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== 300 movie == | |||
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== Whitewashing page. == | |||
My edits are direct criticism of the movie itself. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 22:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
Hi Erik, I see you reversed my edit on the whitewashing page, describing my edit as a personal analysis. You are incorrect there, it wasn't. The nature of Heathcliff has had essays written on for decades, it is ambiguous (and more down to class) as any good English student knows, but articles written by such in Deadline are written from a particular point of view with an axe to grind and poor knowledge of the book (probably British literature in general). Yet that's where Wiki lays it's hat. I did have trepidation of even getting involved in such a lopsided page, I thought it would have it's guardians. I won't be making any more edits there.] (]) 15:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I saw that archive. Well it looked like many users agree that we need a section talking about the misconceptions. Right? And most of the information I put on the section were from the ] article, which is a cited article. So it's a fact that Persian army is usually exaggerated and that the Persian immortals didn't look like barbaric soldiers.--] 23:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Your edit summary wrote, ''"Heathcliff is described in the novel has having varying features and possibly a Lascar, Spanish or American, it is kept vague depending on who is doing the describing"''. This was the explanation for removing the '']'' content, right? Is that not a personal analysis, however educated it may be? Yes, it's a tricky topic, and it has gotten unsourced and badly-sourced listings that should be cleared out, and there will be edge cases to work through. When anyone edits, they have to expect their edit to be challenged. We can go through ] if you want. ] (] | ]) <sup>(])</sup> 16:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Sorry about that. I really don't understand how refs work, and I thought that removing them in one place didn't affect where they might be referenced in another place. ] 23:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:To follow up, it appears that the listing was unwarranted anyway because filming has not even started, so I removed it on that basis. If it is produced, though, and whitewashing still discussed in reliable sources, it can be relisted. ] (] | ]) <sup>(])</sup> 16:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for your message. Personally I'm against such a section for various reasons. If such a section existed it would be mainly edited by users who care only about their patriotic integrity and not about the film. The article would be turned into a pov-fork of ], edited by people who have most likely never seen the film. The edits we have reverted so far are already a proof of this, they all contained POV and OR, written by people who haven't even seen the film yet. The new section would become huge and the Talk page of the article would be flooded by irrelevant information. In my opinion, as long as the film makers claim an "adaptation", there's no basis to exert criticism on its historical accuracy. Whether the graphic novel article can be subject to such criticism is a whole different story. Furthermore I don't think that 300 can be compared to Apocalypto, Braveheart and other films who have indeed attracted comments on their historical accuracy. This is due to two main factors involved: Firstly the "adaptation" factor, and secondly the "political" factor (Greeks vs Persians, West vs East, USA vs Iran etc). I think that only a small number of critics will make comments on historical accuracy, and I'm of the opinion that they should not be taken into consideration (for the reasons already mentioned). If for some reason the majority of critics focus on the historical aspect, then of course things will be different, but I somehow really doubt that this will happen. In my opinion many people in the media will link theories about USA propaganda against Iran etc. Even if for some reason this was to be included in the article, I still see no reason to have a section about the actual history when there are several other articles dealing with it, already in a polemic and vandal-attractive state. I think the article needs to keep a strictly neutral position and avoid any polemic content, just like the film's creators have. The film is an adaptation of a graphic novel, which in turns deals with the battle of Thermopylae, this is all that needs to be said. Anyone who wants to learn about the graphic novel or the actual story will have the relevant wikilinks in the article's first line. ] 14:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Hi Erik, I hope when you're Online you can consider the cult films I'm going to mention: == | |||
Frankly, I think that reading current political commentary into 300 is about as dumb as it gets. I read the cited article (endnote #52), and kept sighing at the over-politicization of movies, and kept hoping it was all some sort of grand, practical joke like the over-analysis of the Family Circle comic . However it isn't a joke. There are quite simply chuckleheads who will read anything political into a film. What's next? ''Batman Begins'' as a platform for gun control? ''Star Wars'' as a burning effigy for the lack of Asian-folk in the universe? ''Brazil'' acting as a political argument against bureaucracy? (wait, that last one is actually quite apt). | |||
There simply ''must'' be reviews out here where some bonehead didn't go off the deep end and try to turn a movie review into a quasi-manifesto against the war. I saw it last week here in Chicago at a screening at the IMAX, and I kinda liked it. There is a lot of stuff that only guys will get and appreciate, and some pretty silly dialogue in it. There is a lot of sex and nudity that is probably unnecessary, and I think it will be very popular with the male gay community. What film with muscle-bound men in leather speedos and capes isn't going to be popular? | |||
