 1720 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg |
Christian II 14 October 1679 Moritzburg seven children | |||
Christian VI Maurice | 7 November 1680 | 1694 | 14 November 1694 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg |
Erdmuthe Dorothea of Saxe-Zeitz 14 October 1679 Moritzburg seven children |
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Maurice William II | 5 February 1688 | 1712-1731 | 21 April 1731 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg |
Henriette Charlotte of Nassau-Idstein 4 November 1711 Istein one child |
Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his uncle, Henry. | |
John George VII | 13 July 1677 | 1697-1712 | 16 March 1712 | Albertine Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt |
Fredericka Elisabeth of Saxe-Eisenach 7 January 1698 Jena seven children |
Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother Christian. | |
Frederick Henry | 21 July 1668 | 1699-1713 | 18 December 1713 | Albertine Saxe-Zeitz-Pegau-Neustadt |
Sophie Angelika of Württemberg-Oels 23 April 1699 Oleśnica no children Anna Fredericka Philippine of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Wiesenburg 27 February 1702 Moritzburg two children |
Son of Maurice. Received from his brother the towns of Pegau and Neustadt. Left no male descendants. His lands returned to Saxe-Zeitz. | |
Saxe-Zeitz-Pegau-Neustadt merged in Saxe-Zeitz | |||||||
Frederick VII | 20 November 1673 | 1711-1715 | 16 April 1715 | Albertine Saxe-Weissenfels-Dahme |
Emilie Agnes Reuss of Schleiz 13 February 1711 Dahme no children |
Son of Augustus. His brother John Adolph gave him in 1711 Saxe-Weissenfels-Dahme. After his death Dahme was reabsorbed by Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt. | |
Saxe-Weissenfels-Dahme merged in Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt | |||||||
Christian VII | 23 February 1682 | 1712-1736 | 28 June 1736 | Albertine Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt |
Louise Christine of Stolberg-Stolberg-Ortenberg 12 May 1712 Stolberg no children |
Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother John Adolf. | |
George Albert | 19 April 1695 | 1728-1739 | 12 June 1739 | Albertine Saxe-Weissenfels-Barby |
Auguste Louise of Württemberg-Oels 18 February 1721 Forst no children |
Left no descendants, and his land merged in Saxe-Weissenfels. | |
Saxe-Weissenfels-Barby merged in Saxe-Weissenfels | |||||||
Henry VII | 2 September 1661 | 1731-1738 | 28 July 1738 | Albertine Saxe-Merseburg |
Elisabeth of Mecklenburg-Güstrow 29 March 1692 Güstrow three children |
In 1731 succeeded in Saxe-Merseburg, reuniting its original lands with those he unexpectedly inherited. Left no descendants and Saxe-Merseburg merged in the Electorate of Saxony. | |
Saxe-Merseburg merged in the Electorate of Saxony | |||||||
Frederick Augustus II (Friedrich August II) |
17 October 1696 | 1 February 1733 - 5 October 1763 | 5 October 1763 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Maria Josepha of Austria 20 August 1719 Dresden sixteen children |
Son of Frederick Augustus I. Converted to Catholicism 1712. King of Poland 1734–1763. | |
John Adolph II | 4 September 1685 | 1736-1746 | 16 May 1746 | Albertine Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt |
Johannette Antoinette Juliane of Saxe-Eisenach 9 May 1721 Eisenach one child Fredericka of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg 27 November 1734 Altenburg five children |
Left no male descendants. After his death the Duchy was reannexed by the Electorate of Saxony. | |
Saxe-Weissenfels-Querfurt merged in the Electorate of Saxony | |||||||
Frederick Christian (Friedrich Christian) |
5 September 1722 | 5 October 1763 - 17 December 1763 | 17 December 1763 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Maria Antonia of Bavaria 13 June 1747 Munich (by proxy) 20 June 1747 Dresden (in person) nine children |
Son of Frederick Augustus II, raised Catholic. | |
Maria Antonia of Bavaria (regent) | 18 July 1724 | 17 December 1763 - c.1768 | 23 April 1780 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Frederick Christian 13 June 1747 Munich (by proxy) 20 June 1747 Dresden (in person) nine children |
Regent on behalf of her son and heir, Frederick Augustus. | |
Frederick Augustus III (Friedrich August III) |
23 December 1750 | c.1768 - 20 December 1806 | 5 May 1827 | Albertine Electorate of Saxony |
Amalie of Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld 17 January 1769 Mannheim (by proxy) 29 January 1769 Dresden (in person) four children |
Son of Frederick Christian. His Electorate ceased with the fall of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806, and he became King of Saxony. | |
In 1806 The Elector of Saxony became king of an independent Kingdom of Saxony. For the kings that followed the electors, see below the Kingdom of Saxony. For the multiple duchies that were contemporaries of this kingdom, see the later entries under Ernestine duchies. |
Kingdom of Saxony
The Holy Roman Empire was dissolved in 1806. The Elector of Saxony, allied to Napoleon I, became King of an independent Saxony. The numbering resets in this point.
