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== Problematic WWII Chinese air warfare articles created/expanded by ] ==


== Nominations for military history newcomer of the year for 2024 are open! ==
Has anyone else found problems with our biographical content related to Chinese air warfare in World War II?
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I'm looking at articles created/expanded by ] and am running into major issues with unreliable sources, non-neutral point of view, reliable sources that don't actually mention the article topic, and very unclear notability. For examples:
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*]'s content was effectively irretrievable, and I can't see why they're notable
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*] is now redirected, but was sourced almost entirely to unreliable sources and had little to no claim to notability (as far as I could tell)
*Same for ] (see )


As we approach the end of the year, it is time for us to nominate the editors we believe have made a real difference to the project. In addition to the Military historian of the year, all Milhist editors are invited to nominate a promising newcomer that they feel deserves a nod of appreciation for their hard work over the past 12 months for the ]. The award is open to any editor who has become active in military history articles in the last 12 months.
There's a lot more out there, e.g. I suspect ] has very similar problems to those above. Help? Is it worth nuking and/or redirecting these? ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 06:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


Like the Military Historian of the Year, the nomination process will begin at 00:01 (UTC) on 16 November and last until 23:59 (UTC) on 30 November 2024. As the awards process is one of simple approval, opposes are deprecated. After that a new thread will be created and a voting period will commence on 00:01 1 December 2024 during which editors will be able to cast their approval vote for up to three of the nominees. At the end of this period on 23:59 30 December 2024, the top editor will be awarded the Gold Wiki; all other nominees will receive the WikiProject Barnstar.
== Reliability of MHQ: The Quarterly Journal of Military History ==


Please nominate editors below this line, including links in the nomination statement to the most significant articles/lists/images editors have worked on since 1 January 2024. Please keep nomination statements concise; excluding links to the articles/list/images in question, the ideal nomination statement should be about 20 words. Self-nominations are frowned upon. Please do not vote until the nominations have been finalized. Thanks, and good luck! On behalf of all the coordinators, ] ] 04:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi all, is ''MHQ: The Quarterly Journal of Military History'' considered a generally high quality reliable source? I can't really tell. ] <small>''<sup> ]</sup> <sub>]</sub>'' </small> 14:15, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


#{{user|CommissarDoggo}}: A new joiner to the project this year, their work includes bringing the American VC winner ] to GA and expanding ] from stub to B class. ] (]) 21:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:I'm not really familiar with it, but based on some quick Google searches I'd treat is as any other general-audiences magazine. Not great but, but not necessarily catastrophically bad either. Certainly not sufficient for any exceptional claims, tho. ] (]) 15:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{user|Matarisvan}}: Significant additions to Indian military history, a notoriously difficult topic on Misplaced Pages - they have also since been voted a coordinator of the WikiProject. ] (]) 21:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:I have a few issues, and as you say, OK, but not great. ] (]) 15:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{user|Klutserke}}: Second World War naval history, including the significant expansion and re-writing of ] and the creation of articles including ]. ] (]) 21:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for taking a look. They just recently published an article on ], but from these responses I doubt it is the sort of high quality- RS we would want in a featured article. ] <small>''<sup> ]</sup> <sub>]</sub>'' </small> 15:19, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{user|Wahreit}}: Can I nominate Wahreit for extensive editing to ] articles like the ] and the ]. He joined Misplaced Pages in April 2024 and has done good work from the beginning. Oh and plus 25k to ] ] (]) 00:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)


==Flag display issue== === Voting===
Nominations for this year's "military history newcomer of the year" award have now closed, and it is time to vote for who you think deserves this honour. As with the awards for previous years, all the runners up will also be acknowledged.
<nowiki>{{navy|United States}}</nowiki> is currently producing the Naval Jack, not the Stars and Stripes. This means thousands of articles are wrong. It needs fixing. ] (]) 15:33, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


The nominees for this award and the statements given in support of these nominations are provided above. Voting can be done below by adding a hash sign (#) followed by the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to nominee's sections. As the awards process is one of simple approval, opposes are deprecated.
:You can propose a change at {{tl|Country data United States}}. ] (]) 15:59, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