It is a film about a period in western history. It is a mostly ficticious accounting of Sparta's actions in the war with Persia. While quite similar to the comic book (some cinematography was specifically set up to be precisely like the comic), the secondary plotline concerning Leonidas' wife was completely missing in the source material. It is not a movie about east versus west, or islam versus Christianity (the actual war predates all of that). Any clown who suggests such should have their motives severely questioned. It does a disservice to the film.] 09:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
Cult films often gain their status due to a combination of factors, including unique storytelling, unconventional themes, memorable performances, or even a certain level of controversy. Here's a brief overview of why some of the films you mentioned are considered cult classics: | |||
:Frankly, I never saw the modern day correlations in the film. The closest thing it reminded me of were the fight scenes and speeches from Braveheart...if they were filmed by the cinematographer from the Matrix. I could however, see the close relationships to the film that Miller drew as his inspiration from - ]. I went out and rented it after seeing 300. It was pretty tame in comparison but - and this is important - the earlier film was also considered to have been a metaphor for the Cold War, which was going on during the movie. Apparently, sacrifice in the face of insurmountable odds knows no time, place, President or conflict. 300 is an abstract about war Itself, I think. | |||
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:War fought by guys in leather speedos.] 14:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
1. Cruising (1980): Its controversial portrayal of the gay community and exploration of sexuality sparked debate, leading to a reevaluation over time. | |||
2. Elizabethtown (2005): Initially criticized for its tone and pacing, it has gained a following for its quirky characters and heartfelt moments. | |||
http://theworld.org/?q=taxonomy_by_date/2/20070308. Azam Ali speaks about how she initially saw the Persians and was hesitant about her participation, but that she found the director to be an amazing person to work with, who repeatedly was asked about the 'Is bush leonidas or xerxes?' thing, but held that it was just an adaptation of Miller's novel, adn that she agrees, that's what it is. ] 02:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
3. Shin Godzilla (2016): A modern take on the Godzilla franchise that reflects contemporary societal issues, it has garnered appreciation for its political commentary. | |||
Hey, take a look at the article, when I was attempting to make some edits to the Political Aspects, the edit button took me to the international section. That seems like a pretty damned odd glitch, and it is repeatable. Do you think someone messed with the edit button link?] 01:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
4. Anomalisa (2015): This stop-motion film's exploration of loneliness and existentialism resonates with many viewers, making it a standout in animation. | |||
==References== | |||
Why did you remove my references and then go that the fact is needed when I provided the reference? I just don't understand what you're doing so please explain. 2 March 2007 ] | |||
5. The Emperor's New Groove (2000): Initially underperformed at the box office but became beloved for its humor and distinct style, appealing to both kids and adults. | |||
==Questions== | |||
I was wondering; if a user is the subject of an article, how does he or she correct an article without running the risk of OR? As well, Let's say a contributor had an opportunity to interview a film director about a film. How is that information attributable? How can it be used and cited in an article here in WP?] 02:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
6. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001): While it didn't achieve commercial success, its adventurous spirit and unique animation style have earned it a dedicated fanbase. | |||
== Katie Holmes "dropping out of" The Dark Knight == | |||
7. Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (2002): Its artistic animation and themes of freedom resonate with audiences, leading to a lasting appreciation. | |||
Ok..... it seems that pretty much everyone hated Katie Holmes in ''Batman Begins''. She even received a Razzie Award for her performance. Her people are obviously trying to simply preserve her reputation by stating that she just didn't want to reprise her role as Rachel in TDK and that she had "scheduling conflicts." Please! Do you really think she'd rather play second fiddle to Queen Latifah in some little B-movie comedy instead of starring in one of the biggest movies of 2008? Warner Brothers is going along with Holmes' reps just to be kind to Holmes. You and I and everyone else knows that she was either not invited back or she quit because she would've been dropped if she had not dropped out. I think it's just misleading to only print this on ''The Dark Knight'' film page: | |||
8. Rise of the Guardians (2012): This film's imaginative premise and ensemble of beloved characters have helped it cultivate a loyal following. | |||
"In January 2007, Holmes had turned down an offer to reprise her role as Rachel Dawes due to scheduling conflicts. The studio is currently seeking a new actress to portray the character." | |||
9. ParaNorman (2012): Its blend of horror and humor, along with themes of acceptance, has made it a favorite among animation fans. | |||
I actually thought she did a decent job and I really had no qualms with her performance. But these formal lies are just nonsense.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 16:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
10. Bee Movie (2007): The film's absurd premise and meme culture have contributed to its cult status despite mixed initial reviews. | |||
==Spiderman 3== | |||
