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The result was '''<span style="color:green;">k</span>eep'''. - ] 11:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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This is just one of an infinite number of possible variations on the ] game. It is completely arbitrary. Why Kevin Bacon, not Michael Caine or Warren Beatty or Patrick Stewart or any other randomly chosen actor? See the History section: plainly ]. This might just merit a short paragraph in ], but that's about it. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 11:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC) This is just one of an infinite number of possible variations on the ] game. It is completely arbitrary. Why Kevin Bacon, not Michael Caine or Warren Beatty or Patrick Stewart or any other randomly chosen actor? See the History section: plainly ]. This might just merit a short paragraph in ], but that's about it. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 11:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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* '''Strong Keep'''. Arbitrary in the sense that the game didn't ''have'' to make use of Kevin Bacon, sure, but ever since it has, it has become a well-known and well-sourced pop culture meme. ] 13:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC) * '''Strong Keep'''. Arbitrary in the sense that the game didn't ''have'' to make use of Kevin Bacon, sure, but ever since it has, it has become a well-known and well-sourced pop culture meme. ] 13:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Certainly people ''could'' have fixated on Caine or Beatty or Stewart, but , , , and , in each case knocking-out the other three and Misplaced Pages. History, arbitrary or not, has produced a clustering around Bacon. Indeed, ''some'' might go so far as to suggest that this clustering has become more significant than ''talent'' in sustaining Bacon's career (such as it is). —] 13:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep'''. Certainly people ''could'' have fixated on Caine or Beatty or Stewart, but , , , and , in each case knocking-out the other three and Misplaced Pages. History, arbitrary or not, has produced a clustering around Bacon. Indeed, ''some'' might go so far as to suggest that this clustering has become more significant than ''talent'' in sustaining Bacon's career (such as it is). —] 13:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' a rarity of rarities: a "meme" article that's notable and verifiable by reliable sources, and has remained notable for many years on end. The fact that it's been made into a published book is more than enough for me. ] - <b><FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT></b> 14:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep''' a rarity of rarities: a "meme" article that's notable and verifiable by reliable sources, and has remained notable for many years on end. The fact that it's been made into a published book is more than enough for me. ] - <b><span style="color:#FF0000;">St</span><span style="color:#FF5500;">ar</span><span style="color:#FF8000;">bli</span><span style="color:#FFC000;">nd</span></b> 14:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', probably ]-able. I was actually introduced to the concept of "The Six Degrees of Seperation" as a ''variant'' of "The Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon". Cheers, ] ○ ] ○ ] ○ 14:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep''', probably ]-able. I was actually introduced to the concept of "The Six Degrees of Seperation" as a ''variant'' of "The Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon". Cheers, ] ○ ] ○ ] ○ 14:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''- maybe add part of this article to the article on ], but there is absolutly no need for this subject to have its own page. ] 15:00, 23 March 2007 (GMT) *'''Delete'''- maybe add part of this article to the article on ], but there is absolutly no need for this subject to have its own page. ] 15:00, 23 March 2007 (GMT)
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*'''Strong Keep'''; notable in and of itself, and the accepted source of where the phenomenon comes from (even though it was around longer than Kevin Bacon) --] 15:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Strong Keep'''; notable in and of itself, and the accepted source of where the phenomenon comes from (even though it was around longer than Kevin Bacon) --] 15:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. This is the name by which the concept is popularly known to the most people, and we could probably source it until this time next week. (Whee, and I'm ''one'' degree of separation from Kevin Bacon!) ] 16:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep'''. This is the name by which the concept is popularly known to the most people, and we could probably source it until this time next week. (Whee, and I'm ''one'' degree of separation from Kevin Bacon!) ] 16:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong Keep''' and a potential ] candidate here. Agree that while the choice of ] as the poster child for the concept was arbitrary, it was not an arbitrary decision on the part of editors here, it's just how the concept evolved! ] &#149; ] 17:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Strong Keep''' and a potential ] candidate here. Agree that while the choice of ] as the poster child for the concept was arbitrary, it was not an arbitrary decision on the part of editors here, it's just how the concept evolved! ] &#149; ] 17:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', there's already at least one ] referenced, and while we should have more references than that, the sheer number of possible reliable sources means that attributing this article should be easy. — ] (]/]) 17:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep''', there's already at least one ] referenced, and while we should have more references than that, the sheer number of possible reliable sources means that attributing this article should be easy. — ] (]/]) 17:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Surely this is a joke? When I think "Six degrees of..." the first thing that comes to mind is Kevin Bacon. ] 17:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep'''. Surely this is a joke? When I think "Six degrees of..." the first thing that comes to mind is Kevin Bacon. ] 17:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' One of the most repeated memes on the planet. I'd assume that Mr. Bacon's large repertoire of films combined with his four-syllable full name are what's behind the seeming random choice, but it's out there. ] 17:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep''' One of the most repeated memes on the planet. I'd assume that Mr. Bacon's large repertoire of films combined with his four-syllable full name are what's behind the seeming random choice, but it's out there. ] 17:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong keep''' I see no reason to delete this article. ] 18:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Strong keep''' I see no reason to delete this article. ] 18:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong & speedy keep''' this should never have been AfD'd, this was one of the best known phrases in the 1990s computing community & is still in common circulation.<font face="verdana"> - ]</font> 18:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Strong & speedy keep''' this should never have been AfD'd, this was one of the best known phrases in the 1990s computing community & is still in common circulation.