All project members are welcome to vote, but are asked to vote for a maximum of three candidates. The winner will be the editor who receives the most 'support' votes by the time voting closes at 23:59 (UTC) on 30 December 2024.
::Have already flagged it there but no response. ] (]) 16:10, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


Good luck to all the nominees! For the coordinators, ] ] 23:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
:::See discussion at ]. Please feel free to contribute. ] (]) 08:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
====CommissarDoggo====


# <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span>
== Featured Article Save Award for ] ==
# ] (]) 01:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
There is a ] nomination at ]. Please join the discussion to recognize and celebrate editors who helped assure this article would retain its featured status. ] (]) 16:39, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
# ] (]) 05:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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====Klutserke====
== Julian v Gregorian ==
# ] (]) 11:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
# ] (]) 15:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
# ] (]) 19:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


====Matarisvan====
Does this project have any guidelines or preferences on how to deal with events prior to the adoption of the Gregorian calendar? Britain moved over in 1752 so obviously sources published before use Julian dates but sources after appear mixed, with some converting dates and others leaving as is. As an example, p. 261 of this ] (published in 1797) has HMS Roebuck arriving at Lisbon on 6 May which is the same date given in the London Gazette (published in 1744) here ]. --] (]) 09:06, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
# ] (]) 01:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
:As to how we present it in the article, there is guidance at ], basically use the calendar in use at the location at that time, though conversions can also be given (particularly where it might not be clear which calendar is being used). Not sure on practice used around this time but think I remember seeing somewhere that generally dates in the past were referred to without conversion - ] (]) 09:46, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
# ] ] 04:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
::For articles about ships that travelled between areas wth different calendars, it will be difficult to stick to "the calendar in use at that location." Where the date relates to a ship visiting a port with a different calendar, I'd suggest using both dates with ] or its variants. Also, if you are using UK sources from this time period, take a look at ]. In 1752 there were two changes in calendar for much of the UK (excluding Scotland) with moving New Year from 25 March to 1 January and then converting from Julian to "Gregorian" in September. Note that the Gregorian calendar was named for Pope Gregory XIII, so protestant countries sometimes avoided using that name even though the change was identical to the catholic calendar. ] (]) 12:01, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
# ] (]) 07:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
# ] (]) 11:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
# ] (]) 19:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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# ] <sub> '']''</sub> 19:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
# ] (]) 17:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)


====Wahreit====
:::Thanks both. Plenty to read there. From a brief look, it doesn't appear that there is a preference so long as there's an explanatory footnote. --] (]) 19:59, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
# ] (]) 11:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
# ] (]) 13:41, 17 December 2024 (UTC)


== Nominations for military historian of the year for 2024 are open! ==
== Publicizing RM on ] ==


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Please see ] - <span style="color:#0080FF">'''''Tbf69'''''</span> ] ] 12:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
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== Publicizing RM on ] ==
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As we approach the end of the year, it is time for us to nominate the editors we believe have made a real difference to the project. As part of the first step to determining this year's "Military Historian of the Year" award, all Milhist editors are invited to nominate those that they feel deserve a nod of appreciation for their hard work over the past 12 months.
Please see ] - <span style="color:#0080FF">'''''Tbf69'''''</span> ] ] 12:44, 5 March 2023 (UTC)


The nomination process will commence on 00:01 (UTC) on 16 November and last until 23:59 (UTC) on 30 November. As the awards process is one of simple approval, opposes are deprecated. After that a new thread will be created and a voting period of will commence on 00:01 (UTC) on 1 December during which editors will be able to cast their approval vote for up to three of the nominees. At the end of this period on 23:59 on 30 December, the top three editors will be awarded the Gold, Silver and Bronze Wiki respectively; all other nominees will receive the WikiProject Barnstar.
== Publicizing RfD ==


Please nominate editors below this line, including links in the nomination statement to the most significant articles/lists/images editors have worked on since 1 January 2024. Please keep nomination statements concise; excluding links to the articles/list/images in question, the ideal nomination statement should be about 20 words. Self nominations are frowned upon. Please do not vote until the nominations have been finalized. Thanks, and good luck! For all the coordinators, ] ] 04:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Hey, could we get some input at ]? There seems to be quite a bit of uncertainty about what this phrase means (or is closest to meaning), maybe you experts can clear things up. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—]&nbsp;<sup>(]·])</sup></span> 09:01, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


