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Hi Zilch-nada, I saw you disagreed with my removal of the paragraph you added on said article. Could you please go to the talk page of the article to explain why you think the paragraph belongs? Thanks! ] (]) 01:21, 8 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
is one more example of edit warring. I see that you've been warned about this before so I won't hit you with the standard template, but I will encourage you to self-revert since there is clearly a ] which you have failed to contribute to. Believe it or not, the other editors in this community are reasonable people who are persuaded by sources. You just have to take the time to unpack what the sources say in a civil way in order to persuade others. If you cannot collaborate like that you will eventually be subject to sanctions which may culminate in the loss of editing privileges altogether. Thanks, ] (]) 23:42, 27 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Hi Zilch-nada, I've noticed you ], that isn't really the way delete it if you disagree with it. Instead, nominate it for deletion at ]. ]]] 00:09, 29 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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But I accept your statement about not making the edit. It wasn't a baseless suggestion though as the intent of the IP's edit and yours was similar, removing sourced material about left-wing terrorism being a relatively minor issue with a bad edit summary - yours saying "changed dismissive, irrelevant wording" when you actually changed nothing but deleted a key statement. ] ] 07:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
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I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind your removal of "anarchist" in the description in the first sentence. You said "unnecessary labelizing," but I'm not sure what you meant. Do you mean "labelizing" to be derogatory? I think the anarchist ideas are crucial to the novel. Just saying "utopian" admits of capitalist utopias (Star Trek, pretty much), Leninist utopias, mystical or religious utopias (Orson Scott Card), etc. I'd be happy to be convinced, but so far I think what you changed disimproves the article. ] (]) 05:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Hi Zilch-nada, I saw you disagreed with my removal of the paragraph you added on said article. Could you please go to the talk page of the article to explain why you think the paragraph belongs? Thanks! Félix An (talk) 01:21, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Redirect blanking
Hi Zilch-nada, I've noticed you blanked a redirect, that isn't really the way delete it if you disagree with it. Instead, nominate it for deletion at WP:RfD. Justiyaya 00:09, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- My bad. Thanks! Zilch-nada (talk) 00:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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I don't know anything about your IP address
But I accept your statement about not making the edit. It wasn't a baseless suggestion though as the intent of the IP's edit and yours was similar, removing sourced material about left-wing terrorism being a relatively minor issue with a bad edit summary - yours saying "changed dismissive, irrelevant wording" when you actually changed nothing but deleted a key statement. Doug Weller talk 07:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
A quick note on talk page language
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Your edit of The Dispossessed
I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind your removal of "anarchist" in the description in the first sentence. You said "unnecessary labelizing," but I'm not sure what you meant. Do you mean "labelizing" to be derogatory? I think the anarchist ideas are crucial to the novel. Just saying "utopian" admits of capitalist utopias (Star Trek, pretty much), Leninist utopias, mystical or religious utopias (Orson Scott Card), etc. I'd be happy to be convinced, but so far I think what you changed disimproves the article. Briankharvey (talk) 05:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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- My bad, I didn't see the edit warning. But accusations are endless, so let's end this here. Zilch-nada (talk) 01:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Zilch-nada, I'm writing to follow up on the discussion at Talk:Gender#Opening sentence - are "man" and "woman" genders? I have tried to respond to your comments and some of your questions, but the sheer volume of your comments seems to be approaching bludgeoning. And I wanted to mention I have made my responses about the article, but I do not plan to answer your repeated question because I do not think it is relevant to the article discussion. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 02:08, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- "To falsely accuse someone of bludgeoning is considered incivil, and should be avoided." What absolute nonsense; a mere excuse not to engage. Zilch-nada (talk) 02:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think especially in contentious topic areas, it is not constructive to repeatedly ask a participant for their opinion on other articles , , during an article discussion. One of the reasons I left you a note on your user talk page is because you continued to ask the same question about other articles after I attempted to briefly return to the discussion. Beccaynr (talk) 04:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- With respect, I was illustrating that the wikilink issue which was brought up was similar, in that concerns over the incoherence of wikilinks is also problems for other articles. My logic was that we should consider the reliablity and necessity of the sources, regardless of wikilinks, which is an external issue. Thanks, Zilch-nada (talk) 04:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I.e. why keep bringing up the wikilink issue, as that's a problem for other articles? Zilch-nada (talk) 20:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think especially in contentious topic areas, it is not constructive to repeatedly ask a participant for their opinion on other articles , , during an article discussion. One of the reasons I left you a note on your user talk page is because you continued to ask the same question about other articles after I attempted to briefly return to the discussion. Beccaynr (talk) 04:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Hey ZN. Just FYI, at AE you're supposed to keep all your comments, including replies to other editors, within your own section. You're also over the 500 word limit, so you may need to either trim or request an extension. You'll probably want to save some words for future replies. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- "Save some words for future replies"; what do you mean? Zilch-nada (talk) 17:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I imagine uninvolved admins will eventually weigh in, and you may want to anticipate needing some words available to respond to them. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:42, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is a formal, logged warning to assume good faith and maintain civility in discussions. Additionally, if you find a discussion going in circles, and there is not a clear consensus for your position either seek dispute resolution or let the matter drop. Engaging in prolonged back and forths with multiple editors can easily slip from constructive discussion to unconstructive discussion, and then to disruption. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- "Save some words for future replies"; what do you mean? Zilch-nada (talk) 17:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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- A book read by a thousand different people is a thousand different books. - Andrei Tarkovsky
I don't know how Tarkovsky came to this quote from his 1989 book, but Stanislaw Lem elaborated on this idea quite profusely in his 600-page-thick 1968 The Philosophy of Chance, not just occasional witticism. I will try to find something similarly catchy form Lem, though. - Altenmann >talk 03:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. Not that this idea is something completely new. For example, the very philosophy of haiku is to make 17 syllables generate a highly individual image withing the reader's brain (Unfortunately many people generate something kinda "Huh? WTH?" :-). - Altenmann >talk 03:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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