<span style="font-family:verdana;"> - ]</span> 18:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. None of the other actors mentioned have dedicated to the concept. --] 20:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep'''. None of the other actors mentioned have dedicated to the concept. --] 20:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong keep''', big pop culture meme, and I have been surprised to find totally non-internettish people aware of the joke. -- ] | ] 21:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Strong keep''', big pop culture meme, and I have been surprised to find totally non-internettish people aware of the joke. -- ] | ] 21:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong WTF time to get your head examined keep''' ... like Myles says above... none of your other suggestions have an oracle dedicated to them. &nbsp;]] <span style="font-size:130%; background:yellow; border:1px solid black;">&#x2622;</span> 21:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Strong WTF time to get your head examined keep''' ... like Myles says above... none of your other suggestions have an oracle dedicated to them. &nbsp;]] <span style="font-size:130%; background:yellow; border:1px solid black;">&#x2622;</span> 21:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Umm...just a guess, but "Kevin Bacon" is a good rhyme with "separation." ] 22:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC) *'''Keep'''. Umm...just a guess, but "Kevin Bacon" is a good rhyme with "separation." ] 22:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Speedy keep''' and close. Why in blazes is this being AfD'd? --] 22:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I can see why someone unfamiliar with the (rather bizarre) concept might think it not notable, but it plainly is. ] 00:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - this was the original "six degrees" meme. --] 00:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' and will someone close this please. -- ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 01:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Keep''' I can only surmise that the nominator does not understand the incredible ubiquity of this meme. I'd be surprised if anyone in the US under 75 didn't know of it, Net-savvy or not. This may be the most notable meme ever with hundreds upon hundreds of reliable third-party references and dozens of articles ''about it'' specifically. --] 02:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
:*Maybe ] just thought that we needed a slight jolt to wake us up to-day. :-) —] 04:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', of course. c'mon Guy, srsly... ] 06:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - what the heck, I've always heard of this as the Kevin Bacon game, and was flabbergasted to know that other variations even exist (outside of MAD Magazine, that is). Yes, this is widespread enough. Just because something is ] doesn't mean it may become ]; last I checked, it's just good practice to say "this is TMUISOD and can't escape its fate, but by all means, welcome back when it ''is'' notable". Sometimes it does happen. --'']'' (]/]) 08:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', voicing in. It just happened to be Kevin Bacon, but this ''is'' the notable origin name.. ] ] 10:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', although this feels like merely piling-on at this point. Generally, I'm very dubious about these so-called "Internet memes"—often just the fleeting ephemera of a disposable digital age that have been briefly subject to a ] phenomenon—but this is one of the granddaddies of all Internet memes, and it has spread far beyond its digital roots! It's been around for nearly two decades and shows no signs of disappearing. At this point, it's probably more notable than the majority of Bacon's movies, and within a couple of decades, might be more notable than Bacon himself! :) ] <sub>]</sub> 19:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*This wasn't especially smart, considering published by the ], not to mention references, and 112 at . Oh, and mentions. I strongly suggest withdrawing. --] <small>]</small> 21:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Speedy keep'''. Guy, please seriously consider withdrawing this nomination. ] 23:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
**Actually, he's offline right now per his userpage. Also, ... --] 00:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Keep''' - It gets mentioned just about every single time he's interviewed for anything. Offhand it was specifically mentioned in his episode of ] and by ] while interviewing Bacon on ]. -- ]] (<sub>]</sub> ] <sup>]</sup>) 09:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
**Eh, that only says that it's important to Bacon. Other arguments above explain why it is worthy of its own entry. —] 14:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
***'''Reply''' - I disagree; the fact that it gets brought up so much means it has national attention, making it notable. -- ]] (<sub>]</sub> ] <sup>]</sup>) 18:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
****The reason that you (actually) gave in your original comment only established that the 6° thing should be mentioned in the article on Bacon himself. Please note that I was one of the first to call for keeping the article, for reasons that I gave up above; but it is still appropriate for me to raise an objection to the argument that you gave. —] 03:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment:''' Could ''some'' admin apply ] here and close this out? 31-1 for Keep is about as overwhelming a consensus as you're ever likely to see. ] 13:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
**WP:SNOW should not be applied here. --] <small>]</small> 13:37, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
*** And that would be because ... ? ] 13:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
****It would be inappropriate. JzG is paying attention, if he feels that he should withdraw his deletion suggestion, <s>then we can shut this down, not before</s>, there may be a stronger case, but he's not the only one arguing deletion. --] <small>]</small> 13:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
*****There is a difference between giving every dog its day and just wasting people's time. This is the latter. ] 13:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
******] is dangerous, and should only be applied when the costs of allowing continuation are markèdly high. —] 14:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
******I don't agree. --] <small>]</small> 14:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
******* There is nothing in ] requiring the acquiescence of the nom in an AfD. ] 14:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
********Well, there's nothing in WP:SNOW. --] <small>]</small> 14:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Subject of many non-trivial references in books, including an entire book mentioned above. David Letterman mentioned it when he hosted the Academy Awards. I can understand getting rid of some of the sillier made-up so-called "memes" on Misplaced Pages, but this is about as notable as they get. --] 15:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per most of the other arguments. Has someone also brought up the actual board game that was released? Definitely notable. ] 15:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
* '''Keep.''' Very notable meme. - ] 15:58, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 11:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon

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This is just one of an infinite number of possible variations on the six degrees of separation game. It is completely arbitrary. Why Kevin Bacon, not Michael Caine or Warren Beatty or Patrick Stewart or any other randomly chosen actor? See the History section: plainly made up in school one day. This might just merit a short paragraph in Kevin Bacon, but that's about it. Guy (Help!) 11:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

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