# {{user|noclador}}: Since 2005 has been working mainly on articles about the Italian Army. In 2023 started a project to write articles for all the Italian Army units active after WWII. Since August 2023 noclador has brought to B-class 298 articles about units of the Italian Army, of which 289 were created from scratch. Created 145 articles in 2023 and 2024. ] ] 18:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
== Publicising RM on Iraqi conflict (2003–present) → Iraqi conflict (2003–2017) ==
# {{user|MSGJ}}: Has worked on our ] and the ] ] and ] to implement changes required for our A-class reviews. ] ] 19:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
#:Thanks. A barn star would be appreciated but this nomination ... seems excessive &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 13:05, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
# {{user|Zawed}}: Another year, another seemingly endless quantity of New Zealand-related articles. From the Second World War and articles such as ], to the 1869 ], Zawed consistently produces a variety of high quality content. ] (]) 21:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
# {{user|Donner60}} - for extensive behind-the-scenes work as a coordinator, especially their tireless work with the assessment process. ] <sub> '']''</sub> 15:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
# {{user|Pickersgill-Cunliffe}} - prodigious output of articles relating to British naval ships, e.g. ] and personalities, and also heavily involved in reviewing articles. ] (]) 06:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
# {{user|Hog Farm}} - another editor with a strong article output, this time relating mostly to the US Civil war, e.g. ]. ] (]) 06:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
# {{user|Hawkeye7}} - yet another editor with tremendous output, particularly in military logistics e.g. ]. Does a lot of backroom stuff for the project. ] (]) 06:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
# {{user|Simongraham}} - works away on naval ships, with many articles created and taken up to GA, e.g. ]. ] (]) 06:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)


===Voting===
Please see here: ] ] (]) 15:17, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


Nominations for this year's "Military History Newcomer of the Year" award have now closed, and it is time to vote for who you think deserves this honour. As with the awards for previous years, all the runners up will also be acknowledged.
== Good article reassessment for ] ==
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 17:08, 7 March 2023 (UTC)


The nominees for this award and the statements given in support of these nominations are provided above. Voting can be done by adding a hash sign (#) followed by the four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to the nominee's section below. As the awards process is one of simple approval, opposes are deprecated.
== Battle of Mersivan ==


All editors are welcome to vote, but are asked to vote for a maximum of three candidates. The winner will be the editor who receives the most 'support' votes by the time voting closes at 23:59 (UTC) on 30 December 2024.
Hello everyone, please take a look at ].
It seems to me it requires some objective input. ] (]) 20:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


Good luck to all the nominees! For the coordinators, ] ] 23:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
==Looking for input from the commumity...==
...regarding the renaming of {{USS|Chancellorsville|CG-62}} to USS ''Robert Smalls''. Just follow this-> ]. Thanks - ] 05:16, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


====Donner60====
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# ] ] 00:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
An RM that may be of interest to editors here, given how many Commonwealth military figures have them. -- ] (]) 16:26, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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====Hawkeye7====
==Armed Services Procurement Act of 1947==
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====Hog Farm====
The ] of 1949 that "the Central Intelligence Agency is authorized to exercise the authorities contained in" the ] of 1947. Despite being a relatively important piece of legislation, the article on the ASPA is two sentences long and there is no link to the actual act. I am having difficulty finding a pdf or other link to that act, so I thought I would bring it up here to see if anyone else might have better luck locating it. Thanks! -] (]) 17:31, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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====Simongraham====
RN rear-admiral, currently a stub. Would be nice to see a major expansion on this individual, given his dual naval and theological careers. Leaving him here, as not really my area, but hopefully might spark someone's interest! ] (]) 11:26, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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====Zawed====
# ] (]) 01:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Help needed for draft ==

I am currently working on a ], may I ask if anyone has any feedback or extra third-party sources on the unit?