Take a look over there, the stupid 'let's use a screencap of Venom' issue has come up YET again. ] 03:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
11. Flushed Away (2006): While not a box office hit, its clever humor and animation style have garnered it a niche audience. | |||
:I am curious about all this talk about the image you, ThuranX and Bignole apparently agreed to wait for instead of allowing other images to serve the article until then. I am meeting considerable resistance from Big and Thuran about its placement, and I am simply not understanding why, or even if there is a legitimate reason for preventing the image from being placed. I am thinking that if this cannot get resolved within our circle, I will likely ask for an outside editor to weigh in.] 03:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I read your post in the Discussion page. I can understand that you might wish to limit the number of pictures in the article. I am not suggesting we load up the article. Frankly the sideview of Brock's head getting covered with the symbiote is not a very good image, as it doesn't explain production or allow us a good image of either Brock or the symbiote or Venom, and I recommend replacing it with a view of Venom. It is not a blurry picture, nor is it improperly tagged. It meets the criteria for inclusion according to Misplaced Pages, and your reasons listed in the article do not seem to represent current WP policy or guidelines, and in fact seem to be supporting a willful agreement between editors to revert any pictures that does not concur with where you have previously determined the article is to go. I guess what I am taking issue with here is a determination to run this article according to a set of criteria different than usual for inclusion in Misplaced Pages.] 05:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Okay, your explanation is reasonable enough for me. Thanks for explaining it.] 06:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
12. Madagascar (2005): The film's quirky characters and comedic elements have made it a beloved family favorite. | |||
== Bond, James Bond == | |||
13. Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (2003): Despite its initial box office struggles, it has gained appreciation for its animation and storytelling. | |||
Have you ever heard of breaking a plot up into subsections by location? ] is doing this, and their reasoning is "it looks better". I'm just curious if I'm the only one that thinks it looks horrible, and is just an excuse to add more images. I mentioned it on the ]. ] ]] 14:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Eh, the headers were gone, but I left the discussion up for anyone that might disagree with their removal, or want to voice an opinion about why they shouldn't have been there in the first place. Hope you are enjoying your WikiBreak. ] ]] 16:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
14. Jennifer's Body (2009): Initially dismissed as a teen horror film, it has since been re-evaluated for its feminist themes and dark humor. | |||
== 300 == | |||
Sigh, this is getting horrible. Political correctness is mad. The talk page is now becoming a complete mess too due to people registering too soon to get their agenda across and not understanding the rules of Misplaced Pages. Do you think there can ever be a thing like a sudden GA film? I mean, most people just come to dump the plot section. I thought ''Casino Royale'' would have become GA real quick and then, well, shit happens. ] 16:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Hi Erik. I don't think that saying that it is loosely based on the Battle of Thermopylae is POV, as not that much specific info is known save for that of Herodotus (written long after the fact and likely based on individual accounts and tales gone tall in the retelling by old soldiers and the like). Arad is undoubtedly pushing POV, but even a busted clock is right twice a day. I don't think it is necessarily POV to suggest that a film takes certain liberties with the mundanity of history, and a comic book ever more so.] 17:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
Jesus Christ, I hate to start swearing uncontrollably but some vandal moved the page! Ugh! I moved it back but now the revision history starts back there. ] 11:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
15. Camera Buff (1970): A Polish film that critiques media and society, it has gained recognition for its artistic merit. | |||
==Your Input== | |||
How would you handle almost entirely unsourced article? I am not even sure what category it falls under to ask for an editor to take a gander.] 01:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
16. Los Olvidados (1950): A powerful social commentary on poverty in Mexico, it has been embraced by cinephiles for its artistic significance. | |||
== 300 movie == | |||
17. Pinocchio (1940), Bambi (1942), Sleeping Beauty (1959), Alice in Wonderland (1951), The Lady and the Tramp (1955): These Disney classics have transcended generations, becoming nostalgic favorites for their animation and storytelling. | |||
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Thank you. --] 03:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
18. A Goofy Movie (1995): Its relatable father-son themes and catchy music have made it an enduring favorite among fans. | |||
Hey, I think it was ] who protected it, as evidenced by this edit.] 14:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
19. Perfect Blue (1997): This psychological thriller has gained a significant following for its complex narrative and influence on later works. | |||
: Preemptive warnings are not accusations, I just want to make sure you're familiar with ]. --] 14:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
20. Millennium Actress (2001): An acclaimed anime that blends history and personal narrative, celebrated for its emotional depth. | |||
:: FYI, ] did not semi-protect 300. is just a move-protection of the page. "{sprotected}" is the common and appropriate tag for pages that are semi-protected. --] 14:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