Ruler | Born | Reign | Death | Ruling part | Consort | Notes | |
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Frederick Augustus I (Friedrich August I) |
23 December 1750 | 20 December 1806 - 5 May 1827 | 5 May 1827 | Kingdom of Saxony | Amalie of Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld 17 January 1769 Mannheim (by proxy) 29 January 1769 Dresden (in person) four children |
In 1806 became King of Saxony. Also Duke of Warsaw 1807–1813. Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |
Anthony the Kind (Anton der Gütige) |
27 December 1755 | 5 May 1827 - 6 June 1836 | 6 June 1836 | Kingdom of Saxony | Maria Carolina of Savoy 29 September 1781 Stupinigi (by proxy) 24 October 1781 Dresden (in person) four children Maria Theresa of Austria 8 September 1787 Florence (by proxy) 18 October 1787 Dresden (in person) four children |
Left no male descendants. He was succeeded by his nephew. | |
Frederick Augustus II (Friedrich August II) |
18 May 1797 | 6 June 1836 - 9 August 1854 | 9 August 1854 | Kingdom of Saxony | Maria Carolina of Austria 26 September 1819 Vienna (by proxy) 7 October 1819 Dresden (by person) no children Maria Anna of Bavaria 24 April 1833 Dresden no children |
Son of Prince Maximilian of Saxony. Left no descendants. He was succeeded by his brother. | |
John (Johann I) |
12 December 1801 | 9 August 1854 - 29 October 1873 | 29 October 1873 | Kingdom of Saxony | Amalie Auguste of Bavaria 10 November 1822 Munich (by proxy) 21 November 1822 Dresden (in person) nine children |
Saxony became part of a unified Germany in 1871. | |
Albert the Good (Albrecht I) |
23 April 1828 | 29 October 1873 - 19 June 1902 | 19 June 1902 | Kingdom of Saxony | Carola of Sweden 18 June 1853 Dresden no children |
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George (Georg) |
8 August 1832 | 19 June 1902 - 15 October 1904 | 15 October 1904 | Kingdom of Saxony | Maria Anna of Portugal 11 May 1859 Lisbon eight children |
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Frederick Augustus III (Friedrich August III) |
25 May 1865 | 15 October 1904 - 13 November 1918 | 18 February 1932 | Kingdom of Saxony | Louise of Austria 21 November 1891 Vienna (annulled by royal decree in 1903, after her escape from court) seven children |
The last King of Saxony. Abdicated in the German Revolution. |
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Leamington Spa
According to the Ordnance Survey maps the street name is Parade, no definite article. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 20:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- And still, everybody in Leamington calls it "The Parade". Even if the article were not part of the name, in a sentence the article (in this case definitely lower case) has to be included. The article does this in each and every other occurence. Reverting the article back out in this one occurence is obviously wrong. Str1977 21:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- And your source for claiming that everybody in Leamington Spa calls it that is? the article should not be part of the link. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've lived there. Which "link" are you talking about? Str1977 20:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- The fact that you lived there is not a reliable source. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 21:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Neither is your insistence that in one instance (and only one) the street must be named without the article. Str1977 22:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've supplied a source for that, Ordnance Survey. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:10, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- You've supplied no source for your claim that in a sentence the (supposedly official) street name "Parade" should not be prefaced with an article. And since you seem to care nothing for consistency, I cannot take your argument seriously. Str1977 15:48, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- I am not insisting that it should apply in only one instance. That is your interpretation. I am stating the name is Parade without an article, as shown in the street signs and on the relevant Ordnance survey maps. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:57, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Have you even read the article on that street and the references given there, including this one. Str1977 17:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- I am not insisting that it should apply in only one instance. That is your interpretation. I am stating the name is Parade without an article, as shown in the street signs and on the relevant Ordnance survey maps. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:57, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- You've supplied no source for your claim that in a sentence the (supposedly official) street name "Parade" should not be prefaced with an article. And since you seem to care nothing for consistency, I cannot take your argument seriously. Str1977 15:48, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've supplied a source for that, Ordnance Survey. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:10, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Neither is your insistence that in one instance (and only one) the street must be named without the article. Str1977 22:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- The fact that you lived there is not a reliable source. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 21:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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On Traditionis custodes: please do not add claims from primary sources as if those were proven. Veverve (talk) 14:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- I did not. You however reinserted the weasel word "claim". Str1977 14:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Matthias Erzberger
Sorry for overdoing my revert when it came to the infobox. Your changes to his stint as minister without portfolio did have the correct info (although I had to make a change today to get the chancellors to display). But I am going to insist on President Friedrich Ebert - you're right that he wasn't minister president as the article originally said, but he was elected president by the National Assembly on 11 Feb 1919. Hope we're good now? GHStPaulMN (talk) 11:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- When was Erzberger appointed chairman of the armistice commission? If after 11 Feb, then yes, it was under President Ebert. But it would be simultanously under Minister-President Scheidemann.
- My main point was that Ebert was never minister-president but served as Chancellor from the "abdication" of Wilhelm II until his own election as President. Str1977 12:23, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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- I've been on Misplaced Pages for 19 years so your message here is insulting. Maybe you should heed your own advice.
- You showed no reasoning behind your repeated reverting of my changes - and "unnecessary" is not a legitimate reasoning. Str1977 16:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you've been here 19 years you would know about: A) WP: BRD, and B) not accusing someone of ownership just because they're undoing your edits. Unnecessary is legitimate, I can write "not an improvement" if you'd prefer but the same message is delivered. We also have a spoken version of the article on top of it being a Featured Article so changes should have a significant reasoning behind them. For example you moved content about casting of minor characters above main characters for no reason. That would not be an improvement. You keep saying that George was not spying on Lorraine despite him being outside her house peeping into a bedroom window and not being quite as pregnant as her mom, and changing the credit for Lorraine Baines McFly to Lorraine Baines/McFly, when noone uses a slash in a double surname, at least not in English. You can feel your edits were warranted and WP: BRD would tell you to take it to the talk page to discuss it and gain support, my opinion is they were negative for the article and so I restored it to it's agreed upon and supported version. That's not a reason to take it personally. EDIT: I can also see you've changed Lorraine's name on the character list to Lorraine Baines/McFly with a note saying she was never Baines McFly, and yet the official site says she was. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- "not an improvement" is even worse. It amounts to no reason.
- If you don't want to be accused of claiming OWNership, don't behave that way.
- If it is really Lorraine, I am sure you can prove it.