Also the article already ]. ] (]) 07:33, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

== AJ3 Tiger? ==

about the ] mentions some firefighting aircraft, the last of which is described as "an AJ3 Tiger, a post war navy bomber". I'm baffled what that might be - neither the ] nor ] (originally A3J) seem likely. Does anywhere here have any clues? ] (]) 04:19, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
: The only references to "AJ3 Tiger" I'm finding on the Internet appear to originate with that newspaper article, so I think it's probably an error in the original reporting. ] <sub> '']''</sub> 04:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:: I'd suspect it was a ], as several were used as water bombers by AJ Air Tankers, first flying missions during 1961. "AJ Tanker" could easily be corrupted into "AJ Tiger" depending on the quality of the draft writing, with the 3 coming from a scribbled AJ-2? - ] <sub>]</sub> 05:33, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:: {{ping|Pi.1415926535}} And looking at this more - seeing as the source describes it as "a post-war navy bomber", it's all but certain that yeah, it's a North American AJ Savage! - ] <sub>]</sub> 05:36, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::* Good deal. That seems much more likely for a ''post''-war bomber to be in use around 1961. ] (]) 05:57, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::*:@]@]@]: Thank you all for your help! That seems very likely indeed. ] (]) 02:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

== Good article reassessment for ] ==
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 23:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

== Good article reassessment for ] ==
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 04:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

== The state of A-Class Review ==

Based on ], the project has 23 promoted A-Class articles so far in 2024, with only a few days left in the year. ] lists 33, ] had 48, ] had 61 if I counted right, and ] had 84. Part of this is just less nominating (I imagine the 2020 total is partially driven by all of the extra time a lot of us had during the COVID shutdowns), but this trend is a bit concerning. The robust A-Class has been a calling card of our WikiProject for years, and is a big part of why our project has historically been a leader in producing high-quality content.

I think at least part of this has been due to a decline in reviews - ACRs are often staying open for longer than in the past - I know that's caused me to skip ACR on a couple articles, and I imagine that's a factor for other potential nominators as well. This process has a strong peer-review value, especially for future FAC candidates. It's especially helpful to get subject-matter experts looking those articles over before a FAC. I know I've been remiss with my A-Class reviewing this past year, but I'm going to remedy that if my spare time holds up like I think it well for the next couple months. We've currently got an American admiral from both World Wars, a Cold War-era missile engine project, an early-20th century German warship, a battle from the Mongol conquests of the 13th century, a late-20th century radar system, and an American warship from the Civil War. It would be nice if A-Class could make a bounce-back in 2025. ] <sub> '']''</sub> 20:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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    Talk:Battle of the Java Sea#Recent edits changing scope of article

    An editor has effectively changed to scope of the article by incorporating subsequent engagements (with their own stand-alone articles) as being part of this battle. Further input would be welcome. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

    Discussion on the renaming of the article Allegations of United States support for the Khmer Rouge

    Please see here for a discussion about renaming Allegations of United States support for the Khmer Rouge to United States support for the Khmer Rouge. FOARP (talk) 17:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

    RFC on Russian invasion of Ukraine

    THere's currently a discussion about whether or not to include North Korea as a co-belligerent. Please feel free to comment. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 13:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

    Requested move at Talk:Peruvian Civil War of 1980–2000#Requested move 19 November 2024

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Peruvian Civil War of 1980–2000#Requested move 19 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 19:13, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

    Good article reassessment for Edwin of Northumbria

    Edwin of Northumbria has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:51, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

    Good article reassessment for Angevin kings of England

    Angevin kings of England has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Borsoka (talk) 02:32, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

    Requested move at Talk:RSM-56 Bulava#Requested move 3 November 2024

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:RSM-56 Bulava#Requested move 3 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Frostly (talk) 06:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

    Requested move at Talk:Yemeni civil war (2014–present)#Requested move 7 December 2024

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Yemeni civil war (2014–present)#Requested move 7 December 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Abo Yemen 13:13, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

    RM to lowercase North Yemen Civil War

    An ongoing RM to lowercase is at Talk:North Yemen Civil War#Requested move 28 November 2024. It has been relisted and may be of interest to editors of this WikiProject. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:19, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

    United Kingdom Special Forces has an RfC

    United Kingdom Special Forces has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Melbguy05 (talk) 07:43, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