21. Tokyo Godfathers (2003): A unique holiday film that combines humor and heartwarming moments has earned it a dedicated audience. | |||
Eck, I don't know, somebody shafted lots of reviews into the section. I tried to axe some, but they were restored. I really don't know. I simply went and spruced up '']'' a little. As it is, ''300'' is an unstable article. ] 15:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
22. Angel's Egg (1985): This surreal anime film is appreciated for its artistic visuals and ambiguous storytelling. | |||
23. Megamind (2010): Its subversion of superhero tropes and clever humor have helped it find a loyal fanbase. | |||
Please take a look at the article. I've tried to remove some WP:OR in the form of unsupported synthesis of books written between one and three decades ago, long before the movie or graphic novel. I'm not interested in getting 3RR'd about this, and I'm barely willing to even stay here on WP at all, so I'm letting someone else know. ] 23:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
24. When the Wind Blows (1986): A poignant anti-war animated film that resonates with audiences for its emotional depth. | |||
Thought I'd give you and ThuranX a heads-up about Mardavich. He sent me essentially the same sort of 3RR warning he sent you , but is reporting me for . I don't think I have anything to worry about, but you guys might want to stay sharp.] 03:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
And of course you can comment on the matter if you wish. ] 03:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
25. On the Silver Globe (1988): A visually striking film that faced censorship, gaining recognition as an avant-garde classic. | |||
==Heads-Up== | |||
I know that you, ThuranX and Bignole recently were "warned" by ] about reverting edits and 3RR and the like. I wanted to let you know that he unsuccessfully tried to get me blocked for 3RR. It was a close thing, as the admin looking at the complaint probably only skimmed through the complaint, as is usual, and Bignole intervened, preventing the block from happening. | |||
26. Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! (Átame) (1989): Pedro Almodóvar's provocative narrative has earned it a cult following for its bold themes. | |||
I wanted to let you know that this user, and likely others, might be targeting others making edits contrary to their POV push, and if you are running out of reverts or move into target territory, it might be helpful for us to watch each other's backs. Either way, I wanted to let you know of the tactics being utilized.] 13:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Okay - just wanted to let you know, pal. Go see Children of Men, why dontcha?! :)] 14:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
27. Pump Up the Volume (1990): Its portrayal of teenage rebellion and the power of voice resonates with young audiences. | |||
28. Jawbreaker (1999): A darkly comedic take on high school dynamics that has become a favorite among fans of teen films. | |||
29. The Doors (1991): While divisive among critics, it has gained appreciation for its portrayal of Jim Morrison and the band's legacy. | |||
30. What About Bob? (1991): This comedy's quirky characters and memorable quotes have led to its status as a beloved classic. | |||
31. Color of Night (1994): Known for its erotic elements and campy dialogue, it has developed a following for its unintentional humor. | |||
32. The Human Centipede trilogy: Notorious for its shock value, these films have attracted viewers interested in extreme horror. | |||
33. The Crush (1993), Fear (1996): Both films feature intense psychological themes that resonate with audiences drawn to thrillers. | |||
34. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993): Regarded as one of the best Batman adaptations, it has gained critical acclaim over time. | |||
35. The Fountain (2006): Its ambitious storytelling and visual style have led to a dedicated fanbase despite mixed initial reactions. | |||
36. Event Horizon (1997): A sci-fi horror film that has become a cult favorite for its unsettling atmosphere and themes. | |||
37. In & Out (1997): Its comedic take on identity and acceptance resonates with audiences seeking lighthearted yet meaningful narratives. | |||
38. Gia (1998): Angelina Jolie's performance in this biopic about supermodel Gia Carangi has garnered lasting admiration. | |||
39. Can't Hardly Wait (1998): A quintessential teen film that captures the essence of high school life, leading to nostalgic appeal. | |||
40. I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997): A staple of 90s horror that has maintained popularity among slasher fans. | |||
41. American History X (1998): Its powerful themes of redemption and racism have led to ongoing discussions about its impact. | |||
42. Disturbing Behavior (1998): A teen thriller that explores conformity and rebellion, gaining traction among genre enthusiasts. | |||
43. Magnolia (1999): Known for its ambitious narrative structure and ensemble cast, it has been embraced by fans of art-house cinema. | |||
44. Girl, Interrupted (1999): With strong performances and themes of mental health, this film has resonated with many viewers. | |||
45. Bicentennial Man (1999): Its exploration of humanity through an AI lens has led to a re-evaluation over time. | |||
46. Audition (1999): This Japanese horror film is known for its shocking twists and psychological depth, garnering critical acclaim. | |||
47. (500) Days of Summer (2009): Its unconventional romantic narrative has made it a favorite among fans seeking authenticity in love stories. | |||
48. Love & Pop (1998): An exploration of youth culture in Japan that resonates with fans of experimental cinema. | |||
49. Ritual (Shiki-jitsu) (2000): An art-house film that examines existential themes, attracting cinephiles interested in unique narratives. | |||
50. The Piano Teacher (2001): A provocative exploration of desire that has garnered attention for its bold storytelling. | |||
51. The House That Jack Built (2018): Lars von Trier's controversial film has sparked discussions about morality in art, attracting attention from cinephiles. | |||