- The "double surname" doesn't exist. She is first called Baines, then McFly. The "official site" is no reliable source for that. Only the film is. Str1977 16:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- :/ I thought that would be the end of it but you're still claiming it's ownership to disagree with you and challenging me to prove things in the film. I think our discussion is at an end, use the film's talk page to solicit further input, I have no wish to interact with you further with that attitude. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is ownership to blanket revert any changes to an article even though can only claim that they are "unnecessary" or "not an improvement". Str1977 17:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- :/ I thought that would be the end of it but you're still claiming it's ownership to disagree with you and challenging me to prove things in the film. I think our discussion is at an end, use the film's talk page to solicit further input, I have no wish to interact with you further with that attitude. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you've been here 19 years you would know about: A) WP: BRD, and B) not accusing someone of ownership just because they're undoing your edits. Unnecessary is legitimate, I can write "not an improvement" if you'd prefer but the same message is delivered. We also have a spoken version of the article on top of it being a Featured Article so changes should have a significant reasoning behind them. For example you moved content about casting of minor characters above main characters for no reason. That would not be an improvement. You keep saying that George was not spying on Lorraine despite him being outside her house peeping into a bedroom window and not being quite as pregnant as her mom, and changing the credit for Lorraine Baines McFly to Lorraine Baines/McFly, when noone uses a slash in a double surname, at least not in English. You can feel your edits were warranted and WP: BRD would tell you to take it to the talk page to discuss it and gain support, my opinion is they were negative for the article and so I restored it to it's agreed upon and supported version. That's not a reason to take it personally. EDIT: I can also see you've changed Lorraine's name on the character list to Lorraine Baines/McFly with a note saying she was never Baines McFly, and yet the official site says she was. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
de jure
Winkler: "Überdies wurde Deutschland seit dem 3. Oktober 1918 de facto und seit dem 28. Oktober de jure parlamentarisch regiert."
I'll leave it here and let you decide if de jure is an "empty" phrase. (Your last update is grammatically incorrect and needs to be changed anyway.) GHStPaulMN (talk) 11:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Sonya Deville
If you want to replace "gay" with "lesbian", then cite new sources. The current citations just use gay. There is nothing such as lesbian there.: said Deville—who is Daria Berenato, the first openly gay female wrestler in WWE history... --Mann Mann (talk) 20:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- By definition, a homosexual woman is called lesbian, a homosexual man is called gay. Citations misusing these terms is no reason for WP to follow suite. Also, the consensus on the talk page favours "lesbian". Str1977 20:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Dispute resolution for Science of Identity Foundation?
Hi Str1977. Is there some sort of dispute resolution that you would like to try at this point? --Hipal (talk) 17:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- The main ingredient to dispute resolution I see WP:RS and WP:NPOV, i.e. no more trying to remove sources by using this reasoning or that reasoning. In my latest edit I have worked entirely on sources already present in the discussion before and stuck closely to what they said. Str1977 18:36, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- PS. And no more bullying tactics like this. Str1977 18:37, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- From my perspective, you appear incapable of behaving in a manner that you are asking of me, and are projecting the problems you are causing on me. If you can change your behavior radically, then we might proceed along these lines, but it doesn't seem likely.
- I'll try to come up with something that might work... --Hipal (talk) 18:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, if you change your behaviour radically, we might proceed. But as it is now, it has been a few years that I have encountered POV pushing that was that blatant. It is up to you to change your behaviour. I am not asking miracles of you. Str1977 19:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Point out anything at all that is clearly problematic that I've done, and I'll do my best to rectify it. --Hipal (talk) 18:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I already pointed it out - and so did the admin who removed the entire section: including one side of the issue while removing the other is clearly problematic. Str1977 20:21, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- PS. You wrote on talk: "Regarding "...has since distanced herself...", we have not been able to find a reliable source for the content, so inclusion would violate BLP and POV."
- This is a false claim and your part, as you very well know. It has been sourced to RS. Str1977 20:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
including one side of the issue while removing the other is clearly problematic
You're misrepresenting the situation. There's an open RfC on those very topics.It has been sourced to RS.
What source is that? --Hipal (talk) 16:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC)- I am representing the situation (thus far) correctly. You know perfectly well what the source is. Str1977 21:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- You are referring to the Times of India reference, correct? --Hipal (talk) 19:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I am representing the situation (thus far) correctly. You know perfectly well what the source is. Str1977 21:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Point out anything at all that is clearly problematic that I've done, and I'll do my best to rectify it. --Hipal (talk) 18:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, if you change your behaviour radically, we might proceed. But as it is now, it has been a few years that I have encountered POV pushing that was that blatant. It is up to you to change your behaviour. I am not asking miracles of you. Str1977 19:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)