    Requested move at Talk:Wahhabi War#Requested move 26 November 2024

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Wahhabi War#Requested move 26 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 17:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

    Requested move at Talk:2024 Manbij offensive#Requested move 9 December 2024

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Manbij offensive#Requested move 9 December 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 19:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

    Requested move at Talk:Capture of Damascus#Requested move 9 December 2024

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Capture of Damascus#Requested move 9 December 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 19:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Second Nagorno-Karabakh War#RfC on inclusion of Syrian mercenaries in infobox

    Please see subject RfC. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

    Requested move at Talk:Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 18 November 2024

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 18 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 00:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Armenian-occupied territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh#Requested move 18 December 2024

    Please see subject discussion. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

    Good article reassessment for Battle of Thermopylae

    Battle of Thermopylae has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 19:40, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

    Talk:Second Nagorno-Karabakh War#Dubious tag

    The phrase disputed territory in the territory parameter of the infobox has been tagged as dubious. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

    Good article reassessment for 1st Brigade, 7th Infantry Division (United States)

    1st Brigade, 7th Infantry Division (United States) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 20:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

    Good article reassessment for Mark Kellogg (reporter)

    Mark Kellogg (reporter) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

    Nominations for military history newcomer of the year for 2024 are open!

    Military history newcomer of the year 2024
    • First place First place
    • Runners up Runners up

    As we approach the end of the year, it is time for us to nominate the editors we believe have made a real difference to the project. In addition to the Military historian of the year, all Milhist editors are invited to nominate a promising newcomer that they feel deserves a nod of appreciation for their hard work over the past 12 months for the Military history newcomer of the year award. The award is open to any editor who has become active in military history articles in the last 12 months.

    Like the Military Historian of the Year, the nomination process will begin at 00:01 (UTC) on 16 November and last until 23:59 (UTC) on 30 November 2024. As the awards process is one of simple approval, opposes are deprecated. After that a new thread will be created and a voting period will commence on 00:01 1 December 2024 during which editors will be able to cast their approval vote for up to three of the nominees. At the end of this period on 23:59 30 December 2024, the top editor will be awarded the Gold Wiki; all other nominees will receive the WikiProject Barnstar.

    Please nominate editors below this line, including links in the nomination statement to the most significant articles/lists/images editors have worked on since 1 January 2024. Please keep nomination statements concise; excluding links to the articles/list/images in question, the ideal nomination statement should be about 20 words. Self-nominations are frowned upon. Please do not vote until the nominations have been finalized. Thanks, and good luck! On behalf of all the coordinators, Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

    1. CommissarDoggo (talk · contribs): A new joiner to the project this year, their work includes bringing the American VC winner William Henry Harrison Seeley to GA and expanding Michael Wettlaufer from stub to B class. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. Matarisvan (talk · contribs): Significant additions to Indian military history, a notoriously difficult topic on Misplaced Pages - they have also since been voted a coordinator of the WikiProject. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
    3. Klutserke (talk · contribs): Second World War naval history, including the significant expansion and re-writing of HMS Sheffield (C24) and the creation of articles including 8.8 cm SK C/25 naval gun. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
    4. Wahreit (talk · contribs): Can I nominate Wahreit for extensive editing to Second Sino-Japanese War articles like the Battle of Shanghai and the Battle of Sihang Warehouse. He joined Misplaced Pages in April 2024 and has done good work from the beginning. Oh and plus 25k to Battle of Nanking Alexysun (talk) 00:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

    Voting

    Nominations for this year's "military history newcomer of the year" award have now closed, and it is time to vote for who you think deserves this honour. As with the awards for previous years, all the runners up will also be acknowledged.

    The nominees for this award and the statements given in support of these nominations are provided above. Voting can be done below by adding a hash sign (#) followed by the four tildes (~~~~) to nominee's sections. As the awards process is one of simple approval, opposes are deprecated.

    All project members are welcome to vote, but are asked to vote for a maximum of three candidates. The winner will be the editor who receives the most 'support' votes by the time voting closes at 23:59 (UTC) on 30 December 2024.