52. Mother! (2017): Known for its allegorical storytelling and divisive reception, it has become a topic of analysis among audiences. | |||
53. Prozac Nation (2001): A coming-of-age story that resonates with those exploring mental health themes. | |||
54. Ben and Arthur (2002): Recognized for its low-budget production values but earnest storytelling, gaining a niche audience. | |||
55. Daredevil (2003), Elektra (2005), Blade (1998): These superhero films have garnered attention for their unique takes on the genre despite mixed reviews. | |||
56. Bruce Almighty (2003): Its comedic premise about divine intervention has led to lasting popularity among fans of light-hearted comedies. | |||
57. How the Grinch Stole Christmas: Jim Carrey’s portrayal added a unique layer to the classic tale, making it memorable for many viewers. | |||
58. Brother Bear: Though not as popular as other Disney films, its themes of brotherhood have resonated with audiences over time. | |||
59. Love Actually: Initially polarizing, this romantic comedy has become a holiday staple thanks to its ensemble cast and intertwining stories. | |||
60. Big Fish: Its imaginative storytelling appeals to those who appreciate whimsical narratives about family and legacy. | |||
61. House of Sand and Fog: This drama's exploration of loss and identity resonates deeply with audiences who appreciate character-driven stories. | |||
62. Fantastic Four (2005), Shark Tale: Both films have found audiences who enjoy their unique takes on familiar genres despite initial criticism. | |||
63. Just Like Heaven: Its blend of romance and fantasy appeals to viewers looking for feel-good stories. | |||
64. Jarhead: A reflective take on military life that resonates with those interested in more serious war narratives. | |||
65. Zathura: While overshadowed by "Jumanji," this space-themed adventure has gained appreciation for its imaginative premise. | |||
66. She's the Man: This modern adaptation of Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night" is beloved for its humor and gender-bending themes. | |||
67. Monster House: A unique animated horror film that resonates with both kids and adults during Halloween season. | |||
68. Marie Antoinette (2006 film): Sofia Coppola’s stylized portrayal has sparked discussions about historical representation in cinema. | |||
69. Dead Silence: Known for its creepy atmosphere, it has developed a following among horror enthusiasts despite mixed reviews. | |||
70. Meet the Robinsons: Its heartwarming message about family and resilience appeals to audiences looking for uplifting stories. | |||
71. Fracture (2007 film): A legal thriller that captivates viewers with its intricate plot twists and strong performances. | |||
72. Shelter (2007 film): This LGBTQ+ film gained recognition for its heartfelt exploration of love and identity within the community. | |||
73. Numb (2007 film): A drama that resonates with those exploring mental health themes in their own lives. | |||
74. It's Kind of a Funny Story (film): A coming-of-age story that tackles mental health with humor and sincerity, appealing to young adults. | |||
75. The Mist (film): Known for its bleak ending, this horror film has sparked discussions among genre fans regarding narrative choices. | |||
76. Eden Lake (2008 film): A British horror film that critiques class disparities while delivering intense thrills to viewers who appreciate social commentary in horror films. | |||
77. Bronson (2008 film): Tom Hardy’s transformative performance in this biopic about notorious criminal Charles Bronson has garnered critical acclaim over time. | |||
78. Revolutionary Road: A poignant exploration of suburban life that resonates with audiences interested in character-driven dramas. | |||
79. Redline: An animated racing film known for its stunning visuals and frenetic energy that appeals to fans of the genre. | |||
80. Mary & Max: This stop-motion film’s exploration of friendship across distances resonates deeply with audiences who appreciate heartfelt storytelling. | |||
81. Love Exposure: An epic Japanese film known for its ambitious narrative structure that explores love in unconventional ways; it’s become a favorite among cinephiles seeking unique experiences in cinema. | |||
82. Dogtooth: This Greek film’s surreal narrative challenges societal norms, leading to discussions about boundaries in filmmaking. | |||
83. I Saw the Devil: A South Korean thriller known for its intense psychological elements that captivates fans of dark narratives exploring revenge themes. | |||
84. Ruby Sparks: This romantic comedy-drama’s exploration of creativity and relationships resonates with viewers seeking originality in storytelling. | |||
85. The Skin I Live In: Pedro Almodóvar’s provocative exploration of identity has sparked conversations about gender and transformation in cinema. | |||
86. Thesis (Tésis): A Spanish thriller examining media ethics that captivates viewers interested in thought-provoking narratives about violence in media representation. | |||
87. Seeking a Friend For the End of the Worldv Its unique premise about love amidst impending doom resonates with audiences looking for heartfelt stories against existential backdrops. | |||
88. The Master (2012): Paul Thomas Anderson’s explorative narrative on cult dynamics garners attention from cinephiles interested in character studies within complex relationships between individuals searching for meaning in life experiences post-World War II America. | |||
89. Project X: While criticized upon release, this found-footage party film found popularity through meme culture and word-of-mouth among younger audiences. | |||
90. Jeff Who Lives at Home: Its quirky premise about fate leads to discussions about life choices among viewers seeking introspective storytelling. | |||
91. Disconnect (2012): Tackling modern issues surrounding technology’s impact on relationships resonates with audiences navigating similar challenges today. | |||
92. Children Who Chase Lost Voices: An anime film exploring loss resonates emotionally with fans appreciating heartfelt narratives paired with stunning visuals. | |||
93. Look Who's Back: A satirical take on contemporary politics through humor captures attention from those exploring societal commentary within cinema. | |||
94. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, 95. Man of Steel: These films have attracted both criticism praise from comic book fans examining their interpretations within established franchises. | |||
96. The Neon Demon: Nicolas Winding Refn’s stylistic approach combined with themes surrounding beauty culture attracts cinephiles interested in visually striking narratives. | |||
97. Tamasha: A Bollywood film exploring identity through romance resonates deeply among audiences seeking authenticity within relationships depicted on-screen. | |||
98. The Nice Guys:Combining comedy detective noir elements leads to appreciation from fans enjoying witty banter nostalgic references throughout. | |||
99. Silence (2016 film): Martin Scorsese’s exploration of faith amidst adversity draws attention from those engaging critically with religious themes depicted through cinematic storytelling. | |||
100. Blade Runner 2049: While divisive upon release due to pacing issues compared to original Blade Runner; this sequel finds appreciation among sci-fi enthusiasts exploring philosophical questions surrounding humanity's future amidst advanced technology. | |||
101. Mandy (2018 film): Cult status stems from Nicolas Cage’s performance alongside surreal visuals creating an unforgettable experience resonating strongly within horror fandoms. | |||
102. Climax (2018 film): Gaspar Noé’s provocative style combined with dance elements creates an immersive experience attracting viewers seeking experimental cinema offerings. | |||
103. Love (2015 film): This romantic drama’s explicit content paired with emotional depth captures attention from audiences exploring unconventional relationships depicted through artistic lenses showcased within filmmaking today. | |||
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Hi Erik, I see you reversed my edit on the whitewashing page, describing my edit as a personal analysis. You are incorrect there, it wasn't. The nature of Heathcliff has had essays written on for decades, it is ambiguous (and more down to class) as any good English student knows, but articles written by such in Deadline are written from a particular point of view with an axe to grind and poor knowledge of the book (probably British literature in general). Yet that's where Wiki lays it's hat. I did have trepidation of even getting involved in such a lopsided page, I thought it would have it's guardians. I won't be making any more edits there.Halbared (talk) 15:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Your edit summary here wrote, "Heathcliff is described in the novel has having varying features and possibly a Lascar, Spanish or American, it is kept vague depending on who is doing the describing". This was the explanation for removing the Deadline Hollywood content, right? Is that not a personal analysis, however educated it may be? Yes, it's a tricky topic, and it has gotten unsourced and badly-sourced listings that should be cleared out, and there will be edge cases to work through. When anyone edits, they have to expect their edit to be challenged. We can go through WP:DR if you want. Erik (talk | contrib) 16:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- To follow up, it appears that the listing was unwarranted anyway because filming has not even started, so I removed it on that basis. If it is produced, though, and whitewashing still discussed in reliable sources, it can be relisted. Erik (talk | contrib) 16:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi Erik, I hope when you're Online you can consider the cult films I'm going to mention:
Cult films often gain their status due to a combination of factors, including unique storytelling, unconventional themes, memorable performances, or even a certain level of controversy. Here's a brief overview of why some of the films you mentioned are considered cult classics:
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1. Cruising (1980): Its controversial portrayal of the gay community and exploration of sexuality sparked debate, leading to a reevaluation over time. 2. Elizabethtown (2005): Initially criticized for its tone and pacing, it has gained a following for its quirky characters and heartfelt moments. 3. Shin Godzilla (2016): A modern take on the Godzilla franchise that reflects contemporary societal issues, it has garnered appreciation for its political commentary. 4. Anomalisa (2015): This stop-motion film's exploration of loneliness and existentialism resonates with many viewers, making it a standout in animation. 5. The Emperor's New Groove (2000): Initially underperformed at the box office but became beloved for its humor and distinct style, appealing to both kids and adults. 6. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001): While it didn't achieve commercial success, its adventurous spirit and unique animation style have earned it a dedicated fanbase. 7. Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (2002): Its artistic animation and themes of freedom resonate with audiences, leading to a lasting appreciation. 8. Rise of the Guardians (2012): This film's imaginative premise and ensemble of beloved characters have helped it cultivate a loyal following. 9. ParaNorman (2012): Its blend of horror and humor, along with themes of acceptance, has made it a favorite among animation fans. 10. Bee Movie (2007): The film's absurd premise and meme culture have contributed to its cult status despite mixed initial reviews. 11. Flushed Away (2006): While not a box office hit, its clever humor and animation style have garnered it a niche audience. 12. Madagascar (2005): The film's quirky characters and comedic elements have made it a beloved family favorite. 13. Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (2003): Despite its initial box office struggles, it has gained appreciation for its animation and storytelling. 