    Good luck to all the nominees! For the coordinators, Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

    CommissarDoggo

    1. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon
    2. Gog the Mild (talk) 01:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    3. Wiki king 100000 (talk) 05:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    4. Internationed (talk) 16:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    5. Kerbyki (talk) 13:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

    Klutserke

    1. Parsecboy (talk) 11:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. Kierzek (talk) 15:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    3. simongraham (talk) 19:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    Matarisvan

    1. Gog the Mild (talk) 01:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    3. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    4. Serial Number 54129 (talk) 11:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    5. Donner60 (talk) 19:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    6. - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:51, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
    7. Hog Farm Talk 19:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    8. TheRazgriz (talk) 17:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

    Wahreit

    1. Matarisvan (talk) 11:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
    2. Kerbyki (talk) 13:41, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

    Nominations for military historian of the year for 2024 are open!

    Military historian of the year 2024
    • First place First place
    • Second place Second place
    • Third place Third place

    As we approach the end of the year, it is time for us to nominate the editors we believe have made a real difference to the project. As part of the first step to determining this year's "Military Historian of the Year" award, all Milhist editors are invited to nominate those that they feel deserve a nod of appreciation for their hard work over the past 12 months.

    The nomination process will commence on 00:01 (UTC) on 16 November and last until 23:59 (UTC) on 30 November. As the awards process is one of simple approval, opposes are deprecated. After that a new thread will be created and a voting period of will commence on 00:01 (UTC) on 1 December during which editors will be able to cast their approval vote for up to three of the nominees. At the end of this period on 23:59 on 30 December, the top three editors will be awarded the Gold, Silver and Bronze Wiki respectively; all other nominees will receive the WikiProject Barnstar.

    Please nominate editors below this line, including links in the nomination statement to the most significant articles/lists/images editors have worked on since 1 January 2024. Please keep nomination statements concise; excluding links to the articles/list/images in question, the ideal nomination statement should be about 20 words. Self nominations are frowned upon. Please do not vote until the nominations have been finalized. Thanks, and good luck! For all the coordinators, Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

    1. noclador (talk · contribs): Since 2005 has been working mainly on articles about the Italian Army. In 2023 started a project to write articles for all the Italian Army units active after WWII. Since August 2023 noclador has brought to B-class 298 articles about units of the Italian Army, of which 289 were created from scratch. Created 145 articles in 2023 and 2024. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. MSGJ (talk · contribs): Has worked on our Template:WikiProject Military history and the Lua Module:Banner shell and Module:WikiProject banner to implement changes required for our A-class reviews. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
      Thanks. A barn star would be appreciated but this nomination ... seems excessive — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:05, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    3. Zawed (talk · contribs): Another year, another seemingly endless quantity of New Zealand-related articles. From the Second World War and articles such as Mick Ensor, to the 1869 Battle of Te Pōrere, Zawed consistently produces a variety of high quality content. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
    4. Donner60 (talk · contribs) - for extensive behind-the-scenes work as a coordinator, especially their tireless work with the assessment process. Hog Farm Talk 15:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    5. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) - prodigious output of articles relating to British naval ships, e.g. HMS Regulus (1785) and personalities, and also heavily involved in reviewing articles. Zawed (talk) 06:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
    6. Hog Farm (talk · contribs) - another editor with a strong article output, this time relating mostly to the US Civil war, e.g. Edward W. Gantt. Zawed (talk) 06:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
    7. Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) - yet another editor with tremendous output, particularly in military logistics e.g. Operation Matterhorn logistics. Does a lot of backroom stuff for the project. Zawed (talk) 06:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
    8. Simongraham (talk · contribs) - works away on naval ships, with many articles created and taken up to GA, e.g. HMS Harpy (1909). Zawed (talk) 06:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

    Voting

    Nominations for this year's "Military History Newcomer of the Year" award have now closed, and it is time to vote for who you think deserves this honour. As with the awards for previous years, all the runners up will also be acknowledged.

    The nominees for this award and the statements given in support of these nominations are provided above. Voting can be done by adding a hash sign (#) followed by the four tildes (~~~~) to the nominee's section below. As the awards process is one of simple approval, opposes are deprecated.

    All editors are welcome to vote, but are asked to vote for a maximum of three candidates. The winner will be the editor who receives the most 'support' votes by the time voting closes at 23:59 (UTC) on 30 December 2024.