14. Jennifer's Body (2009): Initially dismissed as a teen horror film, it has since been re-evaluated for its feminist themes and dark humor. 15. Camera Buff (1970): A Polish film that critiques media and society, it has gained recognition for its artistic merit. 16. Los Olvidados (1950): A powerful social commentary on poverty in Mexico, it has been embraced by cinephiles for its artistic significance. 17. Pinocchio (1940), Bambi (1942), Sleeping Beauty (1959), Alice in Wonderland (1951), The Lady and the Tramp (1955): These Disney classics have transcended generations, becoming nostalgic favorites for their animation and storytelling. 18. A Goofy Movie (1995): Its relatable father-son themes and catchy music have made it an enduring favorite among fans. 19. Perfect Blue (1997): This psychological thriller has gained a significant following for its complex narrative and influence on later works. 20. Millennium Actress (2001): An acclaimed anime that blends history and personal narrative, celebrated for its emotional depth. 21. Tokyo Godfathers (2003): A unique holiday film that combines humor and heartwarming moments has earned it a dedicated audience. 22. Angel's Egg (1985): This surreal anime film is appreciated for its artistic visuals and ambiguous storytelling. 23. Megamind (2010): Its subversion of superhero tropes and clever humor have helped it find a loyal fanbase. 24. When the Wind Blows (1986): A poignant anti-war animated film that resonates with audiences for its emotional depth. 25. On the Silver Globe (1988): A visually striking film that faced censorship, gaining recognition as an avant-garde classic. 26. Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! (Átame) (1989): Pedro Almodóvar's provocative narrative has earned it a cult following for its bold themes. 27. Pump Up the Volume (1990): Its portrayal of teenage rebellion and the power of voice resonates with young audiences. 28. Jawbreaker (1999): A darkly comedic take on high school dynamics that has become a favorite among fans of teen films. 29. The Doors (1991): While divisive among critics, it has gained appreciation for its portrayal of Jim Morrison and the band's legacy. 30. What About Bob? (1991): This comedy's quirky characters and memorable quotes have led to its status as a beloved classic. 31. Color of Night (1994): Known for its erotic elements and campy dialogue, it has developed a following for its unintentional humor. 32. The Human Centipede trilogy: Notorious for its shock value, these films have attracted viewers interested in extreme horror. 33. The Crush (1993), Fear (1996): Both films feature intense psychological themes that resonate with audiences drawn to thrillers. 34. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993): Regarded as one of the best Batman adaptations, it has gained critical acclaim over time. 35. The Fountain (2006): Its ambitious storytelling and visual style have led to a dedicated fanbase despite mixed initial reactions. 36. Event Horizon (1997): A sci-fi horror film that has become a cult favorite for its unsettling atmosphere and themes. 37. In & Out (1997): Its comedic take on identity and acceptance resonates with audiences seeking lighthearted yet meaningful narratives. 38. Gia (1998): Angelina Jolie's performance in this biopic about supermodel Gia Carangi has garnered lasting admiration. 39. Can't Hardly Wait (1998): A quintessential teen film that captures the essence of high school life, leading to nostalgic appeal. 40. I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997): A staple of 90s horror that has maintained popularity among slasher fans. 41. American History X (1998): Its powerful themes of redemption and racism have led to ongoing discussions about its impact. 42. Disturbing Behavior (1998): A teen thriller that explores conformity and rebellion, gaining traction among genre enthusiasts. 43. Magnolia (1999): Known for its ambitious narrative structure and ensemble cast, it has been embraced by fans of art-house cinema. 44. Girl, Interrupted (1999): With strong performances and themes of mental health, this film has resonated with many viewers. 45. Bicentennial Man (1999): Its exploration of humanity through an AI lens has led to a re-evaluation over time. 46. Audition (1999): This Japanese horror film is known for its shocking twists and psychological depth, garnering critical acclaim. 47. (500) Days of Summer (2009): Its unconventional romantic narrative has made it a favorite among fans seeking authenticity in love stories. 48. Love & Pop (1998): An exploration of youth culture in Japan that resonates with fans of experimental cinema. 49. Ritual (Shiki-jitsu) (2000): An art-house film that examines existential themes, attracting cinephiles interested in unique narratives. 50. The Piano Teacher (2001): A provocative exploration of desire that has garnered attention for its bold storytelling. 51. The House That Jack Built (2018): Lars von Trier's controversial film has sparked discussions about morality in art, attracting attention from cinephiles. 52. Mother! (2017): Known for its allegorical storytelling and divisive reception, it has become a topic of analysis among audiences. 53. Prozac Nation (2001): A coming-of-age story that resonates with those exploring mental health themes. 54. Ben and Arthur (2002): Recognized for its low-budget production values but earnest storytelling, gaining a niche audience. 55. Daredevil (2003), Elektra (2005), Blade (1998): These superhero films have garnered attention for their unique takes on the genre despite mixed reviews. 56. Bruce Almighty (2003): Its comedic premise about divine intervention has led to lasting popularity among fans of light-hearted comedies. 57. How the Grinch Stole Christmas: Jim Carrey’s portrayal added a unique layer to the classic tale, making it memorable for many viewers. 58. Brother Bear: Though not as popular as other Disney films, its themes of brotherhood have resonated with audiences over time. 59. Love Actually: Initially polarizing, this romantic comedy has become a holiday staple thanks to its ensemble cast and intertwining stories. 60. Big Fish: Its imaginative storytelling appeals to those who appreciate whimsical narratives about family and legacy. 61. House of Sand and Fog: This drama's exploration of loss and identity resonates deeply with audiences who appreciate character-driven stories. 62. Fantastic Four (2005), Shark Tale: Both films have found audiences who enjoy their unique takes on familiar genres despite initial criticism. 63. Just Like Heaven: Its blend of romance and fantasy appeals to viewers looking for feel-good stories. 64. Jarhead: A reflective take on military life that resonates with those interested in more serious war narratives. 65. Zathura: While overshadowed by "Jumanji," this space-themed adventure has gained appreciation for its imaginative premise. 66. She's the Man: This modern adaptation of Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night" is beloved for its humor and gender-bending themes. 67. Monster House: A unique animated horror film that resonates with both kids and adults during Halloween season. 68. Marie Antoinette (2006 film): Sofia Coppola’s stylized portrayal has sparked discussions about historical representation in cinema. 69. Dead Silence: Known for its creepy atmosphere, it has developed a following among horror enthusiasts despite mixed reviews. 70. Meet the Robinsons: Its heartwarming message about family and resilience appeals to audiences looking for uplifting stories. 71. Fracture (2007 film): A legal thriller that captivates viewers with its intricate plot twists and strong performances. 72. Shelter (2007 film): This LGBTQ+ film gained recognition for its heartfelt exploration of love and identity within the community. 73. Numb (2007 film): A drama that resonates with those exploring mental health themes in their own lives. 74. It's Kind of a Funny Story (film): A coming-of-age story that tackles mental health with humor and sincerity, appealing to young adults. 75. The Mist (film): Known for its bleak ending, this horror film has sparked discussions among genre fans regarding narrative choices. 76. Eden Lake (2008 film): A British horror film that critiques class disparities while delivering intense thrills to viewers who appreciate social commentary in horror films. 77. Bronson (2008 film): Tom Hardy’s transformative performance in this biopic about notorious criminal Charles Bronson has garnered critical acclaim over time. 78. Revolutionary Road: A poignant exploration of suburban life that resonates with audiences interested in character-driven dramas. 79. Redline: An animated racing film known for its stunning visuals and frenetic energy that appeals to fans of the genre. 80. Mary & Max: This stop-motion film’s exploration of friendship across distances resonates deeply with audiences who appreciate heartfelt storytelling. 81. Love Exposure: An epic Japanese film known for its ambitious narrative structure that explores love in unconventional ways; it’s become a favorite among cinephiles seeking unique experiences in cinema. 82. Dogtooth: This Greek film’s surreal narrative challenges societal norms, leading to discussions about boundaries in filmmaking. 83. I Saw the Devil: A South Korean thriller known for its intense psychological elements that captivates fans of dark narratives exploring revenge themes. 84. Ruby Sparks: This romantic comedy-drama’s exploration of creativity and relationships resonates with viewers seeking originality in storytelling. 85. The Skin I Live In: Pedro Almodóvar’s provocative exploration of identity has sparked conversations about gender and transformation in cinema. 86. Thesis (Tésis): A Spanish thriller examining media ethics that captivates viewers interested in thought-provoking narratives about violence in media representation. 87. Seeking a Friend For the End of the Worldv Its unique premise about love amidst impending doom resonates with audiences looking for heartfelt stories against existential backdrops. 88. The Master (2012): Paul Thomas Anderson’s explorative narrative on cult dynamics garners attention from cinephiles interested in character studies within complex relationships between individuals searching for meaning in life experiences post-World War II America.
96. The Neon Demon: Nicolas Winding Refn’s stylistic approach combined with themes surrounding beauty culture attracts cinephiles interested in visually striking narratives. 97. Tamasha: A Bollywood film exploring identity through romance resonates deeply among audiences seeking authenticity within relationships depicted on-screen. 98. The Nice Guys:Combining comedy detective noir elements leads to appreciation from fans enjoying witty banter nostalgic references throughout. 99. Silence (2016 film): Martin Scorsese’s exploration of faith amidst adversity draws attention from those engaging critically with religious themes depicted through cinematic storytelling. 100. Blade Runner 2049: While divisive upon release due to pacing issues compared to original Blade Runner; this sequel finds appreciation among sci-fi enthusiasts exploring philosophical questions surrounding humanity's future amidst advanced technology. 101. Mandy (2018 film): Cult status stems from Nicolas Cage’s performance alongside surreal visuals creating an unforgettable experience resonating strongly within horror fandoms. 102. Climax (2018 film): Gaspar Noé’s provocative style combined with dance elements creates an immersive experience attracting viewers seeking experimental cinema offerings. 103. Love (2015 film): This romantic drama’s explicit content paired with emotional depth captures attention from audiences exploring unconventional relationships depicted through artistic lenses showcased within filmmaking today. |
Thomasmurdock19 (talk) 02:18, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, films should only be added to list of cult films if there are reliable sources calling it a cult film. There are over a dozen cult-film books cited already, so the list is very comprehensive. Your posted content sounds like it is AI-generated, so please see WP:RSPCHATGPT. Erik (talk | contrib) 02:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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