    Good luck to all the nominees! For the coordinators, Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

    Donner60

    1. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:18, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    3. MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:55, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    4. Hog Farm Talk 19:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    5. simongraham (talk) 19:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    Hawkeye7

    1. Gog the Mild (talk) 01:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. Wiki king 100000 (talk) 05:39, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    3. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:18, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    4. Donner60 (talk)
    5. Hog Farm Talk 19:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    6. Kerbyki (talk) 14:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

    Hog Farm

    1. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon
    2. Gog the Mild (talk) 01:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    3. Donner60 (talk) 19:43, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    4. Parsecboy (talk) 20:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    MSGJ

    1. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. Kerbyki (talk) 14:22, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

    Noclador

    1. Donner60 (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 12:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
    3. TheRazgriz (talk) 17:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
    4. Kerbyki (talk) 14:21, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
    5. simongraham (talk) 19:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    Pickersgill-Cunliffe

    1. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. Kierzek (talk) 15:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    3. Hog Farm Talk 19:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    4. Parsecboy (talk) 20:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    Simongraham

    1. Kierzek (talk) 15:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    2. Parsecboy (talk) 20:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    Zawed

    1. Gog the Mild (talk) 01:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    2. Serial Number 54129 (talk) 11:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
    3. Kierzek (talk) 15:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
    4. simongraham (talk) 19:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    Help needed for draft

    I am currently working on a draft on the Chinese 7th marine brigade(more commonly known as the Jiaolong commandos), may I ask if anyone has any feedback or extra third-party sources on the unit?

    Also the article already exists on chinese wikipedia. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 07:33, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

    AJ3 Tiger?

    This 1961 newspaper article about the Harlow Fire mentions some firefighting aircraft, the last of which is described as "an AJ3 Tiger, a post war navy bomber". I'm baffled what that might be - neither the Douglas A-3 Skywarrior nor North American A-5 Vigilante (originally A3J) seem likely. Does anywhere here have any clues? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:19, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

    The only references to "AJ3 Tiger" I'm finding on the Internet appear to originate with that newspaper article, so I think it's probably an error in the original reporting. Hog Farm Talk 04:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
    I'd suspect it was a AJ Savage, as several were used as water bombers by AJ Air Tankers, first flying missions during 1961. "AJ Tanker" could easily be corrupted into "AJ Tiger" depending on the quality of the draft writing, with the 3 coming from a scribbled AJ-2? - The Bushranger One ping only 05:33, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
    @Pi.1415926535: And looking at this more - seeing as the source describes it as "a post-war navy bomber", it's all but certain that yeah, it's a North American AJ Savage! - The Bushranger One ping only 05:36, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

    Good article reassessment for Henry VIII

    Henry VIII has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

    Good article reassessment for Battle of Badr

    Battle of Badr has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 04:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    The state of A-Class Review

    Based on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/2024/Promoted, the project has 23 promoted A-Class articles so far in 2024, with only a few days left in the year. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/2023/Promoted lists 33, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/2022/Promoted had 48, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/2021/Promoted had 61 if I counted right, and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/2020/Promoted had 84. Part of this is just less nominating (I imagine the 2020 total is partially driven by all of the extra time a lot of us had during the COVID shutdowns), but this trend is a bit concerning. The robust A-Class has been a calling card of our WikiProject for years, and is a big part of why our project has historically been a leader in producing high-quality content.

    I think at least part of this has been due to a decline in reviews - ACRs are often staying open for longer than in the past - I know that's caused me to skip ACR on a couple articles, and I imagine that's a factor for other potential nominators as well. This process has a strong peer-review value, especially for future FAC candidates. It's especially helpful to get subject-matter experts looking those articles over before a FAC. I know I've been remiss with my A-Class reviewing this past year, but I'm going to remedy that if my spare time holds up like I think it well for the next couple months. We've currently got an American admiral from both World Wars, a Cold War-era missile engine project, an early-20th century German warship, a battle from the Mongol conquests of the 13th century, a late-20th century radar system, and an American warship from the Civil War. It would be nice if A-Class could make a bounce-back in 2025. Hog Farm Talk 20:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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